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IGN just acquired a ton of their competitors
telekill:
--- Quote from: BinaryMessiah on May 27, 2024, 09:12:44 am ---
I didn't ignore it. I clearly addressed it. Your point was that sites being left leaning and political makes them untrustworthy. That was your point, and I addressed it as such.
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First off, that was not my point. My point was that a leftist controlled site eating up other leftist controlled sites won't have an impact on the readers. Regardless, they'll still have the same opinion pushed at them.
Second, I'm glad you don't trust reviews on any of these sites. Kudos.
--- Quote from: dhaabi on May 23, 2024, 06:24:49 pm ---Search for the latest major "controversy" in gaming news. For example, you'll have luck when searching news for the upcoming game Assassin's Creed Shadows regarding its protagonist. Similar to what tripredacus explained, this is more like "on the streets" reporting since these channels are largely independent, although I'm sure a considerable amount are sponsored. Regardless, these channels certainly have dedicated audiences.
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I appreciate you confirming that there is no conservative gaming outlet capable of silencing opinions they don't like.
dhaabi:
--- Quote from: telekill on May 27, 2024, 10:55:54 am ---
--- Quote from: dhaabi on May 23, 2024, 06:24:49 pm ---Search for the latest major "controversy" in gaming news. For example, you'll have luck when searching news for the upcoming game Assassin's Creed Shadows regarding its protagonist. Similar to what tripredacus explained, this is more like "on the streets" reporting since these channels are largely independent, although I'm sure a considerable amount are sponsored. Regardless, these channels certainly have dedicated audiences.
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I appreciate you confirming that there is no conservative gaming outlet capable of silencing opinions they don't like.
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To clarify, I never claimed such outlets were successful by whatever metric you want to gauge that condition. They have their dedicated audiences, as I previously mentioned, but they're unpopular with the general public for a reason. Simply put, it is because their views do not align with the views of most who engage with them.
Again, this goes back to what tripredacus mentioned in that "[t]he big company's bias is driven by money and the regular person bias is their own opinions." So, you won't see a company like IGN publish those kinds of opinion pieces because there isn't any money to be earned expressing those beliefs as it's a minority opinion. By assuming a like-minded position with their audience, these larger companies can continue to grow and maintain readership since, again, they're popular opinions. With that understanding, none of these conservative outlets would be able to "silence" the opinions (whatever that means) of those opposite to them.
telekill:
--- Quote from: dhaabi on May 27, 2024, 11:16:56 am ---none of these conservative outlets would be able to "silence" the opinions (whatever that means) of those opposite to them.[/font]
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I appreciate the clarification. By "silence", I mean deleting postings and banning users who express an "unpopular" opinion... even in a respectful way. If others aren't able to even read opposing viewpoints, which is the goal of any totalitarian system... then it would most certainly appear as though an opposing viewpoint is in the minority.
dhaabi:
--- Quote from: telekill on May 27, 2024, 11:39:30 am ---
--- Quote from: dhaabi on May 27, 2024, 11:16:56 am ---
--- Quote from: telekill on May 27, 2024, 10:55:54 am ---I appreciate you confirming that there is no conservative gaming outlet capable of silencing opinions they don't like.
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none of these conservative outlets would be able to "silence" the opinions (whatever that means) of those opposite to them.
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I appreciate the clarification. By "silence", I mean deleting postings and banning users who express an "unpopular" opinion... even in a respectful way. If others aren't able to even read opposing viewpoints, which is the goal of any totalitarian system... then it would most certainly appear as though an opposing viewpoint is in the minority.
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I first understood the expression on a more global scale, so this changes my outlook. Any outlet, regardless of its bias, is capable (which is the term you originally used) of silencing any opposing viewpoint, should they choose to do so. This is especially true in modern times with digital news, comments, and users accounts, as you've pointed out.
tripredacus:
--- Quote from: dhaabi on May 27, 2024, 11:16:56 am ---So, you won't see a company like IGN publish those kinds of opinion pieces because there isn't any money to be earned expressing those beliefs as it's a minority opinion.
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This is actually incorrect. Corporations do this all of the time, but not for the reasons you think they do. They do it as a CYA because many companies have learned from the MeToo/cancel movements of years ago. Fortunately, many companies are realising that they have been catering to a vocal minority and this has been effecting their bottomline. So they will either change or go under.
I don't understand the need to trust what a website says. They just provide information.
Game reviews became worthless as soon as streaming became available. I stopped reading them not because of what the authors wrote about, but that it wasn't helpful to me to decide if I wanted to play something or not. If I am interested in something and there is no demo available, I will watch someone streaming it. Then I can decide for myself whether I like it. Since games are not all about graphics or story or whatever else is typical to be graded in a game review.
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