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Halo is going multiplat...end of an era
Warmsignal:
--- Quote from: BinaryMessiah on October 24, 2025, 09:23:56 pm ---I fondly, to this day, remember a conversation I had at 16 with a Game Crazy employee. I read in OPM a rumor that Halo was coming to PS3 (this was all around the mysterious PS3 pre-launch window) and he got pretty heated (remember I'm just a kid and this is a grown man) saying Halo will NEVER come to PlayStation. It literally can't. Microsoft owns it and would NEVER allow it in a million years.
People have been crying out to end the console wars, but competition breeds innovation. Without competition everyone will stagnate. I honestly just want the industry to crash. Every major AAA studio to fold, get gutted, and sadly the cycle will start all over again. Smaller to medium size indie studios will buy up franchises and start out small and form more major corporations.
--- Quote from: bikingjahuty on October 24, 2025, 08:02:02 pm ---
It's not like buying the physical discs means anything anymore
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I'm not sure what you mean. I had my internet go out for 3 days about a year ago. I bought a 2TB SSD for my PS5 and every disc installed offline. Sure, we won't get patches when the service goes down one day, but everything installed off the disc. I installed probably 30 games both PS4 and PS5.
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I could never imagine a lot of the shitty things that go on nowadays, gaming or otherwise ever happening at one point, but now they routinely do and it's just normalized.
As far as game discs, it depends on the game. Ubisoft, Microsoft, and I believe EA (the usual suspects) refuse to put data on their discs as of late. Then some smaller publishers are also dabbling in online requirements just to play the single player mode. Usually games that are more multi-player focused (unfortunately a lot of games now) but offer a single player, tend to have this asinine restriction about accessing the game at all offline.
I'm so sick of every developer squandering all of their time and resources chasing that ever elusive multi-player hit that ain't gonna happen. It used to be most games were a single player campaign, with a multi-player mode as an afterthought. Now it's reversed, multi-player focused games with maybe a single player adaptation of a game that was built for multi-player. It's getting so old.
bikingjahuty:
Following me discovering Halo was coming to PS5, I did some more research on what's been going on with Microsoft and the XBOX brand over the last year, and good lord does it seem dire! This all definitely looks self inflicted via a combo of extreme greed, woeful mismanagement, incompetence from the top down, and a lack of understanding when it comes to the modern gaming landscape. I said, this was the end of an era in the thread title, but I'm starting to realize just how right I was about this. If XBOX actually does make a console next gen that isn't a 1500+ gaming PC I was be completely shocked. It looks like Microsoft is betting everything on Gamepass being the future of XBOX, and if this Halo news is anything to go off of, it's maybe not working out the way they thought it would.
weirdfeline:
This isn't a big deal and not sure why the internet is acting like it is. Once Forza hit it that was it, nothing is off limits and then of course we already had a Gears remake hit. This would've been interesting had it happened with Halo Infinite years ago. The weird thing is that they still don't have every Xbox new release on PlayStation, perhaps some people may have played Keeper if it was on a platform people own. If you're asking yourself "what's Keeper?" that's exactly my point. It's a brand new first party Xbox game that released about a week ago.
dhaabi:
This isn't shocking. First was Forza, then Gears of War. What few franchise exclusives Microsoft ever had that they built for themselves is gone, and that's been known what was to happen since their long-term goals are to get GamePass on as many platforms as possible.
--- Quote from: bikingjahuty on October 24, 2025, 10:05:59 pm ---Most disc based games are glorified CD keys now.
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Obligatory DoesItPlay mention.
--- Quote ---I'm with you on wanting the industry to crash, and I mean crash hard! I want pretty much all AAA studios to go bankrupt and the industry to become mostly unprofitable so big money interests, investors, and large corporations remove their claws from it since it will no longer be a source they can use to fuel their never ending greed. I realize this isn't likely going to happen, but you have to figure something has got to give.
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Like you said yourself, this is very unlikely to happen as long as there are people, even if their numbers are few, who are willing to pay for diminished returns while being exploited. For instance, there has been backlash against content subscription models (in general, not just with gaming) with some percentage of people forgoing it. But if prices can be increased high enough to combat fewer subscribers, then the company in question still profits. How long they're able to profit, though, is the question worth asking. How long are people willing to pay for a sub-par product?
Also, I find it worth commenting on that you champion the thought of AAA gaming failing. While indie gaming will always exist and would be what's left in the industry were large companies to abandon it, that seems be of little interest to you based on past discussions. Until people's expectations change that's often met (or attempted to be met) by high-budget AAA games, the industry can't correct itself. This is what most indie and anything beneath AAA gaming has figured out, or at least held onto. Not every record-breaking hit needs to have a budget in the tens of millions (or more) to be successful, and I'd argue that no game needs that kind of overinflated budget that skews toward the higher end that's been reported for some titles. Above all, gameplay should be a project's focus; fortunately that's something that indie and lower-budget gaming knows and regularly excels at providing.
--- Quote from: BinaryMessiah on October 24, 2025, 09:23:56 pm ---People have been crying out to end the console wars, but competition breeds innovation. Without competition everyone will stagnate. I honestly just want the industry to crash. Every major AAA studio to fold, get gutted, and sadly the cycle will start all over again. Smaller to medium size indie studios will buy up franchises and start out small and form more major corporations.
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I am not saying this with any defense, but what you've mentioned is how capitalism is designed to function.
--- Quote from: Warmsignal on October 24, 2025, 10:07:24 pm ---I'm so sick of every developer squandering all of their time and resources chasing that ever elusive multi-player hit that ain't gonna happen. It used to be most games were a single player campaign, with a multi-player mode as an afterthought. Now it's reversed, multi-player focused games with maybe a single player adaptation of a game that was built for multi-player. It's getting so old.
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In this specific instance regarding the remake for Halo: Combat Evolved, the game will actually not offer an online multiplayer mode while instead focusing on the single-player campaign just as the original game previously did. I suppose that could change and be added as a post-release update, but I doubt that for whatever reason.
bikingjahuty:
Ideally I would want to see lots of smaller indie devs occupy the vacuum left by the downfall of most of the big AAA studios. While there would undoubtedly be a lot of poorly made indie games in this space, I'd also imagine new, good, exciting franchises would emerge and hopefully become the new face of gaming. I just feel like the industry needs a hard reset. I still enjoy some new games that get released, but I'd rather see something much better rise from the ashes of the old industry rather than get scraps here and there while the overall landscape of gaming continued to rapidly decay under its own greed and ineptitude.
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