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« Reply #16635 on: July 02, 2026, 11:26:02 pm »
Sony's announcement to go pure digital by 2028 is disheartening, but I think it means I can finally, FINALLY get caught up on my backlog and replay those games I've wanted to replay for years.

https://www.gematsu.com/2026/07/sony-interactive-entertainment-to-end-physical-game-disc-production-in-january-2028


It's looking more and more like the rest of my life is going to be getting caught up with my backlog. I'm fine with that, but a part of me is saddened that I won't be able to get excited for new releases anymore, even if the game looks amazing. If I can't own the game, I'm not buying it.

bizzgeburt

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« Reply #16636 on: July 04, 2026, 04:52:57 pm »
Happy 4th of july to all our U.S. folks from beyond the pond  8)
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US !!
WELCOME TO YOUR DOOM !!

ssj4yamgeta

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« Reply #16637 on: July 06, 2026, 12:33:08 pm »
With Sony announcing the end of mainstream physical games in 2028 and the looming KIDS Act heading to Senate here in the US (which will usher in an age where you need to verify your ID to do anything on your computer), I decided to start prepping for the looming digital apocalypse while the internet is still free. Yesterday I picked up a Seagate Expansion 6TB HDD for $131, which in today's market is an excellent bargain for storage. This allowed me to unload some "DRM-free digital copies" from my computer's SSD, which only had 17GB left on it. I'm also planning to download backup installers for emulators, privacy browsers, and certain operating systems that are refusing to comply with the new ID verification laws. In my version of the all-digital future, nobody will be able to revoke my digital copies and I will be happy.
Games Needed to Complete Collection:
PS5: 26 | PS4: 26 | XBOX One: 10| Switch: 9

Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« Reply #16638 on: July 06, 2026, 01:21:26 pm »
With Sony announcing the end of mainstream physical games in 2028 and the looming KIDS Act heading to Senate here in the US (which will usher in an age where you need to verify your ID to do anything on your computer), I decided to start prepping for the looming digital apocalypse while the internet is still free. Yesterday I picked up a Seagate Expansion 6TB HDD for $131, which in today's market is an excellent bargain for storage. This allowed me to unload some "DRM-free digital copies" from my computer's SSD, which only had 17GB left on it. I'm also planning to download backup installers for emulators, privacy browsers, and certain operating systems that are refusing to comply with the new ID verification laws. In my version of the all-digital future, nobody will be able to revoke my digital copies and I will be happy.


I started doing something similar earlier this year. I'm pretty much archiving every game I've ever wanted to play from the 80s all the way up to modern consoles. I don't know how easy it's going to be to preserve games in the near future and I don't want to lose my ability to play many of these games. Shit just feels apocalyptic right now.

kashell

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« Reply #16639 on: July 07, 2026, 10:28:50 am »
Sony's announcement to go pure digital by 2028 is disheartening, but I think it means I can finally, FINALLY get caught up on my backlog and replay those games I've wanted to replay for years.

https://www.gematsu.com/2026/07/sony-interactive-entertainment-to-end-physical-game-disc-production-in-january-2028


It's looking more and more like the rest of my life is going to be getting caught up with my backlog. I'm fine with that, but a part of me is saddened that I won't be able to get excited for new releases anymore, even if the game looks amazing. If I can't own the game, I'm not buying it.

I was thinking about this some more. I looked at the games that I want to replay and the games I have that I still haven't played. By my estimate, I got a few thousand hours worth of game time ahead. I guess that's another perk of playing longer games.

ssj4yamgeta

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« Reply #16640 on: July 19, 2026, 09:05:25 am »
For anyone interested in the Halo remake, DoesItPlay.org has confirmed that the entire game is not on the disc. A download is required to play. Apparently you also have to log in to play it. I've removed it from my wish list.
Games Needed to Complete Collection:
PS5: 26 | PS4: 26 | XBOX One: 10| Switch: 9

Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« Reply #16641 on: July 20, 2026, 01:11:05 pm »
With Sony announcing the end of mainstream physical games in 2028 and the looming KIDS Act heading to Senate here in the US (which will usher in an age where you need to verify your ID to do anything on your computer), I decided to start prepping for the looming digital apocalypse while the internet is still free. Yesterday I picked up a Seagate Expansion 6TB HDD for $131, which in today's market is an excellent bargain for storage. This allowed me to unload some "DRM-free digital copies" from my computer's SSD, which only had 17GB left on it. I'm also planning to download backup installers for emulators, privacy browsers, and certain operating systems that are refusing to comply with the new ID verification laws. In my version of the all-digital future, nobody will be able to revoke my digital copies and I will be happy.

We live in literally an apocalypse as far as i'm concerned. What's cringe is when I was a kid they always had a scary name for it.  Recession, depression, stagnation, drought, panic market.  Now its just life?  We are literally being internally corrupted and people sit and clap for the parade of ghouls profiting off our misery.  It's like a horror movie.  A world where we care more about children being on social media We cant profit off versus porn we can profit off.  We own nothing. Pay everything.  How long before the egg cracks. Who knows. 


Does anyone here know how to back up physical media with digital files? Is that a thing that is necessary.  I currently own a bit over 1500 physical games. And am buying as much PS3 as I can. I know Blu Ray is less susceptible to disc rot but at this point. Physical is dying. And we will simply have to go with the times.  So I was thinking I should put all of my physical games on a giant ssd for playing off the files.  Is that even possible. I am pretty daft when it comes to anything PC.  I'm exclusively console fluent.







sworddude

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« Reply #16642 on: July 21, 2026, 09:50:10 am »
anyone else noticing the site being really slow in the last 7 days orso. multiple browsers btw not just 1 it's only been till today that the site acts normal again
Your Stylish Sword Master!



dhaabi

Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« Reply #16643 on: July 21, 2026, 09:59:34 am »
anyone else noticing the site being really slow in the last 7 days orso. multiple browsers btw not just 1 it's only been till today that the site acts normal again

Yes, it's been yet another inconvenient past few days to respond to the edit queue especially.

ssj4yamgeta

Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« Reply #16644 on: July 21, 2026, 12:23:04 pm »
We live in literally an apocalypse as far as i'm concerned. What's cringe is when I was a kid they always had a scary name for it.  Recession, depression, stagnation, drought, panic market.  Now its just life?  We are literally being internally corrupted and people sit and clap for the parade of ghouls profiting off our misery.  It's like a horror movie.  A world where we care more about children being on social media We cant profit off versus porn we can profit off.  We own nothing. Pay everything.  How long before the egg cracks. Who knows. 


Does anyone here know how to back up physical media with digital files? Is that a thing that is necessary.  I currently own a bit over 1500 physical games. And am buying as much PS3 as I can. I know Blu Ray is less susceptible to disc rot but at this point. Physical is dying. And we will simply have to go with the times.  So I was thinking I should put all of my physical games on a giant ssd for playing off the files.  Is that even possible. I am pretty daft when it comes to anything PC.  I'm exclusively console fluent.

I'm no expert, but I've been looking into this quite a bit since last year. Here's what I know so far. To rip cartridge games, you need an adapter that plugs into your computer. Certain companies make adapters that support multiple cartridge types. To rip discs, you need a PC disc drive that can both read and write DVDs and Blu-Rays, but that won't work for every type. The hardest to rip are Dreamcast, Gamecube, XBOX, and XBOX 360. For those, you need to do some voodoo with connecting the console to your home network and tricking it into uploading the game to your PC via a network cable. The Gamecube only ever had one drive made that could read its discs, the Dreamcast used the unique GD-Rom format that still hasn't been hacked, and there hasn't been enough interest in XBOX or 360 emulation for people to bother hacking the security on those discs (thanks to backwards compatibility). For almost everything else, though, you just need a good disc drive (and a disc-ripping program). This is one I've had my eye on and plan to get later this year:
https://www.amazon.com/Computer-International-BW-16D1X-U-Powerful-Blu-ray/dp/B0GTN87GF4/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_bmx_gp_cm6zwjan_d_sccl_1_5/142-7963471-3860314?pd_rd_w=NBBlQ&content-id=amzn1.sym.8e992487-5252-42e4-af77-4cb794b7e45b&pf_rd_p=8e992487-5252-42e4-af77-4cb794b7e45b&pf_rd_r=1V852APM1330PWCHKCDH&pd_rd_wg=0Eylt&pd_rd_r=9a56f083-b8dd-44e3-acc2-cfbacd51daf6&pd_rd_i=B071VP89X1&th=1
It is pricey, but gets recommended a lot by people who do this kind of stuff because it will read/write almost everything, including 4K blu-rays, BDXL (128gb blu-rays), and M-Discs. The latter are very important, and I'll get to why in a second.

When it comes to using an SSD as storage for backups, it's a good short-term solution, but it won't work for long-term. SSDs may not have moving parts and do last longer than HDDs, but they still have a finite number of read-write cycles they can execute before they become corrupt. Average life spans are 4-6 years for HDDs and 5-10 years for SSDs under normal use. You also can't unplug an SSD and hide it away long-term, because any flash-based memory needs an electrical charge to maintain data integrity. Basically you need to plug it in at least once every 10 years (preferably more often) or the data on it becomes corrupt. This issue has been killing DS and 3DS games in people's collections because those carts are also based on flash memory. So are the carts for the Switch and Switch 2. Here's where those M-Discs come in. They're archive-grade blu-rays manufactured by Verbatim. They have a special coating that makes them resistant to extreme temperatures and gives them an incredible 1,000-year data retention lifespan. They come in capacities up to 100gb. They are expensive (right now $73 for a pack of 5), but they will far outlast any HDD or SSD ever made.
https://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-98913-M-Disc-100GB-Surface/dp/B011PIJPOC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Q4XHFLFRIX49&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pDvwfD6CzT7lUVQCBazneEZQ1sN822_m6ueJkiheWy4YG9_REmUjQjKahvbqw6ptku_XD1gkiTjyVwjvKZ1aR25_zNjE355uel929VO1XJ4To_O2-GRa_-iB-ZblgBUEM2a9zRfFtx127RQeeAf7lMvYiZoxyygsvKKxpKGxT5oA-lTL9HamhEUA0R6NFVkx4zVUg7fm01Ybhm2rKP_xAjzBpJOm5NWQaeQ4oJIBr9KLAn3csL9thXLRhdACFtBthwBg_K-HvPyC1IDSezhjea1ZSPOylOly1FzupFYJaj4.ttTA9nW3tqo1iGZ6UVMSxS2YIFm6PT02qRhMwoTsWEI&dib_tag=se&keywords=M-Discs&qid=1784649870&s=electronics&sprefix=m-discs%2Celectronics%2C1287&sr=1-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.9fe8cbfa-bf43-43d1-a707-3f4e65a4b666
My long-term plan is to rip my entire library, then burn everything to M-Discs. That way whenever I have an SSD failure or a console dies, I know my library is still safe. By the way, there are also youtube videos on how to turn GOG and Steam games into physical copies, complete with tutorials for making your own cover art and disc art. It's pretty cool.

Well, that's all I can tell you without linking to anything illegal. I hope this helped, sorry it was a lot to read.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2026, 12:26:44 pm by ssj4yamgeta »
Games Needed to Complete Collection:
PS5: 26 | PS4: 26 | XBOX One: 10| Switch: 9

Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« Reply #16645 on: July 21, 2026, 11:51:21 pm »
We live in literally an apocalypse as far as i'm concerned. What's cringe is when I was a kid they always had a scary name for it.  Recession, depression, stagnation, drought, panic market.  Now its just life?  We are literally being internally corrupted and people sit and clap for the parade of ghouls profiting off our misery.  It's like a horror movie.  A world where we care more about children being on social media We cant profit off versus porn we can profit off.  We own nothing. Pay everything.  How long before the egg cracks. Who knows. 


Does anyone here know how to back up physical media with digital files? Is that a thing that is necessary.  I currently own a bit over 1500 physical games. And am buying as much PS3 as I can. I know Blu Ray is less susceptible to disc rot but at this point. Physical is dying. And we will simply have to go with the times.  So I was thinking I should put all of my physical games on a giant ssd for playing off the files.  Is that even possible. I am pretty daft when it comes to anything PC.  I'm exclusively console fluent.

I'm no expert, but I've been looking into this quite a bit since last year. Here's what I know so far. To rip cartridge games, you need an adapter that plugs into your computer. Certain companies make adapters that support multiple cartridge types. To rip discs, you need a PC disc drive that can both read and write DVDs and Blu-Rays, but that won't work for every type. The hardest to rip are Dreamcast, Gamecube, XBOX, and XBOX 360. For those, you need to do some voodoo with connecting the console to your home network and tricking it into uploading the game to your PC via a network cable. The Gamecube only ever had one drive made that could read its discs, the Dreamcast used the unique GD-Rom format that still hasn't been hacked, and there hasn't been enough interest in XBOX or 360 emulation for people to bother hacking the security on those discs (thanks to backwards compatibility). For almost everything else, though, you just need a good disc drive (and a disc-ripping program). This is one I've had my eye on and plan to get later this year:
https://www.amazon.com/Computer-International-BW-16D1X-U-Powerful-Blu-ray/dp/B0GTN87GF4/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_bmx_gp_cm6zwjan_d_sccl_1_5/142-7963471-3860314?pd_rd_w=NBBlQ&content-id=amzn1.sym.8e992487-5252-42e4-af77-4cb794b7e45b&pf_rd_p=8e992487-5252-42e4-af77-4cb794b7e45b&pf_rd_r=1V852APM1330PWCHKCDH&pd_rd_wg=0Eylt&pd_rd_r=9a56f083-b8dd-44e3-acc2-cfbacd51daf6&pd_rd_i=B071VP89X1&th=1
It is pricey, but gets recommended a lot by people who do this kind of stuff because it will read/write almost everything, including 4K blu-rays, BDXL (128gb blu-rays), and M-Discs. The latter are very important, and I'll get to why in a second.

When it comes to using an SSD as storage for backups, it's a good short-term solution, but it won't work for long-term. SSDs may not have moving parts and do last longer than HDDs, but they still have a finite number of read-write cycles they can execute before they become corrupt. Average life spans are 4-6 years for HDDs and 5-10 years for SSDs under normal use. You also can't unplug an SSD and hide it away long-term, because any flash-based memory needs an electrical charge to maintain data integrity. Basically you need to plug it in at least once every 10 years (preferably more often) or the data on it becomes corrupt. This issue has been killing DS and 3DS games in people's collections because those carts are also based on flash memory. So are the carts for the Switch and Switch 2. Here's where those M-Discs come in. They're archive-grade blu-rays manufactured by Verbatim. They have a special coating that makes them resistant to extreme temperatures and gives them an incredible 1,000-year data retention lifespan. They come in capacities up to 100gb. They are expensive (right now $73 for a pack of 5), but they will far outlast any HDD or SSD ever made.
https://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-98913-M-Disc-100GB-Surface/dp/B011PIJPOC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Q4XHFLFRIX49&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pDvwfD6CzT7lUVQCBazneEZQ1sN822_m6ueJkiheWy4YG9_REmUjQjKahvbqw6ptku_XD1gkiTjyVwjvKZ1aR25_zNjE355uel929VO1XJ4To_O2-GRa_-iB-ZblgBUEM2a9zRfFtx127RQeeAf7lMvYiZoxyygsvKKxpKGxT5oA-lTL9HamhEUA0R6NFVkx4zVUg7fm01Ybhm2rKP_xAjzBpJOm5NWQaeQ4oJIBr9KLAn3csL9thXLRhdACFtBthwBg_K-HvPyC1IDSezhjea1ZSPOylOly1FzupFYJaj4.ttTA9nW3tqo1iGZ6UVMSxS2YIFm6PT02qRhMwoTsWEI&dib_tag=se&keywords=M-Discs&qid=1784649870&s=electronics&sprefix=m-discs%2Celectronics%2C1287&sr=1-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.9fe8cbfa-bf43-43d1-a707-3f4e65a4b666
My long-term plan is to rip my entire library, then burn everything to M-Discs. That way whenever I have an SSD failure or a console dies, I know my library is still safe. By the way, there are also youtube videos on how to turn GOG and Steam games into physical copies, complete with tutorials for making your own cover art and disc art. It's pretty cool.

Well, that's all I can tell you without linking to anything illegal. I hope this helped, sorry it was a lot to read.

Thank you immensely for all the information and clarity. It makes a lot more sense to me now.  So basically say PS3 and PS4 games which make up like 40 percent of my collection. I would need a special drive with write/rip capabilities for blu ray disc.  Then id just put the disc in and rip it to the drive and those files can be used in the instance of a disc rot or console death?   It's fascinating for me.  My brother used to burn games. But this was years ago and he only did PS1 games and I believe Saturn. 

I have found companies making aftermarket disc drive assemblies for PS2 slims which gives me a ray of hope but ive yet to try one.  While yeah PCBs can fail. Some PS2s can go 50+ theoretically outside of the disc sled assembly with proper maintenance.  I really hope we start seeing even more neat ideas as physical media fully gets murdered. I bet the communities will collectively rebel and we may start getting ways to take digital PS5 and PS6 games and put those on physical media as well. Maybe pipe dream but id also love to see someone like limited run games make physical games for digital only consoles that maybe can be played on PC? 3rd party games that will release next gen. 


I am sorry if any of this is just nonsense. I am so tonedeaf with the inner workings of physical preservation on digital files but id love to back up my collection to the best of my ability. 


Your idea for putting your games on M-Discs is great.  The idea of a world where certain games become lost to degradation gives me the heebie jeebies.  I had not heard of M-Disc until now.  Does it recieve files the same way burning on a DVD-R operates? Or is there a special drive needed for these? 


I also had no clue about 3DS games having this issue.  Damn.  I better fire up some of my titles. 


Best wishes in your future preserving endeavors.  I really wish companies remained making parts and games in small batches for curators but alas gaming has fleeted.   Thanks for all this knowledge. I appreciate the response.





Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« Reply #16646 on: July 25, 2026, 07:33:05 am »
1.  Folklore
2. Puppeteer



That is the Kuon, Rule of Rose of PS3


Folklore has a perfect storm of media frenzy, random "hey we've decided on a whim this 50 dollar game should be 140" vibe but right before a gen 7 hysteria bubble.  PS3 still doesnt know what to do with itself and its hierarchy is beint formed daily. I seen it with PS2.  Got offered Kuon and rule of rose for 150 and 125 and rejected both in 2014. By 2020 they were the price of a used car. 

But let it be known. Mark my words.


Folklore is PS3s kuon. It'll be $500+ by 2035.   It is seeing the exact same awkward market manipulation attempts from scam artists.  Combined with word of mouth that im afraid is permenent. From reddit to local. It has that same aura of "hey see how expensive ______ got" that makes people fomo buy and the rest is history. Its all I hear about. If you are at all desired to play Folklore or Puppeteer.  I could be wrong. But imo its bite the bullet season sadly. 


Combined with the fact that a remaster is almost guaranteed unlikely as the dev is gone and IP is in legal limbo and the game is not on digital store. It's a perfect storm.


June 2026 Folklore was trending at 55
July 2026 already at 96
And based on sold listings of recent August will show 120+


Idk if anyone wanted that game but figured id Paul Revere and warn of the impending lol.





ssj4yamgeta

Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« Reply #16647 on: July 25, 2026, 11:43:50 am »
Thank you immensely for all the information and clarity. It makes a lot more sense to me now.  So basically say PS3 and PS4 games which make up like 40 percent of my collection. I would need a special drive with write/rip capabilities for blu ray disc.  Then id just put the disc in and rip it to the drive and those files can be used in the instance of a disc rot or console death?   It's fascinating for me.  My brother used to burn games. But this was years ago and he only did PS1 games and I believe Saturn. 

I have found companies making aftermarket disc drive assemblies for PS2 slims which gives me a ray of hope but ive yet to try one.  While yeah PCBs can fail. Some PS2s can go 50+ theoretically outside of the disc sled assembly with proper maintenance.  I really hope we start seeing even more neat ideas as physical media fully gets murdered. I bet the communities will collectively rebel and we may start getting ways to take digital PS5 and PS6 games and put those on physical media as well. Maybe pipe dream but id also love to see someone like limited run games make physical games for digital only consoles that maybe can be played on PC? 3rd party games that will release next gen. 


I am sorry if any of this is just nonsense. I am so tonedeaf with the inner workings of physical preservation on digital files but id love to back up my collection to the best of my ability. 


Your idea for putting your games on M-Discs is great.  The idea of a world where certain games become lost to degradation gives me the heebie jeebies.  I had not heard of M-Disc until now.  Does it recieve files the same way burning on a DVD-R operates? Or is there a special drive needed for these? 


I also had no clue about 3DS games having this issue.  Damn.  I better fire up some of my titles. 


Best wishes in your future preserving endeavors.  I really wish companies remained making parts and games in small batches for curators but alas gaming has fleeted.   Thanks for all this knowledge. I appreciate the response.

Sorry for the late reply, but yes, once you rip the ps3 or ps4 discs, you'll be able to use the game files with an emulator on your PC. Some emulators require a couple extra steps, but instructions and tutorials are easy to find on youtube. PS3 and later discs often require a disc key in addition to the rom itself (like how PC games need cd keys to work), but it's easy to find complete archived lists of every given disc key for a given console with a simple search. I've used a program made specifically for dumping PS3 games that generates a complete list of disc keys every time you dump a disc with it.

I have no worries about disc drives disappearing completely, because now in 2026 you can still buy new-manufacture USB floppy disc drives on Amazon, and I haven't seen a computer with a floppy drive in 20 years. Turns out it's still the number one data storage format worldwide, not every country can afford the newest and best. Vinyl records have also made a comeback, along with cassette tapes of all things. There will definitely be less-than-legal ways of owning PS6 and Post-2027 PS5 games in the future, as the first PS5 emulators are already starting to show up. The PS5 was also completely hacked last year, which opens the door for jailbreaking the console. Jailbroken consoles can do some amazing stuff. I saw a youtube video tutorial on jailbreaking a PS4, they were able to rip the roms from the discs and transfer them to a PC, as well as run modded PS4 roms. They played Bloodborne on a jailbroken PS4 Pro and used a homebrew patch to run it at 60fps. Really neat stuff, I want to try it sometime.

If you want to burn anything to an M-Disc, you'll need to make sure whatever drive you buy can read and write M-Discs. Not all of them can, as it's a relatively new format. Otherwise, yes, it works like burning any other kind of disc. Also, I made a small error when I talked about SSDs. Reading the data won't harm them, but they do have a finite number of write cycles. That's why I refuse to delete and re-install games frequently like a lot of people do, it will shorten the drive's lifespan. And definitely insert and boot any DS or later Nintendo cartridge you own, it will save them. Switch and Switch 2 carts even have small repair programs on the carts that will repair any corrupted data when the game is booted as long as the damage isn't too bad. A couple of DS/3DS games I hear about dying frequently are Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire/Omega Ruby, so if you have them, boot them first. Good luck in the future.
Games Needed to Complete Collection:
PS5: 26 | PS4: 26 | XBOX One: 10| Switch: 9

Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« Reply #16648 on: July 25, 2026, 08:14:18 pm »
anyone else noticing the site being really slow in the last 7 days orso. multiple browsers btw not just 1 it's only been till today that the site acts normal again


Site is basically unusable for me as well.  Ive had every review ive typed deleted for days now because server issues.  Same error. Messages dont load at all. And tbh its grim. If you look at active users there is always like maybe 3 tops. And the rest is "2,485 guests" aka bots.  Tbh If the server cant handle guests someone should make it mandatory to sign up to use the site.  Idk if thats a solution but figured id throw it out there.  That's a lot.of traffic.







Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« Reply #16649 on: July 25, 2026, 08:23:26 pm »
Thank you immensely for all the information and clarity. It makes a lot more sense to me now.  So basically say PS3 and PS4 games which make up like 40 percent of my collection. I would need a special drive with write/rip capabilities for blu ray disc.  Then id just put the disc in and rip it to the drive and those files can be used in the instance of a disc rot or console death?   It's fascinating for me.  My brother used to burn games. But this was years ago and he only did PS1 games and I believe Saturn. 

I have found companies making aftermarket disc drive assemblies for PS2 slims which gives me a ray of hope but ive yet to try one.  While yeah PCBs can fail. Some PS2s can go 50+ theoretically outside of the disc sled assembly with proper maintenance.  I really hope we start seeing even more neat ideas as physical media fully gets murdered. I bet the communities will collectively rebel and we may start getting ways to take digital PS5 and PS6 games and put those on physical media as well. Maybe pipe dream but id also love to see someone like limited run games make physical games for digital only consoles that maybe can be played on PC? 3rd party games that will release next gen. 


I am sorry if any of this is just nonsense. I am so tonedeaf with the inner workings of physical preservation on digital files but id love to back up my collection to the best of my ability. 


Your idea for putting your games on M-Discs is great.  The idea of a world where certain games become lost to degradation gives me the heebie jeebies.  I had not heard of M-Disc until now.  Does it recieve files the same way burning on a DVD-R operates? Or is there a special drive needed for these? 


I also had no clue about 3DS games having this issue.  Damn.  I better fire up some of my titles. 


Best wishes in your future preserving endeavors.  I really wish companies remained making parts and games in small batches for curators but alas gaming has fleeted.   Thanks for all this knowledge. I appreciate the response.

Sorry for the late reply, but yes, once you rip the ps3 or ps4 discs, you'll be able to use the game files with an emulator on your PC. Some emulators require a couple extra steps, but instructions and tutorials are easy to find on youtube. PS3 and later discs often require a disc key in addition to the rom itself (like how PC games need cd keys to work), but it's easy to find complete archived lists of every given disc key for a given console with a simple search. I've used a program made specifically for dumping PS3 games that generates a complete list of disc keys every time you dump a disc with it.

I have no worries about disc drives disappearing completely, because now in 2026 you can still buy new-manufacture USB floppy disc drives on Amazon, and I haven't seen a computer with a floppy drive in 20 years. Turns out it's still the number one data storage format worldwide, not every country can afford the newest and best. Vinyl records have also made a comeback, along with cassette tapes of all things. There will definitely be less-than-legal ways of owning PS6 and Post-2027 PS5 games in the future, as the first PS5 emulators are already starting to show up. The PS5 was also completely hacked last year, which opens the door for jailbreaking the console. Jailbroken consoles can do some amazing stuff. I saw a youtube video tutorial on jailbreaking a PS4, they were able to rip the roms from the discs and transfer them to a PC, as well as run modded PS4 roms. They played Bloodborne on a jailbroken PS4 Pro and used a homebrew patch to run it at 60fps. Really neat stuff, I want to try it sometime.

If you want to burn anything to an M-Disc, you'll need to make sure whatever drive you buy can read and write M-Discs. Not all of them can, as it's a relatively new format. Otherwise, yes, it works like burning any other kind of disc. Also, I made a small error when I talked about SSDs. Reading the data won't harm them, but they do have a finite number of write cycles. That's why I refuse to delete and re-install games frequently like a lot of people do, it will shorten the drive's lifespan. And definitely insert and boot any DS or later Nintendo cartridge you own, it will save them. Switch and Switch 2 carts even have small repair programs on the carts that will repair any corrupted data when the game is booted as long as the damage isn't too bad. A couple of DS/3DS games I hear about dying frequently are Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire/Omega Ruby, so if you have them, boot them first. Good luck in the future.

I actually do have alpha sapphire so I should give it a go.  I try to also use my handhelds every so often because the lithium ion batteries. My SP surprisingly still has its original battery holding a charge almost 20 years later. Absolutely fascinating lol.  But I bought a replacement for when it does die. My PSP too. 

Jailbroken consoles ive seen. What does that entail? I suppose emulator keys are uploaded on it and some soldering is required? It may be beyond my realm but it sounds neat.  I did jailbreak my vita to use emulated games even nintendo games on it but then undid it to get trophies and net get my account permanently banned.  It was a pain in the ass because it wouldn't update and I had to actually hardwire it to my ps3 which somehow put the update.


Thanks for all your help though. M Disc sounds like the way id go for preservation when I do decide to. I'll focus on PS2 and PS3 games first as those are my largest collections