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| htimreimer:
as a PC collector my self, i recommend going for DOS or early windows (3.1,95,98), it is highly documented making it easy to learn and software/OS issue relatively easy to fix, the parts are easy to fined and the games are for the most part cheap. the problem with going for something like the C64,amiga or the apple computers is that there not as well documented as DOS or early windows, there's a high likelihood of compatibility issues especially with amiga and apple do to the amount of models available and it a lot harder to find part for them, overall i recommend starting with DOS or early windows and work your way up to systems like the amiga once you learn the ropes on how to deal with finicky nature of these things |
| BarbaricAvatar:
--- Quote from: htimreimer on January 28, 2015, 12:07:19 am ---as a PC collector my self, i recommend going for DOS or early windows (3.1,95,98), it is highly documented making it easy to learn and software/OS issue relatively easy to fix, the parts are easy to fined and the games are for the most part cheap. the problem with going for something like the C64,amiga or the apple computers is that there not as well documented as DOS or early windows, there's a high likelihood of compatibility issues especially with amiga and apple do to the amount of models available and it a lot harder to find part for them, overall i recommend starting with DOS or early windows and work your way up to systems like the amiga once you learn the ropes on how to deal with finicky nature of these things --- End quote --- That's like telling someone to learn to play the Tuba because it'll make it easier for them to learn Drums in the future. It doesn't matter what old Home Computer one goes for, if they're willing to learn the language to understand it then it won't help in the slightest to waste time with DOS first. |
| Jakandsig:
--- Quote from: burningdoom on January 26, 2015, 12:50:42 pm ---It was probably about the time that Windows became popular that PC started referring to IBM computers only. After that, PC tended to refer to Window-compatible systems. Back in the days of the Apple II and C64, there was another term; "IBM Compatible", which referred to IBM only programs. --- End quote --- Which is not true, the full name and the abrrev are too different things there are ads back then that say "Is Apple II better than PC" or "Will Atari kill PC" Or "Atari will try to make a PC clone to see how the market responds.) |
| Jakandsig:
--- Quote from: BarbaricAvatar on January 26, 2015, 12:45:59 pm ---Regardless, the terminology "PC" has since only been used in conjunction with the previously-titled IBM Compatibles. It is a confusing definition indeed. A parallel to draw (as an example) would be if Nintendo referred to the SNES as a "HGC" (Home Games Console). While all the other TV-consoles are HGC's, only one of them is actually an HGC (in the case of this theroetical example, the SNES), because Genesis and Atari games won't work in SNES's, even though effectively they're all HGC's anyway. If you can wrap your head around that, then you can see why despite ideas to the contrary, there is actually only 1 PC; the aforementioned IBM Compatible and its successors (Made by HP, Acer, Asus, Dell etc). --- End quote --- Speaking of Acer didn't they say they would soon move all on Chrome Book in retail outside of certain online vendors? |
| burningdoom:
--- Quote from: Jakandsig on January 30, 2015, 11:45:06 am --- --- Quote from: burningdoom on January 26, 2015, 12:50:42 pm ---It was probably about the time that Windows became popular that PC started referring to IBM computers only. After that, PC tended to refer to Window-compatible systems. Back in the days of the Apple II and C64, there was another term; "IBM Compatible", which referred to IBM only programs. --- End quote --- Which is not true, the full name and the abrrev are too different things there are ads back then that say "Is Apple II better than PC" or "Will Atari kill PC" Or "Atari will try to make a PC clone to see how the market responds.) --- End quote --- I already showed you proof from actual Apple II ads calling themselves PCs. And here's the TRS-80 one I was thinking of when I mentioned the TRS-80, starring Hulk himself in the ad: It's like PS1 & PS2. When there was only a PS1, people didn't call it a PS1. That came later to help differentiate between the 2 systems. Same as people didn't differentiate IBM/Windows PCs as the only thing called PC until later. Back then, they were all called PCs. It was a buzzword they used to try and get wary people to accept computers in their homes. You've got to remember, back then computers weren't like they are now, not everyone had a computer in their home. Not even half of the nation had computers in their home. |
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