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--- Quote from: burningdoom on January 30, 2015, 12:28:48 pm --- --- Quote from: Jakandsig on January 30, 2015, 11:45:06 am --- --- Quote from: burningdoom on January 26, 2015, 12:50:42 pm ---It was probably about the time that Windows became popular that PC started referring to IBM computers only. After that, PC tended to refer to Window-compatible systems. Back in the days of the Apple II and C64, there was another term; "IBM Compatible", which referred to IBM only programs. --- End quote --- Which is not true, the full name and the abrrev are too different things there are ads back then that say "Is Apple II better than PC" or "Will Atari kill PC" Or "Atari will try to make a PC clone to see how the market responds.) --- End quote --- I already showed you proof from actual Apple II ads calling themselves PCs. And here's the TRS-80 one I was thinking of when I mentioned the TRS-80, starring Hulk himself in the ad: Same as people didn't differentiate IBM/Windows PCs as the only thing called PC until later. Back then, they were all called PCs. It was a buzzword they used to try and get wary people to accept computers in their homes. You've got to remember, back then computers weren't like they are now, not everyone had a computer in their home. Not even half of the nation had computers in their home. --- End quote --- Yeah but, what the manufacturers call things and what the consumers call things are sometimes totally different. Say i grew my own Oranges and sold you a bag for $1 and told you they were Machetes. Would you offer your partner a Machete or an Orange? PC's have always been the IBM Compatibles for those of us who had one. Apple's were Apple's and Atari's were Atari's. There was a transition from calling them IBM Compatibles to PC Compatibles to simply PC's. But Apple's did not come under the PC Compatible umbrella because they weren't. If Nintendo marketed the upgraded 3DS as an Air Hockey Table, would you be having a similar discussion in 30 years time telling people that the 3DS was a classic Air Hockey Table? PS I don't know what planet you're from, but on mine IBM's/PC's were popular in homes in the late 80's. |
| burningdoom:
We're talking about Apple IIs, TRS-80s, and C64s. That wasn't the late 80s, that was the early 80s. Even then, the average American still didn't have a PC in their home in the late 80s. It was more business people, people with a nice income, schools, and the PC gamers. It was definitely more popular than it was in the early 80s, but still not close to what it became when the internet became easily accessible. You guys should check out a book called "The Illustrated History of Electronic Gaming". Fantastic book that goes into great detail about a lot of this stuff. I can't recommend it enough. Such an entertaining read and so chock full of information about this particular time in PC gaming (and a lot of other stuff). |
| BarbaricAvatar:
WTG in "offering solution" over admitting you're wrong. |
| burningdoom:
I've shown video evidence from more than one company. Now watch this ad from Commodore: Yet "no one" called anything other than IBM PCs back then, huh? I guess Apple, Commodore, and Radio Shack are "no one". |
| BarbaricAvatar:
--- Quote from: burningdoom on January 31, 2015, 02:12:57 pm ---I've shown video evidence from more than one company. Now watch this ad from Commodore: Yet "no one" called anything other than IBM PCs back then, huh? I guess Apple, Commodore, and Radio Shack are "no one". --- End quote --- I covered that a few posts back with the definitions of IBM/Compatibles and Apples. You read that right? Oh. Of course. I accept you're the go-to guy for Nintendo games and consoles, but one would be better off talking to a muppet without a hand up it's bum for PC knowledge. You said so yourself you didn't have a PC and neither did anyone in your shantytown, so how could you possibly know what the differences between IBM/Compatibles/Apple amongst users were in the day? |
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