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General and Gaming => Modern Video Games => Topic started by: gf78 on January 11, 2019, 03:32:31 pm
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The poor Wii U. Nintendo's most unloved console next to Virtual Boy (but we won't count that because it was a mess from the get-go). In reality, Wii U had some truly terrific games and it would be an absolute shame to see them not be played by more gamers. Especially given the sales pace of the Switch! We've seen some great games get a second chance at life so far, and previous exclusive Zombi U was ported to PS4 & Xbox One. So far, Nintendo has re-released (or in the case of Breath of the Wild simultaneously released) Captain Toad Treasure Tracker, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 1 & 2, Hyrule Warriors, Pokken Tournament and New Super Mario Bros U. Splatoon and Super Smash Bros received sequels that arguably are suped-up re-releases.
What other great games would you like to see make the jump? Here's my wish list.
Super Mario Maker
Super Mario 3D World
NES Remix Pack
Wonderful 101
Yoshi's Wooley World
And if it's not too much to ask Nintendo...how about that rumored Skyward Sword Hd?! ;D
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I think Maker should get a sequel or expansion, not necessarily a port. I think that having the tablet function in tandem with the TV, rather than independently was a semi-important part of the game’s identity.
Though I wouldn’t scoff at a Deluxe version. :D
3D World could benefit from a wider audience as well. That game is incredible.
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I think Maker should get a sequel or expansion, not necessarily a port. I think that having the tablet function in tandem with the TV, rather than independently was a semi-important part of the game’s identity.
Though I wouldn’t scoff at a Deluxe version. :D
3D World could benefit from a wider audience as well. That game is incredible.
My thinking exactly. Both of these games are phenomenal and need to be played by as many people as possible.
As for making Mario Maker work on Switch, they could easily make it where you can Edit in handheld mode only. Everyone who owns a Switch can use it in both handheld and docked mode. So it's not like making a game that requires a specific peripheral.
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I'm honestly surprised Mario Maker didn't get a port/update on the Switch. I wish Yoshi's Wooley World would; that was the most surprisingly good game I played on the Wii U.
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Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE.
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For me to get rid of my Wii U I will need to have at least the following games ported to the Switch:
Wind Waker HD
Nintendoland
Super Mario 3D World
Yoshi's Whooly World
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For me to get rid of my Wii U I will need to have at least the following games ported to the Switch:
Wind Waker HD
Nintendoland
Super Mario 3D World
Yoshi's Whooly World
I haven't played Nintendoland. I would ask if it was good, but your inclusion of it makes it clear you enjoy it. I got a copy for I think $0.98 at GameStop several months back. Its complete & like-new.
But I have another idea that I'm going to start a new topic for.
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Hyrule Warriors already got one, so...
Wind Waker
Twilight Princess
Tokyo Mirage sessions
These are more or less games I'd like to see on there
I would love it if Four Swords Adventures was adapted to switch.
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For me to get rid of my Wii U I will need to have at least the following games ported to the Switch:
Wind Waker HD
Nintendoland
Super Mario 3D World
Yoshi's Whooly World
I haven't played Nintendoland. I would ask if it was good, but your inclusion of it makes it clear you enjoy it. I got a copy for I think $0.98 at GameStop several months back. Its complete & like-new.
But I have another idea that I'm going to start a new topic for.
Oh absolutely! It is the only other game besides Wind Waker that utilized the gamepad to its full extent. Each game is very fleshed out like a miniature version of every franchise but, they also feel like their own unique experience, and they have a deep well of gameplay and challenges for the bigger franchises. It's my favorite Wii U game behind only Wind Waker HD and Yoshi's Whooly World.
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Super Mario 3D World, NES Remix, and Shovel Knight are really the only ones left I'd still want to see.
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Shovel Knight is on the Switch I thought?
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Shovel Knight is digitally with a retail release coming in April I believe!
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Tokyo Mirage Sessions (uncensored of course)
Fatal Frame Maiden of Black Water
Wonderful 101
Maybe Xenoblade Chronicles X
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I'd rather have mario sunshine HD to be honest, would be nice to see that game with a fresh new look.
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They can port whatever they want, I'm not going to buy it though. I own a good chunk of the Wii U library and pretty much without exception it's the superior place to play all of the Switch ports I've tried. I'd honestly just rather them make sequels instead of porting more games. That's why I'm not really into the Switch, it just feels like every game that comes out is a port.
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I'm over ports. I'm over paying 60 dollars for a 5 year old game. The community shouldn't allow of it but we do. I just can't pay full retail for a game I beat 5 years ago. I own a Wii U. This is Nintendo's way of not innovating but still cashing out with low dev costs. I'm just truly sick of it. The Wii U was such a failure yet Nintendo just can't let it go. And a good chunk of Switch's entertaining stuff is Wii U copy and pastes. But since Switch was marketed better their is an illusion Wii U sucked.
Do we get a new donkey kong? Of course not, why would we. We get good old Wii U tropical freeze. Oh that's awesome, must be 20 bucks right? Maybe 40? No..... it's 60. Again! Why? When was this ever a thing?
Oh but what about a new side scroller Mario? Or Bayonetta? Or Mario Kart. No sir. Wii U games repackaged for full retail again. Nothing really added. Hardly any dev costs. Buying the same game twice.
Because of all these ports, Nintendo has this illusion that the switch has a vast library, it really doesn't. It has the same games Wii U did with maybe 1 or 2 new ones, and a bunch of 3rd party indie filler like Wii U had.
I know it's Nintendo so they get away with it, but i'm just so tired of it from all companies even though Sony does it way less. Their has to be a line. At least with the windwaker games it was a remaster not a port, the graphics were amazingly redone. I mean. I love the accesability of making old games fresh again but definitely not for the price of a brand new game a Dev just slaved over for 5 years like Red Dead. Even Nintendo has never gone so far out as they have this gen. They have ported over almost a whole console gen. I will either be selling my Wii U or selling my switch and honestly i'm closer to selling the switch at this point. I thought I bought a new console. Outside of BOTW (also on Wii U) and odyssey I have a flashier, slimmer, portable Wii U.
I know I sound really bitter, but I remember a time when we got Super Mario World, Not Super Mario Bros 3 Ultimate edition. ;D
Stop cheesing out Nintendo. Stop with the ports. Nobody here would buy a 2009 Honda for 2019 Honda price. This is not an industry exclusive thing. Old things aren't new.
Sorry if this comes off mad or mean to Nintendo but I just wanted to rant about this and the topic has arrised :). I don't mind it for people who want to try the games. I just really wish for the sake of the new comers, the games would be 40 dollars or 20 considering they aren't new games. I find it borderline offensive they charge the exact same price for an old game. But maybe i'm overreacting :D
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The collector in me says nope, we're good on the ports, let's keep some of the good stuff on Wii U so I can justify my owning one ;)
The reasonable person in me thinks pretty much all of the titles OP listed should/will see ports. MvC2 is right, it's last & annoying that there's so many ports- but it is a cheap way for Nintendo to keep the hype-train rolling while they scramble to get out the new stuff we want to see. While it's ramping down now, I do think this was always part of the plan- the Wii U did poorly, so let's just bring the good games to our weird new system. If people like it, great, we'll make new games. If they don't, at least we didn't waste too much development money on it.
I do think the Fatal Frame game would be a great one to port, given how annoying it is to have such a big download on a system with such a small hard drive.
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The collector in me says nope, we're good on the ports, let's keep some of the good stuff on Wii U so I can justify my owning one ;)
The reasonable person in me thinks pretty much all of the titles OP listed should/will see ports. MvC2 is right, it's last & annoying that there's so many ports- but it is a cheap way for Nintendo to keep the hype-train rolling while they scramble to get out the new stuff we want to see. While it's ramping down now, I do think this was always part of the plan- the Wii U did poorly, so let's just bring the good games to our weird new system. If people like it, great, we'll make new games. If they don't, at least we didn't waste too much development money on it.
I do think the Fatal Frame game would be a great one to port, given how annoying it is to have such a big download on a system with such a small hard drive.
Fatal Frame's gameplay pretty much needed the gamepad to act as the camera obscura though, similar to how Zombi U needed it. I'm not saying porting is out of the question but it would be severely watered down without it.
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In a way, I think it's a bit unfair to criticize Nintendo for porting Wii U games to the Switch. Nobody had a problem with HD versions of Zelda games coming to Wii U from previous systems. The Switch ports of Wii U games are similar. The resolution & frame rates have been boosted and there are small additions here & there.
As for the cost, Nintendo games usually command high retail prices unless they release a greatest hits version.
I also think that it's a smart move to port these titles. Let's face it - the Wii U was a retail failure. Many of these great games didnt reach a wide audience. If you weren't a Nintendo diehard, chances are you never got to play these games. Should they be forgotten? Left to rot on a system who's unfortunate name & confusing marketing meant they were generally overlooked? I dont think so. They are better than 90% of the 3rd party, microtransaction-riddled deck getting churned out these days.
As for the library being mostly Wii U ports, I have to respectfully disagree. 1-2 Switch, Arms, Fire Emblem Warriors, Kirby Star Allies, Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild (simultaneous release), Mario & Rabbids, Mario Tennis Aces, Nintendo Labo stuff, Octopath Traveler, Pokemon Let's Go Evee & Let's Go Pikachu, Snipperclips Plus, Splatoon 2, Starlink, Super Mario Odyssey, Super Mario Party, Super Smash Bros Ultimate, Travis Strikes Again, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 & Torna the Golden Country are all new, Switch exclusives. Yoshi, Metroid Prime 4, Pokemon, Bayonetta 3, Fire Emblem three Houses, Luigi's Mansion 3, Town and Animal Crossing are all announced upcoming exclusives.
Those are all Switch-exclusive, compared to ports of DK Tropical Freeze, New Super Mario U Deluxe, Captain Toad, Bayonetta 2, Pokken Tournament, Hyrule Warriors and Mario Kart 8. Big difference and ALL of these ports are great games that DESERVE a second chance on a system that is selling 10 times better than their original, overlooked home.
PS: For those counting, It breaks down like this for Switch Nintendo-published exclusives.
New Releases: 28 including announced, unreleased titles
Ports: 7, 8 if you want to count Zelda's simultaneous release
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I would also like to point out that for the first time on a Nintendo system, games like Doom, Skyrim, Diablo 3, Ark, Fortnite and many others are available to those who would never had the opportunity to play them.
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I would also like to point out that for the first time on a Nintendo system, games like Doom, Skyrim, Diablo 3, Ark, Fortnite and many others are available to those who would never had the opportunity to play them.
This might be slightly off topic but wasn't the original Doom (1993) ported to the SNES.
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I would also like to point out that for the first time on a Nintendo system, games like Doom, Skyrim, Diablo 3, Ark, Fortnite and many others are available to those who would never had the opportunity to play them.
This might be slightly off topic but wasn't the original Doom (1993) ported to the SNES.
Yes, but I was talking about the new Doom. Just modern multiplatform games that the series & developers have traditionally steered clear of Nintendo. And while yes - they are older last gen titles for the most part, they look & play pretty damn good on the go!
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They can port whatever they want, I'm not going to buy it though. I own a good chunk of the Wii U library and pretty much without exception it's the superior place to play all of the Switch ports I've tried. I'd honestly just rather them make sequels instead of porting more games. That's why I'm not really into the Switch, it just feels like every game that comes out is a port.
I have to agree. As a Wii U owner, the Switch hasn't grabbed me at all, and while its exclusives are fine, they haven't enticed me to buy one. Some of Nintendo decisions on formfactor/hardware design, and software/firmware design in the Switch itself irk me.
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100% understand the hate of all the Wii U porting. But I also completely understand why Nintendo is doing it.
1. Wii U sold poorly and thus a lot of people missed out on these great games - and also should note that these games are great, they're not just porting junk over to the Switch.
2. Yes these games are old news to people who owned a Wii U and a Switch, but to people who never owned a Wii U, these games are new to them.
3. Wii U was not portable, Switch is. Playing these games on a portable is reason enough to rebuy these games for some, I know I include myself in that.
I will agree they should be priced lower than a full $60 given that these games are several years old. I get that. It's a bit ridiculous that years-old games get full $60 price tags like Diablo III, Skyrim, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, New Super Marip Bros U Deluxe, DKC Tropical Freeze, etc. But in defense of the Switch, even without counting the Wii U ports, the system has more than enough to make itself worth owning. Even if you're not into indies. I guess the real winners of this gen would be those who didn't have Wii U and are into indies and last gen's 3rd party stuff from other consoles. A lot of the Switch's games are rereleases of old games and believe me I get the hate for that. But most of the games being rereleased are good, this gives new people to try these games, also having them portable, and if you look at the library in total, it's already massive. Not to mention the fact that most of the Wii U ports outsold their original releases and that Switch has sold almost double in 2 years to what Wii U's lifetime sales were. So my advice is if you don't like the Wii U ports, don't buy them.
Going all the way back to the original question though, I'd love to see a port of Pikmin 3, and really that's the only one I really REALLY want to see. We will inevitably see Mario 3D World though I'm sure of it, which was a great game, but I don't count on seeing Woolly World since we got a 3DS port, nor Pikmin 3 since it relied heavily on the gamepad. We are very close to seeing the end of Wii U ports, I feel. I would definitely prefer brand new games over ports, don't get me wrong, but I do feel the existence of these ports are warranted.
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Pikmin 3 is my favorite game on the Wii U by far. It and Captain Toad were the only games that I felt took full advantage of the GamePad while still being fun
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There are two: Xenoblade Chronicles X and Kirby Rainbow Curse.
The reason is so I can give my Wii U and those two games away and clear up some space.
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Oo yeah Xenoblade X is another one of my favorites on the system
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I haven't even played it yet. A Switch option would be amazing.
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I honestly liked it more than the first Xenoblade Chronicles but that's just my tastes shining through.
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I honestly liked it more than the first Xenoblade Chronicles but that's just my tastes shining through.
I didn't care for the first Xenoblade, either. Maybe this one will be different.
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I haven't even played it yet. A Switch option would be amazing.
Same.
Personally, I dislike the Wii U because it's so cumbersome to use. The bulky (and always dead when I need it) gamepad is required to use the system regardless of if the game I'm gonna play requires it or not. I always found it uncomfortable to hold, and again the battery life is terrible on the thing. So I'm fine with any Wii U -> Switch ports they want to do.
That said, the Switch has enough exclusives for me and it has become my #1 preferred system for indie titles. I know some people use "indie game" as some kind of insult, but they are some of the most innovative games out today IMO.
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That said, the Switch has enough exclusives for me and it has become my #1 preferred system for indie titles. I know some people use "indie game" as some kind of insult, but they are some of the most innovative games out today IMO.
I love a lot of the indies. They are inexpensive and full of classic gameplay goodness. Unfortunately, I despise paying for digital-only games. I know that for 90% of the indies, a physical release is impractical or even impossible given they are made by small teams with shoestring budgets. But I still dont like having nothing to show for my money.
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Personally I think it's immensely silly to get actively angry about ports being made, however many might come out. They're low budget works that are rarely made by inhouse dev teams; They effect nothing and take nothing away. They don't take spaces away for new games, they fill up empty space because they take nothing to produce. They aren't responsible for the Switch having a smaller library than the other two big consoles either, that's merely a result of it only having a 2-year lifespan.
I'll concede that them being tagged 60 bucks and marketted as new games is pretty stupid, though that still doesn't make their existence somehow harmful.
Now, in terms of the OP's question..
Yoshi's wooly world would be an immensely boring release, what with there already being a new Yoshi game coming out and Wooly World already having a 3ds port. Let the Wii U keep that one.
Super Mario Maker simply has to get on the Switch somehow, that game was so big it could've put the Wii U on the map had it come out earlier. I guess I'd prefer a sequel though, since when it comes to this sort of game a sequel basically just means the same game with a big nice bundle of new features.
I'd like a Pikmin 3 port plenty, but I'm wary because it it could end up signifying "no Pikmin for a while" and that'd kinda suck. If Pikmin 4's incoming presence means no port, so be it.
Super Mario 3D World is a big remnant of the """""New""""" era of Mario bros, where..ironically, everything was pretty much the same. I dunno, it's a solid enough game but I was kinda hoping it and its 2D platformer counterpart would stay on the Wii U because of what they represent.
Wonderful 101...deserves a second chance, honestly. Poor thing fell into obscurity just for committing the crime of being a Wii U exclusive.
NES Remix? Low budget enough of a game that they might as well just make a sequel instead of porting it. SNES Remix perhaps?
Though...at the end of the day when I'm in a less open-minded mood, I'd say nothing at all because it just hurts to see the Wii U's already abysmally tiny library continue to shrink like that. Let the poor neglected child have something!
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Nintendo Land somehow or just a sequel. Secretly the best Wii U game. Not being sarcastic either.
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Personally I would be fine if they didn't bring any more Wii U games to Switch. Wii U is far from my favorite console but I really do enjoy it. I still play it from time to time. As far as games that I would rebuy on Switch to replay them (despite owning them on Wi U already) I would absolutely rebuy Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3 and Yoshi's Woolly World. I think Pikmin 3 would be a great addition to the Switch library to allow more people to enjoy the series and prep them for the eventual Pikmin 4. Super Mario 3D World is a no-brainer IMO. It's a fantastically crafted Mario game that features 4 players that can easily be worked with the joy-cons. Also (my personal opinion) one of the best Mario games ever created. Even better than Odyssey IMO. Yoshi's Woolly World is my favorite game on the Wii U but it DID get a 3DS port, and it doesn't need a port as much as the other two but I'd still love to see it ported anyway. Other than that, I think the Wii U to Switch porting is good.