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Messages - smesgr

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so vgcollect don't track different companies because they are hard to distinct. Got it.

Just from somebody with a bit of experience doing this. Atari is like one of the more known game companies out there with a difficult to track history. But there a lot of others smaller dev studios with wild renaming, merging and reusing history - I can't pick specific names now, my memory is fading it was a long time ago. But one of the newer instances is Microprose. Funny enough also part of Hasbro-Infogrames train.

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Your edit to Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy was rejected.
Monday April 15th, 2024 at 10:34 AM
Field:    developer
New Value:    5745
Reason:    Information Already on File. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.

No it isn't. Currently there is Atari in the system which is Warner owned Atari. There are 3x Ataris. in Early 1990s they have nothing to do with each other. Atari Corp. owned by Tramel, Atari Games former Namco owned and Atari Holding which is still owned by Warner.
Btw it would be nice to see which of the Mods discarded this.

It was me, to perhaps spur discussion about Devs list. As some cleanup work has been done in the list, but there are still duplicates.

Is Atari not Atari Corporation or the other way around? There are 5 options:
Atari
Atari Corporation
Atari Games
Atari Interactive
Atarisoft

Are all of these valid? Should Atari be removed and add Atari Holding instead?
Or should all of them be just changed to Atari?

Atari full name is "Atari Inc."
-> Ataris Videogame division (including Home Computers) was sold to to "Jack Tramiel" (in 1984 - yes the previous owner of Commodore) which was named Atari Corporation or Atari Corp.
-> Ataris Arcade division was sold to Namco (1985) which was named Atari Games. End of 1990s Warner bought them back was integrated into Midway. For some time they used the Name "Atari Games" but as a company was integrated into Midway. Midway as a company also ceased to exists and is part of Warner Bros Games by now.
--> Atari Games video game subsidiary was Tengen
-> Technically there was a Telecommunications division which was sold to an electronic company. But for the focus of this page irrelevant.
-> Atari Inc was renamed after all that to Atari Holding but never produced anything, was afaik only to hold rights and maybe some estates. It was integrated into parent company Warner in Mid 90s without producing anything as far as I know. For the purpose of this side Atari Inc died in 1985.
-> Atarisoft is a Label of Atari Inc up to 1984 to release Atari catalogue for different systems like Intellivision, C64, PC and so on. The label died with Jack Tramiel takeover of the video game division, which did not release games for other systems up until IBM PC release of Tempest 2000.
-> Atari Interactive is complicated. It is the current company promoting Atari. It sees itself as descendant of Atari Inc. For that a understanding of history in Atari Corp is required. Atari Corp was sold to/merged with a disk drive manufacturer JTS. Thus Atari Corp as a company ceased to exist. After bankruptcy of JTS all remains including the right of the name Atari was bought by Hasbro. Hasbro sold the video game division Hasbro Interactive (including rights to Atari) later to Infogrames. Infogrames renamed itself to Atari SA and created/renamed its USA division to Atari Interactive. After the bankruptcy of Atari/Infogrames - Atari Interactive was one of the few bits of the company that survived. After sold out most of the more modern franchise games the company still exists. In short no there are a different companies just with the rights on the logo and name of Atari.

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Your edit to Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy was rejected.
Monday April 15th, 2024 at 10:34 AM
Field:    developer
New Value:    5745
Reason:    Information Already on File. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.

No it isn't. Currently there is Atari in the system which is Warner owned Atari. There are 3x Ataris. in Early 1990s they have nothing to do with each other. Atari Corp. owned by Tramel, Atari Games former Namco owned and Atari Holding which is still owned by Warner.
Btw it would be nice to see which of the Mods discarded this.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: April 14, 2024, 05:34:59 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/109670
Publisher:
Argus Press Software


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https://vgcollect.com/item/11648

is a frankenstein entry:

data and cartridge pictures fits: 1983 Atari INC release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_7357.html

back cover fits: 1988 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18228.html

front cover could be either 1988 release or 1987 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18227.html

could this please be resolved. I could provide better pictures for a '88 release

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: April 12, 2024, 11:04:45 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/264254
Developer:
Windigo Productions


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: March 23, 2024, 11:21:27 am »
Dev:
Virtual X-citement

https://vgcollect.com/item/263264


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: February 17, 2024, 03:35:31 pm »
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/184926
Developer: Spacewave Software


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is a frankenstein entry:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/12763 has cartridge image of the 1983 Atari Inc "silver label" release but front(?) and back cover is from the 1988 Atari Corp "gray label" release.
See better picture quality of '88: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-pole-position_7429.html vs. http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-pole-position_8020.html

Btw some of the Pole Position entries have Namco as Developer some of them Atari (Inc). Namco "only" did the Arcade version. The game was licensed by Atari and developed for Atari 2600 by Atari themself. Atari also distributed the Namco-Arcade in NA.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: December 28, 2023, 11:50:08 am »
Publisher:
Bomico Entertainment Software - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/259143


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: December 15, 2023, 12:32:06 pm »
Developer & Publisher
8-Bit Productions (aka The 8-bit Guy) https://vgcollect.com/item/240231


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: November 27, 2023, 01:18:51 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/126029
Developer: Athletic Design


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: November 25, 2023, 01:40:51 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/65864
Developer: Tron Software


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: November 22, 2023, 11:35:00 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/250841
Developer: OutOfTheBit


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