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Title: Common Name Exception Poll #4: James Bond 007
Post by: tripredacus on June 21, 2023, 10:09:58 am
There is inconsistency on GameFAQs (our common name source) in regards to the various James Bond series releases. While it seems the source is consistent across individual releases, it is not across the series. This poll is to determine if we should make a change to how we handle these titles or not.

The common name source uses these different combinations (and some instances where the title comes first)
1. James Bond 007: Title (ex James Bond 007: A View to a Kill (https://vgcollect.com/item/245661))
2. James Bond: Title (ex James Bond: Blood Stone (https://vgcollect.com/item/36903))
3. 007: Title (ex 007: Agent Under Fire (https://vgcollect.com/item/780)
Other related examples:
4. 007 James Bond: https://vgcollect.com/item/157241
5. Goldfinger: James Bond 007: https://vgcollect.com/item/36773
6. From Russia With Love: https://vgcollect.com/item/38203

Method 1: Any cover that has the 007/gun logo we will replace with James Bond 007 always put it as the title prefix and prevent text duplication
1. James Bond 007: A View to a Kill
2. James Bond 007: Blood Stone
3. James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire
4. James Bond 007
5. James Bond 007: Goldfinger
6. James Bond 007: From Russia With Love

Method 2: Any cover that has the 007/gun logo will will replace with James Bond 007 but putting this wherever the logo is present in the title.
1. James Bond 007: A View to a Kill
2. Blood Stone: James Bond 007
3. James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire (it is implied that z axis text is first)
4. James Bond 007
5. Goldfinger: James Bond 007
6. From Russia with Love: James Bond 007

Method 3: Make no change and continue to use common name source.
- Titles with 007: prefix requires alt-name text to include "James Bond"
- Titles with the 007/gun logo but not either 007 or James Bond require alt-name text to include "James Bond 007"

Method 4: Any cover with the 007/gun logo present use the text 007 in place.
1. James Bond 007: A View to a Kill
2. Blood Stone 007
3. 007: Agent Under Fire
4. 007 James Bond
5. Goldfinger: James Bond 007
6. From Russia with Love 007

And to re-iterate, the implications here (as they are already) is that individual releases for a particular game on GameFAQs we use the name they use, but releases that are not shown on there we will use either the cover title or a name from some other site. This isn't particularly an issue in single country categories, but for EU what happens is that 1 release may end up having a different name format than others.

Vote changing is enabled, as some options may get edited or added if further discussion warrants it. No hard end-date has been set since forum participation in this section is low.
Title: Re: Common Name Exception Poll #4: James Bond 007
Post by: dhaabi on June 21, 2023, 10:25:32 am
Why exactly was it decided that the presence of the 007/gun logo may represent "James Bond 007?" Is this common knowledge for the franchise? Are there any examples of James Bond games omitting such logo?
Title: Re: Common Name Exception Poll #4: James Bond 007
Post by: tripredacus on June 21, 2023, 12:01:03 pm
There are instances of games in the series without the logo. And for those, it would add complication. I approached this similar to the F1 situation.

And that is the modern branding for the series, the 007/gun logo. All of the games where this title situation exists are ones with that logo.
Title: Re: Common Name Exception Poll #4: James Bond 007
Post by: ignition365 on June 26, 2023, 07:38:22 pm
Personally I'm preferable to just "007" instead of "James Bond 007"
Title: Re: Common Name Exception Poll #4: James Bond 007
Post by: tripredacus on June 27, 2023, 09:41:10 am
Personally I'm preferable to just "007" instead of "James Bond 007"

Added Method 4 to use 007 in place of the 007/gun logo. I was going to add a prefix option but it wouldn't work for A View to a Kill, so it isn't a viable option.
Title: Re: Common Name Exception Poll #4: James Bond 007
Post by: tripredacus on July 12, 2023, 11:34:49 am
Bump. Unless there is a tie, poll will be closed the morning of Monday July 17.
Title: Re: Common Name Exception Poll #4: James Bond 007
Post by: tripredacus on July 17, 2023, 10:46:22 am
Method 1 has won. The instruction has been added to the Item Name post in Adv Guide under logo/text replacements.

The Blood Stone entry from above has already been updated. The rest of the entries can now be updated.
https://vgcollect.com/item/36903