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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: turf on January 23, 2013, 02:52:30 pm
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Check this out. Earthbound is coming to Virtual Console! I'm hoping this means that the SNES will drop a little in price.
http://earthboundcentral.com/
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The fact that it has taken this long is mind boggling.
Still this is good news. It is honestly jut a really good and enjoyable RPG. I would have loved to have seen Mother and Mother 3 get translated releases though.
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Now if we could only get an announcement for the US VC... I know I'd buy it, day 1.
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It's crazy that has taken this long to release this game. After all nes has been in Smash Bros since the beginning.
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Is this gonna be on Wii U, only? Or are they gonna throw a bone to use old Wii users?
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Sadly it's just in japan, where Mother 2 is actually not expensive at all. Don't think it's gonna affect the price of the US SNES cart.
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Earthbound has taken this long because of all the possible copyright infringement cases that could be brought up against it. Some say they could argue parody, but that could be a difficult argument. Hopefully they bring it to USVC. That would be great for everyone who hasn't played the game, or would like to give some money out so we can someday get a port of Mother 3.
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What copyrights have been infringed upon?
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Well copyright in terms of the music, there is a great video by clan of the gray wolf explaining all the music similarities and the different pop culture refrences.Check out the video if your interested at clanofthegraywolf.com in the 16 bit gems section
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Everything on there would fall under parody. Yeah, there are pop culture referances; but nothing that would infringe on copyrights.
*edit* I wrote this without watching Roo's video. I'll watch it later and get back to you. I just doubt much has changed since 1995 in copyright law.
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I hope the price on the game keeps skyrocketing.. I mean I bought it at $90.00 cartridge only and already I've seen it for sale for cartridge only up to 230.00
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Here's another one of Roo's vids on the subject:
http://clanofthegraywolf.com/extra-1/
It shows a few of the songs that may be problematic in Earthbound, but also shows a bunch of games with a similar issue that never got any legal problems.
I really think there wouldn't be any issues with re-releasing this anywhere, Nintendo are just being asses to everyone because it was a failure in its days.
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I hope the price on the game keeps skyrocketing.. I mean I bought it at $90.00 cartridge only and already I've seen it for sale for cartridge only up to 230.00
Speaking for those that don't have the game, I hope it drops :)
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I hope the price on the game keeps skyrocketing.. I mean I bought it at $90.00 cartridge only and already I've seen it for sale for cartridge only up to 230.00
Are you planning on selling it? If not, why do you want to see the price go up?
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I bought it brand new, way back in the day for like $30.00 on clearance. I don't understand how this game got to be so rare. There are other games that are rarer than Earthbound, but don't command the same kind of prices. I hope the prices go down, so that everyone can experience this great game.
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I bought it brand new, way back in the day for like $30.00 on clearance. I don't understand how this game got to be so rare. There are other games that are rarer than Earthbound, but don't command the same kind of prices. I hope the prices go down, so that everyone can experience this great game.
I don't know when it shot up in price either. It used to be a game you would see around a lot in stores. I remember them being on clearance as well. And back during the late 90s to early 2000s the Final Fantasy games commanded a much higher price it seemed. Then I came back to collecting and Earthbound is sky high.
I know Mother 3 happened in the interim of my game collecting, but I wan't paying attention at the time to see if that was the case.
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I bought it brand new, way back in the day for like $30.00 on clearance. I don't understand how this game got to be so rare. There are other games that are rarer than Earthbound, but don't command the same kind of prices. I hope the prices go down, so that everyone can experience this great game.
I think the game is semi rare but it is the fact that it is a good game that drives the price up. Like Final Fantasy 7, it's not rare but everyone wants it.
Fun N Games on the other hand is actually a rare game but no one wants it so it aint worth shit.
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I put about an hour into this game and really couldnt get into it. Did I cut it short too fast or is it really just as bland and generic as it looked?
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I put about an hour into this game and really couldnt get into it. Did I cut it short too fast or is it really just as bland and generic as it looked?
You never played Earthbound? I don't really like RPGs and this was a good one. I can't believe a RPG guy like you didn't ever play it. You NEED to give it a go.
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When it first came out, it looked super childish. I was already engrossed in CT and the FF games that I just totally ignored it after seeing the pics in Nintendo Power. Now that Im older, I did give it a little bit of a try on a friend's SNES powerpak but it felt generic. I dont want to buy it to play it cause its just too damned costly. I could be wrong however on my assessment. I prejudged SMRPG but once I actually put a little time into it, I enjoyed it. Its a pretty unique system and fun.
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After a quick search, it doesnt appear there is a shortage of this game available. Maybe Ill scoop one up for cheap someday.
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After a quick search, it doesnt appear there is a shortage of this game available. Maybe Ill scoop one up for cheap someday.
Ya it's not hard to find copies of it. Just everyone charges a crap ton for it.
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I bought it brand new, way back in the day for like $30.00 on clearance. I don't understand how this game got to be so rare. There are other games that are rarer than Earthbound, but don't command the same kind of prices. I hope the prices go down, so that everyone can experience this great game.
Like myself. I don't feel like paying a new console price for an old game.
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I put about an hour into this game and really couldnt get into it. Did I cut it short too fast or is it really just as bland and generic as it looked?
You never played Earthbound? I don't really like RPGs and this was a good one. I can't believe a RPG guy like you didn't ever play it. You NEED to give it a go.
Part of me wonders if the game is an RPG for nonRPG fans. Earthbound is one of my favorites. And I honestly like the idea of RPGs more than I actually like them. So far, I have really enjoyed Pokemon, Earthbound, and Phantasy Star. These are some of my favorite games period. But I never really liked the Final Fantasy games (the original NES game I liked) or even Chrono Trigger. Don't get me wrong, I know by playing these games that they are amazing games. I just put between 2 and 5 hours into them and move on. Or maybe I just like future/sci-fi settings more. I don't know.
But I do know that I have heard "I like earthbound and I am not a huge RPG fan" a few times.
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I was also a person who got it new back it the day, my aunt gave it to me. To be honest though I'm getting sick of all the earthbound crap going around. I think at the time of it's release it was underrated but part of that was due to nintendo, they didnt market Earthbound at all, and nowadays I dont feel as though it's "underrated" anymore.
To me the more you talk about how "underrated" something is, the more overrated it becomes. I'm not saying the game is bad by any means, it's great, but in all honesty the fact that cart only is over $100 for a pretty common game is ridiculous.
It's the demand that raises value and that proves my point that it's not underrated anymore.
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I think at the time of it's release it was underrated but part of that was due to nintendo, they didnt market Earthbound at all
Actually Nintendo marketed it a lot in magazines and even on TVs in game stores, they spent a lot on marketing and production. However it was all gross-out advertising, with a theme of bad smalls and such which is very unlike what the actual game is like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWh3BUyHrLU
The game still failed, maybe because of the marketing being weird, or because it came in a super expensive giant box... and since then Nintendo has remained mad that it failed and refuses to do anything Mother related anymore in America.
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I think the reason it failed is the same reason I never really played it. To an "RPGer" during that time, we had awesome choices that fit our play style. Chrono Trigger, FF 1-3, Dragon Warrior 1-4 and other stuff. Earthbound and SMRPG just seemed to try to target a different crowd which already had their own games out there to play. It missed the mark on most of the rpg'ers and it was late to catch on with the casual gamers. Now that a lot more gamers are more rounded and versed in other genres, they picked up on popularity. EB and SMRPG were more popular with the casual gamers cause they are easier to play and understand. But they also became popular with some of the rpg'ers cause of a fun factor and a break of pace. I would like to give EB another shot if I could ever find a copy in the wild.
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I would love to get my hands on a physical copy of Earthbound. I don't even care if it has the guide or not. But I know, they would be getting my money for sure if they released it on VC. AND they would be totally getting it if they made a SNES VC for 3DS and put it there.
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I'd like to own a physical copy - not to sell, but just to play it. I have yet to play it or the Mother titles.
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I was also a person who got it new back it the day, my aunt gave it to me. To be honest though I'm getting sick of all the earthbound crap going around. I think at the time of it's release it was underrated but part of that was due to nintendo, they didnt market Earthbound at all, and nowadays I dont feel as though it's "underrated" anymore.
To me the more you talk about how "underrated" something is, the more overrated it becomes. I'm not saying the game is bad by any means, it's great, but in all honesty the fact that cart only is over $100 for a pretty common game is ridiculous.
It's the demand that raises value and that proves my point that it's not underrated anymore.
I am not fond of it as well. It is artificially overpriced. And I agree that the game quality does not demand that price. Granted I can't think of a single game that would demand those prices.
The other part of me that hates the earthbound fandom might be the hipster part of me. I liked Earthbound back in the day. I remember when starmen.net was a smallish fan site with a ghost town of a forum. And I remember excitedly watching the progress of the translation of mother/Earthbound 0 and all of the updates for it. But I don't think it is just that the community got bigger. For me, it was Earthbound and Fire Emblem that were the best of Nintendo. Now these franchises have both become much bigger. For Fire Emblem... I love it. We finally get the games and it gets the respect it deserves. But there is something about what the Earthbound fandom has become that irks me the wrong way. But the bottom line, it is fun to be a fire emblem fan right now. It is really difficult to put up with being an Earthbound fan.
Most of this is not necessarily what you said... but I do agree that no one can call Earthbound underrated anymore.
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@sin2beta right on man, I loved the game as a child, I think I was lucky and unlucky to experience Earthbound as my first RPG, and dont get me wrong I still enjoy the game now, but I do feel as though there are better choices on the SNES RPG-wise, I mean you can take that amount of money and buy Chrono Trigger... Which I personally feel is the better game... I think what bugs me the most is that a lot of people hear such amazing things about it and expect such a great game and to me its not amazing but good/decent. It definitley is a quirky, dark different RPG but maybe some of this is from my own experience. I paid a decent amount of money for Guardian Heroes on the saturn thinking I would love it, I love Treasure's work and I thought "hey i dont care much for beat-em-ups, but this is treasure, maybe they'll change mind." While Guardian Heroes is great, there seemed to be something missing,for me at least. It honestly took Three Dirty Dwarves to kind of change my mind about beat-em-ups. I think the same thing can happen with Earthbound but a lot of people feel as though they paid a lot ofmoney for this game so they better love it.
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Nope would never sell my copy.. true I would like people to play it and really wouldn't mind it being lowered. But then again you don't get to fight hippies and have weird trippy effects going in and out of battle.
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Nintendo of America just Tweeted:
"Earthbound will be on the Wii U Virtual Console this year #NintendoDirectNA pic.twitter.com/ba8MwdSsfV (http://pic.twitter.com/ba8MwdSsfV)"
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Nintendo of America just Tweeted:
"Earthbound will be on the Wii U Virtual Console this year #NintendoDirectNA pic.twitter.com/ba8MwdSsfV (http://pic.twitter.com/ba8MwdSsfV)"
Yesssssss and noooooo. I don't own a Wii U!
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this vary good new because now people don't have to give out half there paycheck for the next 15 years just to play it
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The bad thing is this is not going to sell Wii U units. Most people that would be interested in one would be for it anyhow. A huge percentage of people that would want to play earthbound could actually do it cheaper buying an SNES and the game itself. Its going to be yet another fail in their planning. The Wii U is only going to seriously sell units if the name somehow changes and the price drops to that of a normal Wii as well seriously getting some games (other than stuff thats already on the PS3 and 360).
I was excited when I heard this at first cause I want to play Earthbound ... but with the Wii U only part, its not getting me any closer. Release it on both Wii and Wii U and it will sell like hotcakes. It will also help the price of the game itself drop some allowing people who want to own the thing but not pay $200+ for it the option.
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I wondered why they weren't releasing it for Wii as well - they'd definitely sell a lot more copies. Then I heard about this:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/end-of-an-era-many-wii-online-services-shutting-down-in-june/ (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/end-of-an-era-many-wii-online-services-shutting-down-in-june/)
It looks as though they're preparing to phase out the Wii entirely. With poor Wii U sales and a lukewarm response to the 3DS, I seriously wonder about the future of Nintendo... Newsflash: Earthbound ain't gonna save your hide, Nintendo, especially if you're relying on the Wii U to sell copies. ::)
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The only problem I have with the 3DS is that Nintendo insisted on releasing the 3DS XL, in my opinion, way too early in the 3DS's lifespan. So now, rather than producing a set style of hardware, they are producing 2 different models simultaneously, which can't be cost effective. Other than that minor gripe, I think the 3DS is a great successor to the DS (which I love), much more so than the DSi.
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The only problem I have with the 3DS is that Nintendo insisted on releasing the 3DS XL, in my opinion, way too early in the 3DS's lifespan. So now, rather than producing a set style of hardware, they are producing 2 different models simultaneously, which can't be cost effective. Other than that minor gripe, I think the 3DS is a great successor to the DS (which I love), much more so than the DSi.
I agree about the 3DS XL and the timing of its release. I mean, don't get me wrong, there are some really good titles out on 3DS, but it doesn't seem too many people are paying it any mind. Especially after the fiasco that was its initial launch.
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I wondered why they weren't releasing it for Wii as well - they'd definitely sell a lot more copies. Then I heard about this:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/end-of-an-era-many-wii-online-services-shutting-down-in-june/ (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/end-of-an-era-many-wii-online-services-shutting-down-in-june/)
It looks as though they're preparing to phase out the Wii entirely. With poor Wii U sales and a lukewarm response to the 3DS, I seriously wonder about the future of Nintendo... Newsflash: Earthbound ain't gonna save your hide, Nintendo, especially if you're relying on the Wii U to sell copies. ::)
i tell this to anyone thats worried about nintendo's future, there is a report from a tech analyst and it said that nintendo could lose money on all of there console's for the next 47 years and still have enough money to not only run as a business but also to make at least two new game's and console's, nintendo has just hit a bit of a bumpy road thats gonna smooth it self out at E3
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Ya, I didn't agree with the purchase price of at launch and their bribe of extra games for their ambassador program didn't set well with me either. I think Nintendo is doing alright though and won't be going anywhere any time soon. Especially if the rumors surrounding the new Xbox are true. And, depending on how much Sony screws up the PS4 launch. :)
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The only thing that would ruin the ps4 launch for me is 1) digital only games and 2) continuing with that controller.
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2) continuing with that controller.
what, you dont want completely unnecessary touch pad on your controller
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I wondered why they weren't releasing it for Wii as well - they'd definitely sell a lot more copies. Then I heard about this:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/end-of-an-era-many-wii-online-services-shutting-down-in-june/ (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/end-of-an-era-many-wii-online-services-shutting-down-in-june/)
It looks as though they're preparing to phase out the Wii entirely. With poor Wii U sales and a lukewarm response to the 3DS, I seriously wonder about the future of Nintendo... Newsflash: Earthbound ain't gonna save your hide, Nintendo, especially if you're relying on the Wii U to sell copies. ::)
i tell this to anyone thats worried about nintendo's future, there is a report from a tech analyst and it said that nintendo could lose money on all of there console's for the next 47 years and still have enough money to not only run as a business but also to make at least two new game's and console's, nintendo has just hit a bit of a bumpy road thats gonna smooth it self out at E3
Sadly, most businesses do not work solely on if you have money to keep the lights on. Nintendo hasn't been able to work like this since 1962... when they went public. Nintendo staying the course has less to do with how long they can turtle and more to do with making stockholders happy. They have been fairly transparent on this with all of the 3DS stuff. If Nintendo continues to lose money, their stock loses value. Stockholders will demand changes. And unfortunately the stockholders run/own the company. Nintendo has had to adjust quarterly figures too many times in a row. This makes people nervous.
It's the same reason that Sony announced the PS4 just at the end of the fiscal year. It's about the backers.
But I agree to not be worried about Nintendo's position. I think they know their market well and are serving that market well. I honestly think they know what they are doing and how to keep the stockholders happy.
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I seriously doubt this will affect the price of physical copies, if people want to just play the game now its easy enough for free. It's collectors that drive the price up and greed from demand. The price for Guardian Heroes hasn't changed since xbla
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It may affect prices in the long run, but it will be a long time, and likely wont be much of a change. I seriously doubt that Nintendo is doing this to sell consoles. This is a good thing, but it isn't a huge deal.
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Funny thing is, I found a copy of Earthbound at a thrift store for $5 the day before this was announced.
I gave it to my friend, since I already own Earthbound.
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I thought that Earthbound was going to be released for the Nintendo 3DS and not virtual console????
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I thought that Earthbound was going to be released for the Nintendo 3DS and not virtual console????
That would be win.