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Title: Turbografx-16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 13, 2013, 04:49:28 am
Tho I have never played a turbografx 16, or knew anyone who even owned one, watching youtube videos, the games "keith courage" and "dungeon explorer" caught my eye and looks like something I would play.  Anyone here played a turbografx 16 and would you recommend it as a great systeM??
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: slothingXPIG on May 13, 2013, 05:25:40 am
best system of the 80's and 90's in my opinion... The Hucards they made for the systems were awesome they start up way easier then any cartridge(atleast for me). The only problem is the one controller port(I play with friends a lot) but there is an 5 controller adapter you can buy for fairly cheap. the only problem is finding the controllers lol. I love my turbografx and one of my goals is to collect all games CIB for it(not cd)... Funny thing is, I came on here and was gonna browse for hardware to see if anyone was selling any controllers for it, then I saw a post that said turbofrafx lol.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: ffxik on May 13, 2013, 06:37:24 am
I own one and would recommend buying one.  It has some really great games for it.  However check around though the prices of these can get outrageous.    The games can get steep too.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: kimimi on May 13, 2013, 07:05:51 am
I don't own a TG-16 but I do own a PC Engine; it's a brilliant console, loads of great games out there for it.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: soera on May 13, 2013, 08:28:24 am
I just recently got another one (my 4th one in my life) and I wont lose this one. It is a decent system. My #1 reason for wanting this system is for Ys books I&II on the CD.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: blipcs76 on May 13, 2013, 09:46:35 am
I've had mine since I got it for Christmas in 1990, though like an idiot I sold all of my games a while ago. 

It really is a great console, with plenty of games worth owning like:
Bonk 1/2/3
Splatterhouse
Alien Crush/Devil's Crush
Ninja Spirit
Legendary Axe 1 & 2
Neutopia 1 & 2
and plenty others.  It's a great system for shooter fans.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: burningdoom on May 13, 2013, 12:24:47 pm
I have a TG-16, nice system with some great games. But Keith Courage is not one of those great games. It's strange, and it's cool to play through for that reason. But it's not gonna win any awards for the greatest platformer.

My TG-16 broke a couple years back. My fat-ass cat sat on the controller right where it plugs into the port, and broke the controller port, rendering the console useless. Never thought I'd come across one again at a decent price considering the retro-craze, so I sold all my games.

My awesome wife re-brought one for me just last year, after hearing me hold a grudge against the cat for a couple years. Since then I've only re-bought about 3 games for it, so I have a ways to go on getting my colleciton back.

As for the greatest systems of the 80s and 90s, come on now Slothing. You can't be serious, are you? With competition like the Commodore 64, NES, SNES, Genesis, and PS1; you can seriously say that? It's a good system, but not the best of the 80s and 90s.

Some recommendations, if you get one:

Action:
-Bloody Wolf
-Dungeon Explorer (fun little Gauntlet clone)
-Neutopia 1 & 2 (very well-made Zelda clones)
-Ninja Spirit
-Space Harrier
-Splatterhouse (slasher-themed action game)

Platformers:
-Bonk's Adventure
-Bonk's Revenge
-Legend of Hero Tonma
-New Adventure Island

Shoot-Em Ups: (This is the reason to own a TG-16, if you're a shoot-em up fan, a ton of great shmups on here)
-Blazing Lazers
-Dragon Spirit
-Lords of Thunder (this one is actually a CD-attachment game, but IMO, the best shoot-em up EVER. Such an awesome metal-themed rocking soundtrack on this one. I got to play it via Wii's virtual console, well worth the download.)
-R-Type
-Raiden
-Sidearms
-Super Star Soldier

Other:
-Alien Crush (very fun, and unique-looking, video pinball game)
-Cadash (an arcade action-RPG, as strange as that may sound, pretty short game, but fun)
-Victory Run (Rad Racer/Outrun clone)

I never did have the CD-attachment, so I never got to play some of the more well-known ones like Fighting Street (Street Fighter 1), Castlevania: Rondo of Blood or the later Ys titles.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: slothingXPIG on May 13, 2013, 02:58:32 pm
I have a TG-16, nice system with some great games. But Keith Courage is not one of those great games. It's strange, and it's cool to play through for that reason. But it's not gonna win any awards for the greatest platformer.

My TG-16 broke a couple years back. My fat-ass cat sat on the controller right where it plugs into the port, and broke the controller port, rendering the console useless. Never thought I'd come across one again at a decent price considering the retro-craze, so I sold all my games.

My awesome wife re-brought one for me just last year, after hearing me hold a grudge against the cat for a couple years. Since then I've only re-bought about 3 games for it, so I have a ways to go on getting my colleciton back.

As for the greatest systems of the 80s and 90s, come on now Slothing. You can't be serious, are you? With competition like the Commodore 64, NES, SNES, Genesis, and PS1; you can seriously say that? It's a good system, but not the best of the 80s and 90s.

Some recommendations, if you get one:

Action:
-Bloody Wolf
-Dungeon Explorer (fun little Gauntlet clone)
-Neutopia 1 & 2 (very well-made Zelda clones)
-Ninja Spirit
-Space Harrier
-Splatterhouse (slasher-themed action game)

Platformers:
-Bonk's Adventure
-Bonk's Revenge
-Legend of Hero Tonma
-New Adventure Island

Shoot-Em Ups: (This is the reason to own a TG-16, if you're a shoot-em up fan, a ton of great shmups on here)
-Blazing Lazers
-Dragon Spirit
-Lords of Thunder (this one is actually a CD-attachment game, but IMO, the best shoot-em up EVER. Such an awesome metal-themed rocking soundtrack on this one. I got to play it via Wii's virtual console, well worth the download.)
-R-Type
-Raiden
-Sidearms
-Super Star Soldier

Other:
-Alien Crush (very fun, and unique-looking, video pinball game)
-Cadash (an arcade action-RPG, as strange as that may sound, pretty short game, but fun)
-Victory Run (Rad Racer/Outrun clone)

I never did have the CD-attachment, so I never got to play some of the more well-known ones like Fighting Street (Street Fighter 1), Castlevania: Rondo of Blood or the later Ys titles.

Well the actual console its self is better then all in a way. I mean Nintendo and gen had better games but Nes would sometimes take 40 tries before ya got the damn thing to work...don't get me wrong I love Nes but as far as console goes it wasn't that great.  as for SNES, maybe I went to far SNES was good as shit.  The idea of hucards was awesome!! Lots of space  easy cleaning:) but maybe I went a lil overboard with it lol.. SNES and tg-16 was the best(IMO)
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 13, 2013, 04:14:00 pm
Certainly not the most popular.  I remember being a kid during that time frame, and never heard of or seen a Turbografx.  I remember even in 1991, one of my friends had an Atari 2600 with like 50 games, but never a TG 16.  When I learned what it was over the past year, I was amazed that some of the games looked excellent, and the console itself seemed very durable!!  I couldnt believe I never heard of it.  Same thing for me with the Sega Master System, all though popular in Europe, it died out in the US fairly quickly.  I bought one roughly 2 months ago and actually love it.  I feel like if it had the same library or similar to NES, it would have been great competition.  SlothinXPIG, if you do not have a Sega Master System, I recommend one of those, and to get Space Harrier in 3d, get the 3d glasses, and regular non 3d games like Phantasy Star, There was a golden axe game on it, Rampage, Alex Kidd and several more!  Great under rated system in my opinion.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 13, 2013, 04:15:19 pm

 but maybe I went a lil overboard with it lol.. SNES and tg-16 was the best(IMO)

I have to ask because I seen you put it a few times and I have no idea what that means.  What is IMO????
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: atariboy on May 13, 2013, 04:24:32 pm

 but maybe I went a lil overboard with it lol.. SNES and tg-16 was the best(IMO)

I have to ask because I seen you put it a few times and I have no idea what that means.  What is IMO????

IMO = In My Opinion  ;)
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 13, 2013, 04:39:00 pm

 but maybe I went a lil overboard with it lol.. SNES and tg-16 was the best(IMO)

I have to ask because I seen you put it a few times and I have no idea what that means.  What is IMO????

IMO = In My Opinion  ;)

ah okay lol.  Thanks Atari.  I know lol but thats about it  :D
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: soera on May 13, 2013, 05:04:37 pm
The SMS was an awesome system compared to the NES if you ask me. The system itself looks a lot cooler and the control pads are better than the squares but not as cool as the dogbone. The games however are what set the system apart to me. While the SMS only had 115ish games compared to the 765 on the NES, there is hardly anything on there that could be considered shovelware. Ive said it before about Phantasy star and Ill say it again - if it was released on the NES/SNES instead of the SMS/Genesis, it would be the RPG series of the future instead of what we have now. Miracle warriors is another awesome RPG and actually what my avatar name comes from. Golvellius is a weird but cool Zelda like clone. Golden Axe warrior is another Zelda like clone. R-type is one of the only shmups I really enjoy. Rocky is short but its a pretty fun game and to this day I can still hear the music in between rounds in my head. :P Ys is just like the one on the Turbografx but its only book 1. Basketball nightmare is a neat BB game where you play against monsters instead of other people. The slam dunk breakaway scenes are nice looking. Astro warrior is a basic shmup that isnt bad. Lots of other games too. I really could go on and on about the SMS. If it wasnt for the wife, the SMS would be what my wall consists of right now. :) It may still very well get there. :)
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: atariboy on May 13, 2013, 06:10:34 pm

 but maybe I went a lil overboard with it lol.. SNES and tg-16 was the best(IMO)

I have to ask because I seen you put it a few times and I have no idea what that means.  What is IMO????

IMO = In My Opinion  ;)

ah okay lol.  Thanks Atari.  I know lol but thats about it  :D
No worries I'm the same way, I have to look up some of those, guess being one of the older folkes on here is why  :D
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: sin2beta on May 13, 2013, 06:14:23 pm
The SMS was an awesome system compared to the NES if you ask me. The system itself looks a lot cooler and the control pads are better than the squares but not as cool as the dogbone.

I've posted this quote before, but it still makes me smile as a description of the Master System.

Quote
I love the Sega Master System.  Slick and sophisticated, its clean lines and crisp colors suggest an elegant lady assassin ridin' dirty on corinthian leather seats to a ballroom in order to eliminate the latest target.  It's got a flow chart printed on it that lets you know how the shit goes down on a day-to-day.  Its color scheme: black and red, the colors of a brotherman on the run.  It says to me, "fun is serious business."

Amazing! I would take the top 20 SMS games over the top 20 NES games any day. I don't know if I would take the top 100 SMS games over the top 100 NES games though. The system just didn't have many amazing games. But seriously, phantasy star... phantasy star... I played the original over 20 years after it came out and my jaw dropped. That game is absolutely amazing. And Wonder Boy 3 Dragon's Trap... oh... my... god...fantastic. I am shocked at how Wonder Boy is forgotten. They just kept getting better. Monster World 4 is one of the most beautiful 16-bit games I have seen.

Anyways, the TG-16 is amazing. Especially if you like shooters. I like shooters. Pat the NES punk did a pretty good episode on the TG-16.

Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 13, 2013, 06:19:17 pm
so thats what soera comes from lol 8); i got to try that one.  I havent played the golden axe on SMS but I seen the gameplay on youtube and Zelda was my first thought.  CAnt wait to get that one, one day
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 13, 2013, 06:21:15 pm
So SlothingXPLG, have we convinced you to get a Sega Master System yet???
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: burningdoom on May 13, 2013, 07:00:32 pm
I love the Sega Master System too. The system itself is more handsome looking than the NES and gives you less problems (no blinkies). And the graphics are brighter and more colorful.

But still, the NES's game library beats the SMS's game library, EASILY. Wonder Boy and the Sonic the Hedgehog SMS may be cool platformers, but they've got nothing on Super Mario Bros. 1-3 and Duck Tales 1 & 2. Golden Axe: Warrior wishes it was as good as the Legend of Zelda and Crystalis. Zillion is pretty cool but I'd still take Metroid over it. NES's Ninja Gaiden may not look as good, but the gameplay is 10 times better. Sega Master System got R-Type over the NES, I'll give it that, but then at the same time NES got Gradius and LifeForce and SMS didn't. There's nothing on SMS to compare to the Castlevania series, Mega Man series, Contra, or Bionic Commando among others.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 13, 2013, 07:41:45 pm
I love the Sega Master System too. The system itself is more handsome looking than the NES and gives you less problems (no blinkies). And the graphics are brighter and more colorful.

But still, the NES's game library beats the SMS's game library, EASILY. Wonder Boy and the Sonic the Hedgehog SMS may be cool platformers, but they've got nothing on Super Mario Bros. 1-3 and Duck Tales 1 & 2. Golden Axe: Warrior wishes it was as good as the Legend of Zelda and Crystalis. Zillion is pretty cool but I'd still take Metroid over it. NES's Ninja Gaiden may not look as good, but the gameplay is 10 times better. Sega Master System got R-Type over the NES, I'll give it that, but then at the same time NES got Gradius and LifeForce and SMS didn't. There's nothing on SMS to compare to the Castlevania series, Mega Man series, Contra, or Bionic Commando among others.

Thats one classic I have never played.  That is Mega Man.  When I was a kid, I had a friend down the street who was a die hard Mega Man fan.  He did nothing but talk about Mega Man, so it made me never want to play it.  Now I regret it.  Thats something I got to get is the Mega Man NES CIB collection.  I remember when we were playing Donkey Kong on the super nintendo, he was playing Mega Man 5 or something lol
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: soera on May 13, 2013, 07:55:08 pm
Dont bother with Mega man series on the NES ... you can get the collection on Gamecube or PS2 and have all the games plus a few extras for cheaper than you can buy MM 1.

As far as NES vs SMS, I dont want to open that can of worms. Sure the NES has some awesome titles but they also have enough shit titles to outnumber the entire NES library. It was partially Sega's own fault but they really limited themselves on 2nd and 3rd party stuff. I just wonder what would have happened if Konami, Capcom, Square, Enix, and some other companies supported SMS instead of the NES.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: burningdoom on May 13, 2013, 08:04:25 pm
As if the SMS had no shovelware of it's own, there are some bad ones that I can think of:

-Alex Kidd in High Tech World
-Alex Kidd and the Lost Stars
-Alf
-Altered Beast (TERRIBLE port)
-The Flash
-Mortal Kombat (TERRIBLE port)
-Rocky
-Superman: The Man of Steel
-Vigilante
-X-Men: Mojo World
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: soera on May 13, 2013, 08:20:21 pm
MK wasnt a US release. Neither was the Flash, Superman, or X-men. Rocky was pretty cool ... It wasnt as great as MTPO but it was fun. I actually liked the Altered Beast port. I wont try to defend the Alex Kidd games. They are what they are. They will never compete with Mario. Vigilante Ive never seen before. Alf is .... Alf!  :P

As far as the non US release games, the SMS had a seriously long life in European and Australian areas. It had a full decade of life in most of those areas.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: burningdoom on May 13, 2013, 08:22:28 pm
SMS is region-free.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: soera on May 13, 2013, 08:27:16 pm
I know ... but for the most part, I consider the US library its library for all normal purposes. http://segaage.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Search.Results&&pId=141 is the entire actual library of games for the SMS.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: slothingXPIG on May 13, 2013, 09:02:42 pm
So SlothingXPLG, have we convinced you to get a Sega Master System yet???

Actually I have been looking around for one for the past month.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: sin2beta on May 13, 2013, 09:13:01 pm
Yeah, in the US it really didn't have shovelware. Almost by definition. Shovelware requires a popular system. But of the 114-115US games, I'd say about 15 are crap. Dynamite Dux comes to mind. The other crap games were also on the NES: Ghostbusters. I honestly feel that the UK was mostly shovelware free as well. Brazil... well that's a different story. TecToy Shoveled it on. And while the SMS is region free in a way (kinda, has two regions, I'd say) TecToy almost counts as it's own company for SMS. SEGA was not in Brazil, TecToy was. The SMS was handled very differently in the different regions due to the different ownership.

Quote
-Alex Kidd in High Tech World
-Alex Kidd and the Lost Stars
-Alf
-Altered Beast (TERRIBLE port)
-The Flash
-Mortal Kombat (TERRIBLE port)
-Rocky
-Superman: The Man of Steel
-Vigilante
-X-Men: Mojo World

I would argue that some of these are not shovelware. The Alex Kidd games may be weird but not shovelware. I would also argue that Altered Beast was a decent port for the hardware. The gameplay is very similar in feel. The graphics took a huge downturn. But that is to be expected. Castlevania had a similar port downgrade when it made its way to the NES from the MSX. Terrible port? Maybe in a way. Still fun and one of the best games on the NES. It's just the NES is no MSX. Just like the SMS is no arcade or Genesis.

Mojo World. shovelware. Good old Brazil.

The rest, I've never played.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: slothingXPIG on May 13, 2013, 09:45:48 pm
Would you guys say that sms system model 1 or 2 is better?
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: sin2beta on May 13, 2013, 10:01:51 pm
Would you guys say that sms system model 1 or 2 is better?

Model 1. The SMS 2 came with Alex Kidd (a few with sonic). But that is where the good stops. It feels like a toy. Is missing the card slot. And worst of all.... no flow chart.  >:(
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: kingrat101 on May 13, 2013, 10:59:38 pm
I enjoy the master system a lot because of game like Golden Axe warrior and Shinobi, as well as Rampage, neat little system
To get back on topic with the Turbo however Im on the other side of the fence with that. I dislike the system, Im not saying I think it's horrible or anything, just very underwhelming. I think a lot of the games are mediocre at best. I mean if you want your shoot-em-up fix go to the Saturn, platformers? snes or genesis. Compared to the competition the Turbo is not that great. I agree for the time it was underrated, I mean nobody cared about it, however now the prices are insane! and its not worth it. It's a very pretty 8-bit console with little to offer
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: burningdoom on May 13, 2013, 11:38:40 pm
Yeah, in the US it really didn't have shovelware. Almost by definition. Shovelware requires a popular system. But of the 114-115US games, I'd say about 15 are crap. Dynamite Dux comes to mind. The other crap games were also on the NES: Ghostbusters. I honestly feel that the UK was mostly shovelware free as well. Brazil... well that's a different story. TecToy Shoveled it on. And while the SMS is region free in a way (kinda, has two regions, I'd say) TecToy almost counts as it's own company for SMS. SEGA was not in Brazil, TecToy was. The SMS was handled very differently in the different regions due to the different ownership.

Quote
-Alex Kidd in High Tech World
-Alex Kidd and the Lost Stars
-Alf
-Altered Beast (TERRIBLE port)
-The Flash
-Mortal Kombat (TERRIBLE port)
-Rocky
-Superman: The Man of Steel
-Vigilante
-X-Men: Mojo World

I would argue that some of these are not shovelware. The Alex Kidd games may be weird but not shovelware. I would also argue that Altered Beast was a decent port for the hardware. The gameplay is very similar in feel. The graphics took a huge downturn. But that is to be expected. Castlevania had a similar port downgrade when it made its way to the NES from the MSX. Terrible port? Maybe in a way. Still fun and one of the best games on the NES. It's just the NES is no MSX. Just like the SMS is no arcade or Genesis.

Mojo World. shovelware. Good old Brazil.

The rest, I've never played.

Altered Beast a decent port? Not by any means of the definition. The game is buggy, glitchy, and slow. It never should have been on the Master System. Castlevania may not have looked as good, but it still played just fine.

As for Alex Kidd, the other entries are good, but those 2 in particular aren't so great. It was like Sega saw they might have a hit on their hands with the first game so they just shoved those 2 out the door real quick for a cash grab.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: sin2beta on May 13, 2013, 11:53:25 pm
We may have to agree to disagree on altered beast. I didn't notice bugs. As for slow... that's altered beast. It's a pretty slow game.

I'll be honest, I hate most Alex Kidd games. But one has to separate things one dislikes from bad. Lost stars was an arcade game. It was an arcade game and thus a race against the timer. It's very different but not shovelware. It is my least favorite Alex Kidd. But it was not incompetent or put out without thought. It just is not my type of game.

High Tech World was actually a very popular game from my understanding in Japan. It's original name is anmitsu hime. SEGA thought the anime theme would not do well in the west and reskinned it. Basically, they super mario 2'd that shit. Still not my type of game, but just like Mario 2, I can look past that I don't like it and notice that it is not a bad game. It just is not one I like.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 14, 2013, 12:03:06 am
Would you guys say that sms system model 1 or 2 is better?

Get a Model 1 because of the card slot.  The beauty of the card slot, is this is how you can play 3d games.  The model 2 has no card hook up and 3d requires the card slot.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 14, 2013, 12:06:27 am
The SMS was an awesome system compared to the NES if you ask me. The system itself looks a lot cooler and the control pads are better than the squares but not as cool as the dogbone. The games however are what set the system apart to me. While the SMS only had 115ish games compared to the 765 on the NES, there is hardly anything on there that could be considered shovelware. Ive said it before about Phantasy star and Ill say it again - if it was released on the NES/SNES instead of the SMS/Genesis, it would be the RPG series of the future instead of what we have now. Miracle warriors is another awesome RPG and actually what my avatar name comes from. Golvellius is a weird but cool Zelda like clone. Golden Axe warrior is another Zelda like clone. R-type is one of the only shmups I really enjoy. Rocky is short but its a pretty fun game and to this day I can still hear the music in between rounds in my head. :P Ys is just like the one on the Turbografx but its only book 1. Basketball nightmare is a neat BB game where you play against monsters instead of other people. The slam dunk breakaway scenes are nice looking. Astro warrior is a basic shmup that isnt bad. Lots of other games too. I really could go on and on about the SMS. If it wasnt for the wife, the SMS would be what my wall consists of right now. :) It may still very well get there. :)

I looked up game play of miracle warriors on youtube and looked pretty cool :) I would have to get used to view but looks like a cool old skool rpg.  thanks for that info
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: kimimi on May 14, 2013, 12:07:14 am
SMS is region-free.

Not quite true - Japanese games use a different pinout and won't work on a PAL/US SMS or SMS Mega Drive/Genesis adapter.

I know it's picky but I didn't want to not point it out in case somebody decided to pick up a few Japanese games based on that info.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: burningdoom on May 14, 2013, 12:12:00 am
SMS is region-free.

Not quite true - Japanese games use a different pinout and won't work on a PAL/US SMS or SMS Mega Drive/Genesis adapter.

I know it's picky but I didn't want to not point it out in case somebody decided to pick up a few Japanese games based on that info.

I actually didn't know that. I've never looked into Japanese SMS games, more U.K. and Brazil.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: kimimi on May 14, 2013, 12:19:04 am
I actually didn't know that. I've never looked into Japanese SMS games, more U.K. and Brazil.

That's OK; it's an obscure bit on info on a relatively unpopular format (my speciality, I suppose  :o ) - I just didn't want anyone ending up with games that won't work on their systems :)
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: patrickmeansly on May 14, 2013, 12:27:51 am
I actually didn't know that. I've never looked into Japanese SMS games, more U.K. and Brazil.

That's OK; it's an obscure bit on info on a relatively unpopular format (my speciality, I suppose  :o ) - I just didn't want anyone ending up with games that won't work on their systems :)

I didnt know that either.  Thanks seriously.  I would be pissed if i got a 50 dollar japan sms game to find out it would not work lol
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: pceslayer on May 15, 2013, 05:18:34 pm
SMS is region-free.

Not quite true - Japanese games use a different pinout and won't work on a PAL/US SMS or SMS Mega Drive/Genesis adapter.

I know it's picky but I didn't want to not point it out in case somebody decided to pick up a few Japanese games based on that info.

I actually didn't know that. I've never looked into Japanese SMS games, more U.K. and Brazil.

The statement that the Master System is region free is an interesting one. Not every game will play on a NTSC Master System due to 50/60hz video switching.


http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12093
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: sin2beta on May 15, 2013, 05:36:12 pm
SMS is region-free.

Not quite true - Japanese games use a different pinout and won't work on a PAL/US SMS or SMS Mega Drive/Genesis adapter.

I know it's picky but I didn't want to not point it out in case somebody decided to pick up a few Japanese games based on that info.

I actually didn't know that. I've never looked into Japanese SMS games, more U.K. and Brazil.

The statement that the Master System is region free is an interesting one. Not every game will play on a NTSC Master System due to 50/60hz video switching.


http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12093

I love that site. They know their stuff.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: burningdoom on May 15, 2013, 08:36:13 pm
SMS is region-free.

Not quite true - Japanese games use a different pinout and won't work on a PAL/US SMS or SMS Mega Drive/Genesis adapter.

I know it's picky but I didn't want to not point it out in case somebody decided to pick up a few Japanese games based on that info.

I actually didn't know that. I've never looked into Japanese SMS games, more U.K. and Brazil.

The statement that the Master System is region free is an interesting one. Not every game will play on a NTSC Master System due to 50/60hz video switching.


http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12093

Well I can tell you right now that list isn't accurate. I have a Power Base Converter and F-16 Fighting Falcon works fine. As does Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: sin2beta on May 15, 2013, 08:45:48 pm
SMS is region-free.

Not quite true - Japanese games use a different pinout and won't work on a PAL/US SMS or SMS Mega Drive/Genesis adapter.

I know it's picky but I didn't want to not point it out in case somebody decided to pick up a few Japanese games based on that info.

I actually didn't know that. I've never looked into Japanese SMS games, more U.K. and Brazil.

The statement that the Master System is region free is an interesting one. Not every game will play on a NTSC Master System due to 50/60hz video switching.


http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12093

Well I can tell you right now that list isn't accurate. I have a Power Base Converter and F-16 Fighting Falcon works fine. As does Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

How far did you play? The Genesis only supports mode 4 video. Fighting falcon does not run in this mode. It won't work. Skip to 2:50 of the following video.

Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: burningdoom on May 15, 2013, 09:21:21 pm
SMS is region-free.

Not quite true - Japanese games use a different pinout and won't work on a PAL/US SMS or SMS Mega Drive/Genesis adapter.

I know it's picky but I didn't want to not point it out in case somebody decided to pick up a few Japanese games based on that info.

I actually didn't know that. I've never looked into Japanese SMS games, more U.K. and Brazil.

The statement that the Master System is region free is an interesting one. Not every game will play on a NTSC Master System due to 50/60hz video switching.


http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12093

Well I can tell you right now that list isn't accurate. I have a Power Base Converter and F-16 Fighting Falcon works fine. As does Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

How far did you play? The Genesis only supports mode 4 video. Fighting falcon does not run in this mode. It won't work. Skip to 2:50 of the following video.


I thought we were talking about NTSC/PAL? That screenshot looks like it has Japanese letters in it.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: sin2beta on May 15, 2013, 09:26:49 pm
That's the border the youtubers put around the 4:3 screen of the master system to fill the 16:9 computer screens most of us have. It is not Japanese at all.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: burningdoom on May 15, 2013, 09:32:15 pm
I can't say, then. I have a Sega Power Unit Converter on a Sega Genesis Model 1. I don't know the techinical specifics of all that stuff, never been too much into that side of things in gaming. All I know is it worked. As did Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: soera on May 15, 2013, 10:23:34 pm
Nice post. I was curious about that myself. Good thing to know that none of the games Im interested in are on that list!
Title: Re: TURBOGRAFX 16
Post by: pceslayer on May 16, 2013, 08:16:27 pm
I can't say, then. I have a Sega Power Unit Converter on a Sega Genesis Model 1. I don't know the techinical specifics of all that stuff, never been too much into that side of things in gaming. All I know is it worked. As did Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

As do I... I will go test them and report back.