General and Gaming => Off Topic => Topic started by: bloodybaron on July 17, 2014, 02:06:45 pm
Title: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: bloodybaron on July 17, 2014, 02:06:45 pm
After starting to collect video games and lot of other stuff I either wanted or had when I was younger is making me realize how much I miss everything else. I used to play hockey and lacrosse starting with the clinics before kindergarten all the way until I graduated high school and I being able to play competitively. I play pickup games sometimes whenever they have them, but the skill level usually just isn't there and there's no intensity to it. Luckily things like video games are easy to get back, but what do you guys miss from being a kid but can't get back?
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Post by: abe on July 17, 2014, 02:25:39 pm
Recess was the shit. I'll never get to experience recess again. :'(
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Post by: burningdoom on July 17, 2014, 03:51:56 pm
Well, since I'm still into comic books and video games, I never really let go of my childhood things I loved.
I do, however, miss rental places. Browsing through the movie categories that were chock full of stuff you never heard of. Renting the latest game coming out. Getting free popcorn with our purchases. Arguing movies and games with the workers.
Heck, ours even had a sort of console arcade. They had all the big systems at the time (NES, SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, Saturn, N64, PS1, and even Jaguar) set-up to play. You could play any game they had that wasn't rented out. You'd pay by the hour. As kids we spent a lot of money there.
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Post by: gartcat on July 17, 2014, 04:18:15 pm
Saturday morning cartoons!!!!!
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Post by: fiveforfightng on July 17, 2014, 08:49:12 pm
I miss birthday parties, which still happen, I'm sure, but not for people my age.
I miss being able to just go to a friend's house and not having it be weird. Now we just would rather stay home.
I miss when people had conversations with only one person at a time, and not on their phones at the same time. Phones are cool, but they have taken over our lives.
I miss when everyone used to listen to the radio. Now everyone uses Spotify or Pandora, which isn't real radio.
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Post by: scott on July 17, 2014, 08:58:31 pm
Summer Vacation, and a swimming pool...
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Post by: maximo310 on July 18, 2014, 08:06:22 pm
Seeing people you know just chillin outside making it easy to start conversations. Now, there is no one outside just to hang or play anymore and many people in my neighborhood are confined indoors except for a few old people.
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Post by: Warmsignal on July 20, 2014, 01:29:41 am
+1 for the era before smart phones.
Also, old friends, pets, stores that no longer exist / when the mall used to seem like a cool place to go.
Hopes, dreams, ambitions, etc.
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Post by: atarileaf on August 09, 2014, 05:35:36 pm
I miss my youth and innocence
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Post by: dstone on August 19, 2014, 10:49:41 am
I really miss the Radio Shack Outlet Store. That place was great. Of course, this was back in the day before they became nothing more than a cell phone dealer. They had racks of clearance gear that didn't sell, store returns that still worked fine and the glorious "Bargain Basement." The Bargain Basement had shelves stuffed full of broken gear that you could pick up on the super cheap (RC cars for $1 and stuff like that) for attempting repairs or parting out for other projects. They also dropped quite a few Tandy computers in there as they upgraded their various stores to newer hardware. So much awesome stuff back there for the electronics hobbyist.
I work at a small independent TV station and have tried to bring back some Saturday morning cartoons. Due to a lot of the regulations in place for advertising it would make it extremely difficult for us to recoup any of the costs. Being as small as we are, operating at a loss for that time spot would be far more damaging than larger stations. Ultimately we wind up running religious, hunting, sports and infomercial programming on the weekends. :'( I guess I shouldn't be sad as it means I still get a paycheck, but it's still the principle of the thing.
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Post by: fazerco on August 19, 2014, 12:10:08 pm
I miss East vs West, with the Berlin wall. But it might come back :P
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Post by: stuntman64 on August 19, 2014, 03:27:13 pm
I miss birthday parties, which still happen, I'm sure, but not for people my age.
I miss being able to just go to a friend's house and not having it be weird. Now we just would rather stay home.
I miss when people had conversations with only one person at a time, and not on their phones at the same time. Phones are cool, but they have taken over our lives.
I miss when everyone used to listen to the radio. Now everyone uses Spotify or Pandora, which isn't real radio.
I miss all of these too.
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Post by: spac316 on August 20, 2014, 03:41:58 am
I miss dedicated Arcades. They are few and far between.
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Post by: 90snostalga on August 20, 2014, 10:15:20 am
I miss my youth in general and mainly just having friends to hang with and have fun. Now I'm old with no friends and no matter what life sucks and then we die...
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Post by: 90snostalga on August 20, 2014, 10:26:33 am
Well, since I'm still into comic books and video games, I never really let go of my childhood things I loved.
I do, however, miss rental places. Browsing through the movie categories that were chock full of stuff you never heard of. Renting the latest game coming out. Getting free popcorn with our purchases. Arguing movies and games with the workers.
Agreed. The era when I could go to a blockbuster to rent a game or movie and have an actual blockbuster night was so much fun. And the era when not everyone could go online to search for everything. I also miss listening to cassette tapes and seeing them in store. Everything about my child hood I miss :'(
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Post by: blipcs76 on August 20, 2014, 10:38:56 am
I miss dedicated Arcades. They are few and far between.
^^^ This
There are still arcades around, but the ones I've been to are focused on redemption games for kids. If they even have games, its mostly gun games, racing games and rhythm games. I'm talking about arcades that were 90% arcade games and pinball machines. They were a huge part of my youth, but as I grew into an adult the 'video' arcade was essentially dead.
Nothing will ever replicate the feeling of going into an arcade with a $5 bill to turn into quarters. The sounds of 50 games meshed into one single sound -- the arcade sound -- comprised of Pac Man eating dots, the sound of Mario walking and jumping in Donkey Kong, the music from Galaga, etc. It used to walk around the arcade at least once to see every game before I decided where to put my first quarter. The arcade was stuff that was way better than what you could play at home and was a social experience.
This is why I have six arcade games in my basement. While nothing can replicate the experience of going into an arcade in 1988 where the games are fresh, new and amazing, I can mimic that experience at home. If I ever get rich or win the lottery, I'm building an arcade in my house with at least 40 machines :)
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Post by: burningdoom on August 20, 2014, 12:20:25 pm
I miss dedicated Arcades. They are few and far between.
^^^ This
There are still arcades around, but the ones I've been to are focused on redemption games for kids. If they even have games, its mostly gun games, racing games and rhythm games. I'm talking about arcades that were 90% arcade games and pinball machines. They were a huge part of my youth, but as I grew into an adult the 'video' arcade was essentially dead.
Nothing will ever replicate the feeling of going into an arcade with a $5 bill to turn into quarters. The sounds of 50 games meshed into one single sound -- the arcade sound -- comprised of Pac Man eating dots, the sound of Mario walking and jumping in Donkey Kong, the music from Galaga, etc. It used to walk around the arcade at least once to see every game before I decided where to put my first quarter. The arcade was stuff that was way better than what you could play at home and was a social experience.
This is why I have six arcade games in my basement. While nothing can replicate the experience of going into an arcade in 1988 where the games are fresh, new and amazing, I can mimic that experience at home. If I ever get rich or win the lottery, I'm building an arcade in my house with at least 40 machines :)
I've said this for years. And then we finally did get one in town again, and I never seem to go, lol. I did try to go on a Sunday once (on the weekend mind you), and it was freaking closed!
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Post by: burningdoom on August 20, 2014, 12:21:41 pm
I miss drive-in theaters. Getting your family piled together in the car. Mom making popcorn and other goodies to bring. Getting all comfy under a blanket. And watching double and triple-features of action flicks and monster movies. Great times.
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Post by: 90snostalga on August 20, 2014, 12:26:46 pm
I miss drive-in theaters. Getting your family piled together in the car. Mom making popcorn and other goodies to bring. Getting all comfy under a blanket. And watching double and triple-features of action flicks and monster movies. Great times.
I've never even seen a drive in movie. I must be too young to have witnesses them but man does that sound good :)
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Post by: burningdoom on August 20, 2014, 12:52:57 pm
^ I was quite young when they tore ours down. Like 7 years old.
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Post by: turf on August 20, 2014, 12:59:10 pm
Believe it or not, I have an operating Drive-in 45 min from me. It's a lot of fun.
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Post by: burningdoom on August 20, 2014, 01:57:42 pm
Believe it or not, I have an operating Drive-in 45 min from me. It's a lot of fun.
You lucky SOB.
Do they still do monster-movie-fests on the weekend?
It's all new stuff. They are only open on Friday and Saturday nights. They usually get a movie about 2-3 after it comes out. Like this weekend is TMNT.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: burningdoom on August 20, 2014, 03:43:51 pm
Believe it or not, I have an operating Drive-in 45 min from me. It's a lot of fun.
You lucky SOB.
Do they still do monster-movie-fests on the weekend?
It's all new stuff. They are only open on Friday and Saturday nights. They usually get a movie about 2-3 after it comes out. Like this weekend is TMNT.
Oh man, how can you have a drive-in movie and not have late-night monster movies?!
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Post by: dashv on August 21, 2014, 02:37:09 am
I miss drive-in theaters. Getting your family piled together in the car. Mom making popcorn and other goodies to bring. Getting all comfy under a blanket. And watching double and triple-features of action flicks and monster movies. Great times.
I saw the new TMNT with my boy last week. Turns out the old Drive-In at the bottom of my hill (no kidding 5 minutes from my house) is still running strong.
It was $5 for me $1 for him and 6 for a HUGE tub of buttered popcorn.
We watched it with a group of fellow retro game fanatics: https://www.facebook.com/events/491503610979801/?ref=br_tf
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: burningdoom on August 21, 2014, 02:44:02 am
I miss drive-in theaters. Getting your family piled together in the car. Mom making popcorn and other goodies to bring. Getting all comfy under a blanket. And watching double and triple-features of action flicks and monster movies. Great times.
I saw the new TMNT with my boy last week. Turns out the old Drive-In at the bottom of my hill (no kidding 5 minutes from my house) is still running strong.
It was $5 for me $1 for him and 6 for a HUGE tub of buttered popcorn.
We watched it with a group of fellow retro game fanatics: https://www.facebook.com/events/491503610979801/?ref=br_tf
They would charge us per car, no matter how many people you had crammed in it.
But you can't complain when it's only $1 for the kid.
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Post by: doafan on August 23, 2014, 02:20:41 pm
Sundays morning Wrestling, seriously this were the best moments of my life as a kid, love to see Super Porky and his brothers Brazo de Plata and Brazo kicking as many butts as possible and if you are wondering you were these dudes you definitely didn't watch Mexican Wrestling to much :D
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Post by: kr2nist on December 21, 2014, 12:57:24 am
There are still arcades around, but the ones I've been to are focused on redemption games for kids. If they even have games, its mostly gun games, racing games and rhythm games. I'm talking about arcades that were 90% arcade games and pinball machines. They were a huge part of my youth, but as I grew into an adult the 'video' arcade was essentially dead.
Nothing will ever replicate the feeling of going into an arcade with a $5 bill to turn into quarters. The sounds of 50 games meshed into one single sound -- the arcade sound -- comprised of Pac Man eating dots, the sound of Mario walking and jumping in Donkey Kong, the music from Galaga, etc. It used to walk around the arcade at least once to see every game before I decided where to put my first quarter. The arcade was stuff that was way better than what you could play at home and was a social experience.
Yes, video arcades were also a very big part of my youth also....oh how I loved the times when I'd be at a shopping mall and would have the opportunity to blow some money on some arcade gaming bliss! I too would stroll through an arcade first before plunking my first 25 cents -- and who else here remembers back when it only cost ONE quarter to play a game, as opposed to having to deposit at least a dollar or more?? It was truly a social experience like no other, especially when being fortunate enough to get the high score on a game and getting to proudly enter your name (which was usually just your initials).
Other things I miss.......
Watching Saturday morning cartoons until noon, when T.V. programming would then turn to complete crap once cartoons were over.
Spending summers at the community center swimming pool, even when the pool water was cold enough to turn your skin blue.
When "social networking" meant hanging out and playing outside with your friends....and NOT "liking" and commenting on your friends' Facebook statuses.
Going to the beach every summer with my parents.
Going to a friend's house to play Atari 2600 games.
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Post by: retroone on December 21, 2014, 11:23:49 am
Good Cartoons. All the cartoons nowadays look like they were created by preschoolers. I'm looking at you Uncle Grandpa and Adventure Time...
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: byron on December 21, 2014, 12:04:21 pm
What if I told you... That cartoons today are no different than they were fifteen years ago, you just got older and your tastes changed?
(http://i.imgur.com/RfWWO91.jpg) Still miss them though.
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Post by: disgaeniac on December 21, 2014, 01:30:10 pm
the 80's!
Holy shit, do I miss the 80's :'(
Never had so much fun, felt so highgood, and loved & was loved as much, as well, and as often ;D
Life was lower-tech but...I think, in a nice & charming kind of way.
Arcades were the shit, + D&D and video gaming were new-ish, fresh, and on the rise.
Metal, hair bands, and power ballads were born & Rhandy Rhodes and Cliff Burton were fucking *Alive*, man!
Sure - in high school, we all fought...A LOT *But* we did so w/o guns or blades and -usually- after kicking ass (or getting your ass kicked:) we hugged our opponent, re-affirmed our friendship & loyalty to each other, laughed-off whatever we'd fought about, and drank/smoked some more...and forgot all about the whole thing ;)
My fellow VGC'ers, who lived through/during this decade...will know that I'm speaking the Gospel truth - when, 'I'll tell you what'...
...the word "aids" meant nothing but helping and, the word "crack" had more to do with the plumber's ass --and-- had nothing to do with drugs.
Seriously.
No disease called "aids".
No drug called "crack".
Life was truly different & thus able to be lived differently...almost like another world... 8)
"Those Were the Days"
(from All In the Family)
should be playing - out loud *or* internally in the minds of all who lived it, knew it, loved & hated it, miss it, and grieve, lament, and hate the fact that there can't & won't ever be another 80's... :-\
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Post by: dashv on December 21, 2014, 01:40:30 pm
Yep. Those were the days.
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Post by: tafk on December 21, 2014, 07:49:29 pm
Having a summer where I could literally do nothing but hang out with friends and play games for 3 months straight.
Also fucking Blockbuster, something that really defined a generation and I'm upset my future kids will never get to experience it.
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Post by: turf on December 21, 2014, 08:16:06 pm
Having a summer where I could literally do nothing but hang out with friends and play games for 3 months straight.
I'm with ya on that. Summer vacation, winter vacation, snow days, and spring break. Days off that I didn't have to do squat. I'd love to go back to that.
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Post by: kr2nist on December 21, 2014, 11:45:59 pm
What if I told you... That cartoons today are no different than they were fifteen years ago, you just got older and your tastes changed?
Very true, byron. ;D But still, for those of us who had the opportunity to experience it, nothin' screams Saturday more than watching the likes of classic "Looney Tunes" and "Godzilla" while sitting right in front of the T.V. and gorging on several bowls of cereal. lol!
And speaking of old cartoons, what are some of y'all's favorite 'toons from back in the day?
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Post by: dashv on December 22, 2014, 12:36:44 am
The Super Mario Brothers Super Show And Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
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Post by: byron on December 22, 2014, 01:10:42 am
My favorite childhood cartoons are the predictable choices for someone my age: Ren & Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life, Animaniacs, Dexter's Laboratory, Courage the Cowardly Dog, et cetera. Also Warner Bros. and MGM cartoons from the '40s.
Case in point. I loved this show when I was a kid, but I found some episodes on VHS and watched them as an adult and, while I still love them, I can now see how glaringly crappy they are.
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Post by: bikingjahuty on December 22, 2014, 02:51:43 am
- Saturday Morning Cartoons - Southglenn Mall (the mall that I used to go to all the time until it was torn down in 2006) - Video rental stores - When Pokemon ruled the world - Toonami (we're talking the original run, not the one day a week crap they do now) - My dad's old house - My brother before he grew up and decided being a dork was beneath him - Collecting games before everyone else and their dog was doing it - Sega, when they made awesome consoles - Borders Books (fell in love with this chain towards the end of their life) - Software Ect and EBX before Gamestop's hostile takeover - Many of my childhood friends (funny enough, I have tried reconnecting with a few, but it just isn't the same) - That intense anticipation of Christmas and Birthdays that started a month prior to the event.
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Post by: bikingjahuty on December 22, 2014, 02:56:32 am
I miss dedicated Arcades. They are few and far between.
I forgot about this one. There closest thing I have to this is a bar in downtown Denver called 1up that is pretty cool, but sadly they have not really changed anything in two years, and they lack a lot of the mid to late 90s machines I am most fond of. It would be nice to just have a dedicated arcade like I used to have when I was younger :(
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Post by: retroone on December 22, 2014, 09:11:42 am
Tom and Jerry Loony Tunes Rugrats Spiderman and any Cartoon Network show that was airing around 2004.
As a kid I watched way to much t.v!
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Post by: kr2nist on December 22, 2014, 11:40:36 am
My favorite childhood cartoons are the predictable choices for someone my age: Ren & Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life, Animaniacs, Dexter's Laboratory, Courage the Cowardly Dog, et cetera. Also Warner Bros. and MGM cartoons from the '40s.
Case in point. I loved this show when I was a kid, but I found some episodes on VHS and watched them as an adult and, while I still love them, I can now see how glaringly crappy they are.
Definitely love Courage The Cowardly Dog, Ren & Stimpy, and The Animaniacs (especially "Pinky & The Brain"...FTW!).
And as for The Super Mario Brothers Super Show, of course I knew the episodes were crappy right off the bat, but come on now....how could I NOT watch Super Mario Bros.? lol!
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Post by: kr2nist on December 22, 2014, 11:45:34 am
- Borders Books (fell in love with this chain towards the end of their life) - Software Ect and EBX before Gamestop's hostile takeover
I was a HUGE fan of Borders Books, Waldenbooks, and Crown Books back in the day! And oh my god, how I loved Software Etc and EBX (aka Electronics Boutique)....and let's not also FuncoLand too.
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Post by: burningdoom on December 22, 2014, 12:58:01 pm
What if I told you... That cartoons today are no different than they were fifteen years ago, you just got older and your tastes changed?
No. That's not right. Cartoons are completely different today. You can't tell me that cartoons like He-Man, Batman, Looney Toons, and Donald Duck are the same as Adventure Time, Phineas & Ferb, and Gumball. They're worlds apart.
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Post by: byron on December 22, 2014, 02:17:07 pm
Warner Bros. and Disney shorts are different. They were expensively produced for movie theaters seventy years ago and are simply not part of a discussion about TV cartoons.
Batman: The Animated Series is easily comparable to today's cartoons. It was animated cheaply, but in a visually interesting way by underpaid Koreans. The writing was, admit it, good but not stellar. That description fits early Adventure Time and Gumball pretty well too.
He-Man is an animated toy catalog. We still have cartoons like that today. (http://www.hasbro.com/mylittlepony/en_US/)
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Post by: fazerco on December 22, 2014, 02:42:04 pm
I miss my first car. The Opel Manta.
(picture from the internet, mine was yellow) (http://www.motorstown.com/images/opel-manta-berlinetta-02.jpg)
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Post by: burningdoom on December 22, 2014, 03:48:39 pm
Warner Bros. and Disney shorts are different. They were expensively produced for movie theaters seventy years ago and are simply not part of a discussion about TV cartoons.
Batman: The Animated Series is easily comparable to today's cartoons. It was animated cheaply, but in a visually interesting way by underpaid Koreans. The writing was, admit it, good but not stellar. That description fits early Adventure Time and Gumball pretty well too.
He-Man is an animated toy catalog. We still have cartoons like that today. (http://www.hasbro.com/mylittlepony/en_US/)
Wait, what? No, not by Koreans, and definitely not cheap. Paul Dini and Bruce Timm are responsible for Batman the Animated Series, American animators. And yes, Batman the Animated series had writing that's light-years ahead of Adventure Time or Gumball. They had well defined characters with real emotions. They had established storyline and timelines. They had ongoing storyarcs. Many of them written by big-time comic writers like Steve Englehart, Len Wein, and Neal Adams. So good that it won multiple awards year after year after year. I simply can't believe that a cartoon that single handedly changed the landscape of American animation can be called "cheap" and honestly compared to Adventure Time or Gumball.
Let's also touch on the Disney and Warner Bros. thing. Why in the heck would they not be part of this discussion? They've been making those for that entire 70 years, not JUST 70 years ago. And a whole heck of a lot more episodes have been produced for T.V. than it has for those theater shorts.
More than all that, though. The cartoons back then were written so both kids and adults could enjoy them. Nowadays, that isn't the case with most cartoons. Most cartoons are aimed directly at kids, and kids only.
BTW, He-Man was a comic book first. It wasn't made from the toys. DC Comics - 1983
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Post by: byron on December 22, 2014, 06:24:45 pm
Paul Dini and Bruce Timm did not animate Batman. Like all American cartoon shows now and then, it was written by Americans but the animation was outsourced to several different Asian animation studios to keep costs down. Adventure time (in the early seasons) had a well-defined mythos, with story arcs and character development. Derek Drymon is an extremely talented and creative person, no less than Paul Dini. Batman and Adventure Time are subjectively different. You can't compare them based on subject matter or perceived quality, but by objective measures they are much the same.
Disney and Warner Bros. are part of the discussion, Looney Tunes and Silly Symphonies are not. Nothing WB and Disney made for TV is any better than most other TV cartoons.
I watched an episode of Wander Over Yonder yesterday that referenced both Le Petit Prince and a Motown song from the 60's. Cartoons are written by adults, and they will always have jokes and references for adults.
He-Man is Bratz for boys.
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Post by: turf on December 22, 2014, 07:56:09 pm
Paul Dini and Bruce Timm did not animate Batman. Like all American cartoon shows now and then, it was written by Americans but the animation was outsourced to several different Asian animation studios to keep costs down. Adventure time (in the early seasons) had a well-defined mythos, with story arcs and character development. Derek Drymon is an extremely talented and creative person, no less than Paul Dini. Batman and Adventure Time are subjectively different. You can't compare them based on subject matter or perceived quality, but by objective measures they are much the same.
Disney and Warner Bros. are part of the discussion, Looney Tunes and Silly Symphonies are not. Nothing WB and Disney made for TV is any better than most other TV cartoons.
I watched an episode of Wander Over Yonder yesterday that referenced both Le Petit Prince and a Motown song from the 60's. Cartoons are written by adults, and they will always have jokes and references for adults.
He-Man is Bratz for boys.
#1. Why can't I judge cartoons on subject matter or perceived value? Because you say so? Because it pokes a hole in your cartoon theory?
#2. Same reasoning exists with Looney Tunes. Why can't I compare them? Because you say it's not part of the discussion?
I will always take an episode of Batman, Rocko's Modern Life, or Looney Tunes over the standard Cartoon Network/Nickelodeon fair kids get nowadays. I still follow cartoons, but they don't bring the same level of entertainment value they once did. They're now made for kids with ridiculously short attention-spans (which isn't their fault, it's more of a fault of the way our entire society is heading). Perfect modern example is when Young Justice, a cartoon that is highly-praised by the actual comic fans, gets yanked and is replaced with the return of the spazz-filled Teen Titans.
And please, Adventure Time's "well-defined mythos". Funniest thing I've heard in a while.
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Post by: dashv on December 22, 2014, 08:28:12 pm
It's okay Turf. He obviously never saw the movie or the multiple academy awards it received.
lol. Just watched that masterpiece the other night. Someone told me it was originally pitched as a New Gods movie so I had to rewatch it and try to point out the New Gods stuff.
It's cheesy. But the guy that played Skeletor did a great job and seemed out of place.
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Post by: byron on December 22, 2014, 10:22:25 pm
#1. I didn't say judge, I said compare. You can judge based on perceived quality all you want, but comparing things based on that metric is meaningless to anyone but yourself. The whole point here is that you can't measure artistic quality. The only way to factually compare two things is by attributes which can be measured, and by measurable attributes TV cartoons have been the same for a very long time.
#2. Looney Tunes are not TV cartoons. Apples and oranges and all that.
Cartoons don't bring you the same level of entertainment value they once did because your opinions changed, and cartoons did nothing to change them. I like Rocko better than any current cartoon, but that's just, like, my opinion, man. It's not evidence of a fundamental change in the way cartoons are made, or a reflection on society or anything so profound. It just means I grew up and got nostalgic and I don't look at cartoons the same way.
I get a sense of snobbery from your post. Like, your opinion is worth something because you're an "actual comic fan", or that looking down on Adventure Time makes you more sophisticated. Hating stuff doesn't make you better than other people, and other people aren't worthy of derision because they like what you don't like. (http://archive.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1369/79/1369791740277.jpg) De gustibus non est disputandum. Or in the words of noted philosopher Patrick Star: "Take it easy, it's just a drawing."
#1. I didn't say judge, I said compare. You can judge based on perceived quality all you want, but comparing things based on that metric is meaningless to anyone but yourself. The whole point here is that you can't measure artistic quality. The only way to factually compare two things is by attributes which can be measured, and by measurable attributes TV cartoons have been the same for a very long time.
#2. Looney Tunes are not TV cartoons. Apples and oranges and all that.
Cartoons don't bring you the same level of entertainment value they once did because your opinions changed, and cartoons did nothing to change them. I like Rocko better than any current cartoon, but that's just, like, my opinion, man. It's not evidence of a fundamental change in the way cartoons are made, or a reflection on society or anything so profound. It just means I grew up and got nostalgic and I don't look at cartoons the same way.
I get a sense of snobbery from your post. Like, your opinion is worth something because you're an "actual comic fan", or that looking down on Adventure Time makes you more sophisticated. Hating stuff doesn't make you better than other people, and other people aren't worthy of derision because they like what you don't like. (http://archive.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1369/79/1369791740277.jpg) De gustibus non est disputandum. Or in the words of noted philosopher Patrick Star: "Take it easy, it's just a drawing."
I never insinuated you were or weren't a comic fan, frankly I have no clue, therefore I never meant it as an insult to you at all. All I was saying is that it was liked by the comic fans, the people that read the books that the cartoon is based off of (and critics like it for that matter, too). The ONLY reason it was pulled was because toys weren't selling, i.e. those same spazzstic kids I was referring to. I also never said I hated Adventure Time. I laughed at the notion that it has a deep mythos. It's "mythos" consists of a lot of geekdom clichés.
I'm not hating on anything. YOU said cartoons are the same now as they were then. I'm saying that's simply not true. Different senses of humor. Different approaches to their storytelling. And definitely different styles of animation. To say their all the same and it's just because we're getting older is a bunch of hogwash. Take any Saturday morning from the 1980s, any one of them, and watch it back-to-back with a modern-day cartoon. The differences are as obvious as night-and-day. Same thing as an episode of Transformers being vastly different than an episode of Johnny Quest from the 60s.
And Looney Tunes are T.V. cartoons. You mentioned the theater shorts from 70 years ago...70 YEARS AGO. They've made way more since then that were intended for T.V. You're trying to present it as if every Looney Tune ever made was intended for theater audiences only when they haven't been that for decades. Looney Tunes are so popular they're ingrained into our culture. They most-definitely count, whether you would like them to or not.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: byron on December 23, 2014, 12:45:41 am
I'm not insulted. I don't think you're trying to insult anyone, I just read it as you feeling as if what you liked was more worthy to exist just because your group liked it, which to me seems conceited. Based on your elaboration, I suppose that's not the case. Still, you can't blame the kids. Entertainment is a business after all.
Whether Adventure Time's internal history is any good or too cliche is irrelevant, point is it's there. The circumstances of the plots depend on a backstory that takes more than a few sentences to relate, and that's a lot for a kid's show.
When I said Looney Tunes, I wasn't referring to the characters. I meant Merrie Melodies; I should have said that to begin with.
You know what I really should have said in the beginning was not that cartoons are no different, but rather that they are no worse. It was not my intention in the beginning to argue that all TV cartoons are indistinguishable, but it seems that by defending that careless word placement I have arrived in that ridiculous position. Cartoons are certainly different now, aesthetically and otherwise. My original assertion was only that the subjective differences don't make them worse or better because artistic quality is imaginary. All this contention probably could have been avoided if I'd made that more clear.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: kr2nist on December 23, 2014, 01:26:06 am
...They're now made for kids with ridiculously short attention-spans (which isn't their fault, it's more of a fault of the way our entire society is heading). Perfect modern example is when Young Justice, a cartoon that is highly-praised by the actual comic fans, gets yanked and is replaced with the return of the spazz-filled Teen Titans...
Speaking of those Teen Titans, that show actually grew on me oddly enough and it was a shame to see it leave the air. However, the new "Teen Titans Go!" series I think is totally unnecessary...just my humble opinion. And I also think Cartoon Network's "Toonami" should revert back to its late-night Saturday night airings again and show those classic "Dragon Ball" and "DragonBall Z" episodes (...and I don't mean the DBZ "Kai" series either...). ;D
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: kr2nist on December 23, 2014, 01:33:15 am
(picture from the internet, mine was yellow) (http://www.motorstown.com/images/opel-manta-berlinetta-02.jpg)
And I miss my Ford Taurus black station wagon. Of course I mainly miss it because I had a custom stereo system in it, and I was the only person in my neighborhood that was crazy enough to put a sweet sound system in a station wagon...
I'll admit to missing my first car also, the Pontiac T-1000. Sure it was a piece of junk, drank gas like water, and a shitty car stereo, but I still loved it. When my parents asked me what did I want my first vehicle to be, I guess I should've been a little more specific in my answer besides just saying I wanted a red car that runs. lol!
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: byron on December 23, 2014, 10:42:07 am
When a friend of mine told me he didn't hate Teen Titans Go!, I thought he was messing with me. But then I watched it and I understood. That show is so stupid, you can't take it seriously enough to hate it. It has nothing to do with its source material, it just stands alone as this monumental, ridiculous thing that is simply beneath judgment. I find it strangely watchable.
I don't miss my first vehicle. A 1966 Chevrolet C-10. May it rest in peace.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: burningdoom on December 23, 2014, 12:12:39 pm
...They're now made for kids with ridiculously short attention-spans (which isn't their fault, it's more of a fault of the way our entire society is heading). Perfect modern example is when Young Justice, a cartoon that is highly-praised by the actual comic fans, gets yanked and is replaced with the return of the spazz-filled Teen Titans...
Speaking of those Teen Titans, that show actually grew on me oddly enough and it was a shame to see it leave the air. However, the new "Teen Titans Go!" series I think is totally unnecessary...just my humble opinion. And I also think Cartoon Network's "Toonami" should revert back to its late-night Saturday night airings again and show those classic "Dragon Ball" and "DragonBall Z" episodes (...and I don't mean the DBZ "Kai" series either...). ;D
They've shown DBZ a 100 times over on Cartoon Network already. I think it's time they moved to something else. I'd love to watch Record of Lodoss War in it's entirety again, for example. Or The Guyver: Bio-Boosted Armor (but that may be a little too violent for T.V.).
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: fazerco on December 23, 2014, 01:01:17 pm
(picture from the internet, mine was yellow) (http://www.motorstown.com/images/opel-manta-berlinetta-02.jpg)
And I miss my Ford Taurus black station wagon. Of course I mainly miss it because I had a custom stereo system in it, and I was the only person in my neighborhood that was crazy enough to put a sweet sound system in a station wagon...
I'll admit to missing my first car also, the Pontiac T-1000. Sure it was a piece of junk, drank gas like water, and a shitty car stereo, but I still loved it. When my parents asked me what did I want my first vehicle to be, I guess I should've been a little more specific in my answer besides just saying I wanted a red car that runs. lol!
The bottem of that car also fell out :o, but it drove me to Germany for a year when i was in the dutch army. And it drove good. Rear wheel drive......loving that.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: dashv on December 23, 2014, 06:18:18 pm
I miss the days when music "artists" didn't have to be auto-tuned to hell and back.
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Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: kr2nist on December 24, 2014, 12:59:12 am
When a friend of mine told me he didn't hate Teen Titans Go!, I thought he was messing with me. But then I watched it and I understood. That show is so stupid, you can't take it seriously enough to hate it. It has nothing to do with its source material, it just stands alone as this monumental, ridiculous thing that is simply beneath judgment. I find it strangely watchable.
Exactly. I may have previously said that the show is unnecessary, but I don't hate it. You said it perfectly how it's the kind of show that you just can't take it seriously to actually hate it. And yes, it truly does stand alone. lol!
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: burningdoom on December 24, 2014, 01:01:19 am
When a friend of mine told me he didn't hate Teen Titans Go!, I thought he was messing with me. But then I watched it and I understood. That show is so stupid, you can't take it seriously enough to hate it. It has nothing to do with its source material, it just stands alone as this monumental, ridiculous thing that is simply beneath judgment. I find it strangely watchable.
Exactly. I may have previously said that the show is unnecessary, but I don't hate it. You said it perfectly how it's the kind of show that you just can't take it seriously to actually hate it. And yes, it truly does stand alone. lol!
I can find a very good reason to hate it. It replaced Young Justice, the best written comic cartoon since Justice League Unlimited; over some stupid toy sales (it had good ratings, but was yanked because the toys in the commercials weren't selling, according to online articles.)
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: kr2nist on December 24, 2014, 01:13:07 am
They've shown DBZ a 100 times over on Cartoon Network already. I think it's time they moved to something else. I'd love to watch Record of Lodoss War in it's entirety again, for example. Or The Guyver: Bio-Boosted Armor (but that may be a little too violent for T.V.).
CN may have shown DBZ more than enough times, but I remember when first discovering the whole "Toonami" thing purely out of accident and DBZ was on. And as luck had it, it was at the very beginning too and I was able to watch it in its entirety. Another one I got into was "Cowboy Bebop".
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: kr2nist on December 24, 2014, 01:22:49 am
I can find a very good reason to hate it. It replaced Young Justice, the best written comic cartoon since Justice League Unlimited; over some stupid toy sales (it had good ratings, but was yanked because the toys in the commercials weren't selling, according to online articles.)
I actually watched a couple of episodes of Young Justice and thought it was really decent. I was wondering why CN wasn't showing the Young Justice commercials anymore....had no idea that TT Go! had taken its place.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: kr2nist on December 24, 2014, 01:25:53 am
I miss the days when music "artists" didn't have to be auto-tuned to hell and back.
I couldn't have said that any better myself, Dash!
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: tripredacus on December 24, 2014, 11:12:52 am
One thing that we can never get back is... 90s internet. Sites do not exist anymore, services no longer work. It is impossible now to relive the days of playing around in Prodigy or AOL's service. Oh well. :(
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: byron on December 24, 2014, 12:02:55 pm
One thing that we can never get back is... 90s internet. Sites do not exist anymore, services no longer work. It is impossible now to relive the days of playing around in Prodigy or AOL's service. Oh well. :(
Try the waybackmachine ;D http://archive.org/web/ (http://archive.org/web/)
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: tripredacus on December 28, 2014, 11:43:22 am
One thing that we can never get back is... 90s internet. Sites do not exist anymore, services no longer work. It is impossible now to relive the days of playing around in Prodigy or AOL's service. Oh well. :(
Try the waybackmachine ;D http://archive.org/web/ (http://archive.org/web/)
I know about the wayback machine. It isn't the same.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: fazerco on December 28, 2014, 03:25:58 pm
Yeah, i know. The waiting on pics to load with a phone connection gave me some time to do some darts practicing ;D.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: tripredacus on December 29, 2014, 03:04:06 pm
Yeah, i know. The waiting on pics to load with a phone connection gave me some time to do some darts practicing ;D.
No that's not what I mean. Wayback only has archives websites and it does not cover services that were in place then.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: betelgeuse on February 10, 2015, 10:28:21 pm
I miss the arcades with games other than interactive ones (shooting, racing, DDR etc.). Dave and Busters is OK, but the majority of the place is machines that spit out tickets. It's been a very long time since I had to stick a quarter on the machine to claim next game (also doesn't work at D&B since you have a preloaded game card :-\ ).
I agree with many others here too about the weirdness of going to a friends house to hang out. Seams like you need to make an appointment these days for anything. I guess this goes right along with the always connected environment we live in now. Didn't you see my call? Why didn't you text me back sooner? Or the immediate phone call if you don't accept a chat request while playing a game online.
Title: Re: Things you miss, but can't get back
Post by: gf78 on February 27, 2015, 12:37:09 pm
Geez...where to start.
I miss the feelings (not physical) of that first time. When the realization dawns on you that you are actually going to have sex. What a magical moment that was!
I miss going to the arcades. The sensory overload of it. All these machines, making whatever noises/sounds that particular game made. The air hockey tables and pool tables. That smell...like when you walk into a carpet store and you smell all the fresh, rolled carpet. Not a particularly pleasant smell, but not bad. A newness to it. It was part of the arcade experience.
Actually going to a friends house (or them coming over) and playing a game all night. Fond memories of my Bud Shane and me playing Castlevania III all night till we beat it.
Being a kid, out all day till dark riding bikes, playing hockey, etc. with your friends with no worries that some molester is going to abduct you. Mom & dad didn't have to worry. There were no cell phones and video games were something you did when the weather sucked because back then, you would rather be outside all day doing stuff.
The smell of pine sap on your hands when you and your buds have been climbing in the pine trees.
My mom's side of the family is Italian and we always had these big, family get-togethers on the holidays. Being young, I didn't appreciate it so much at that time, but the whole family would get together. Aunts, uncles, grandparents, great grandparents, cousins...the older men would be drinking and get to arguing about something. They inevitably ended up swearing at each other in Italian which I had no clue what they were saying. My wife died in a car accident way too young. My grandparents and great grandparents are gone. One of my uncles passed away. My cousins live in Pennsylvania and one of my uncle's got divorced and I haven't seen my aunt (by marriage) in nearly 15 years. Yeah...I would give anything to have that back.