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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: gf78 on February 26, 2015, 12:05:22 pm
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There are those times in life when you feel embarrassed or ashamed because of something. It could be an old song coming on the radio like Foreigner's Jukebox Hero, where you are digging it and suddenly become self conscious and look around to see if anyone hears you listening to it. Or maybe watching a hokey movie that you wouldn't want anyone to know you enjoy. But what about game shame?
For me, the most shame I ever felt for being a gamer was the midnight launch for Halo 2. I was at the South County Mall in St. Louis, MO because that was the closet gaming store to where I live at that time....sixty miles from home. Everything was pretty cool, there was this long, long line all the way down to the Sears at the end of the mall. I was pretty close to the front, probably about the 20th guy in line at EB Games. The game went on sale. The first guy in the line walks out of the store. Well, I should say shambles. He was this huge, grotesque looking person with a neckbeard wearing some black t-shirt that was several sizes too small. His pimply, hairy belly hung low as his shirt could not contain it and his sweat pants couldn't rise high enough. His hair was matted, greasy and he had a significant amount of acne. He smelled of BO and dirty laundry. You know, that wet, nasty mop smell? And as he exited the store, he looked around, pulled Halo 2 from the bag, held it high in both hands like He-Man raising his sword and bellowed "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" And at that moment, I felt great shame.
It's not that the guy was big or that he was enthusiastic about his new game. We were all there at midnight because we were enthusiastic. It's because this guy is the poster child for every bad stereotype of gamers.
So what do you all think?
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I've really never had that moment but damn do I agree there are a select few that bring the name of what people think of gamers WAYYYY down. It sucks that the stereotypes exist when they're so far from the truth.
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Haha, awesome story OP! Myself, on dates, pending on the woman, I might not mention my collection till a few dates later haha.
Don't want her to think i am a 'nerd" or "weird" cause i own a bunch of games and systems
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It's nothing new to me. I'm in my 30s and I have plenty of people that have that "grow up already" mentality towards me; not only because I'm an avid gamer, but also because I still collect comics and watch pro-wrestling.
Funny thing is, I'm not having all these stress-related issues that they are and I'm generally a happier, and less bitchy person than a lot of those people. So why would I want to be more like them?
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It's nothing new to me. I'm in my 30s and I have plenty of people that have that "grow up already" mentality towards me; not only because I'm an avid gamer, but also because I still collect comics and watch pro-wrestling.
Funny thing is, I'm not having all these stress-related issues that they are and I'm generally a happier, and less bitchy person than a lot of those people. So why would I want to be more like them?
I know exactly what you are talking about. Anytime something gets mentioned around my parents, they say the same crap about "When are you going to stop playing with toys?" meaning the video games. I'm 40 now. ::) I told my mom I'll stop playing when my arthritis gets so bad I can't hold a controller anymore...but by then they will have a little thing you slip on your head to control the games so it's all good! :P
And to me, aside from the fun I have playing games and collecting "geeky" stuff, the stories in games can be as gripping as any that you see on television or the movies.
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Totally know what you mean with the stereotype, the town I used to live in had a lot of good gaming stores but since then I've moved to a different town a little more south which is known to be more conservative, very nice people, but the mentality is different and I don't talk about it as much as I used to.
Another stereotype too down here, one of the game stores I went to has a relatively attractive female employee, but their game selection is horrible and overpriced but guys shop there because of her and are constantly hitting on her and it's a shame to see and then they complain that she's a bitch and it's really sad I don't blame her. But that stereotype is still there and really unfortunate
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As a girl, I feel like it happens a little less often, though it does happen. If anything, I try to wear it like a badge, but I'm usually most sheepish about it when I talk about it with someone who might not know what I'm talking about.
There's always that initial fear when you're talking to someone and they find out that you are a "gamer" or like video games. They usually ask what you play, and there're two options: (1) specifically name what you're currently playing or like to play or (2) generalize to a point so that you don't "scare" them away or make the other person feel weird because you're talking in a foreign language.
Otherwise I can't really recall a time when I've been "ashamed" about being a gamer... most of the time it's been a shyness/slight embarrassment at mentioning something that others might consider a "kids' hobby." Otherwise, I've always been proud to be a gamer :)
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Oh, I did think of some occasions, actually. I like knowing that there are other girls like me who love games, but I hate when I see girls use it to boost some weird fetish they're trying to peddle. I know guys love girly parts and all ::) but I kinda hate seeing girls who play video games while aiming webcams down their shirts. It makes me worried that people will assume I'm the same sort of girl when I tell them that I play games and stream sometimes. They're giving girl gamers a bad reputation and encouraging immature behavior from their viewers.
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Most of high school was like that for me. Gaming was still generally seen as something for kids since most of my classmates got the NES in 5th grade when it came out.
One of my coworkers recently teased me about reading comics, but then he goes and sees all the Hulk, Avengers, Captain America, Iron Man and Batman movies!
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As a girl, I feel like it happens a little less often, though it does happen. If anything, I try to wear it like a badge, but I'm usually most sheepish about it when I talk about it with someone who might not know what I'm talking about.
There's always that initial fear when you're talking to someone and they find out that you are a "gamer" or like video games. They usually ask what you play, and there're two options: (1) specifically name what you're currently playing or like to play or (2) generalize to a point so that you don't "scare" them away or make the other person feel weird because you're talking in a foreign language.
Otherwise I can't really recall a time when I've been "ashamed" about being a gamer... most of the time it's been a shyness/slight embarrassment at mentioning something that others might consider a "kids' hobby." Otherwise, I've always been proud to be a gamer :)
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Oh, I did think of some occasions, actually. I like knowing that there are other girls like me who love games, but I hate when I see girls use it to boost some weird fetish they're trying to peddle. I know guys love girly parts and all ::) but I kinda hate seeing girls who play video games while aiming webcams down their shirts. It makes me worried that people will assume I'm the same sort of girl when I tell them that I play games and stream sometimes. They're giving girl gamers a bad reputation and encouraging immature behavior from their viewers.
I don't really follow game streams at all, but that's pretty F'd up that girls are doing that webcam crap. I believe that as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, a person should be allowed to live their life and do as they please. It doesn't affect me. But the girls aiming webcams down their shirts is stupid and it does make people have assumptions.
I've never been embarrassed about gaming. I've done it since I was a wee lad of about 4, when I was old enough to pick up that Atari joystick and maneuver an on-screen "thing." My wife doesn't like games, but she doesn't really bother me too much about it unless I bury myself into a game for hours upon hours for days upon days on end. My first wife Serenity (RIP) was a pretty avid gamer. She loved Voodoo Vince and Crash Team Racing the most. I remember the two of us lying side by side on the bed playing CTR. If she was losing, she would wait until we were near the finish line on the last lap and she's shoulder check me to try and distract me. Cheater!
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Most of high school was like that for me. Gaming was still generally seen as something for kids since most of my classmates got the NES in 5th grade when it came out.
One of my coworkers recently teased me about reading comics, but then he goes and sees all the Hulk, Avengers, Captain America, Iron Man and Batman movies!
Tell that fanboy to come out of the closet!
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Tell that fanboy to come out of the closet!
;D He's still single, so he probably thinks he has to put up a front.
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Tell that fanboy to come out of the closet!
;D He's still single, so he probably thinks he has to put up a front.
LOL...gotta be macho. ::) I was an avid comic book fan and collector from about 1981 to 2009 or so. The comic that stuck with me the most as a young man was Uncanny X-Men #169. First X-Men comic I ever read. It was (for those that don't know) about Calisto kidnapping Angel because she was in love with him. Storm, Nightcrawler and Colossus attempt a rescue, only to be overpowered by the Morlocks. I was left hanging as it wasn't until about 1995 when I finally found a comic store with issue #170. >:(
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I'm never embarrassed to be a ga(y)mer. I'm out and proud in more ways than one, and my gaming is another badge I wear with pride. When people have the audacity to say to me, "Video games are a waste of time" I usually give one of two answers. The first one is along the lines of me asking them what they do for fun. They always mention some form of media like TV, movies, books, comics, etc. I say what I do is no different and they have their "a-ha" moment and then apologize.
The other is, "Well, I think you're a waste of life." That's usually saved for people I don't care for very much. They don't know what to say after that.
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"Did you ever have "that moment" when you were ashamed to be a gamer?"
NEVER! I'm proud to be a gamer!
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I've had some doubts as I sit in my room with action figures and perler beads I've made and my growing game collection, having those thoughts that get put there by society or family or whatever, where you hit an age and you must abandon this kind of stuff, but I've never agreed with that. There's no reason to go "Well I'm an adult now, I can only enjoy the outdoors, sports, working on cars, and going to the bar or whatever is considered the "normal" thing. I love games, I love anime, I love movies, I love cosplay, I love the fantasy elements of it all. It's fun, it's imaginative, and I wouldn't give it up for much of anything. To do so would be to basically live a life of boredom. I don't even know what I'd replace this all with lol
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While I am definitely no ashamed to be a gamer nor have I ever been, it is something I typically only reveal to people I am close to and trust. Despite shows like Big Bang Theory and the whole "it's cool to be a nerd" trend, there is a huge stigma toward true nerds still. If I mention my love of video games or anime to a coworker I usually get this look like, "okay freak" from them. I think a lot of people assume nothing is wrong with you if you like video games when you're older than 25. However, unlike a lot of people over 25 I've met I feel like I'm actually an interesting person. Too many people become their mortgage, their boring job, their subscription to a news paper and lose sight of everything that made them an interesting, fun person. I will never become one of these people even if I have to take on adult responsibilities. I'm not going to be a walking corpse by the time I'm 35, I will always game, I will always watch anime, and will always live life as i see fit despite society's opinion of me.
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Personally, no.
Well, does being embarrassed because of other people count?
And I technically nerd out whenever I see something I like, but I tend to keep it on the down low anyway.
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I'm never embarrassed to be a ga(y)mer. I'm out and proud in more ways than one, and my gaming is another badge I wear with pride. When people have the audacity to say to me, "Video games are a waste of time" I usually give one of two answers. The first one is along the lines of me asking them what they do for fun. They always mention some form of media like TV, movies, books, comics, etc. I say what I do is no different and they have their "a-ha" moment and then apologize.
The other is, "Well, I think you're a waste of life." That's usually saved for people I don't care for very much. They don't know what to say after that.
Ah yes, one of my peeves. xP
Unfortunately, our society hasn't 'evolved' to the point yet where we (generally) think of gaming as not only a playful medium, but an academic one as well. I'm taking a course about ethics and game design here at college, and I firmly believe that video games can be sold as educational, academic materials, right there beside movies, comic books, and "fine" literature. But don't get me started on that, or I'll start to rant. xD
I feel like that is when being a gamer is somewhat 'embarrassing.' I was talking to one of my Professors today, and the issue mentioned above came up. Even though He's a great Professor, and I know He was listening intently to what I had to say... it still felt somewhat embarrassing.
But it means so much when an older adult listens to what I have to say about games, and takes the subject as seriously as I do. I played some music on the piano for another one of my Professors, who hummed along, and quickly asked if they could have a copy of the sheet music. It means a lot to me when someone that much older than myself doesn't scoff when I tell them it's 'video game music.' It sounds kind of silly, but to know that games are taken seriously by other people, especially those of another, older generation, makes me happy. I very much hope that games will become a part of meaningful academic discussion within my lifetime, and that the stereotypical views we see now will change, as well. ^.^
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Multiple times throughout my life, my parents have 'had a go at me' and will often target me playing video games too much. As of recently I've caught onto the fact that while they're saying these things, they go back to sitting on the sofa watching TV, using there smartphones and Kindle.
In the end, every time the subject of "Video games are bad for you" comes up. It just makes me so much more passionate to stand by the community firmly.
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Multiple times throughout my life, my parents have 'had a go at me' and will often target me playing video games too much. As of recently I've caught onto the fact that while they're saying these things, they go back to sitting on the sofa watching TV, using there smartphones and Kindle.
In the end, every time the subject of "Video games are bad for you" comes up. It just makes me so much more passionate to stand by the community firmly.
I hate the "violent video games make people go out and kill people"
And I am like...really? Come on now.
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Personally, no.
Well, does being embarrassed because of other people count?
And I technically nerd out whenever I see something I like, but I tend to keep it on the down low anyway.
That is exactly what I am talking about. I don't care who knows I am a gamer. I wouldn't say I'm particularly proud of it, but it's what I like and I don't care who knows that.
With that being said, the example I gave is one of those moments when you look around and/or hide your face because other people make you look bad.
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Never ashamed to be a gamer...However I did use want to come over to my house as a pick up line on my current GF, and we have been together for 8 years now.
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Multiple times throughout my life, my parents have 'had a go at me' and will often target me playing video games too much. As of recently I've caught onto the fact that while they're saying these things, they go back to sitting on the sofa watching TV, using there smartphones and Kindle.
In the end, every time the subject of "Video games are bad for you" comes up. It just makes me so much more passionate to stand by the community firmly.
I hate the "violent video games make people go out and kill people"
And I am like...really? Come on now.
Ah...I remember vividly in the aftermath of the Columbine shootings, the news reporter stating "The boys were both big fans of Marilyn Manson and learned to hone their shooting skills in the popular shooter Doom."
Really? REALLY??? I don't know about anyone else, but hitting cursor keys and a spacebar on my keyboard never did anything to improve my shooting skills. Nor did listening to Marilyn Manson-who I've been listening to since Portrait of an American Family came out-make me want to kill or commit suicide.
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Not ashamed to play video games. It doesn't define my life either though. I do have one room of my house devoted to systems and games so when people come over and take a tour of the place I can tell they are a little shocked if they see my office.
My life is about so many other things though that games are just my hobby and what I do with my downtime.
I have never been ashamed of other gamers (even the one you posted about in the original post). I kind of feel sad for that person because it sounds like they just need some help getting their weight in check or something of that nature. Not everyone even understands fashion sense or knows they smell to other people. Makes me want to go hug the guy and let him know he is loved as a fellow gamer and see if I can help him get cleaned up.
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Multiple times throughout my life, my parents have 'had a go at me' and will often target me playing video games too much. As of recently I've caught onto the fact that while they're saying these things, they go back to sitting on the sofa watching TV, using there smartphones and Kindle.
In the end, every time the subject of "Video games are bad for you" comes up. It just makes me so much more passionate to stand by the community firmly.
I hate the "violent video games make people go out and kill people"
And I am like...really? Come on now.
Ah...I remember vividly in the aftermath of the Columbine shootings, the news reporter stating "The boys were both big fans of Marilyn Manson and learned to hone their shooting skills in the popular shooter Doom."
Really? REALLY??? I don't know about anyone else, but hitting cursor keys and a spacebar on my keyboard never did anything to improve my shooting skills. Nor did listening to Marilyn Manson-who I've been listening to since Portrait of an American Family came out-make me want to kill or commit suicide.
I own plenty of guns, and i dont care how much gaming you do, you wont learn to shoot that way lol.
A story from my gun forum I remember. One of the guys took his nephew to the range to go shooting. And nephew grabbed his AR and started to shoot the target and he look confused. So the uncle(member of the forum) asked him whats wrong, and his nephew told him "i dont get why i am missing, i am really good on COD" and he said he nearly took him home after that haha
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Multiple times throughout my life, my parents have 'had a go at me' and will often target me playing video games too much. As of recently I've caught onto the fact that while they're saying these things, they go back to sitting on the sofa watching TV, using there smartphones and Kindle.
In the end, every time the subject of "Video games are bad for you" comes up. It just makes me so much more passionate to stand by the community firmly.
I hate the "violent video games make people go out and kill people"
And I am like...really? Come on now.
Ah...I remember vividly in the aftermath of the Columbine shootings, the news reporter stating "The boys were both big fans of Marilyn Manson and learned to hone their shooting skills in the popular shooter Doom."
Really? REALLY??? I don't know about anyone else, but hitting cursor keys and a spacebar on my keyboard never did anything to improve my shooting skills. Nor did listening to Marilyn Manson-who I've been listening to since Portrait of an American Family came out-make me want to kill or commit suicide.
I own plenty of guns, and i dont care how much gaming you do, you wont learn to shoot that way lol.
A story from my gun forum I remember. One of the guys took his nephew to the range to go shooting. And nephew grabbed his AR and started to shoot the target and he look confused. So the uncle(member of the forum) asked him whats wrong, and his nephew told him "i dont get why i am missing, i am really good on COD" and he said he nearly took him home after that haha
LOL. Love my AR! Society always wants to pin the blame on what they can't explain. They have to justify it in their minds to rationalize it. And the media is quick to hype up the nonsense.
And I can say without a shred of doubt in my mind...maneuvering two little joysticks and hitting "R2" is nothing like aiming down the sights of a real gun and pulling the trigger.
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I refuse to feel ashamed for doing something I enjoy, but sometimes the stereotype of the lonely, moms basement dwelling, cheet-o stained video game guy gets a little annoying. I have a few friends who all still play video games and we are all in our 30's. None of us fit that stereotype.
I have a college degree, live in a great town, have a good job, and have plenty of other hobbies to "waste" my time with. I have been told by others that it is in fact a waste of time and a childish thing to be doing at my age. I brush it off, I am a very happy person who happens to play some video games on the weekends.
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I get the occasional eyeroll or comment, and dealt with a lot of bullying over being a geek when I was a kid, but I never personally any feel shame about it. I like what I like, and don't really have any patience or interest in changing myself to make other people more comfortable.
The only place it's maybe an obstacle is with dating - it's difficult enough to meet people in your 30s, but even moreso when you're a relatively introverted person with geeky, niche interests.
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I'm really glad at a lot of the responses I've been reading in this post. Personally gaming has been a huge deal of stress and being ashamed of in my life. I played sports my whole life until I graduated high school and whenever kids from the team would come over and I had games with dragons and magic instead of sports, racing, and shooting they all immediately thought I was a weirdo and when you're around guys all the time and they get something on you you'll never hear the end of it. Right now I still live at home while I'm going to college and at least once I week I get lectured by someone in my family about how I should be selling all the games I find so I can pay off my car and pay off college and it's really frustrating because they say that and then will go out to a restaurant and pay 40 bucks for a steak or go to a concert for 100 and I'm the one who's constantly told I'm wasting money and shouldn't keep as much as I do. So between my friends judging me and family lecturing me I'm constantly reminded that I shouldn't collect all this stuff, but honestly the amount of happiness I get from video games and different toys and movies and what not is greater than not being weird to people so eff them right :)
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I'm really glad at a lot of the responses I've been reading in this post. Personally gaming has been a huge deal of stress and being ashamed of in my life. I played sports my whole life until I graduated high school and whenever kids from the team would come over and I had games with dragons and magic instead of sports, racing, and shooting they all immediately thought I was a weirdo and when you're around guys all the time and they get something on you you'll never hear the end of it. Right now I still live at home while I'm going to college and at least once I week I get lectured by someone in my family about how I should be selling all the games I find so I can pay off my car and pay off college and it's really frustrating because they say that and then will go out to a restaurant and pay 40 bucks for a steak or go to a concert for 100 and I'm the one who's constantly told I'm wasting money and shouldn't keep as much as I do. So between my friends judging me and family lecturing me I'm constantly reminded that I shouldn't collect all this stuff, but honestly the amount of happiness I get from video games and different toys and movies and what not is greater than not being weird to people so eff them right :)
I'm happy this thread and the responses gives you some comfort. The shame for me was as I stated, when unkempt ogres like the guy at the Halo 2 launch makes everyone look bad, like we are like that. I would never be ashamed of enjoying a hobby/borderline obsession. It's no different than buying movies or CD's or whatever.
My parents (mom especially) has harped on me my entire adult life about how I should "sell that crap" and stop playing with "toys" which is what she refers to videogames as. But I love them and would never entertain that thought. Hell, I love toys. Though I am not buying Amiibo's, I saw the Mega Man one at Gamestop yesterday and admired it. It's pretty damn cool looking. I used to collect toys. I had every single Kaiyodo Neon Genesis Evangelion figure including all color variants at one point. They are works of art.
I would never tell anyone they should/shouldn't play any genre of gaming. For me, videogames allow me to go places I never could in real life. It's escapism and entertainment. If not for games like Driveclub, I would never be behind the wheel of a Ferrari. Games like Halo and Destiny among others allow me to be this hero with superpowers. Just a few little examples, but they are like your favorite movies with the bonus you get to be a part of them.
Different things make different people happy. This world and our society has always tried to make people conform to a certain mold. It's what's expected. When I was very young (it stopped being a big thing in the 70's), everyone tried to get lefties to write right handed because that was the "norm." People have been hounded and told they were corrupt, sick and morally bankrupt for being gay even though that is who they are. But society tried for the longest time (and in many ways still does) to make them conform and be ashamed of who they are. And though the whole "grow up and stop playing games" issue is a much less significant one than the examples I listed, it's still a way of trying to force people to conform to someone else's idea of what you should or should not be doing.
How many of those kids from your team that thought you were a "weirdo" were just acting that way and saying things because they didn't want to be seen as a weirdo? I bet at least a few of them had some Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy style games but just kept their mouths shut for fear of being judged.
My parents keep talking the same crap about how I need to be more responsible and stop playing with my "toys" but what the hell is the point of working for a living if I'm not going to enjoy myself on the way? So I can die with a bank full of money? Life is short. Too short. It can end at any time as I've found out the hard way. And if you take nothing else from that, it should be to live your life and enjoy it as much as you possibly can because you never know when it will end. ;)
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I, too, am happy that this thread is helping folks out!
Insektmute, don't let the dating scene get you down. I had a hard time finding people in my area who shared the same gaming interests (without me going out and working in the gaming industry), but I eventually found some awesome people through this site and Twitch, and now I live with someone who shares a whole bunch of interests with me (he moved from Colorado).
I've always loved that the folks on this site are so open about their love of the hobby, and I've talked to many people of all backgrounds/ages who love gaming and are way nerdier than me, ha. The fact that they show no shame about it makes me really happy.
It's unfortunate that the people we see IRL often don't share that enthusiasm, but that's what makes the internet great sometimes.
bloodybaron and gf78, I just wanted to say that you should hold on to what you love and don't let anyone stop you from doing what you love. You're going to always run into folks who disparage your hobby but remember that there are plenty of people who will embrace you and share your same interests. I think things get better as we get older, too :)
I kind of compare it to how embarrassed I was about the state of my teeth when I was younger. When I graduated high school and moved on, I found that it really wasn't an issue. All the pain the other students gave me.. it all disappeared once I left high school and was among other adults. I realized that it was all petty drama and letting that stuff get to me would be a sign of weakness. No one outside of school gave a damn ultimately. So I was able to stop worrying about it and move on and continue to "grow up."
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I'm usually ashamed of being a gamer when women are sent rape and death threats for the terrible crime of being women and daring to have an opinion. Frankly, I would prefer to see more women playing video games.
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I'm usually ashamed of being a gamer when women are sent rape and death threats for the terrible crime of being women and daring to have an opinion. Frankly, I would prefer to see more women playing video games.
^^ I thought about bringing this up, too, but honestly I was afraid of bringing it up too much for fear that we'd attract the wrong people to this forum :'(
It's embarrassing to think that games that do happen to feature strong female characters are now pushed into being condemned for pushing some weird agenda and can't possibly be of quality.
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There is nothing to be ashamed of. Honestly, I bet the people who always tease gamers/geeks in general deep down wish they were free and open to do what they wanted instead of trying to fit into the public "norm".
I used to feel weird that a guy like myself (pierced, tattooed, harley rider, etc) listened to Celine Dion. But FTW. :)
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I'm usually ashamed of being a gamer when women are sent rape and death threats for the terrible crime of being women and daring to have an opinion. Frankly, I would prefer to see more women playing video games.
I didn't get too much into the details of this story. But I thought she was sent those threats because she gave sexual favors for positive game reviews.
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I'm usually ashamed of being a gamer when women are sent rape and death threats for the terrible crime of being women and daring to have an opinion. Frankly, I would prefer to see more women playing video games.
I didn't get too much into the details of this story. But I thought she was sent those threats because she gave sexual favors for positive game reviews.
I'm not going to get into whether or not those claims are true, but most upsetting is the aftermath of that controversy. There have been many other women and games that have suffered since.
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We're not here to discuss Voldemortgate.
I hate to be that guy, but please do not turn this into a discussion about that.
And yes, I am using that name on purpose, because I do not want this forum to become a magnet for THAT.
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We're not here to discuss Voldemortgate.
I hate to be that guy, but please do not turn this into a discussion about that.
And yes, I am using that name on purpose, because I do not want this forum to become a magnet for THAT.
I agree. I chose not to use any names for that reason as well. But thanks for stepping in to confirm, Foxhack.
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Never been ashamed to be a gamer/collector. I've been doing it for 23 years and all my family and friends are fine with it. I don't get bullied, women don't giggle and run, co-workers don't berate me. It's a hobby and that's how I explain it and as such, I don't make it a huge part of my life. It has it's place and it should never overshadow other aspects of your life. If I ever did this and it was pointed out to me, then I'd feel some shame but it hasn't happened.
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I can't say I've ever felt "ashamed" of being a gamer, more like felt stupid some times.
Like waiting 6 hours outside a Target in the freezing cold to get a New 3DS XL Majora's Mask Edition and having the cops called on you and have them laugh at you. lol
Going out in a Snowstorm at 6am to wait outside a Target to get a Rosalina Amiibo.
Waiting over night outside a Toy R Us to get a PS3 at launch, then they become common afterwards. lol
Buying a game you think is a good deal (before smart phones or don't have it on me) til you look it up later and see it goes for cheaper online. lol
And most often, Buying a game you swear you don't have then find out you do own it once you get home.
This happens to me the most when I forget my smart phone or can't get a signal (some Sales are in the middle of nowhere) and can't use VGCollect's app. This happens the most with games on multi-platforms, I know I've played the game but I'll think it was on Xbox then find out I own the Xbox version but missing the PS2 version. :P
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I can't say I've ever felt "ashamed" of being a gamer, more like felt stupid some times.
Like waiting 6 hours outside a Target in the freezing cold to get a New 3DS XL Majora's Mask Edition and having the cops called on you and have them laugh at you. lol
Going out in a Snowstorm at 6am to wait outside a Target to get a Rosalina Amiibo.
Waiting over night outside a Toy R Us to get a PS3 at launch, then they become common afterwards. lol
Buying a game you think is a good deal (before smart phones or don't have it on me) til you look it up later and see it goes for cheaper online. lol
And most often, Buying a game you swear you don't have then find out you do own it once you get home.
This happens to me the most when I forget my smart phone or can't get a signal (some Sales are in the middle of nowhere) and can't use VGCollect's app. This happens the most with games on multi-platforms, I know I've played the game but I'll think it was on Xbox then find out I own the Xbox version but missing the PS2 version. :P
Were you the only one in line at Target when the cops got called on you?
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We're not here to discuss Voldemortgate.
I hate to be that guy, but please do not turn this into a discussion about that.
And yes, I am using that name on purpose, because I do not want this forum to become a magnet for THAT.
I would agree. When my gun forum brought it up. I told them to shut down the thread. We don't need a bunch of stupid crap happening because of it.
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I personally don't understand waiting for hours or camping overnight or going out in bad/dangerous weather for a video game (or a movie, or a concert, or Black Friday etc). I'm also one to not wait in a line 12 cars deep, idling for a half hour to get gas because it's going up 10 cents that night. People used to wait in bread lines for food because they were starving and couldn't afford anything, it just seems dumb to voluntarily do the same thing a few decades later for something as immaterial as a video game.
It seems to be a societal thing that transcends just video games so I'm sorry if this insults some people because I am a big gamer and collector but even I don't understand it.
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I used to feel silly, childish, immature etc. at work and church. Until I realised how sad all the people sound who talk about how they are too busy for that kind of thing.
By sad I mean I pity them. They fill their lives with so much stuff they seriously have no time for pure recreation?
I still get moments where I feel those things. Then I remind myself it's ok to do something just for me. That's relaxing or stress relieving.
I'm many things. Gamer is just one of them. I wear the badge with honor!
Balance, not an endless todo list, is the key to a happy life.
The More You Know...
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I personally don't understand waiting for hours or camping overnight or going out in bad/dangerous weather for a video game (or a movie, or a concert, or Black Friday etc). I'm also one to not wait in a line 12 cars deep, idling for a half hour to get gas because it's going up 10 cents that night. People used to wait in bread lines for food because they were starving and couldn't afford anything, it just seems dumb to voluntarily do the same thing a few decades later for something as immaterial as a video game.
It seems to be a societal thing that transcends just video games so I'm sorry if this insults some people because I am a big gamer and collector but even I don't understand it.
On launch night for PS4. I had a friend ask me if I wanted to go to Best Buy early and wait in line all day... And I was like I guess(i wasnt working) and he was like cool, you wait in line for me(he was buying a ps4) and ill come along in the evening time and join you... And I was like woo woo wait... Aren't you gonna be out there with me? He was like naw man, I am gonna go to Disneyland with my girlfriend, but don't worry, Ill join you in the evening... And i was like hell no, I am not gonna wait in line all day for you. Just so you can buy a ps4. If you want it that bad, you will go wait in line and ill join you.
I told him, but if you really want me to wait in line all day while you at Dland... Cool. you buy me a ps4 too and ill do it... He said no haha
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On launch night for PS4. I had a friend ask me if I wanted to go to Best Buy early and wait in line all day... And I was like I guess(i wasnt working) and he was like cool, you wait in line for me(he was buying a ps4) and ill come along in the evening time and join you... And I was like woo woo wait... Aren't you gonna be out there with me? He was like naw man, I am gonna go to Disneyland with my girlfriend, but don't worry, Ill join you in the evening... And i was like hell no, I am not gonna wait in line all day for you. Just so you can buy a ps4. If you want it that bad, you will go wait in line and ill join you.
I told him, but if you really want me to wait in line all day while you at Dland... Cool. you buy me a ps4 too and ill do it... He said no haha
LOL Great story :D
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Lol thats a funny friend. I would have given him the finger.
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Nothing too big for me, just when I buy a game just to have it or buy multiple ports of the same game xD
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I just had to remove a post because... I. Said. NO. VOLDEMORTGATE. DISCUSSION.
I DO NOT WANT THIS FORUM TO GET FLOODED WITH THAT CRAP. TAKE THIS DISCUSSION ELSEWHERE. WE DO NOT WANT IT HERE. END OF STORY.
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I've had a few instances where people have looked down at the fact that I play games, but its mostly from family members. It's pretty disconcerting to hear on a regular basis that this hobby is a waste of time and that I spend too much time gaming from my parents, and older family members despite the fact that they use electronics on a much longer and regular basis and dump way larger sums of money on things like shoes, etc.. Thankfully, my brother and family members around my age are pretty accepting of my hobbies, as well as most of my friends. I know that gaming and collecting is a core part of who I am and I refuse to let other people try to take that satisfaction from me, or try to stop me from introducing it to other people.
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I've had a few instances where people have looked down at the fact that I play games, but its mostly from family members. It's pretty disconcerting to hear on a regular basis that this hobby is a waste of time and that I spend too much time gaming from my parents, and older family members despite the fact that they use electronics on a much longer and regular basis and dump way larger sums of money on things like shoes, etc.. Thankfully, my brother and family members around my age are pretty accepting of my hobbies, as well as most of my friends. I know that gaming and collecting is a core part of who I am and I refuse to let other people try to take that satisfaction from me, or try to stop me from introducing it to other people.
Hey now. I love shoes. I bought a couple of pairs last weekend. Shoes and watches are my fashion vices. A good pair of shoes coupled with a fabulous watch makes me feel dandy and pulls my outfits together. ^^
Gaming in a new pair of shoes and with a stunning watch on your left wrist? That usually leads to a good day.
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That moment when you realize that you've been arguing with someone 20 years younger than you are about video games :-[. Reading youtube comments sometimes makes me feel ashamed when they get out of control, but it all pales in comparison to the arguments people get into over politics, so that makes me feel better.
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That moment when you realize that you've been arguing with someone 20 years younger than you are about video games :-[. Reading youtube comments sometimes makes me feel ashamed when they get out of control, but it all pales in comparison to the arguments people get into over politics, so that makes me feel better.
YouTube is just chock full of trolls that do nothing but stir up trouble in the comments section. It's hard not to get into an argument with one of them if you are doing the commenting thing on YouTube.
If you watch YouTube reviewers, some of the AVGN fans can be the worst. They troll other reviewers and just talk about how they're all AVGN wannabes and suck. I see that everywhere. Or another one, some rap fan will trolls metal videos just to talk about how much metal sucks. Don't these people have better things to do in their free time?
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When I was in High School, I was often embarrassed about being a gamer. Between being a girl gamer, wearing glasses, having braces, and being involved in just the nerdier clubs, I was a target for bullies, and this was long before zero-tolerance was a thing.
I got into college and found out there were others like me, although there were still only two women in most of my Computer Science classes, and I was the only female to graduate with that degree the year I walked in my cap and gown. Still, the guys were way cool about accepting a woman to game nights and other nerdy events. I started to gain a bit of confidence and allowed myself to admit that I wanted people to know I was a gamer.
When I met my husband (Ronalopolis, if he'd ever post), things changed dramatically. He loved me, not despite my interests, but partially because of them. If I have someone who loves me, I thought, that's all that matters, and I'll always have that. I became ME.
Now, I have no qualms about telling the lady at the register that I don't need a gift receipt because that toy is for me, not some niece or nephew. The Toys 'R Us employees know me by name and give me dirt on the Skylander releases. My co-workers see me playing my 3DS on my lunch break, and they treat it just as if I were reading a book like so many of them do.
Yes, I get those "waste of your life" comments here and there, but responding with "Yeah, but I don't have cable and how much time do you spend watching reality television?" usually shuts those nay-sayers right up.
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I've had a few instances where people have looked down at the fact that I play games, but its mostly from family members. It's pretty disconcerting to hear on a regular basis that this hobby is a waste of time and that I spend too much time gaming from my parents, and older family members despite the fact that they use electronics on a much longer and regular basis and dump way larger sums of money on things like shoes, etc.. Thankfully, my brother and family members around my age are pretty accepting of my hobbies, as well as most of my friends. I know that gaming and collecting is a core part of who I am and I refuse to let other people try to take that satisfaction from me, or try to stop me from introducing it to other people.
Hey now. I love shoes. I bought a couple of pairs last weekend. Shoes and watches are my fashion vices. A good pair of shoes coupled with a fabulous watch makes me feel dandy and pulls my outfits together. ^^
Gaming in a new pair of shoes and with a stunning watch on your left wrist? That usually leads to a good day.
Oh don't worry shoes are cool. But I just hate looking into the shoe closet and seeing like 100+ pairs of shoes just sitting there, and they're mostly heels so they go unused. Speaking of which, I really do need a new pair soon, so I'd better get crackin since finding stuff for my foot size(15) can be a bit hard.
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When I was in High School, I was often embarrassed about being a gamer. Between being a girl gamer, wearing glasses, having braces, and being involved in just the nerdier clubs, I was a target for bullies, and this was long before zero-tolerance was a thing.
I got into college and found out there were others like me, although there were still only two women in most of my Computer Science classes, and I was the only female to graduate with that degree the year I walked in my cap and gown. Still, the guys were way cool about accepting a woman to game nights and other nerdy events. I started to gain a bit of confidence and allowed myself to admit that I wanted people to know I was a gamer.
When I met my husband (Ronalopolis, if he'd ever post), things changed dramatically. He loved me, not despite my interests, but partially because of them. If I have someone who loves me, I thought, that's all that matters, and I'll always have that. I became ME.
Now, I have no qualms about telling the lady at the register that I don't need a gift receipt because that toy is for me, not some niece or nephew. The Toys 'R Us employees know me by name and give me dirt on the Skylander releases. My co-workers see me playing my 3DS on my lunch break, and they treat it just as if I were reading a book like so many of them do.
Yes, I get those "waste of your life" comments here and there, but responding with "Yeah, but I don't have cable and how much time do you spend watching reality television?" usually shuts those nay-sayers right up.
*claps*
Yeah, I'm proud of being a girl who games. I'm happy with who I am, the people in my lives, and I know that gaming is a big part of who I am and who is in my life.
Who can really fault us for doing things that make us happy, laugh, and remember that there is fun to be had in life?
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I owe 90% of my Sega Genesis collection to my wife. :)
I was a Nintendo boy she was a Sega girl. Can I make it anymore obvious?
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We're the opposite. I was a Nintendo girl and he was a Sega boy.
Just before we got married, he went to a garage sale and got 9 Intellivisions (we took parts from 4 to make the other 5 work, but it did snag us a working Intellivision 1, 2, and 3), an Odyssey, a TurboGrafx 16, and a van-load full of games for them for $50 from a guy, after his wife was just sick of his gaming and told him it had to be out by the end of the day.
I remember my husband saying that he knew that would never happen to us, and that made him love me even more, especially after the two days we spent geeking out over all the games we'd scored.
The couple who games together stays together!
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I remember my husband saying that he knew that would never happen to us, and that made him love me even more, especially after the two days we spent geeking out over all the games we'd scored.
The couple who games together stays together!
Aaawww, that's so sweet. Perhaps one day I shall find someone ;)
I like how these posts have taken a turn for the best, considering the original subject. No at all, we've never been ashamed
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I remember my husband saying that he knew that would never happen to us, and that made him love me even more, especially after the two days we spent geeking out over all the games we'd scored.
The couple who games together stays together!
Aaawww, that's so sweet. Perhaps one day I shall find someone ;)
I like how these posts have taken a turn for the best, considering the original subject. No at all, we've never been ashamed
I think it's great to be a gamer and I'm not ashamed that I play and collect games. I think things have skewed a bit from my original post. It was a story about a steaming pile of human waste making gamers everywhere look bad. A face-palm moment if you will.
In any event, happy that this thread made people feel good about their hobby.
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Hmm. Calling another gamer (heck, another person) a "steaming pile of human waste" seems harsh since he didn't do anything offensive to you or the other people in line. He might fit some mold or a stereotype when non-gamers think of gamers, but I would never put someone down for things they can't control. He wasn't dressed to the nines and was overweight, but I'll be the first to admit I don't always head to the game store looking I came off the covers of GQ. He had facial and body acne. Part of the problem with that is hygiene, yes, but having grown up with it I can tell you that you often times need strong medication/treatment to keep it in check. He may not have had the means for a dermatologist. As for his other hygienic issues, my olfactory glands would be struggling just like anyone else's, but I wouldn't hold it against him.
Actually, one of my best friends of all time is overweight and still has problems with his skin. We were gaming one day and I told him that he needed new clothes since his "style" was similar to that of person you described. So, I offered to go shopping with him. We came back with a fresh wardrobe and a few new games for our libraries.
I guess my point is that this isolated incident with the person who picked up two copies of Halo 2 shouldn't make anyone feel bad about being a gamer. He may not have been the spitting image of a fashion model, but he was someone who enjoys video games and likely needs a friend to give him some guidance outside of that realm.
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Hmm. Calling another gamer (heck, another person) a "steaming pile of human waste" seems harsh since he didn't do anything offensive to you or the other people in line. He might fit some mold or a stereotype when non-gamers think of gamers, but I would never put someone down for things they can't control. He wasn't dressed to the nines and was overweight, but I'll be the first to admit I don't always head to the game store looking I came off the covers of GQ. He had facial and body acne. Part of the problem with that is hygiene, yes, but having grown up with it I can tell you that you often times need strong medication/treatment to keep it in check. He may not have had the means for a dermatologist. As for his other hygienic issues, my olfactory glands would be struggling just like anyone else's, but I wouldn't hold it against him.
Actually, one of my best friends of all time is overweight and still has problems with his skin. We were gaming one day and I told him that he needed new clothes since his "style" was similar to that of person you described. So, I offered to go shopping with him. We came back with a fresh wardrobe and a few new games for our libraries.
I guess my point is that this isolated incident with the person who picked up two copies of Halo 2 shouldn't make anyone feel bad about being a gamer. He may not have been the spitting image of a fashion model, but he was someone who enjoys video games and likely needs a friend to give him some guidance outside of that realm.
Ever have one of those days when everything goes wrong? Yeah..that's today. I guess I overemphasized the description to illustrate my point that I am personally not ashamed to be a gamer, but that person, in that moment made me feel ashamed due to the perceived association and stereotyping that gamers are all like that. Sorry for making it sound so harsh. But I do have to say that his body odor was offensive to me. I also don't hold it against anyone who is overweight as I am myself. I may reaaallllyy like that new Halo shirt, but if it doesn't come in my size then I have to say "Well, guess I'm not getting that Halo shirt." And this gentleman's problem was definitely hygiene-related and not a dermatological issue.
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I mean, if there's an issue with the skin (epidermis/dermis) then it's 100% dermatological. Like I said, part of it does have to do with hygiene. Diet is another factor: peanuts, colas and chocolates are three big ones to avoid if you're trying to clear your skin. Even the cleanest people can get breakouts. Even the most diet conscious people can get breakouts.
Pills and topical treatments can add up. I'm speaking from experience.
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I remember my husband saying that he knew that would never happen to us, and that made him love me even more, especially after the two days we spent geeking out over all the games we'd scored.
The couple who games together stays together!
Aaawww, that's so sweet. Perhaps one day I shall find someone ;)
I like how these posts have taken a turn for the best, considering the original subject. No at all, we've never been ashamed
I think it's great to be a gamer and I'm not ashamed that I play and collect games. I think things have skewed a bit from my original post. It was a story about a steaming pile of human waste making gamers everywhere look bad. A face-palm moment if you will.
In any event, happy that this thread made people feel good about their hobby.
I don't let others represent me and I make it clear to folks that think they know ME because they've seem others in my demographic that they are mistaken.
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I mean, if there's an issue with the skin (epidermis/dermis) then it's 100% dermatological. Like I said, part of it does have to do with hygiene. Diet is another factor: peanuts, colas and chocolates are three big ones to avoid if you're trying to clear your skin. Even the cleanest people can get breakouts. Even the most diet conscious people can get breakouts.
Pills and topical treatments can add up. I'm speaking from experience.
I agree with you on people that have issues like that. No argument here.
I'm speaking purely from the POV of someone who has body odor because a lack of washing. Greasy, matted hair with dandruff flakes and/or dried hairspray all throughout because they don't wash it. Teeth covered in plaque because they don't brush and the fecal matter-scented breath that accompanies it. Clothes that haven't been washed in ages where they smell like a wet mop that sat too long and soured. This isn't an issue with a skin condition. It's called being slovenly. And if you can afford to buy collector's editions of videogames at their midnight launches, you should be able to afford some off-brand body wash, a toothbrush, toothpaste and laundry detergent. That stuff costs about $8, even at today's prices at Wally World. ;)
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Yeah, I'm proud of being a girl who games. I'm happy with who I am, the people in my lives, and I know that gaming is a big part of who I am and who is in my life.
Who can really fault us for doing things that make us happy, laugh, and remember that there is fun to be had in life?
It's funny, but the majority of gamers - let alone hardcore gamers - that I personally know are women. One is a former developer that worked on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, and plays a crapton of stuff like Left 4 Dead 2; one works for Comedy Central by day, owns over a dozen systems and probably about 1500 games, and is married to a professional comic book artist; another is a web developer for EA who goes nuts for stuff like The Witcher and Dragon Age - ditto a librarian friend. The list goes on, and they're all elite gamer geeks.
The guys, on the other hand? A bunch who own - at best - maybe 10 games and don't play any of them routinely; one guy who plays tons of games, but only on PC, pays his bills by selling weed and delivering pizza, and thinks women are genetically worse at gaming than guys; and one guy who's a computer programmer, and only plays indie games on Linux. Not exactly a sterling lot.
People need to stop listening to dumb internet commentary and skewed statistics. They would have us believing that women only play cute, casual games, but the reality is that there are tons of women who represent a vital and visible chunk of the market for real, hardcore games.
Also, you are cool and I love our circle derp discussions w/ Scott, Justin, Kimimi, and Foxhack on Twitter ^.^
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I've known many non gamers that match the description.
Speaking of dumb Internet commentary.
Tune in to the Retro-Reload live stream tonight at 8:30pm pacific. :)
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Right, I wasn't talking about his odor or his other "traits." I was talking just about a skin condition that can't be removed simply by washing and watching what you eat.
The cost of the Rx level good stuff that has the best results costs about the same if not more than a couple of games.
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Yeah, I'm proud of being a girl who games. I'm happy with who I am, the people in my lives, and I know that gaming is a big part of who I am and who is in my life.
Who can really fault us for doing things that make us happy, laugh, and remember that there is fun to be had in life?
It's funny, but the majority of gamers - let alone hardcore gamers - that I personally know are women. One is a former developer that worked on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, and plays a crapton of stuff like Left 4 Dead 2; one works for Comedy Central by day, owns over a dozen systems and probably about 1500 games, and is married to a professional comic book artist; another is a web developer for EA who goes nuts for stuff like The Witcher and Dragon Age - ditto a librarian friend. The list goes on, and they're all elite gamer geeks.
The guys, on the other hand? A bunch who own - at best - maybe 10 games and don't play any of them routinely; one guy who plays tons of games, but only on PC, pays his bills by selling weed and delivering pizza, and thinks women are genetically worse at gaming than guys; and one guy who's a computer programmer, and only plays indie games on Linux. Not exactly a sterling lot.
People need to stop listening to dumb internet commentary and skewed statistics. They would have us believing that women only play cute, casual games, but the reality is that there are tons of women who represent a vital and visible chunk of the market for real, hardcore games.
Also, you are cool and I love our circle derp discussions w/ Scott, Justin, Kimimi, and Foxhack on Twitter ^.^
Aw, I love all o' y'all, too! <3 <3 <3 And those other girl gamer friends you have all sound awesome!
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I mean, if there's an issue with the skin (epidermis/dermis) then it's 100% dermatological. Like I said, part of it does have to do with hygiene. Diet is another factor: peanuts, colas and chocolates are three big ones to avoid if you're trying to clear your skin. Even the cleanest people can get breakouts. Even the most diet conscious people can get breakouts.
Pills and topical treatments can add up. I'm speaking from experience.
I agree with you on people that have issues like that. No argument here.
I'm speaking purely from the POV of someone who has body odor because a lack of washing. Greasy, matted hair with dandruff flakes and/or dried hairspray all throughout because they don't wash it. Teeth covered in plaque because they don't brush and the fecal matter-scented breath that accompanies it. Clothes that haven't been washed in ages where they smell like a wet mop that sat too long and soured. This isn't an issue with a skin condition. It's called being slovenly. And if you can afford to buy collector's editions of videogames at their midnight launches, you should be able to afford some off-brand body wash, a toothbrush, toothpaste and laundry detergent. That stuff costs about $8, even at today's prices at Wally World. ;)
Holy, Hopping, Heaping, Hostile & Harsh Heaps of Hyperbole, Batman! :-X
Many people who are severely depressed, have been traumatized/are experiencing & dealing with PTSD, going through & battling alcohol, gambling, drug & pretty much almost all other addiction problems, and/or are mentally, emotionally, developmentally, etc. disabled, challenged, or disturbed would also fall under your big, fat umbrella - painted with that even bigger & fatter brush...symptom & behavior-wise.
Getting frustrated, upset, impatient, annoyed, angry, etc is all fine ;)
Tearing-down, ripping apart, judging, and (trying to) elevate yourself & feel better by belittling others w/o knowing anything other than some basic stereotypes...is *not* really quite so fine, appears very 'High-School-ish, --and-- IMO, smacks & *reeks* :P a bit of immaturity, close-mindedness, and just plain-old kind of being a bit of a prick & not a very nice person >:(
Whatever.
Like I said, nothing but my opinion 8)
and...you *did* ask us:
"what we all thought"? :o
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I mean, if there's an issue with the skin (epidermis/dermis) then it's 100% dermatological. Like I said, part of it does have to do with hygiene. Diet is another factor: peanuts, colas and chocolates are three big ones to avoid if you're trying to clear your skin. Even the cleanest people can get breakouts. Even the most diet conscious people can get breakouts.
Pills and topical treatments can add up. I'm speaking from experience.
I agree with you on people that have issues like that. No argument here.
I'm speaking purely from the POV of someone who has body odor because a lack of washing. Greasy, matted hair with dandruff flakes and/or dried hairspray all throughout because they don't wash it. Teeth covered in plaque because they don't brush and the fecal matter-scented breath that accompanies it. Clothes that haven't been washed in ages where they smell like a wet mop that sat too long and soured. This isn't an issue with a skin condition. It's called being slovenly. And if you can afford to buy collector's editions of videogames at their midnight launches, you should be able to afford some off-brand body wash, a toothbrush, toothpaste and laundry detergent. That stuff costs about $8, even at today's prices at Wally World. ;)
Holy, Hopping, Heaping, Hostile & Harsh Heaps of Hyperbole, Batman! :-X
Many people who are severely depressed, have been traumatized/are experiencing & dealing with PTSD, going through & battling alcohol, gambling, drug & pretty much almost all other addiction problems, and/or are mentally, emotionally, developmentally, etc. disabled, challenged, or disturbed would also fall under your big, fat umbrella - painted with that even bigger & fatter brush...symptom & behavior-wise.
Getting frustrated, upset, impatient, annoyed, angry, etc is all fine ;)
Tearing-down, ripping apart, judging, and (trying to) elevate yourself & feel better by belittling others w/o knowing anything other than some basic stereotypes...is *not* really quite so fine, appears very 'High-School-ish, --and-- IMO, smacks & *reeks* :P a bit of immaturity, close-mindedness, and just plain-old kind of being a bit of a prick & not a very nice person >:(
Whatever.
Like I said, nothing but my opinion 8)
and...you *did* ask us:
"what we all thought"? :o
I wasn't trying to tear anyone down. I understand and have dealt with people with a diminished mental capacity, health issues, etc on a daily basis at work for the past 18 years. I wasn't trying to cast an umbrella over anyone or everyone with issues. Nor was I in any way trying to elevate myself. If anything, I despise people who think they are better than everyone else and I lead a pretty simple life focused on my family and raising my girls to be respectful young ladies. I've also dealt with more than my share of loss and grieving. I hope nobody has to experience the pain of becoming a widow/widower at a young age. Or losing your best friend, your uncle, all of your grandparents and great grandparents from a close-knit family in the span of a decade.
Everyone has their own way of coping with life. Some turn to drugs. Some to drink. Some to murder and some to suicide. I also work in a very depressing environment,again for 18 years and counting. Does this make me a psychology expert or give me insight into people's personal problems? No. I'm no guru.
But what I was speaking of is a man who is filthy, exactly as I described. He seemed pretty happy, smiling and yelling WOOOOOOOO! as he showed off his new game. Irregardless of any life issues he may be dealing with, he was filthy and "reeked."
Does that make me judgemental? I guess in this case yes. But just as smoking is banned from most stores, shoes & shirts are required and no firearms are permitted on many premises, people shouldn't have to be subjected to stench because someone chose not to bathe.
Have you never felt shame or embarrassment because you were perceived to be with someone or part of something you weren't? Never had to tell anyone something they needed to correct? We're they all of diminished mental capacity, suffering depression, etc?
This guy was shameful. Not because he was a gamer, poor, had issues, etc. he was shameful because he chooses to be a slob and to stink. Not talking about uncontrollable acne, sweating or other clinical issues. He chooses not to bathe or brush his teeth and to be the way he is. Period.
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Nevermind, I missed part of that conversation. Should've read further before posting.
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not disliking *you* gtf78...just what you said & how you said it.
have i ever worried about what people thought or felt it important to 'correct' them?
absolutely...just not since high school.
again - someone who's hygenically-challenged, is overly into a game/series, and - very childishly & enthusiastically comes running out of a game store whooping about their newest ___ game...could very well be someone who's incapable of taking care of & cleaning himself in the ways we do and take for granted that others can & should be able to do the same.
ya' never know,
you know?
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I shall now contradict what I said earlier and say this discussion is taking a turn for the worst, what are you even talking about anymore?!
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Not so much ashamed, but kind of felt a little out of place waiting for the midnight release of Modern Warfare 2 at Bestbuy. I was only there because the guy I knew from the store told me they oversold the preorders on the collectors editions, so I should probably get there early (which I found out later he was just F'n with me because he had to work that shift).
I think it was more of a combination of having to be at work by 7am and the car full of teenagers driving by yelling "F...... Losers" that made me think...WTF am I doing out here? ;D
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Not so much ashamed, but kind of felt a little out of place waiting for the midnight release of Modern Warfare 2 at Bestbuy. I was only there because the guy I knew from the store told me they oversold the preorders on the collectors editions, so I should probably get there early (which I found out later he was just F'n with me because he had to work that shift).
I think it was more of a combination of having to be at work by 7am and the car full of teenagers driving by yelling "F...... Losers" that made me think...WTF am I doing out here? ;D
Ah...nothing like a drive-by shaming.