I thought this thread was going to be about the removal of the boob slider thing in Xenoblade Chronicles X.
It's not a real controversy. No one stopped them from releasing the game here, it's clear they are trying to just get attention for a game that isn't a big seller over here and not the kind of game that is usually well received over here. It's not getting a European release either. They are either not wanting to localize it and trying to get more attention for importing it (Play Asia was stoking the fires simply so they could make money off this), or they'll release it later, but they just wanted to stoke the fires themselves, so that when they do release it here, there's a group of "Anti-Censorship" (it wasn't censorship) guys, running out to buy copies out of some sort of misguided support for game freedom.
Team Ninja is not a company that has ever cared about how their silly jiggle physic games are viewed lol
I've read up a bit on it and I don't think they are trying to promote the game, in fact I think they are intentionally avoiding talking about it. Fans keep asking about why it's not getting localized outside of Japan. They answer. America is the land of "everything offends someone" and political correctness. The portrayal of women in video games has been a hot-button topic and I've avoided talking about it because I don't want to take a chance that I might hurt someone's feelings.
With that being said, I agree with doafan that this game should be localized. The female form is pleasing to the eye, hence why billions upon billions of dollars are spent on things like porn, hookers, strippers, etc. people like Anita Sarkeesian need to shut the fuck up. If they don't like the way a woman is portrayed in a certain video game, don't fucking play it! Instead of venting their indignation at digital portrayals of women, why don't they do something productive like trying to stop real life women from wearing a thong and yoga pants? That's a helluva lot more damaging when it comes to the objectification of women because the wearer is basically saying "Check out how hot and jiggly my ass is in these pants!" It would probably also help a lot of poor husbands and boyfriends from being slapped because their significant other caught them taking a peek.
There you go Sarkeesian! You could simultaneously fight the objectification of women and domestic violence at the same time!
I'd probably lean on the "SJW" (Not using that seriously) side of things, because I'm all for supporting diversity and creating better characters, particularly women who've gotten the shit end of things for years
I'd probably lean on the "SJW" (Not using that seriously) side of things, because I'm all for supporting diversity and creating better characters, particularly women who've gotten the shit end of things for years
I've always been a little bit confused by this sentiment. I'm not trying to start an argument, but have women truly had such a troubling history of representation in video games? It's true that games starring female characters are in the minority, but any time there's a playable woman in a game, she's almost always portrayed just as strong, brave and capable as any of the male characters.
Looking at some historical examples...
Gauntlet - the valkyrie isn't a meek bow user, she's a full on melee powerhouse
Street Fighter II - Chun Li was just as strong as any other character
Double Dragon II - there's no playable female characters, but female punks do attack you as an equal threat to male enemies
Castlevania III - Syphia has the most devastating attacks in the game
Super Mario Bros 2 - Peach's float ability makes her essentially the best character
Metroid - Samus obviously
Chrono Trigger - Not only is the brainiest character Lucca female, so is the brawniest with Ayla
Mortal Kombat - Isn't Sonya a special agent and martial arts expert?
Golden Axe - Tyris
The Simpsons Arcade - Even Marge and Lisa are just as strong as Homer and Bart
Those are just some of the most famous examples I can think of, there's tons of others scattered across old consoles. Of course there's gonna be crazy fanservice games like Oneechanbara and Senran Kagura (which I also enjoy), but these aren't anywhere near mainstream. I guess my point is that there are way more positive portrayals of women in games than people often give credit for. And for an industry that was for years targeted almost entirely at males, that's not too bad right?
It didn't help that Play Asia was purposefully stoking the fires and very obviously trying to make the controversy even more real, simply so they could sell more copies of the game.
There's 1 reason this isn't being localized, and only 1 - they don't think it will sell. If they thought it would, they'd bring it over in a heartbeat. There is no sinister group of anti-boob activists behind this move.
A lot of people is saying this even AlphaOmegaSin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HInXMcOgT54) leave his comments in a video and I really doesn't believe that this is a marketing strategy, at least not from Koei Tecmo, want to think that they really doesn't give a shit about other countries, maybe am wrong but the whole idea that one group was able to censorship or avoid the release of a video game at least for me it's so stupid but if its true then we are talking about serious business because it this group of people can make this happen with one game who can assure me that they will not gonna do the same with another titles ?
I think the point we are missing here is that doafan (the doa obviously stands for Dead or Alive) is upset that the game isn't getting localized and that the perception is because Americans (in general) are a bunch of uptight pussies that while just fine with exposing to children to visual forms of violence just can't stand for these children to see boobies.
This is further compounded by the fact that everyone in this country (and this affects Mexico and Canada also because the games are localized as NTSC as well) is offended by everything and loudmouth people bitch about everything on the internet
I think the point we are missing here is that doafan (the doa obviously stands for Dead or Alive) is upset that the game isn't getting localized and that the perception is because Americans (in general) are a bunch of uptight pussies that while just fine with exposing to children to visual forms of violence just can't stand for these children to see boobies.
Upset is not the right word to be used here, am kinda worried of this kind of situations and am not talking exclusively about the DOA franchise cause at the worst situation I can import the game and see how to make it work in my country, my inquiry if am able to say it this way is that if the censorship started with a bunch a people that doesn't have anything better to do with their lives (and no am not talking about all Americans in general because we do have a lot of uptight pussies here in Mexico too) caused this non release outside Japan what will be next ?, blood, fighting, killing, plot censorship ?This is further compounded by the fact that everyone in this country (and this affects Mexico and Canada also because the games are localized as NTSC as well) is offended by everything and loudmouth people bitch about everything on the internet
You took the words of out my mouth man.
I think the point we are missing here is that doafan (the doa obviously stands for Dead or Alive) is upset that the game isn't getting localized and that the perception is because Americans (in general) are a bunch of uptight pussies that while just fine with exposing to children to visual forms of violence just can't stand for these children to see boobies.
This is further compounded by the fact that everyone in this country (and this affects Mexico and Canada also because the games are localized as NTSC as well) is offended by everything and loudmouth people bitch about everything on the internet. See my earlier post about how I feel about it. Just my two cents.