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General and Gaming => Off Topic => Topic started by: marvelvscapcom2 on May 26, 2016, 04:55:54 am
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Imagine a globe. And instead of earth being in the center of the universe. The universe is in the center of the earth (sphere). Earth is the mother sphere. We are on the outer edge of a huge sphere which acts as the encasing for all of existence. The outer layer if you will. The sun, Moon and other planets as well as the vast galaxy and all that exists was never around us but rather the center of our planet. the planet we inhabit now isnt really a planet but rather just a piece of the big full Earth. As we ascend we really plummet deeper towards the core. The universe is actually a planet's core. The mother planet birthed all other planets and life. The creator of the universe is the universe itself.
So when we look at the sun we look at vast space inside of our globe. we are on an outer edge. We only think that the galaxy is the outside of our planet but it is more believable to assume we are part of the housing of the galaxy rather than a small piece of it. This would make it more understandable why the galaxy exists. It is because we are the galaxy. For example earth is not a small flea on a dog but rather a dog with many fleas on it. And perception is what makes us believe either or. What we call earth now acts as a Continent if you will for the mother planet. Millions of planets all form the outer edge of the mother planet and the inside is the universe or core. outside of that is nothing.
This really gives us more purpose as we don't feel so meaningless and small. really we are the whole of everything and the universe harbors inside US. :D
As for the fact that when we venture into space we see earth on the horizon, that is the main fact that for lack of a better term "mother" earth is so massive, the portion we see is only one part of the outer layer, the one we inhabit. millions of miles else where we would find other spherical land masses (planets) that form the outer layer of earth which is the whole mother planet. it is hard to explain but I have to keep thinking to finalize my theory. Something to think about anyway.
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I don't know, you lost me when you said that the Earth is the center of the universe.
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Too early for a wall of text.
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I think you need a new hobby, may i suggest watching porn? ;D
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Draw a diagram if its humanly possible.
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I'm pretty sure the earth is just a tiny, insignificant pebble in the vast cosmos. A cosmos so large that the human mind is completely incapable of fathoming.
I also think you've been doing too much drugs. :P
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Someone needs to lay of the psychotropic drugs. acid ruins the mind.
don't get me wrong I somewhat like the philosophy your throwing in their at the end but the shear scientific inaccuracy of which you speak concerns me and I hope like hell you don't actually believe it.
Also I would like to point out that this was an ACTUAL belief from the NAZI's but was easily proven wrong by a few things. for one the world falls away from you. if this were true then you could look out to the horizon and still see the earths ground rising slowly above you.
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This makes no sense, coming from my science classes.
On the other hand, you could write a remake of Jules Verne's Journey to the Center of the Earth.
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I don't know how to respond to these kind of threads anymore. Gf78, telling from your profile photo, signature and personal text under your profile photo, it's taken a toll on you too. :P
EDIT: It is arrogant of you to see yourself as the center. You are as nothing as the ants you step on--of course, you'd deny this because you may think this world was made just for you and everything in it is just for your sake. Cosmos aside, I'd suggest you read a few Richard Dawkins books such as "The Selfish Gene" and "The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution." Maybe even "The Blind watchmaker" and "The Ancestor's tale." The reason I recommend these books to you despite them having little or nothing to do with the cosmos but instead evolution is to give you the fundamentals of what I'd like to call "You aren't as important as you think." It might just help you mold your theory a bit.
I'd also recommend looking for popular well reviewed books from astrophysicists and cosmologists like Neil Degrasse Tyson. The world/universe does not owe you meaning or a purpose for life, that is a human concept you won't get in nature. There is no definitive answer. Find whatever it is you can think of that would give you a sense of purpose for life.
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I don't know how to respond to these kind of threads anymore. Gf78, telling from your profile photo, signature and personal text under your profile photo, it's taken a toll on you too. :P
LOL...I revel in the paranoia of others. :P
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All in good fun, I presume. ;P
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All in good fun, I presume. ;P
Of course!
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So is this the next step for those celebrities who think the world is flat?
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I'm pretty sure the earth is just a tiny, insignificant pebble in the vast cosmos. A cosmos so large that the human mind is completely incapable of fathoming.
I also think you've been doing too much drugs. :P
No drugs for me bud. I have lost sooo many friends to drugs to ever do them myself. I actually try to advocate against them when I can. My best friend overdosed on meth when I was 17. Drugs really ruined a lot of my family and friends. I seen how it changed him. He was one of my best friends and now he just has this blank expression. His brain is fried. It really sucks. He's not even the same person anymore. I miss the memories we had. While most of my friends did ecstacy and went to clubs, I always found myself playing GameCube. I lost a lot of friends because of it but I rather lose friends then to lose myself.
Yeah, you are probably right. We are definitely so small compared to the vast space around us. I just think a lot about our purpose and why we are so small and what else is out there. Why do we exist. Because the universe is impossible to know because it is so big. What created us and why did it? Answers we will never find. Their has to be a reason behind the madness.
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I'm pretty sure the earth is just a tiny, insignificant pebble in the vast cosmos. A cosmos so large that the human mind is completely incapable of fathoming.
I also think you've been doing too much drugs. :P
No drugs for me bud. I have lost sooo many friends to drugs to ever do them myself. I actually try to advocate against them when I can. My best friend overdosed on meth when I was 17. Drugs really ruined a lot of my family and friends. I seen how it changed him. He was one of my best friends and now he just has this blank expression. His brain is fried. It really sucks. He's not even the same person anymore. I miss the memories we had. While most of my friends did ecstacy and went to clubs, I always found myself playing GameCube. I lost a lot of friends because of it but I rather lose friends then to lose myself.
Yeah, you are probably right. We are definitely so small compared to the vast space around us. I just think a lot about our purpose and why we are so small and what else is out there. Why do we exist. Because the universe is impossible to know because it is so big. What created us and why did it? Answers we will never find. Their has to be a reason behind the madness.
I have the scientific answers generally agreed upon by the scientific community to the 2 bolded sentences.
our purpose is to live until adulthood strong and healthy. pick a mate/mates that are also strong and healthy to make kids that are strong and healthy and raise our kids so they can have kids themselves to keep both our race going strong and our own gene pool going. it is hardwired into our brains to seek this out. the reason it is hardwired in is because not only does it allow us to live for ever, in a sense, but it also makes our lives easier by having extra hands around to do the foraging/hunting/farming/fishing.
our parents created us for the above statement. their parents created them, and their parents created them, all the way back to either our planet being seeded for life by something/the first micro-organism to be produced from the primordial sludge which was present on our early earth/ some other scenario that I don't feel like researching right yet.
just speaking from the vastness of the universe in general it is a statistical certainty that their is at least one other place that harbored/is harboring life regardless of size/ intelligence
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I have the scientific answers generally agreed upon by the scientific community to the 2 bolded sentences.
our purpose is to live until adulthood strong and healthy. pick a mate/mates that are also strong and healthy to make kids that are strong and healthy and raise our kids so they can have kids themselves to keep both our race going strong and our own gene pool going. it is hardwired into our brains to seek this out. the reason it is hardwired in is because not only does it allow us to live for ever, in a sense, but it also makes our lives easier by having extra hands around to do the foraging/hunting/farming/fishing.
our parents created us for the above statement. their parents created them, and their parents created them, all the way back to either our planet being seeded for life by something/the first micro-organism to be produced from the primordial sludge which was present on our early earth/ some other scenario that I don't feel like researching right yet.
just speaking from the vastness of the universe in general it is a statistical certainty that their is at least one other place that harbored/is harboring life regardless of size/ intelligence
Since man has begun searching the stars in our own Milky Way Galaxy, we have detected over two dozen exoplanets (planets orbiting a star not our own) in the "habitable zone" or the area around the host star that could support liquid water on the surface. That is with the Kepler space telescope focused on just one area of our galaxy and not "looking around" different directions. Think about that: over two dozen possible planets to support life. Our own little Milky Way Galaxy is home to over 100~400 billion :o stars and an estimated 100 billion planets or quite possibly a great magnitude more. Our next closest galaxy is Andromeda. Andromeda is approximately 20% larger than the Milky Way.
To give you a sense of scale, the Earth is 93 million miles from the sun. The New Horizons probe from NASA was launched on 09/24/2005 on it's way to Pluto. New Horizons made it's closest approach to Pluto on 07/14/2015, nearly ten full years later. New Horizons traveled at an average speed of 36,373mph. That incredible speed....for ten years....to reach the furthest (dwarf) planet we know of in our little solar system.
Studying the effects of gravity in the Kuiper Belt (the area at the farthest reaches of our solar system), scientists believe that there is at least one as-yet undiscovered ice giant planet past Pluto.
I guess I'm saying that the universe is an impossibly huge place. I hope I'm still alive when we make contact with beings from another planet.
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That is the age old question of looking for life in the universe. According to the odds, there should be a crapload of inhabited worlds in our galaxy alone. But that begs the question: Where is everyone then? If there was other intelligent life out there, there should be easily identifiable evidence of civilization on these planets, yet we haven't found a shred of evidence of that.
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There isnt, we are alone. Just believe in God
;D
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^ Even for those that do believe in the Bible, the Bible says that there are other beings out there. Because it says we were the only race of beings to fall to sin, implying that there are races out there that didn't.
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That is the age old question of looking for life in the universe. According to the odds, there should be a crapload of inhabited worlds in our galaxy alone. But that begs the question: Where is everyone then? If there was other intelligent life out there, there should be easily identifiable evidence of civilization on these planets, yet we haven't found a shred of evidence of that.
When our own Sun is over 93 million miles from us and little Pluto is nearly 3.2 billion miles from Earth....that's pretty far. Our best scientific knowledge and ability and it took 10 years to reach Pluto. The universe is a grand, infinite space. Our ability to look at other planets is extremely limited at this time. It's not like we can pull up a telescope and survey the surface of a planet.
But on the flipside, we know so much more about our solar system now than 20 years ago. We've found other dwarf planets orbiting our sun. We landed rovers on Mars and have discovered water ice on it's surface. We've learned how Mars has lost it's atmosphere. We know that the moon Europa orbiting Jupiter has a thin atmosphere primarily made up of oxygen and that under the icy surface, there is (more than likely) vast liquid water oceans.
Basically, we are still in our "interstellar infancy."
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There isnt, we are alone. Just believe in God
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Hope you're kidding. 8)
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That is the age old question of looking for life in the universe. According to the odds, there should be a crapload of inhabited worlds in our galaxy alone. But that begs the question: Where is everyone then? If there was other intelligent life out there, there should be easily identifiable evidence of civilization on these planets, yet we haven't found a shred of evidence of that.
When our own Sun is over 93 million miles from us and little Pluto is nearly 3.2 billion miles from Earth....that's pretty far. Our best scientific knowledge and ability and it took 10 years to reach Pluto. The universe is a grand, infinite space. Our ability to look at other planets is extremely limited at this time. It's not like we can pull up a telescope and survey the surface of a planet.
But on the flipside, we know so much more about our solar system now than 20 years ago. We've found other dwarf planets orbiting our sun. We landed rovers on Mars and have discovered water ice on it's surface. We've learned how Mars has lost it's atmosphere. We know that the moon Europa orbiting Jupiter has a thin atmosphere primarily made up of oxygen and that under the icy surface, there is (more than likely) vast liquid water oceans.
Basically, we are still in our "interstellar infancy."
We can, though. There's an entire project in NASA that I follow in one of my feeds that's entire goal is seeking out planets where this is possible life. They point out things like being able to see structures on the surface of a planet, or lights that would indicate civilization. They also keep a look out for evidence of any space-faring races which would include satellites, spacecraft, or even space junk. No such things have ever turned up. However, at the same time, they have found a large number of planets where it would be possible to support life.
It's the Kepler satellite that is assigned to this mission.
It was the Drake Equation that originally talked about the high possibility of intelligent life out there. But it has since been revised since the Kepler satellite found a lot of the hospitable planets to make it an even higher possibility, now.