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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: cloud1771 on June 06, 2016, 09:27:33 pm
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So I plan to start collected all cartridge games and consoles. I have a handful of games NES, SNES, and N64 from growing up. And my though was to collect with my daughters.
My question is about Repo carts on very hard to get and find games. Such as Earthbound, or really any other cart that goes for outrageous prices. My though was when I have the extra money to get the Repo cart in a different color so I have the games and complete set to play. And later if we come across a really great find get the real thing...but I have no intention of paying more the $50 for a rare title and to me $50 is high(probably wont be using ebay much).
So what are yall's thoughs using repo carts to supplement your Original carts. (i only intend to get the repo carts in a color the original carts were not sold in)
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First off: Welcome to the site. It's a great place. Hit the intro thread and tell us a little about yourself.
As for repros, I have a little different idea about this than a lot of folks. I say emulate those games you can't find easily. Use your computer, softmod a Wii, put them on your phone. There are so many ways to enjoy those games, skip the repros.
That's my 2 cents. I have a few repros and hacks. They're cool and all, but I like to look at the carts.
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Yeah, I agree with Turf here and say that emulation is the best course of action, especially in dealing with imports.
If you really want a cart to use for a system, then maybe get an Everdrive for the one you want the most( those are still cost a bit of money).
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Repros are great. I'm not a fan of digital emulation for my own reasons but I'm all for repros.
And tbf if $50 is your spend limit on any single game, you're going to need repros or you'll miss out on plenty of great games.
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I do emulation on some but its not the same as having a cart.
And shoot we are going to stick to the $5 and under games for as long as possible...but you never know when you will come across that "Little Samson" in a big box of random carts. Lol and having a cute little girl at a flea market asking for a game might just get it cheaper.
I also had the though of looking a garage sales for that box that someone just wants to get rid of or estate sales. Or even buying a big lot and keeping what we need and selling or trading the rest.
But $400-800 for a game no thank you. ill get the $30-50 repo...
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I recommend to not buy repro's go the emultation road.
You do have free ways of emulation wich aren's as good as the original but if you for example buy an ever drive flash cart wich costs between 70 - 150 $ you have acces to all games on original hardware. Furthermore It's a cardridge wich one puts in a console.
It's an easy way to get the real experience on original hardware for all games.
There is no difference compared to the original, buying lose repro's for 50 pop a piece is a big waste of money, there is nothing cool about having a repro of for example little samson just emulate or buy a flash cart for the true experience. Also way cheaper when one buys multiple repro's instead of one flash cart wich has acces to all games.
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I recommend to not buy repro's go the emultation road.
You do have free ways of emulation wich aren's as good as the original but if you for example buy an ever drive flash cart wich costs between 70 - 150 $ you have acces to all games on original hardware. Furthermore It's a cardridge wich one puts in a console.
It's an easy way to get the real experience on original hardware for all games.
There is no difference compared to the original, buying lose repro's for 50 pop a piece is a big waste of money, there is nothing cool about having a repro of for example little samson just emulate or buy a flash cart for the true experience. Also way cheaper when one buys multiple repro's instead of one flash cart wich has acces to all games.
He wants to collect games with his daughter as an experience.
I think a kid is going to much prefer finding a repro cart in the local brick and mortar retro store, than logging on the roms.com and downloading a game.
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I'm personally against repros, and if I owned a repro, I wouldn't mark it on this site as "in my collection". I certainly wouldn't mark that I own the official release. And adding a second copy to the site as homebrew or unofficial release is kind of confusing. Everdrive is nice, but you won't have that experience hunting.
From my experience in big cities like DFW, with a high population, you have a high number of collectors and resellers, so you are going to have your work cut out for you.
My personal suggestion to you, would be to emulate any game valued over a certain threshold ($80 maybe) and anything else try your luck finding it.
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Whatever floats your boat, cloud1771.
If you like the look of repros, go for it. There is no moral authority in this hobby, which might hinder you from going this direction. I have a very nice repro of "Metal Warriors (SNES)" as well. A nice NTSC cart in a very nice shiny repro box looking almost exactly like the original. I know it drives purists and collectorfags nuts everytime, they see or hear about those repros but you are a free individual and you should do whatever you like and not what others like or don't like.
This hobby is about fun and enjoyment for the individual collector, not about becoming compliant to what the community tells the people to do.
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I recommend to not buy repro's go the emultation road.
You do have free ways of emulation wich aren's as good as the original but if you for example buy an ever drive flash cart wich costs between 70 - 150 $ you have acces to all games on original hardware. Furthermore It's a cardridge wich one puts in a console.
It's an easy way to get the real experience on original hardware for all games.
There is no difference compared to the original, buying lose repro's for 50 pop a piece is a big waste of money, there is nothing cool about having a repro of for example little samson just emulate or buy a flash cart for the true experience. Also way cheaper when one buys multiple repro's instead of one flash cart wich has acces to all games.
He wants to collect games with his daughter as an experience.
I think a kid is going to much prefer finding a repro cart in the local brick and mortar retro store, than logging on the roms.com and downloading a game.
I see your point but spending 50 each on expensive games.
Even when buying only 4 copies your in 200, while with an everdrive one purchase of 70 - 150 and your done depending on wich console with acces to all games.
Sure the beginning is some menu but otherwise the experience is exactly the same if not better. You can put every game on the cart to your liking and afterwards you have direct acces to those games.
I personally will never spend money on a repro cart, maybe on some translate if that's not already accesible with the everdrive wich it probably is already or certainly will be in the near future.
The only reason to buy lose repro's is that it looks nice, but remember It's personal It's not the same as having an original cart there is nothing cool about having a repro of an expensive game. Go big or go broke, I'd walk the emulator road and for the best experience a flash cart like the everdrive is highly recommended.
Just my opinion repro's are a waste of money, It looks nice but there are plenty of cheaper ways with the same results on original hardware.
Besides were only talking about the expensive games since the affordable ones can be collected for a decent price. There are plenty of cardridges that can be picked up by the kids.
Unfortunately there are people who scam with these and sell them as the original.
In deals one will not be hurt by repro's but when buying them for pretty much full price there are potential scammers who sell repro's as original.
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Whatever floats your boat, cloud1771.
If you like the look of repros, go for it. There is no moral authority in this hobby, which might hinder you from going this direction. I have a very nice repro of "Metal Warriors (SNES)" as well. A nice NTSC cart in a very nice shiny repro box looking almost exactly like the original. I know it drives purists and collectorfags nuts everytime, they see or hear about those repros but you are a free individual and you should do whatever you like and not what others like or don't like.
This hobby is about fun and enjoyment for the individual collector, not about becoming compliant to what the community tells the people to do.
Watch the language.
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And my though was to collect with my daughters.
Always knew that I can't be the only but I didn't started with my daughters, when they were born already had a couple of titles so as a father to another allow me to say that you are doing a wonderful thing, it's fucking awesome not only to collect but to play together and being able to say, when I was your age I used to play this on rainy days or when I was sick, in my personal opinion I already know that my daughters will have not only good memories with me, they will have something than later they can sell to earn some extra money in case they need it.
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Whatever floats your boat, cloud1771.
If you like the look of repros, go for it. There is no moral authority in this hobby, which might hinder you from going this direction. I have a very nice repro of "Metal Warriors (SNES)" as well. A nice NTSC cart in a very nice shiny repro box looking almost exactly like the original. I know it drives purists and collectorfags nuts everytime, they see or hear about those repros but you are a free individual and you should do whatever you like and not what others like or don't like.
This hobby is about fun and enjoyment for the individual collector, not about becoming compliant to what the community tells the people to do.
What the F is a "collectorfag?" And have to agree with kash, your statement is offensive.
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Whatever floats your boat, cloud1771.
If you like the look of repros, go for it. There is no moral authority in this hobby, which might hinder you from going this direction. I have a very nice repro of "Metal Warriors (SNES)" as well. A nice NTSC cart in a very nice shiny repro box looking almost exactly like the original. I know it drives purists and collectorfags nuts everytime, they see or hear about those repros but you are a free individual and you should do whatever you like and not what others like or don't like.
This hobby is about fun and enjoyment for the individual collector, not about becoming compliant to what the community tells the people to do.
What the F is a "collectorfag?" And have to agree with kash, your statement is offensive.
You get offended way to easy dude.
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Whatever floats your boat, cloud1771.
If you like the look of repros, go for it. There is no moral authority in this hobby, which might hinder you from going this direction. I have a very nice repro of "Metal Warriors (SNES)" as well. A nice NTSC cart in a very nice shiny repro box looking almost exactly like the original. I know it drives purists and collectorfags nuts everytime, they see or hear about those repros but you are a free individual and you should do whatever you like and not what others like or don't like.
This hobby is about fun and enjoyment for the individual collector, not about becoming compliant to what the community tells the people to do.
It's pretty funny actually. But it's only funny the reaction from these douche bags who buy up dozens of copies of the same game with one intent only. And enough to keep everyone else out. Then suddenly someone brings out a nice repro of the same game and they look like fools when no one wants to buy from them after all the treachery, it's pretty priceless.
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I would skip repro carts all together and just get a flash cart. They cost about $200, but you have almost the entire SNES or Genesis library in one cartridge.
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I'm going to break ranks here and say rock the repros.
Search etsy.com and you'll find some repro makers charging $30-50. Some with manuals, boxes, and everything. All clearly marked on the label as repros.
As long as it's clearly labeled a repro I do not see the problem.
If there is no physical or digital copies actively for sale by the rights holders your money is not going to the rights holders either way.
Some have become available legitimately in digital form via the WiiU eshop:
Mighty Final Fight
Earthbound
Megaman
Just to name a few.
I've done the emulation thing via PC or the Retron 5. It's close but not the same. WiiU eshop and Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection are the best emulation I've come across so far.
My entire (authentic) NES Megaman cart collection is on the shelf in repro cases. Looks great and I'm not loosing any sleep or causing anyone physical harm with it.
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As long as it's clearly labeled a repro I do not see the problem.
This is the most important part to me as well. It genuinely bothers/scares me that there are repros out there that are not marked as such.
While I don't ever see myself purchasing a repro of a game that had a commercial release, I do own a repro of The Legend of Zelda: Ancient Stone Tablets and absolutely love it. I could have emulated it just fine (and I have and continue to do so with other games), but it is such a cool collector's piece and I love having it on my shelf.
If you don't care about having individual physical carts and are interested in a lot of expensive games I would definitely recommend a flash cart. I have never owned one, but I have heard many great things about them and you still get to experience the game on the original hardware.
On a sidenote, we are pretty relaxed on rules here, but watch the language in the thread. Homophobic slurs are completely uncalled for
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well and i would only want a cart that was a color Nintendo never used for that system so its obvious, and yes i have seen the etsy.com ones that are customizable as far as cart color... ill skip the all in one cart....I would rather buy a repo cart once a year. And shoot if i ever find a legit "little samson" cart that thing is going in an airtight display box.
I use emulators on newer consoles playstation and newer but 8-bit and 16-bit just isnt the same. Give me original hardware and a tube TV.
As far as emulators I am actually making a Gameboy Zero(gameboy with a raspberry zero in it) and a NES PC(mini ITX mobo in a old broken NES)
Both in various stages atm just time and money on those.
And I get both sides of the opinion...I had already made up my mind it was more of to see what people thought...and there is no wrong answer.
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You get offended way to easy dude.
On a sidenote, we are pretty relaxed on rules here, but watch the language in the thread. Homophobic slurs are completely uncalled for
It's not a matter of "getting offended way to[sic] easy." It's a matter of not using hateful language.
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Whatever floats your boat, cloud1771.
If you like the look of repros, go for it. There is no moral authority in this hobby, which might hinder you from going this direction. I have a very nice repro of "Metal Warriors (SNES)" as well. A nice NTSC cart in a very nice shiny repro box looking almost exactly like the original. I know it drives purists and collectorfags nuts everytime, they see or hear about those repros but you are a free individual and you should do whatever you like and not what others like or don't like.
This hobby is about fun and enjoyment for the individual collector, not about becoming compliant to what the community tells the people to do.
What the F is a "collectorfag?" And have to agree with kash, your statement is offensive.
You get offended way to easy dude.
I'm not offendered and in fact, it takes a lot to offend me. But it's impolite, improper and against the rules to make slurs of that nature. I'm not gay myself, but there are most assuredly members that are.
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You get offended way to easy dude.
On a sidenote, we are pretty relaxed on rules here, but watch the language in the thread. Homophobic slurs are completely uncalled for
It's not a matter of "getting offended way to[sic] easy." It's a matter of not using hateful language.
Just banter.
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It's not banter when it uses words like that.
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Pretty sure that colloquialism came from 4chan, scum of the earth.
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Can we just agree to not use stuff like that? Call them fuckers and everyone is fine. Bitches, assholes, etc. Use any language you like, but leave slurs out of it just for the sake of everyone on the forums.
This is a pretty chill place. Let's try not to mess with that vibe. Please.
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I'm not too familiar with 4chan, but if they use language like that then that's disturbing. Regardless of where it came from, it's just as turf said: this place is usually chill and swearing is something everyone does without anyone getting bent out of shape. However, offensive slurs shouldn't be used. Period.
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Calm down everybody. Don't get a heart attack.
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scum of the earth.
Wasn't that a Rob Zombie song?
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I'm okay with Repros if two criteria are met...
1. It's a game that was never released in NA
2. It does NOT use a sacrificed cart of a prior release
There's a guy at the flea market who's got some repros for sale in and shows them off in a spinning counter display. There's some in there of games that didn't come out here like Super Mario Bros. on Genesis but he also has repros of games that did see a NA release such as Castlevania: Dracula X on SNES and Contra: Hard Corps on Genesis. They're all made from sac carts as well. >:(
I'm not one to tell people what to do with their money and I assume my anti-repro stance comes from the fact that I've been actively collecting for over 20+ years. Back then, piracy was something of an oddity and isn't openly mainstream/accepted like it is today. If you're going to bootleg it's whatever to me, I'd just prefer that any repro is clearly labeled as such (the ones I mentioned above certainly are not) and that they not use sac carts of existing games. I realize there's a glut of sports games out there taking up space but that still doesn't make it right. :P
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Here is my stance. Repros are definitely a nice alternative to some games. If there had been an option to get a Rayearth repro before I finally found the copy I have, I would have gotten it. I honestly think that most people are against repros cause of the value of some games. If all games were worth nothing, who would really care about repros?
I actually also prefer that they sacrifice sports games to make them too. One less sports game on a shelf = win.
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Here is my stance. Repros are definitely a nice alternative to some games. If there had been an option to get a Rayearth repro before I finally found the copy I have, I would have gotten it. I honestly think that most people are against repros cause of the value of some games. If all games were worth nothing, who would really care about repros?
I actually also prefer that they sacrifice sports games to make them too. One less sports game on a shelf = win.
I always assumed that is where the bulk of reused carts came from. You can go to any store that sells games and see dozens of copies of Madden 199* or whatever. I would rather these carts get reused than just tossed out.
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Here is my stance. Repros are definitely a nice alternative to some games. If there had been an option to get a Rayearth repro before I finally found the copy I have, I would have gotten it. I honestly think that most people are against repros cause of the value of some games. If all games were worth nothing, who would really care about repros?
I actually also prefer that they sacrifice sports games to make them too. One less sports game on a shelf = win.
I always assumed that is where the bulk of reused carts came from. You can go to any store that sells games and see dozens of copies of Madden 199* or whatever. I would rather these carts get reused than just tossed out.
Yep.
And seriously how many Super Mario/Duck Hunt carts do we really need in the wild?
Here is a link to a seller on etsy that clearly labels their repros:
https://www.etsy.com/shop/GamesNDecals
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Yep.
And seriously how many Super Mario/Duck Hunt carts do we really need in the wild?
Here is a link to a seller on etsy that clearly labels their repros:
https://www.etsy.com/shop/GamesNDecals
If I was in the market for collecting cartridges - especially games never previously released in the US - this would be a good way to go about it. There are a ton of Squaresoft and Enix RPG's that never left Japan that I've seen repros on eBay for. I've been tempted a time or two, but just never bit the bullet to get into it. It's a cool option to have. I think the market for repros would lead more to custom games for me than imports though. With systems like the Retron 5 and it's ability to run language patches, it's pretty easy to get complete copies of these Japanese games and play them. And the games from Japan are comparatively cheap compared to US releases! :o