I think it would also help to make the old EU (now the Legends canon) canon again and start building off its 40-years of lore and stories. By doing this they'd have to classify all their films and associated books as non-canon, but given the old EU is was more beloved this would probably only help them in the end. They'd have a ton of developed material to work off for films and other projects, and I believe i would win back much of the fractured fandom.
I think it would also help to make the old EU (now the Legends canon) canon again and start building off its 40-years of lore and stories. By doing this they'd have to classify all their films and associated books as non-canon, but given the old EU is was more beloved this would probably only help them in the end. They'd have a ton of developed material to work off for films and other projects, and I believe i would win back much of the fractured fandom.
Hate to bust your bubble here, but just doing the rough math: TLJ sold approximately 100 million tickets to unique patrons ($10 a ticket at 1 billion dollars, rounded down from 1.3 billion to try and remove the number of people who saw it more than once). Even if the split were less than 50/50 on who liked it and who didn't - so lets say 60/40 (closer to the RT score) - that's still 40 million unique people who saw the and liked the movie. Even the most popular SW books of all time cap at at around 15 million copies sold (Heir to the Empire / Shadows of the Empire). Plus the newer generations of fans (PT forward) were never super invested in the EU. From a sheer numbers game - it's never going to happen. Legends is gone and will not be coming back. It is unfortunately a "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" situation - because there are still several characters that I would have liked to see return.
This is complete nonsense. Many Star Wars books, video games, and comics that came out in the wake of the PT sold extremely well. Care to prove that it was only people over 30 buying this?
Plus the newer generations of fans (PT forward) were never super invested in the EU.
Using Rotten Tomatoes as a source for gauging people's opinions on anything is completely invalid. You like number, please explain this. This is the user percentage for The Rise of Skywalker, and mathematically makes zero sense.
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Rotten Tomatoes cherry picks and manipulates review data extensively, and this same thing was happening with Captain Marvel and The Last Jedi. Please take a look at Metacritic for both TLJ and TROS and then tell me how well your stance on a ton of people liking TLJ holds up.
Now that we've established that RT as a metric is useless. Please now explain the decline in interest in Solo and TROS as indicated by the box office returns. Please also explain how it's dramatically declined in ticket sales from TLJ. Also please explain the disappointing attendance at Galaxy's Edge, and why the merchandise sales have been in the toilet since TLJ?
Of course there was a huge surge around Episode 1. I never said that there was no interest. Just like there was after TFA. But that just wasn’t a timeframe that a lot of people found interesting for the EU. The number of published books alone dwindled, and sales tapered off. The Clone Wars movie bombed for that reason in addition to being shitty. It wasn’t until around 2009 that it started to reverse again (Force Unleashed and Clone Wars show).This is complete nonsense. Many Star Wars books, video games, and comics that came out in the wake of the PT sold extremely well. Care to prove that it was only people over 30 buying this?
Plus the newer generations of fans (PT forward) were never super invested in the EU.
You want to make this a numbers game, but you use a highly faulty and questionable source to back your claim and then use absolutely nothing to back up your other assertions. You're not starting out too hot there.
And for the record, I don't think Disney is bringing back the EU either, i never did. I know they have their own vision of Star Wars that they want unhindered by old EU and its lore. I get why they're doing this, but at the same time it was that EU that kept the series going from 1983 to 1999, and again between 2005 and 2015. During that interim tons of merch was sold, a lot involving the EU, so why the hell would you toss out something that valuable to your brand? It's just stupid. And I know despite this Disney could care less, which is fine by me. I'd love to see the old EU return to canon, but I know it's not going to happen.
I would really like it if we kept the more argumentative talk sorta out of the thread as much as possible. Everyone is gonna disagree on Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker and even other movies like the Prequels, so lets just all be on our best behavior for that kind of stuff. We can bring up that we don't like something, but lets not rag on folks for having different opinions. It serves no purpose and isn't fun.
Yeah, I thought the BF 2 campaign was aggressively fine. I would have much preferred if it was a single story for the the view point of Iden as an Imperial, instead of jumping characters and having her switch sides so early in the story.
Force Unleashed was pretty fun. It was a decent beat 'em up style actioner that had a really cool Star Wars sheen on it. It definitely stretched credulity with just how strong Starkiller was, though. I never played the sequel, but it is apparently incredibly short, and as such very disappointing.
The good reviews and comparisons to Dark Souls have made me pretty eager to try out Fallen Order.
See, that’s the kind of stuff that makes me want to play it ;D
Were the Force Unleashed games actually good? I don't remember playing them and I thought about grabbing them on the cheap on Steam with the sale since I'm still in the mood for Star Wars games.
Were the Force Unleashed games actually good? I don't remember playing them and I thought about grabbing them on the cheap on Steam with the sale since I'm still in the mood for Star Wars games.
They were both solid action titles. I'd say the story was better in the first game, but the gameplay was better in the 2nd.
If I had any complaints, it's that, especially on the harder difficulties, you have all these neat force powers but keep coming across enemies resistant to them.
Also, the DLC missions are worth grabbing for both of them as they're neat "What if the Dark side won" scenarios. Most memorable scene of those for me was when you kill Chewie by grabbing him with the force and then use him to take all of Han's blaster shots.
Saw the last episode of season 1 of The Mandalorian and I'd have to give it a solid 7/10 overall. I really enjoyed this series, although the overall pacing of the season was greatly impeded by episodes 4, 5, and 6 which were all filler and barely contributed to the overall story. In fact you could probably skip those three episodes and still know what was going on from episode 3 and continuing on 7. But even the filler episodes had their moments and none of them were outright bad. I am going to rewatch the entire series soon without interruption and see if my opinion of the overall story and pacing changes at all. I can't wait for season 2; this is how you do good Star Wars.
Bringing this back with the new season of The Mandalorian starting and of course I'll say there will be spoilers from here on out for the new episodes, so ignore anything past this if you haven't started the new season.I am glad they got the actor that played Jango to play Boba Fett.
**SPOILERS**
So yeah this episode was tailor made for me specifically. We are back on Tattoine, we get Boba Fett's armor, we get a giant monster to fight, and then we get literally Boba Fett at the very end. I'm quite happy lol
I knew right away that was Fett's armor, but that it didn't seem like him because of how ill-fitting the armor felt. I thought they were gonna keep whether Fett was alive questionable for a lot longer, that perhaps he would eventually show up as a plot point much later in the season or even for a future season, but that he's going to be involved is awesome. That we could eventually get a Mando vs Mando fight or a Mando/Fett teamup or even both has me pretty excited.
I was a little surprised to see the Krayt Dragon. As soon as the ground shook and that they were in some small town, I joked it was Tremors, but then it actually ends up being Tremors, which I kinda love. I feel like they changed the lore for them abit, as looking it up, there are two subspecies of them, one being the kind I remember from Star Wars Galaxies back in the day, which were just giant four legged lizards with horns. Then there are Greater Krayt Dragons, which from description sound more like a sand swimming Plesiosaurus with a bunch of legs. They don't show that in this episode, comes across more like a giant worm, hence the Tremor comparison. Either way, this was a badass monster for sure.
The whole story for this episode is solid, though it doesn't deal much with the overarching story about Baby Yoda too much, which I'm sure could be seen as a small negative of the episode, but yeah I'm all in on this new season for sure.
I thought the part where they actually killed the Krayt Dragon could have been done better.
I am glad they got the actor that played Jango to play Boba Fett.
I thought the part where they actually killed the Krayt Dragon could have been done better.
I am glad they got the actor that played Jango to play Boba Fett.
I was happy enough with it, blowing the creature up from the inside is a pretty tried and true method lol. I'm also glad they got him to play Boba since it makes sense for him to look like that being a clone and its cool to bring him back to the series like this.
- Timothy Olyphant!
While I enjoyed the new Mando episode, it's starting to feel a little "Monster of the Week", which would be otherwise fine in a longer running show, but for a season that is only going to have 8 episodes, two of them haven't really involved much of the main plot.
While I enjoyed the new Mando episode, it's starting to feel a little "Monster of the Week", which would be otherwise fine in a longer running show, but for a season that is only going to have 8 episodes, two of them haven't really involved much of the main plot.
We had this discussion last season I think (I definitely had it last season, just maybe not with you), but I'm all for the standalone stuff. Give me "Tales of the Mando" all day erryday. Though, honestly, and this is a shock even to me, because I adore Amy Sedaris, but I don't like Peli Motto that much - I think it's mostly just the character design, though.
Loved the new episode, but then again, I'm easy to please when it comes to giving me more Mandalorians lol I didn't know Katie Sachoff was going to be in this. I guess she plays a character established in the cartoon that I didn't get to watching yet, but her design and that of Sasha Banks character are great. Apparently Katie Sachoff even voiced Bo-Katan in the original cartoon, so this is a cool way to bring her in, which doesn't normally get to happen (Kevin Conroy getting to be Bruce Wayne recently in the CW series was another notable one). More figures I'm likely to buy lolBo Katan is in the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoon. It was also nice to see a water planet with Mon Calimari and Quarren, though they should have been catching alien fish instead of Salmon lol. I recognized the Imperial officer from Sons of Anarchy I think.
Good episode in general going to a cool water world, filled with Mon Calamari and others, giving us a fishing village/sea vibe you don't usually see in Star Wars and hits home for me. On track for the main story as we'll be getting some Jedi in the next episode hopefully with Ahsoka making her live action appearance. Also cool to have Titus Welliver show up as an Imperial officer, I mostly know him from watching his show Bosch which I ended up binging last year I believe, though I know he's been in other shows to, that's just the most immediate one I remember.
Yeah, those were some great lore bombs in this episode - especially that Thrawn is still alive and a threat in the universe again (I don't know what happened to him in Rebels).
My big question about Grogu is, and I hope that we might get an answer one day, who saved him from the temple?
Interesting to see Grogu using his powers like he was, acting out in anger, it makes me wonder if him connecting with the force unlocked his memories and in turn more of his powers
I wonder what Jedi will show up to maybe help Grogu also.
Speaking of Cal Kestus...
I also think there is a not insignificant chance that it might be Mace Windu, having survived the fall in RotS. I would not be surprised if the rumored Nick Fury Disney+ series was a cover for this. That said, I'm not a fan of the idea. Having Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Mace survive the purge and never doing anything about the Empire rings very hollow to me.
Okay, I was not expecting a young Mark Hamill/Luke Skywalker to be the Jedi to show up at all. It mostly worked, a little better than Leia was in Rogue One, but it's also not the quite nailing it like the de-aged Michael Douglas and Robert Downey Jr. from the MCU movies. That being said, pretty badass if they are gonna make him a regular next season training Grogu alongside us assumingly seeing Mando go and help Bo-Katan with Mandalorian business.
Also getting a Boba Fett series mini-series (That's what I assume a lot of these Star Wars shows are going to be, maybe getting extended if they are popular enough), with him being a crime boss is cool. You kinda forget it with his appearance in this season, teaming up with Mando, that he is not a good guy at all, so getting to see him explored more is great as its what I always wanted to see with Boba. He was 100% style, no substance, so it's nice to get some substance and it was cool seeing that after Jabba's death that his advisor took over his crime syndicate lol