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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2024
« on: July 20, 2024, 02:56:16 am »
Duplicate for Star Wars Battlefront II for Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA]

Original: https://vgcollect.com/item/160400
Duplicate: https://vgcollect.com/item/204983


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: June 25, 2024, 04:50:14 pm »
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In general, if there is any reason to question information, the entry field information should be ignored altogether.

I can get down with this. Usually if I go into an "edit" for one thing, I definitely attempt to fill in in all the stuff I can find while I'm in there, but there are certainly times where even the "official" sources seem a bit untrustworthy on certain data points.

 And I think just leaving it empty is the nice balance between "well this is what the official source says, but it seems inaccurate" versus "this is our best guess based on our own research/context, but there's no way to be sure." And in the end, lots of that data isn't super important for just documenting a collection in the grand scheme of things.

Thanks for all your insight :)

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: June 24, 2024, 10:42:15 pm »
Re: Rejected "Release Date" Edit to `BLACK` in the Xbox 360 Game Store:

I updated Black - Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA] to add the release date as seen in the official Xbox 360 Game Store listed here: https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-us/Product/BLACK/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802454109fd.

As can be seen on the official Xbox 360 Games Store listing, it lists June 11, 2019 as the Release Date in the Xbox 360 Game Store.

Both
  • in the Overview (Original release date: 6/11/2019)
  • AND on the game listing (Release date: 6/11/2019)

However, the edit rejection mentions the 2008 date seen on the link to https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/black/BTCS0LP052HL which is for Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S (which is not what this listing was for).

This is an odd title in that it is an original 6th gen game, released for the original XBox and PS2 back in 2006. And then made available digitally on the 7th, 8th, and 9th gens digitally later. So obviously "2019" is not the most accurate date for the original version of this game. It even felt a bit odd for a date so late on the 360 marketplace seeing that is 3 generations back and 2019 was well past its relevant timeframe. And the 2008 date on the XBone listing also makes no sense considering that console didn't even exist yet. So definitely an odd situation. But the 2019 date was listed twice on the page specifically dedicated to the digital 360 listing of this game.

Based on the rejection from the admin, am I to start using the Xbox One/Xbox Series X|S listings for all the info for the Xbox 360 versions? Or are we to just not use info from the official Xbox 360 source if it seems "off" in any way? I just don't know what I'm supposed to do here. I occasionally get rejections for genres and other data grabbed directly from the source in these cases, and would appreciate some direction.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: June 20, 2024, 03:01:23 pm »
Before I edit this entry (Zeit² - https://vgcollect.com/item/34038), I want to make sure it follows the style guide:

It currently is listed as "Zeit Squared" on VG Collect, but of course the official title is "Zeit²" as seen on the official Xbox Marketplace Listing and on the box art.

Is the ² exponent allowed in an Item Name?
Or Does the ² exponent count as a "symbol" where a standard alphanumeric should be used in its place (e.g. "Zeit²" should be named "Zeit2" in VG Collect)?
Or is the current spelling ² out as it would be spoken ("Squared") the correct format?

I was planning on editing it to the more official exponent option, but I wanted to be certain it was following the style guide.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: June 19, 2024, 10:19:55 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/76487

The "Gold Edition" of Resident Evil 5 was never released on the digital XBox 360 Gamestore, and all the images on this listing are of the physical disc game. This listing seems to be a mistake.


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2021
« on: May 15, 2021, 05:36:30 pm »
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater (Nintendo 64 [NA])

-Original: https://vgcollect.com/item/5174
-Dupe: https://vgcollect.com/item/189128


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
« on: May 04, 2021, 12:47:06 pm »
I recently updated the Box Art for this listing: Sonic The Hedgehog (Alt-Name: Sonic 2006) (Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA]), and the edit was rejected.

There are 2 "Sonic the Hedgehog" releases on the North American Xbox Live:


As you can see, the Sonic 2006 listing has the incorrect Box Art (looks like someone uploaded the incorrect art back on 08-26-2019, and it was approved).
I tried to update it to be accurate (and to prevent confusion, since as of now it looks like 2 duplicates of the classic game port at a glance, and the alt-name is the only way to tell this is "Sonic 2006" version of "Sonic The Hedgehog")

Is there a way to get the art updated to the correct version for "Sonic 2006" and it be approved this time?


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2021
« on: April 22, 2021, 06:02:21 pm »




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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
« on: December 11, 2020, 03:43:39 pm »
Quote from: tripredacus on December 11, 2020, 03:25:07 pm
Clean is not descriptive enough and it is also a fan term in relation to this game. It is a term to be read as "doesn't have the thing the other version has" and we do not want to be referring to other versions on an entry, at least in this case. So to indicate that the one has a devil on the cover is better, than to have one be marked as "doesn't have a devil on the cover" type of descriptor.

Thanks for the clarification. I thought it might be related to something along those lines, especially based on the Style Guide usually desiring something different ON the cover being included in the descriptor, as opposed to something different NOT ON the cover. So I assume a descriptor like "(censored)" or anything along those lines would fall into the same camp? Especially since we don't have any "proof" that's why the variant exists, and only have evidence of Wal-Mart receipts and Wal-Mart devil/demon censorship guidelines of the time.

It makes sense in that technical way, even if it does feel a bit "off" to add descriptors to the standard release and none to the the more oddball variants. I personally got confused when I saw the updated titles and forgot which was the standard release for a bit until I googled it a bunch, which made me reach out for clarification.

Quote from: tripredacus on December 11, 2020, 03:25:07 pm
Also, using the term "variant" in an item title will be rejected unless that word actually exists on the item.

I saw that in the style guide and also assumed as much simply based on existing descriptors already on site. So I avoided a "generic" descriptor like that.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
« on: December 11, 2020, 02:56:38 pm »
Back in 2018, I added the very rare Speed Devils "Clean" Variant for the North American Sega Dreamcast: https://vgcollect.com/item/151251


Originally, the standard release was simply named Speed Devils (as is expected), and I named my new variant Speed Devils (clean cover) according to the style guide.

However, I see earlier this year that Admin tripredacus updated the names of both games, changing the variant to simply Speed Devils, and changing the standard release to Speed Devils (devil cover).

This seems odd to me, since I'd think we'd want to highlight the much less common variants and releases with descriptors, and leave the standard release with the standard title.

Was this simply an oversight? If I re-edit the "clean variant" to add a descriptor in parentheses, will it be rejected? Since the Admin was the one who made these changes to both titles, I assume they are the expert and would not want to attempt to overwrite their change, but since it feels "off" I wanted to double check first.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« on: January 16, 2020, 11:06:51 am »
Quote from: tripredacus on December 31, 2019, 11:19:15 am
I didn't see the edit, so I am not sure of the reason. It is possible that you provide too much exposition, or the db admin thought the description was lifted from another site. One indication of this would be to use the game's title in the description, or if copyright/trademark symbols were present in the text.

A description like this is something we are looking for:
"Was removed from Xbox Live service on December 30, 2014"

Thanks, I did not lift the text or copy/paste a description from anywhere else. It was my own description of when and why it was removed from the online stores. I'll use a more casual tone this time.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« on: December 30, 2019, 10:15:49 pm »
I had tried to update the (currently NA) Description of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game with info on the availability of this Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA] title. Considering it was removed from the Games Store on December 30, 2014 due to the licensing expiring, and is no longer available to anyone (especially since the digital download format was the only format it was released in). This seems like a very relevant and fitting detail to add to the Description field, considering it's exactly what the Description is for, as per the Style Guide:

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The Description field should be notes about the games packaging variants/ pack ins/ collector's edition details. Or trivia about the games release, such as if it is a launch title, last title, a very limited release,  etc. This should not be filled with store descriptions describing the gameplay or hyping up the title. Plagiarizing descriptions from other sources will not be tolerated and will be deleted.

However my change was rejected for incorrect formatting, and I was directed to the Style Guide. Considering the Style Guide mentions to include exactly those details, it seems I must be missing something...

Since my Description was rejected, the notification text is truncated, but this is the (truncated) text I provided:

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As December 30, 2014, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: The Game is no long...

I'm not sure why this info would be rejected from the one field it seems it is possible and relevant to include it in...

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Description Rejected for 'Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game'
« on: December 30, 2019, 10:14:33 pm »
Thanks, I could've sworn there was a thread for these questions, but must've totally overlooked it.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Description Rejected for 'Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game'
« on: December 28, 2019, 11:45:48 am »
I had tried to update the (currently NA) Description of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game with info on the availability of this Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA] title. Considering it was removed from the Games Store on December 30, 2014 due to the licensing expiring, and is no longer available to anyone (especially since the digital download format was the only format it was released in). This seems like a very relevant and fitting detail to add to the Description field, considering it's exactly what the Description is for, as per the Style Guide:

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The Description field should be notes about the games packaging variants/ pack ins/ collector's edition details. Or trivia about the games release, such as if it is a launch title, last title, a very limited release,  etc. This should not be filled with store descriptions describing the gameplay or hyping up the title. Plagiarizing descriptions from other sources will not be tolerated and will be deleted.

However my change was rejected for incorrect formatting, and I was directed to the Style Guide. Considering the Style Guide mentions to include exactly those details, it seems I must be missing something...

Since my Description was rejected, the notification text is truncated, but this is the (truncated) text I provided:

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As December 30, 2014, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: The Game is no long...

I'm not sure why this info would be rejected from the one field it seems it is possible and relevant to include it in...

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2018
« on: January 24, 2018, 04:31:28 pm »
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X HD Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA]

Original: https://vgcollect.com/item/25894
Duplicate: https://vgcollect.com/item/28573


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