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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: August 17, 2020, 09:06:54 am »
The Fizz Factor (developer)
https://www.mobygames.com/company/fizz-factor
https://vgcollect.com/item/3804 <- Publisher and developer mixed up. Publisher "The Fizz Factor" can probably be deleted from the data base.
https://vgcollect.com/item/116764
https://vgcollect.com/item/184696
https://vgcollect.com/item/26270 (Together with Griptonite)
https://vgcollect.com/item/53302
https://vgcollect.com/item/26026
https://vgcollect.com/item/142114
https://vgcollect.com/item/4684 (Together with Inevitable Entertainment)
https://vgcollect.com/item/124864 (Together with Inevitable Entertainment)


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2020
« on: August 17, 2020, 08:28:37 am »
X-Men Origins: Wolverine - Uncaged Edition [EU] PS3
https://vgcollect.com/item/76233
https://vgcollect.com/item/57594


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Developer/Publisher Requests
« on: August 02, 2020, 01:29:59 pm »
"EA DICE" is short for "EA Digital Illusions CE" which is already in the database.
Thought since they seem to mostly use shortened version of their name maybe we should use it too to avoid confusion.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2020
« on: June 25, 2020, 07:51:27 am »
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty [EU] PS2
https://vgcollect.com/item/127430
https://vgcollect.com/item/68475


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As my quest to add all V.Smile games and consoles that quick google or Wikipedia search could procure comes to a close, it's came to my attention there is still couple of V.Tech products that are not listed on this site. At least with one of these it's place on this site is a bit questionable matter, so I thought it's better to ask first if these should be added and if so under which categories.

1. VTech V.Baby https://www.vtechkids.com/assets/data/products/%7BF0202E29-A1E9-44FF-BDEF-C422B6F2EECC%7D/manuals/80-107100-V.Baby%20Infant%20Development%20System.pdf
Not to be confused with "VTech V.Smile Baby" https://vgcollect.com/item/180900
Seems to be follow up system to previously mentioned and uses same colored orange carts to VTech V.Motion (could they have be any more confusing).
I could only find four games to this system from which three of them were releases on their older consoles as well. 
I would probably just add these to V.Smile category and if V.Smile Baby (not inter-compatible with other V.Smile product for some dumb reason) will ever be separated to it's own category, move this with it.

2. VTech V.Reader https://www.vtechkids.com/brands/brand_view/vreader
This is the product I mostly think might be better off from this site as it is i an e-reader instead of dedicated gaming platform.
On other hand these e-books seem to have some mini games on them.
I did quick google search in case we add this and found at least 25 e-books/games/software for this platform.

3. VTech InnoTab (1-3) https://www.vtechkids.com/brands/brand_page/innotab_family
This is probably follow up to V.Reader but instead of just being e-reader this is a fully functional tablet.
As this is current gen product software shop is still running so no need to hunt down games one by one: https://www.vtechkids.com/product/advanced_search/keyword:innotabsoftware
As for category, this console clearly doesn't have much common with V.Smile family of consoles instead sharing games with VTech MobiGo platform we already have in database: https://vgcollect.com/browse/mobigo
Should we merge these platforms to one big mess as we did with V.Smile (including: V.Smile, V.Smile: V.Motion, V.Smile: Pocket, V.Smile: Cyber Pocket, V.Smile Baby and V.Flash) or make new category for this console?

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2020
« on: June 12, 2020, 07:26:12 pm »
Shrek the Third: Arthur's School Day Adventure
https://vgcollect.com/item/180426
https://vgcollect.com/item/47724

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2020
« on: June 10, 2020, 06:42:27 pm »

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I found one more V.Tech product (comes in two colors): V.Reader: https://www.vtechkids.com/brands/brand_view/vreader
It's e-reader for kids that seem to have some edutainment mini games on e-book cartridges. Bit of a borderline case if it should be added to database.
It's called "Storio" in Spain
There doesn't seem to be good database of V.Reader "games" so I listi all I come across here, in case we add the system:

V.Reader "Games":  Dora and the Three Little Pigs
                                Mickey Mouse Clubhouse
                                Scooby-Doo! Scooby-Doo and a Mummy, Too!
                                SpongeBob SquarePants: Model Sponge
                                Tangled
                                Whats That Noise?
                                Toy Story 3
                                Cars 2
                                Disney Fairies
                                Disney Princess
                                Super Why Attack of the Eraser
                                Tinkerbell
                                Madagascar: Penguins: The Helmet
                                Cars Toon: Tokyo Matter
                                Hello Kitty's Suprise
                                Shrek's Vacation
                                Olivia Takes Ballet
                                Madagascar 3
                                Mr Messy and Missing Sock
                                THE LITTLE ENGINE THAT COULD
                                Chuggington: Babysitter Brewster
                                Kung Fu Panda 2
                                Sesame Street: Happy Scientist
                                Winnie The Pooh
                                Dinosaur train

And make it two. V.Baby: https://www.vtechkids.com/assets/data/products/%7BF0202E29-A1E9-44FF-BDEF-C422B6F2EECC%7D/manuals/80-107100-V.Baby%20Infant%20Development%20System.pdf
This seems to be follow up console for V.Tech Baby. Games seem to be orange cartridges similar to V.Motion cartridges. Luckily the packaging is at least unique: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/362891682452658440/

V.Baby games: The Very Hungry Caterpillar
                        Backyardigans: Big Backyard Adventure
                        Mother Goose
                        Noah's Ark Animal Adventures

And then Three. Inno Tab (and all of it's derivates) https://www.vtechkids.com/brands/brand_page/innotab_family
Seems to be follow up to V.Reader
Games: https://www.vtechkids.com/product/advanced_search/keyword:innotabsoftware

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V.Smile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V.Flash

This ended up becoming a little bit off topic but hopefully some of this info is helpful. 

List of V.Smile console variants I found. Please contribute if you know any I missed.

1. Original color scheme Orange/Purple bundled with a Winnie the Pooh game - https://vgcollect.com/item/43709
2. Same colors but with blue lid: https://vgcollect.com/item/180861
2. Second color scheme Pink/Purple bundled with a Cinderella game - https://vgcollect.com/item/65917
3. Much later  Red/Blue bundled with a Scooby-Doo game - Found!!! (but pack in game is different) https://wwhttps://vgcollect.com/item/180872
4. and Red/Silver with the same Scooby-Doo game - Picture found!!! Unfortunately it isn't on linkable page but I uploaded pic of it to my gallery https://vgcollect.com/item/180874
5. Translucent-faced V.Smile TV Learning System Limited Edition console with Alphabet Park Adventure game was launched in 2008 - https://vgcollect.com/item/180858
6. Inverted standard:   https://vgcollect.com/item/180862
7: Yellow https://vgcollect.com/item/180857


Second generation can be identified easily by bigger lid on top of console
A second generation V.Smile console with a microphone and a graphics tablet launched  in 2007

8. Standard: https://vgcollect.com/item/180877
9. Blue: https://vgcollect.com/item/180878
10. Red: https://vgcollect.com/item/180879
 


V.Smile Pocket (Handheld version of VSmile)

11. Originally Orange/Purple https://www.ebay.com/p/7019372064
12. Later Pink/Purple https://www.amazon.com/VTech-V-Smile-Pocket-Pink/dp/B000F1HJGM

Second generation V.Smile Pocket with microphone can be identified by different location of speaker grill
13. standard:  https://www.amazon.ca/Vtech-V-Smile-Pocket-Learning-System/dp/B000PX0DNG
14. pink: http://edurisklearning.org/product/vtech-v-smile-pocket-learning-system-pink/
15. Purple: https://www.adverts.ie/educational-toys/vtech-v-smile-pocket-learning-system-with-2-games/1992106

Third generation added a graphics tablet and USB to connect PC and was called V.Smile Cyber Pocket
16. Purple: https://www.amazon.com/VTech-80-040541-V-Smile-Cyber-Pocket/dp/B0015ZZZUO
17. Pink/Purple: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pink-V-Smile-Cyber-Pocket-Game-Learning-System-Tested-Works-Vtech-W-Zayzoo-Game-/293123872544
18. Pink/red: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vtech-smile-cyber-pocket-pink-zayzoo-127915753
19. Red: https://www.todocoleccion.net/videojuegos-y-consolas/v-smile-smile-cyber-pocket-aprendizaje-interactivo-v-tech-consola-infantil-portatil-juego~x112640706
20. Blue: https://picclick.com/VTech-V-Smile-Cyber-Pocket-Hand-Held-Learning-System-254531312718.html




PC Pal (Version of V.Smile with built in Smart Keyboard accessory)

21. Standard: https://vgcollect.com/item/180341
22. Pink: https://vgcollect.com/item/180342




V-Motion (V.Smile with motion tracking)

23. Standard: https://vgcollect.com/item/43787
24. Pink/Purple: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/pink-vtech-smile-motion-active-496868987
25. Pink: https://www.walmart.com/ip/V-Smile-V-Motion-Active-Learning-System-Pink/12482906
26. Red: https://www.puppentoys.com/Cars-VSmile-Motion-Console-VTECH



V.Smile Baby (V.Smile for babies)
27. Orange https://www.amazon.ca/Vtech-V-Smile-Infant-Development-System/dp/B000EQGSXS
28. Blue https://www.popscreen.com/prod/MTA4NzQ3MjQ4/VTECH-VSMILE-BABY-INFANT-DEVELOPMEHT-SYSTEM-+-BONUS-eBay




VTech V.Smile Pro (V.Flash in USA) - Uses optical media instead of cartridges and is not called V.Smile in US so might need its own category.
29. Standard: https://www.amazon.co.uk/VTech-Class-Smile-Educational-Console/dp/B000SQ7D6A
30. pink: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/732890539334653965/


V.Smile Accessories:

1. V Smile TV Learning System Plus Joystick
  -standard: https://vgcollect.com/item/180796
  -pink: https://vgcollect.com/item/180797
2. V Smile Smart Keyboard: https://vgcollect.com/item/180435
                                            https://vgcollect.com/item/180434
                                            https://vgcollect.com/item/180433
                                            https://vgcollect.com/item/180432
                                            https://vgcollect.com/item/180431
3. V Smile Smartbook: https://vgcollect.com/item/180392
4. V Smile Art Studio: https://vgcollect.com/item/180549
                                  https://vgcollect.com/item/180550                     
                                  https://vgcollect.com/item/180551
                                  https://vgcollect.com/item/180553
5. V.Smile V-Link: https://vgcollect.com/item/180798
6. V Smile Jammin' Gym Class: https://vgcollect.com/item/43711


Games according to Wikipedia:
V.Smile: 69 with some having upgraded versions for additional V-Motion functionality
V.Smile Baby: 12
V.Flash/V.Smile Pro: 10




Progress:
V.Smile games DONE
V.Smile Baby games DONE
V.Smile Accessories DONE
V.Flash/V.Smile Pro  DONE
Consoles DONE (Though I gave up on listing all d-pad variants on handheld systems)
Noticed that we were also missing V.Tech MobiGo variants so added them too


Notes:
-Most of these games probably have [UK] versions but since console is region free and only difference I have spotted is small area code at the bottom left corner of cartridge I won't be trying to hunt them down for all releases and I make entries only the ones I come across by chance.
-If there is Alphabet Park Adventure re-releases (AKA we lost the license so we remove the licensed characters) outside US I couldn't find them. US Re-release: https://vgcollect.com/item/179987
-Cars: Rev It Up In Radiator Springs should have limited edition release according to Wikipedia but as I couldn't find any pictures I didn't add it. Same with V Motion versions in these countries: [PT][ES][IT][DK][SE][NO][FI].
-With cars 2 US had different releases for handheld and console whereas [FR] and [DE] had combined these. It would be interesting to test US handheld cart on console or vise versa.
-Found 2007 re-release not listed in Wikipedia. As above I'm not adding V.Motion version or Re-release for countries I can't find picture.
-Dora the Explorer: Dora's Fix-it Adventure Couldn't find [PT] V.Motion version
-Handy Manny [PT] and [ES] standard missing
-Little Einsteins [FR] V.Motion missing
-Mickey Mouse Clubhouse [PT] V.Motion missing
-Monsters vs. Aliens [US] Standard missing
-My Pet Puppy Scandinavian V.Motion missing (I'm starting to suspect that V.Motion wasn't released in Scandinavia or Portugal)
-Princess and the Frog, The: Tiana's Big Dream [ES]  subtitle illegible from pictures I found. All EU standards missing
-Scooby-Doo!: Funland Frenzy V.Motion version missing from all but [US] and [FR]
-Soccer Challenge [UK], [PT], [NL], [DE] no V. Motion version.
-Spider-Man & Friends: Secret Missions [PT] V. Motion version not found, found [UK] version, Three different US standard versions
-SpongeBob SquarePants: A Day in the Life of a Sponge [US][ES] V.Motion missing
-Super Why: The Beach Day Mystery Split release with different console and handheld packaging
-Thomas & Friends: Engines Working Together [FR] V.Motion missing
-Tinker Bell [PT] This time standard missing so [PT] V.Motion exist
-Toy Story 2: Operation Rescue Woody Limited edition cart missing
-Wonder Pets!: Save The Animals! Wikipedia list this as V.Motion exclusive but I found standard edition
-Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!: Attack of the 50 Foot Fleegle V.Motion not found
-Baby Einstein: World of Discoveries [DE] probably exist as there were links for it in .de websites but unfortunately all the links were already dead or had stock images from other territories.
-Discovery With Baby Mickey & Friends [ES][DE] probably exist as there is Amazon listings for them but unfortunately they use stock images.
-Learn & Discover Home, There seems to be three different cart variants. Might some have been pack in titles or [UK] edition?
-Handheld systems seem to have a lot d-pad color variants. Too many for me to hunt down so someone else can do it if they care.

Cart color index:
Purple: Standard
Translucent purple: Limited Edition
Orange: V-Motion
Red: Smartbook
Yellow: Jammin' Gym Class/PC Pal/Smart Keyboard
Grey: Sun damaged purple carts???
Blue: Probably pack in game for limited color scheme Scooby-Doo console???
Pink: Spider-Man: Secret missions (Strange color choice for limited edition spider-man or strange pack in game for girls console???)


When I get to V.Flash games do I add them to V.Smile category or is new category needed? 

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I did some research and my console is probably refurbished with Model I bottom and Model II top. This would explain serial number and button mismatch.
Saturn serial number database had only three consoles with ST starting serial numbers all with mismatched components.
http://evilboris.sonic-cult.net/saturn/index.php?&sortby=hw_key&page=85
This would suggest that these serial numbers were used for refurbished PAL consoles.

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My Sega Saturn has Model No. MK-80200-50. Quick google search shows that this model number should be for PAL Model I consoles but my console is clearly model II (grey buttons etc.).
My console is made in Taiwan and its Serial number is ST 75100869 whereas example of Model I, I found from catawiki is made in Indonesia and has Serial number AD51151460:
https://www.catawiki.com/l/36864923-sega-saturn-console-with-4-games-video-games
This seems to indicate Model No. of Sega Saturn doesn't actually indicate actual Model of console.

We already have entry for Model I MK-80200-50 Saturn: https://vgcollect.com/item/9926

Should I make another entry for Model II MK-80200-50?

If so should the name be "Sega Saturn Model II (MK-80200-50)"?

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