If you don't mind me asking you guys this question about Sony aka Soyny

[hoshichiri]

Yeah, I looked into this supposed censorship via YouTube and it basically amounts to that. Although, there was one example in Devil May Cry where they chose to remove some partial nudity from a cut scene as well. Don't know if this is proving to benefit Sony in the end, or not, but it does come a somewhat of a surprise to see them choosing to moderate content rather than Nintendo. I will say though, that once again it only demonstrates the western mentality of sex being obscene, while gratuitous violence will get a pass. Remember how up in arms America was over Grand Theft Auto having a hidden sex scene in the game? Think of the children.... playing M rated games.

Oh yeah, it's definitely dumb- what, they really think some mom's gonna see Senran Kagura Peach Ball and go 'yep! That's perfect for lil Timmy!'

I just attribute it to regular ol' corporate dumb instead of some malicious attempt to drive away a large chunk of their customer base.

[oldgamerz]

I don't agree with the removal of partial nudity, (especially in a Teen or Mature rated video game) and what does a child do when they see partial nudity anyway? chances are they won't even care. But sex on the other hand I mean "Gran Theft Auto" is rated "M" for mature it should be expected in an M rated video game, M is targeted at young adults and older. The west overreacts too much.

For those who are adults don't want to see any nudity. can't the developed just give the option to skip the cut scenes? or just play a different video game?

But I don't even play games with nudity in them so, It don't matter to me because and I don't watch porn, so

[ancestralspirit]

Personally i think a lot of censorship is due to hypocrisy on a lot of company's parts.

I will prefix what i'm about to type by saying:
I play 18+ Japanese porn games
I play western games like GTA, 1st person shooters etc
I play japanese games like Neptunia, Star Ocean etc
I play pretty much anything and everything regardless of age rating, and genre

Let's take a games like Neptunia RPG as an example of a japanese game that has been censored.
Neptunia RPG was censored on Playstation but not Switch.
Sony's reasoning for this was something along the lines of the usual things we see 'they LOOK like children' and 'we didn't feel the scene was NECESSARY to keep without censoring'.

Now let's take a game like The Order 1886
This game is an 18+ rated game and has full frontal nudity. However this seems to be fine when a company wants to put out a game that uses arguably photo realistic graphics.

For those confused as to what Sony removed from Neptunia RPG.
They removed cleavage, (not full frontal breasts) where all the characters were covering their chests to begin with.
And they cropped an image of one of the characters playing a game with her legs crossed and you could see her underwear.
The part i don't understand is that both Nintendo and Sony have given Neptunia RPG an age rating on 12+ at least in the EU.

The point i'm trying to make here is that PEGI system didn't need to change the age rating for the game on either console, despite Sony going through the lengths to have their version censored.
So why did Sony even bother?
If the game was going to get the 12+ age rating anyway, why did they feel the need to crop off images and censor things?
Self censorship. Pointless self censorship at that.

However games like GTA 5, The Order 1886 and a plethora of other western games get 16+ and 18+ ratings with anything and everything they want added in. However god forbid we have a 'cartoon character' that LOOKS like a child have her panties showing.

I've made this argument before, but if someone LOOKS like a child does that mean that they aren't allowed to do adult things even if they're of age?
When i was 19 i got stopped from buying scissors at a WHSmith because i didn't LOOK over 14, this was despite me having identification in the form of a passport.
Does this also mean i shouldn't be allowed to drink, have sex or smoke because i LOOKED young. No, no it doesn't.
Sorry if i get a little heated on this topic, but i've been stopped doing a lot of things because i LOOK a certain way. My bf used to get funny looks from people because they thought he was dating a minor, when really i was in my early to mid 20's and he was in his early 30's.
What i'm getting at is just because someone LOOKS a certain way, doesn't mean that they ARE a certain way.

Japanese art styles in anime, is a contentious topic for a lot of people, and i understand that.
You're right, at times they do look like children doing adult things.
But A: they may not be and they just look young
And B: they're cartoon drawings that don't look like real people.

Now i;m not saying Sony should bring 18+ Japanes porn games to their console and neither should Nintendo, but what i am saying is that a lot of problems lie with self censorship out of fear of backlash, and i don't think that should happen with art, music or gaming.

[98dgreen]

I've made this argument before, but if someone LOOKS like a child does that mean that they aren't allowed to do adult things even if they're of age?
When i was 19 i got stopped from buying scissors at a WHSmith because i didn't LOOK over 14, this was despite me having identification in the form of a passport.

Where is this place where 14 year olds can't buy scissors?