Author Topic: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020  (Read 24050 times)

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #360 on: November 16, 2020, 10:35:52 am »
Each of those have text "Xbox 360" on them. "Includes Xbox 360 and Xbox Original versions"

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #361 on: November 18, 2020, 01:27:18 pm »
I made some changes and they all got declined... I kind of figured they would, so I'll post some listings with complaints mostly because they are inconsistent and inconsistent via tripredacus.

New Play Control games.  Two different naming styles.  Personally, I think the [Title Name] (New Play Control!) is the way to go, but whatever, it's inconsistent.
https://vgcollect.com/item/15851
https://vgcollect.com/item/27033
https://vgcollect.com/item/27034

These I think are a remnant of the short period of time where games with accessories were thrown in the accessory category instead of the game category.
Nintendo Wii [Something]  The things are not called "Nintendo Wii Fit" or "Nintendo Wii Play", they are Wii Fit and Wii Play, as shown in their individual title listings.  Wii Play shouldn't be listed as Wii Remote - Wii Play, Wii Play is the item, the Wii Remote is the bundled extra, you don't call Skyward Sword with the soundtrack "25th Anniversary Music CD - Legend of Zelda, The: Skyward Sword".  Also doesn't make sense to just call them "Wii Fit" and "Wii Play" because there is the stand alone games and the game bundles.  Obviously what I chose was not the "correct" title, but they are obviously wrongly named as current.  Seems like they should be "Wii Fit (Balance Board Bundle)" and "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)"  Using the Descriptor section instead of the Edition section because these aren't "editions" as such.
https://vgcollect.com/item/17135
https://vgcollect.com/item/4832

« Last Edit: November 19, 2020, 10:06:08 am by tripredacus »


tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #362 on: November 19, 2020, 10:05:52 am »
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #363 on: November 19, 2020, 10:32:54 am »
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.
Okay, but obviously Nintendo Wii Fit isn't the right name.  Wii Fit is also not the right name either because the stand alone entry is listed that way.  So what should its name be?  "Wii Fit (Balance Board)" "Wii Fit (with Balance Board)"?

I see that I submitted "Wii Play - Bonus Wii Remote" instead of "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)".  Resubmitted with correct(?) name.

Also, strong disagree on your statement regarding Wii Fit being an accessory with a game.  It's not marketed or advertised as Wii Balance Board w/Wii Fit... it is Wii Fit with the Wii Balance Board.

It's not like Link's Crossbow Training and the Wii Zapper, which definitely is advertised and marketed as the Wii Zapper with Link's crossbow training... which as I can see on the site we have treated as a game with an accessory, so even the logic of accessory with a game doesn't fly either.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2020, 10:38:44 am by ignition365 »


tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #364 on: November 19, 2020, 10:41:10 am »
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.
Okay, but obviously Nintendo Wii Fit isn't the right name.  Wii Fit is also not the right name either because the stand alone entry is listed that way.  So what should its name be?  "Wii Fit (Balance Board)" "Wii Fit (with Balance Board)"?

I see that I submitted "Wii Play - Bonus Wii Remote" instead of "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)".  Resubmitted with correct(?) name.

Nintendo Wii Fit is the correct name. All hardware and accessories should have the manufacturer first in the name, even if it is an accessory that is in a game category.

For games, hyphen is only for edition or pack notation, not a descriptor. Descriptor should have box text or physical/visual description. So a box text descriptor such as "Bonus Wii Remote" is not valid to use the hyphen, and is correct to use as (Bonus Wii Remote).

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #365 on: November 19, 2020, 10:44:28 am »
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.
Okay, but obviously Nintendo Wii Fit isn't the right name.  Wii Fit is also not the right name either because the stand alone entry is listed that way.  So what should its name be?  "Wii Fit (Balance Board)" "Wii Fit (with Balance Board)"?

I see that I submitted "Wii Play - Bonus Wii Remote" instead of "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)".  Resubmitted with correct(?) name.

Nintendo Wii Fit is the correct name. All hardware and accessories should have the manufacturer first in the name, even if it is an accessory that is in a game category.

For games, hyphen is only for edition or pack notation, not a descriptor. Descriptor should have box text or physical/visual description. So a box text descriptor such as "Bonus Wii Remote" is not valid to use the hyphen, and is correct to use as (Bonus Wii Remote).
Again, Wii Fit isn't an accessory.  The Balance Board is an accessory.  So it can be Nintendo Balance Board (Wii Fit) if you want, but that still doesn't make sense.

Wii Fit (Nintendo Balance Board) makes more sense.


tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #366 on: November 19, 2020, 10:49:24 am »
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.
Okay, but obviously Nintendo Wii Fit isn't the right name.  Wii Fit is also not the right name either because the stand alone entry is listed that way.  So what should its name be?  "Wii Fit (Balance Board)" "Wii Fit (with Balance Board)"?

I see that I submitted "Wii Play - Bonus Wii Remote" instead of "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)".  Resubmitted with correct(?) name.

Nintendo Wii Fit is the correct name. All hardware and accessories should have the manufacturer first in the name, even if it is an accessory that is in a game category.

For games, hyphen is only for edition or pack notation, not a descriptor. Descriptor should have box text or physical/visual description. So a box text descriptor such as "Bonus Wii Remote" is not valid to use the hyphen, and is correct to use as (Bonus Wii Remote).
Again, Wii Fit isn't an accessory.  The Balance Board is an accessory.  So it can be Nintendo Balance Board (Wii Fit) if you want, but that still doesn't make sense.

Wii Fit (Nintendo Balance Board) makes more sense.

I see what you mean. Wii Fit (Wii Balance Board) would work.
EDIT: it has to be a game with an accessory. The text "Wii Balance Board" is from the top of the box.

pzeke

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #367 on: November 21, 2020, 06:50:38 am »
This entry and this one are the same; the Mysteries of the Sith comes bundled with Dark Forces II.

Quote
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II - GOG.com

Star Wars™ Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II includes Star Wars™ Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II and Star Wars™ Jedi Knight - Mysteries of the Sith.

Technically speaking the original entry—82105—is the dupe

« Last Edit: November 23, 2020, 11:12:56 am by tripredacus »

VGCollect: Hypocrisy Unbound

pzeke

« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 12:08:41 am by aliensstudios »

VGCollect: Hypocrisy Unbound

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #369 on: November 22, 2020, 03:20:20 am »
I submitted a corrected cart image for "Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle 2, The - Players Choice" and it was rejected on the grounds that the information was already on file:

https://vgcollect.com/item/51822

However the current cart image is the original cart and not the Player's Choice cart which I submitted, so it is still wrong.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2020, 11:15:01 am by tripredacus »

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #370 on: November 23, 2020, 11:15:37 am »
Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle 2
- removed cart pic
- fixed item numbers
- removed trade symbols from box text

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #371 on: November 24, 2020, 05:01:39 am »
Rejected Edit:

Evolution: The World of Sacred Device
Sega Dreamcast [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/85864

Current back image is of the French/Italian/Dutch release
https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/evolution-the-world-of-sacred-device/cover-art/gameCoverId,174115/

English EU release is:
https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/evolution-the-world-of-sacred-device/cover-art/gameCoverId,64365/

Back image in use would require another entry with TLD's
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 10:18:03 am by tripredacus »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #372 on: November 24, 2020, 05:10:35 am »
Rejected edit:

Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle
Sega Mega Drive [AU]

Alt-Name is not 'Bonus' just because its on the back instead of a barcode
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 10:19:02 am by tripredacus »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #373 on: November 24, 2020, 05:14:00 am »
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
PlayStation 3 [AU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/26234

Barcode is for a platinum release, no cover or other information supplied.
Edited entries to be correct by the title of just 'Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood', but all were rejected
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 10:20:23 am by tripredacus »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2020
« Reply #374 on: November 24, 2020, 05:30:53 am »

Question regarding editing posts.

What is the order to consider priority of the information on an entry before editing to correct or adding other entries for variants?

Would it be: Image > Title > Data
e.g. Title of entry should be changed to match the image and data to follow?
I thought Title would be first then changes made to match, just want to clarify for further entries to save time.