Author Topic: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024  (Read 18052 times)

sworddude

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #180 on: October 25, 2024, 06:39:52 pm »
I tried to edit this yu gi oh duelist roses listing with the correct front yet it was rejected since a german version has a sticker on the front

However this listing is the english version with english backside

https://vgcollect.com/item/78152

If you take the time to read the entry details, you would see that the artwork you're trying to submit is incorrect as it is for the UK variant. Here is an eBay listing for the item with barcode 4012927024300.

Meanwhile, here is an eBay listing for the "card text left" German variant. And here is an eBay listing for the "card text left" British variant.

However, this is not to say that the entry names for this group of items are ideal. From my observation, 78152 and 270645 should have two entry name descriptors (e.g. (card text left / Achtung!) and (card text left / Deutsche Version)) while clarifying in the Description field that they were released in Germany. 270641 (and 270642) should omit the TLD. I will let nathan776 handle those actions, though.


can people actually use some glasses back there before they reject stuff?

I hope you're able to get your prescription soon.

can you explain to me what the difference is between my submission



and the pic that's now chosen?



aside from this new pic being trash quality

regardless if you take 10 seconds to look for english versions online left versions are pretty common

« Last Edit: October 25, 2024, 06:46:42 pm by sworddude »
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dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #181 on: October 25, 2024, 06:45:34 pm »
Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry.

sworddude

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #182 on: October 25, 2024, 06:47:38 pm »
Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry.

it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description

https://vgcollect.com/item/78152

also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense

https://vgcollect.com/item/270642
« Last Edit: October 25, 2024, 06:50:06 pm by sworddude »
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dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #183 on: October 25, 2024, 06:56:28 pm »
Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry.

it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description

https://vgcollect.com/item/78152

also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense

https://vgcollect.com/item/270642

I've already addressed how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a front cover USK rating.

sworddude

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #184 on: October 25, 2024, 06:58:18 pm »
Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry.

it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description

https://vgcollect.com/item/78152

also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense

https://vgcollect.com/item/270642

I've already addressed how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a USK rating.

change the barcode than cause all the other info for said listing is for the english version.

Most people who added the game to the collection have an english version only a fraction has german
it's the most popular listing for this game

the listing has barely an german info in it aside from the barcode and front pic that was altered
Your Stylish Sword Master!



dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #185 on: October 25, 2024, 07:15:25 pm »
I've already addressed how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a USK rating.

change the barcode than cause all the other info for said listing is for the english version.

Most people who added the game to the collection have an english version only a fraction has german
it's the most popular listing for this game

the listing has barely an german info in it aside from the barcode and front pic that was altered

Right now, all of the entry information is correct. Like with many regional variants across Europe, there is a lot of overlap information; barcode information almost always varies, though.

As you can see from the 78152's History tab, I've had no part in editing the entry. So, I can't attest as to why certain decisions were made in the past, but I'm certainly not changing them now. As always, how many members are connected to an entry is irrelevant as we should prioritize the entry's original intent. If members neglected to see any conflicting errors in the entry before adding it to their accounts, then that is their mistake, albeit a mistake that's easy to correct now as a number of variant entries have since been submitted.

If you're wanting to add what I'm assuming is the item you own to your collection, then the entry you're looking for is 270641.

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #186 on: October 26, 2024, 03:14:50 pm »
With regards to Pele's Soccer for the Atari 2600 [EU], https://vgcollect.com/item/66478

The release date for the title is listed as 1981, so:

The front box image is correct

The back box image appears to be the 1987 version, https://vgcollect.com/item/275173

The cartridge image appears to be the 1988 version, but I can't tell for sure.  If it is indeed the 1988 cartridge then this image should be moved, if possible, to the 1988 version entry here https://vgcollect.com/item/275175 because the 1988 cartridge is nearly impossible to find.  I do not have this image in my files, Atarimania doesn't have the image, and I can't find it anywhere.

I can edit the 1981 entry with the appropriate 1981 images, but I wanted to inform the mods of these issues prior to making the edits. 

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #187 on: October 26, 2024, 05:07:21 pm »
Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry.

it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description

https://vgcollect.com/item/78152

also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense

https://vgcollect.com/item/270642

I've already addressed how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a USK rating.

change the barcode than cause all the other info for said listing is for the english version.

Most people who added the game to the collection have an english version only a fraction has german
it's the most popular listing for this game

the listing has barely an german info in it aside from the barcode and front pic that was altered


I cannot attest for why the barcode was initially changed however I have provided the matching front image for the specific listing based on the barcode provided (Example listing: www.ebay.de/itm/296729807963 ).

In terms of what takes precedent, the barcode is what is relied on for what version a item is as its the clearest indication of what an item is meant to actually be. In many instances there is a mish-mash of information which needs to be corrected to a specific version.

I have not denied any image relating to these items and welcome anyone to add improved images where possible. A lot of the items listed can be difficult to gather great images of due to either their rarity or simply good images not being available at the time. Frequently I revisit items I have created when I become aware of a better image available to me.

Completely understand your point regarding users possibly having the wrong item in their collection now due to the barcode change 2 years ago. Perhaps it would be better to of merged users to the relevant version before the barcode change however I have no context as to what caused the changed and wasn't even a moderator at that point of time. *Edit* Possibly the back image?

Also, I get that it can be frustrating when an edit gets denied but please don't take it personally in any way. Frankly, you provide some of the better edits on the website. Having high quality Edits and scans submitted. It was great having edits come through for the guide section for example. The odd few edits may inevitably get denied (I was posting on the error thread almost every week so I know how that feels haha) but its just something that can happen with these niche items.


However, this is not to say that the entry names for this group of items are ideal. From my observation, 78152 and 270645 should have two entry name descriptors (e.g. (card text left / Achtung!) and (card text left / Deutsche Version)) while clarifying in the Description field that they were released in Germany. 270641 (and 270642) should omit the TLD. I will let nathan776 handle those actions, though.

I agree that the name changes would be more ideal and will change them momentarily.



« Last Edit: October 26, 2024, 05:10:20 pm by nathan776 »

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #188 on: October 26, 2024, 07:26:48 pm »
With regards to Pele's Soccer for the Atari 2600 [EU], https://vgcollect.com/item/66478

The release date for the title is listed as 1981, so:

The front box image is correct

The back box image appears to be the 1987 version, https://vgcollect.com/item/275173

The cartridge image appears to be the 1988 version, but I can't tell for sure.  If it is indeed the 1988 cartridge then this image should be moved, if possible, to the 1988 version entry here https://vgcollect.com/item/275175 because the 1988 cartridge is nearly impossible to find.  I do not have this image in my files, Atarimania doesn't have the image, and I can't find it anywhere.

I can edit the 1981 entry with the appropriate 1981 images, but I wanted to inform the mods of these issues prior to making the edits.

Based on the original Front and Cart art images, 66478 has been updated to Pelé's Soccer (1988). 275175 has been merged into it.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2024, 07:30:39 pm by dhaabi »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #189 on: October 28, 2024, 10:07:37 pm »
« Last Edit: October 29, 2024, 09:06:15 am by dhaabi »

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #190 on: October 29, 2024, 10:47:00 am »
Back art is original to the entry but the EAN added later was wrong. I changed the barcode to what was on the back art. The entry is for an English version as it comes with the English carts (E prefix) instead of the German cards (G prefix).

After evaluating the back image, I have come to the conclusion that the image is a composite. It sources from a warez forum that originally hosted the images on Imageshack, but all of the links are broken. It appears to be a combination of the English back but with the German barcode. Since the entry was originally believed to be the English version, the barcode should be changed back to the one somnlegacy used: 4012927023570

Swapped the entries.
- made 78152 the UK version
- made 270641 the German version

As a side note: Grok won't try to read the barcode because it is too small, but Gemini did try and came up with this: 096279045878

Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry.

it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description

https://vgcollect.com/item/78152

also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense

https://vgcollect.com/item/270642

I've already addressed how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a USK rating.

change the barcode than cause all the other info for said listing is for the english version.

Most people who added the game to the collection have an english version only a fraction has german
it's the most popular listing for this game

the listing has barely an german info in it aside from the barcode and front pic that was altered
« Last Edit: October 29, 2024, 10:52:00 am by tripredacus »

NickAwesome

PRO Supporter

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #191 on: October 29, 2024, 08:01:17 pm »
Alright I need to know why my edit for Ishido: The Way of Stones was rejected for Genesis.

I understand there's a character mark above the o so it should pronounced as ou

But on the box it is not spelled Ishidou- anyone trying to search this game is going to spell it as Ishido as that is clearly what is shown on the box. 

I had to manually search Genesis to find the game as I had no idea I needed to search Ishidou and not Ishido.  That seems flawed. 

Also- all the other versions of this game in the database is Ishidō- the gameboy version is not spelled Ishidou- it's spelled Ishidō.  It should not be different.

Can we compromise and edit it to be Ishidō?




NickAwesome

PRO Supporter

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #192 on: October 29, 2024, 08:03:40 pm »
I resubmitted the edits for both the genesis and lynx versions to Ishidō

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #193 on: October 30, 2024, 09:21:48 am »
Can we compromise and edit it to be Ishidō?

When I rejected your submissions, I was under the impression that we prioritized transliteration over transcription, but this seems to be only relevant regarding JP items. So, NA and EU entry pages have been reverted back to Ishidō, whereas JP entry pages maintain Ishidou.

Several of the entries were previously titled Ishidō: The Way of the Stones which is incorrect, so there should be greater uniformity now.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2024, 10:11:04 am by dhaabi »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #194 on: October 30, 2024, 07:54:24 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/181595

Got two rejected edits related to text.

As mentioned, the text that's listed on the box_text value is on the front cover, not on the back.

Game bought today, brand-new.