Author Topic: Error Listings 2018  (Read 8689 times)

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2018, 09:54:27 am »
Names corrected on the white/red and the black/red.
silver/black and white/red moved to NES/Famicom hardware.

jjfly

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2018, 03:36:22 pm »
These Skylanders trap entries feature multiple trap types of element and should probably be removed in favor of separate entries (which some already exist):
https://vgcollect.com/item/69672
https://vgcollect.com/item/69673

telly

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Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2018, 08:30:23 am »
« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 09:55:51 am by tripredacus »
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tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2018, 09:55:31 am »
These Skylanders trap entries feature multiple trap types of element and should probably be removed in favor of separate entries (which some already exist):
https://vgcollect.com/item/69672
https://vgcollect.com/item/69673

From what it looks like, each of these can come with 1 of 6 different things inside, that (apparently) have these names:
Emerald Energy, Jade Blade, Oak Eagle, Seed Serpent, Shrub Shrieker, and Weed Whacker

But I cannot find any picture of the sides (it looks to only have warnings) or the bottom. Where do those names come from?
I see the backer card is generic and has the same item number and UPC on the different versions, so that is not helpful.

jjfly

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2018, 05:38:15 pm »
These Skylanders trap entries feature multiple trap types of element and should probably be removed in favor of separate entries (which some already exist):
https://vgcollect.com/item/69672
https://vgcollect.com/item/69673

From what it looks like, each of these can come with 1 of 6 different things inside, that (apparently) have these names:
Emerald Energy, Jade Blade, Oak Eagle, Seed Serpent, Shrub Shrieker, and Weed Whacker

But I cannot find any picture of the sides (it looks to only have warnings) or the bottom. Where do those names come from?
I see the backer card is generic and has the same item number and UPC on the different versions, so that is not helpful.

Names come probably from what they are called in game. Not exactly ideal but probably better than to have 6 differently shaped trap under "Life Trap" tittle, especially since there is monsters that can be trapped only with specific traps in Skylanders: Tap Team. Other possibility would be listing them by their general shape. For example: Emerald Energy would be Life Torch and Jade Blade would be Life Sword. Here list of all taps (minus Eastern Bunny limited edition Earth Trap): http://skylanders.wikia.com/wiki/Traps

Now that I think about it. Crystals from skylanders: imaginators have same problem as they are sold in similar manner.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 07:41:46 pm by jjfly »

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2018, 10:14:59 am »
I had some good looks at some of these, using the Life Trap example. The names of the shapes are not on the card, nor on any of the three sides of the cardboard insert of the bubble. There is no "bottom" part of the cardboard insert, it is only a tri-fold and the trap can be seen from the bottom. The names are not on the EU versions either.

We can pick to use the in-game name like so:
Life Trap (toucan) - Skylanders: Trap Team [NA]
alt-name: green Oak Eagle

I find a problem with the image on the entry right now, it does not appear to be on that wikia page. It looks to be the stock photo (only) of Life Trap (snake), but the final released toy is a different mold. So that image can't be on the entry for that type.

So then there we would need to have an entry for each version. For Life Trap [NA] there are 8 items, including the toucan with Riot Shield Shredder (there is a label on the backer card) and the other one.

jjfly

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2018, 04:35:17 pm »
Two empty entries by binaryink:
https://vgcollect.com/item/140552
https://vgcollect.com/item/140553


And

https://vgcollect.com/item/15644
This one seems to have wrong barcode as current one is for bbfc-rated release: http://www.upcitemdb.com/upc/5021290035508
Barode of My Pegi-rated copy is 5021290036611 if that's any help.

« Last Edit: February 28, 2018, 09:55:49 am by tripredacus »

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2018, 09:57:05 am »
The Tomb Raider game fortunately is the only one, unfortunately there seems not enough recent interaction of users in collection or the editor. Changed artwork to match provided info...

As it seems the image was a stock photo and I can't find any releases of this game with the PEGI rating and that particular Crystal Dynamics logo.

fazerco

PRO Supporter

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2018, 10:12:03 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/46114 Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary [EU]

There is a barcode there that gives only vg as a source. And the cover isnt right it has a sleeve. I want to change this but ill wait for the ok of a mod.

I also send a message to the guy who put the barcode in.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2018, 10:56:22 am by tripredacus »

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2018, 10:56:13 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/46114 Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary [EU]

There is a barcode there that gives only vg as a source. And the cover isnt right it has a sleeve. I want to change this but ill wait for the ok of a mod.

I also send a message to the guy who put the barcode in.

Changed barcode, front art and back art. That one with 885370316223 is the most common for the UK version. If that guy actually has one with a different number, then it would be nice to find out what it is and we can make a new entry.

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2018, 11:06:41 am »
Hi.  Inconsistencies with moderators again.

https://vgcollect.com/item/140874
https://vgcollect.com/item/140873

I submitted edits on box text for these two listings.  1 was accepted.  1 was denied.  Both edits contained the same basic structure of information.  Why?


tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2018, 11:15:33 am »
Hi.  Inconsistencies with moderators again.

https://vgcollect.com/item/140874
https://vgcollect.com/item/140873

I submitted edits on box text for these two listings.  1 was accepted.  1 was denied.  Both edits contained the same basic structure of information.  Why?

Inconsistencies with the same moderator!

HEY who you calling a moderator! :p

I wanted to have one example. Again this box text issue for digital games. There is no box, but we also don't want to just copy/paste from other sites onto the entry. Here is what I see on this Need for Speed Payback text that was put.

1. There are ™, ® and † symbols. These should not be here.
2. There is a URL, should not be there.

For the rest, there is information that should be in description, such as the extra items and system requirements. But when this information is put into description, the ad-speak should not be present, such as "sufficiently robust"

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2018, 11:30:10 am »
Hi.  Inconsistencies with moderators again.

https://vgcollect.com/item/140874
https://vgcollect.com/item/140873

I submitted edits on box text for these two listings.  1 was accepted.  1 was denied.  Both edits contained the same basic structure of information.  Why?

Inconsistencies with the same moderator!

HEY who you calling a moderator! :p

I wanted to have one example. Again this box text issue for digital games. There is no box, but we also don't want to just copy/paste from other sites onto the entry. Here is what I see on this Need for Speed Payback text that was put.

1. There are ™, ® and † symbols. These should not be here.
2. There is a URL, should not be there.

For the rest, there is information that should be in description, such as the extra items and system requirements. But when this information is put into description, the ad-speak should not be present, such as "sufficiently robust"
Wut?  NFS was accepted.  Dead Alliance was denied.  Dead Alliance had all that same info.

I still don't understand the issues. 

For steam, we copy/paste from Steam's website... and that's ok.  For PSN/etc, we can't copy/paste from website for some reason?

1. What's wrong with these symbols, why shouldn't they be there?
2. What's wrong with having a URL, why shouldn't they be there?

My understanding is that all of that info goes into box text, not description.  Description is used for relevant information such as variants and other necessary explanations.  System requirements would go into Box text, not description, as it does not describe or differentiate the product from any other similar product.


tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2018, 12:54:51 pm »
Hi.  Inconsistencies with moderators again.

https://vgcollect.com/item/140874
https://vgcollect.com/item/140873

I submitted edits on box text for these two listings.  1 was accepted.  1 was denied.  Both edits contained the same basic structure of information.  Why?

Inconsistencies with the same moderator!

HEY who you calling a moderator! :p

I wanted to have one example. Again this box text issue for digital games. There is no box, but we also don't want to just copy/paste from other sites onto the entry. Here is what I see on this Need for Speed Payback text that was put.

1. There are ™, ® and † symbols. These should not be here.
2. There is a URL, should not be there.

For the rest, there is information that should be in description, such as the extra items and system requirements. But when this information is put into description, the ad-speak should not be present, such as "sufficiently robust"
Wut?  NFS was accepted.  Dead Alliance was denied.  Dead Alliance had all that same info.

I still don't understand the issues. 

For steam, we copy/paste from Steam's website... and that's ok.  For PSN/etc, we can't copy/paste from website for some reason?

1. What's wrong with these symbols, why shouldn't they be there?
2. What's wrong with having a URL, why shouldn't they be there?

My understanding is that all of that info goes into box text, not description.  Description is used for relevant information such as variants and other necessary explanations.  System requirements would go into Box text, not description, as it does not describe or differentiate the product from any other similar product.

NFS was accepted so I could point out why the other was denied. Because this should be public and not a conversation kept in private. If no one could see what you had put onto the entry, how would they know what to look for?

The symbols and the URL are indicators that the text was taken directly from another website. Because VGC is also a website, this shouldn't be done because we do not have permission to do it.

For box text, the digital style says "For example, if I were to add The Simpson's Arcade Game to the database, the box text would be the summary that is listed on Xbox.com." This is an outdated example, because that game isn't on their site and there is no summary. There is this Simpsons Game and the text from Overview would be applicable.
https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/The-Simpsons-Game/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80245410809#

And as for Steam, the text used is the small paragraph on the store page or the first (and/or second) paragraph under About this Game. With this example of Civilization V:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/8930/Sid_Meiers_Civilization_V/

The box text would be "Create, discover, and download new player-created maps, scenarios, interfaces, and more! " and not the entirety of the text in the About This Game section.

For NFS Payback, we can use a similar method to Steam:
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/need-for-speed-payback-ps4/
box text would be "The Need for Speed Payback - Deluxe Edition gives you an edge over the competition with up to 3 days of early access to the full game."

With the trademark symbol removed. Not all the text from that page, not verbatim. List package contents or system requirements in description field. The reason we don't need to store all of another website's text is because it is available on that site.

So to be aware, if box text on a digital game is a large amount of text, has symbols or URLs in it, it will/can be rejected by admins or retro-actively removed by users doing edits.

fazerco

PRO Supporter

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2018, 01:06:09 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/46114 Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary [EU]

There is a barcode there that gives only vg as a source. And the cover isnt right it has a sleeve. I want to change this but ill wait for the ok of a mod.

I also send a message to the guy who put the barcode in.

Changed barcode, front art and back art. That one with 885370316223 is the most common for the UK version. If that guy actually has one with a different number, then it would be nice to find out what it is and we can make a new entry.

He mailed me that he has this version.