Author Topic: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019  (Read 72576 times)

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #225 on: July 12, 2019, 06:49:48 pm »
Someone already rejected my change request so here I am.

Please change the name on this item https://www.vgcollect.com/item/162804 from "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (purple cover)" to "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (Best Buy)". You'll see that's how other Limited Run Games are handled. For example,


https://www.vgcollect.com/item/152425

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/163160
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 10:23:21 am by tripredacus »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #226 on: July 13, 2019, 09:34:43 pm »
"The legend of zelda Breath of the wild (Digitial)"

Artwork used is some mash-up of European ratings and the limited edition, listed under physical NA...

https://vgcollect.com/item/163977

« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 10:23:14 am by tripredacus »

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Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #227 on: July 15, 2019, 10:22:25 am »
Someone already rejected my change request so here I am.

Please change the name on this item https://www.vgcollect.com/item/162804 from "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (purple cover)" to "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (Best Buy)". You'll see that's how other Limited Run Games are handled. For example,


https://www.vgcollect.com/item/152425

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/163160

If it does not say Best Buy on the cover somewhere, then it can't be in the title. The other two you linked are wrong.

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #228 on: July 16, 2019, 10:49:59 am »
This is getting back to something I brought up earlier about Nintendo eShop listings. I was away from my switch and wanted to confirm manually.

The text on listings on the Nintendo website https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/super-mario-maker-2-switch/ is exactly what's listed on the switch itself in the Nintendo eShop.

So copying text from the Nintendo website for Switch eShop listings is 100% accurate, but should be trimmed down when there is a lot of text according to the style guide.

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Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #229 on: July 16, 2019, 01:50:26 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/164581

Wrong card art, European.

« Last Edit: July 17, 2019, 09:31:17 am by tripredacus »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #230 on: July 18, 2019, 03:24:09 am »
Not necessarily an error but I can't find any evidence of a physically released version of Agents of Mayhem on Xbox One or PS4 that isn't a Day One Edition.

The game didn't do very well so it's likely the Day One Edition is the only edition. Should the listing still list Day One Edition when it's (99% likely) the only edition?

https://vgcollect.com/item/135786
https://vgcollect.com/item/151605

https://vgcollect.com/item/131166
https://vgcollect.com/item/153131
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 09:43:54 am by tripredacus »

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Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #231 on: July 18, 2019, 09:52:12 am »
It happens this way because people rush to add entries into the database when a game is announced, instead of when a game is released. Like all those entries and dupes we get during E3 events, or Nintendo Directs or whatever. Often time, it is a wasted effort. Rather than creating entries for un-released games in physical section, they should be made in the digital categories only. Wait until the thing actually physically exists before putting it into the database.

Think about this. I believe it was one of the Far Cry games, perhaps Far Cry 4. It was added as "Far Cry 4" before the game came out. It had stock photo art. When the game was released, it released as "Limited Edition" which was then added to the db. The game didn't get a non-edition release until later and as a result more people have the "reprint" or "non-editioned" game entry in their collection than the LE or whichever version came out on the release day that they actually have. It took a bit to figure out that this happened, and we fixed up the entries, but it doesn't change the fact of what happened. And this happens all the time with games. Sometimes (as is the case with Agent of Mayhem) the game never gets a non-editioned release, so someone made an entry, and people added it to their collection or wishlist, for a thing that never existed.

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #232 on: July 18, 2019, 06:08:19 pm »
I was rejected trying to move Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition https://vgcollect.com/item/161407 from Xbox One [NA] to Xbox One [TW].

I'm not exactly sure what region it is but it definitely isn't [NA]. I would guess [CN] but Xbox One doesn't have a [CN] category and [TW] makes more sense than [NA].

telly

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #233 on: July 18, 2019, 06:18:38 pm »
TW has a rating that would be on the case so my guess is CN as well
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Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #234 on: July 18, 2019, 08:05:23 pm »
TW has a rating that would be on the case so my guess is CN as well
Is that always the case though? PS4 [TW] has a bunch of listings with ratings: https://vgcollect.com/browse/ps4tw and so does [CN] https://vgcollect.com/browse/ps4cn

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Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #235 on: July 19, 2019, 09:21:08 am »
Moved to XBox Lone (XBone) [NA]

telly

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #236 on: July 19, 2019, 09:41:19 am »
TW has a rating that would be on the case so my guess is CN as well
Is that always the case though? PS4 [TW] has a bunch of listings with ratings: https://vgcollect.com/browse/ps4tw and so does [CN] https://vgcollect.com/browse/ps4cn

Some of them are just in the wrong category or have the wrong box art

Here's the wiki article on the Taiwanese rating systen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Software_Rating_Regulations
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Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #237 on: July 25, 2019, 03:33:51 pm »
Someone already rejected my change request so here I am.

Please change the name on this item https://www.vgcollect.com/item/162804 from "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (purple cover)" to "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (Best Buy)". You'll see that's how other Limited Run Games are handled. For example,


https://www.vgcollect.com/item/152425

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/163160

If it does not say Best Buy on the cover somewhere, then it can't be in the title. The other two you linked are wrong.

Huh? Now it is even more confusing. I'm merely looking for a uniform decision on how alternative covers are handled with the same name as the original cover. The unified unique characteristic for these Limited Run Games Switch releases is the retailer.  Look what vgcollect has now.

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/162804 - "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (purple cover)" It does not say "purple" on the cover.

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/163160 - "Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon (Best Buy cover)" Still left as "Best Buy cover".

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/146196 - "Golf Story (skull on cover)"  It does not say "skull on" on the cover while the Best Buy version is given the original name! https://www.vgcollect.com/item/152425

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/152421 = "Yooka-Laylee (Best Buy)" Missing the word "cover" from the name, but obviously the alternative box art available from Best Buy like the above.


tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #238 on: July 26, 2019, 09:42:56 am »
Someone already rejected my change request so here I am.

Please change the name on this item https://www.vgcollect.com/item/162804 from "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (purple cover)" to "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (Best Buy)". You'll see that's how other Limited Run Games are handled. For example,


https://www.vgcollect.com/item/152425

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/163160

If it does not say Best Buy on the cover somewhere, then it can't be in the title. The other two you linked are wrong.

Huh? Now it is even more confusing. I'm merely looking for a uniform decision on how alternative covers are handled with the same name as the original cover. The unified unique characteristic for these Limited Run Games Switch releases is the retailer.  Look what vgcollect has now.

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/162804 - "ToeJam & Earl: Back in the Groove! (purple cover)" It does not say "purple" on the cover.

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/163160 - "Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon (Best Buy cover)" Still left as "Best Buy cover".

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/146196 - "Golf Story (skull on cover)"  It does not say "skull on" on the cover while the Best Buy version is given the original name! https://www.vgcollect.com/item/152425

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/152421 = "Yooka-Laylee (Best Buy)" Missing the word "cover" from the name, but obviously the alternative box art available from Best Buy like the above.

purple and skull as descriptors, and are in lower case because those are not words that exist on the item. Words that exist on the item, when used as descriptors, should be capitalized. If a game has a version that is some retailer exclusive, but that retailer's name is not on the item anywhere, we should not put it as a descriptor. If you found the item at a garage sale, and had no knowledge that it was an item only sold at Best Buy, you could not know this by looking at it. It is fine to put into description that the item is a specific retailer exclusive.

We need better descriptors for those examples, but the ToeJam and Earl is probably easiest because there is a color difference. Golf Story seems quite difficult for me to think of how to name it. Not having played the game, I do not know if the two characters on each cover have specific names. if so, then we can use their names in the descriptor, similar to how we handle the variants for Lunar releases.

Let's see if we can figure it out together, let us know what ideas you have for how to name these.

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« Reply #239 on: July 27, 2019, 11:04:31 am »
My vote is Limited Run Games items sold through LRG get the name with no descriptor while retailer exclusives get the name plus a descriptor. Three examples

1) Golf Story
2) Toejam and Earl: Back in the Groove!
3) Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon

and

1) Golf Story (Best Buy cover) - "Best Buy" is only capitalized because it is a proper noun not because it is text on the cover art. "cover" is lowercase.
2) Toejam and Earl: Back in the Groove! (Best Buy cover)
3) Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon (Best Buy cover)

I'll agree on your garage sale point; however, in that case both the LRG and retailer versions require descriptors. After all, how would the same person know an item only sold at limitedrungames.com? You are looking at

1) Golf Story (golfer on cover)
2) Toejam and Earl: Back in the Groove! (red cover)
3) Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon (castle on cover)

and

1) Golf Story (skull on cover)
2) Toejam and Earl: Back in the Groove! (purple cover)
3) Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon (people on cover)

The first set looks a lot cleaner because the title shows the primary edition and the descriptor style in the title is uniform. The second set helps someone who doesn't want to research multiple covers.