Would You Rather Gamble Your Money Or Donate To A Better Cause? Or?

[oldgamerz]

I never played the lottery or gambled, I currently spend money on Facebook for a Christian page so it get promoted, My money goes for a good cause, why should anybody gamble for real money when you more often than not lose more then what you gain back, or if you gain anything back at all, or would you rather put that extra money for a new game or car or something?

Sometime people will toss the dice before they get their paycheck and piss it all away, instead of giving their seemingly unwanted money out for donations for homeless and people with no money or hopes of getting any money at all. I critically judge anybody who plays the lottery, I think it is stupid, sure once you actually get some money back you can feel the rush but that rush probably cost you every single dime you just spent.

It's fine do do a loto ticket if you got it for free like as a gift that is super cool, but to buy one it's kind of pointless in my own opinion.

I knew 3 people who spent their life saving on 2 things, #1 Lottery scratch offs every single day, #2 multiple packs of cigarettes. then you got people who buy stinky pot/weed/Marijuana, that is just pointless  for only few a few second of getting high and sticking up your house less alone the surrounding neighborhood.

A lot of times in my own neighborhood people will smoke skunk weed, and you can smell it all the way outside of their house even when they are smoking pot on the inside with closed doors, what's the point, do any of you guys fire up a joint while you play your games, believe it or not I had a friend who would smoke a pot joint and play madden football,

Pot don't really make you stupid or anything since you need to have  a brain to play madden on expert like this man did.  and win every game against the CPU. on the PlayStation 2.

Then we have alcohol, how many of you drink a cold or warm beer while playing a video game, that can stink too, beer stinks, and only gives me  more or a migraine headache.

So the main question is would you rather spend your money on temporary habits? or games? something else? Or do something for the poor?

 Me? I buy games music and spend money on helping the poor, I am a preacher who sells words for free on Facebook and advice to Christians my Facebook page is called.

Modern Christian Believers

(edit) then I have my radio station in the link below, I am also a non profit stream broadcaster

[mrkonasoni]

I always donate money monthly and I actually used to do it almost daily for like 2 or 3 months.

I keep trying to donate money at times but I am also trying to look better and focus on charities that could actually change lives and not just give a meal for one day.

Right now I am donating less but I always try to keep doing it.

I remember that last year in this month curiously I tried to buy Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius Forever with Me because a person had an expensive price tag for it but shipping was free so I was about to give it a try because that game is also important for me and when I went to buy it....., sold out!, I didn't feel bad at all, just kinda disappointed but that's fine.

I just remember that I donated almost all the money and that's it, better luck next time and I wanted to believe I helped someone.

Merry Christmas.

[wolff242]

I critically judge anybody who plays the lottery, I think it is stupid, sure once you actually get some money back you can feel the rush but that rush probably cost you every single dime you just spent.

I see "Thou shalt not judge" are not among the words you " sell for free" as a preacher on Facebook.
What really was the point of this thread? You just insulted anyone and everyone that you asked to chime in outside of those who align with you.

[oldgamerz]

I critically judge anybody who plays the lottery, I think it is stupid, sure once you actually get some money back you can feel the rush but that rush probably cost you every single dime you just spent.

I see "Thou shalt not judge" are not among the words you " sell for free" as a preacher on Facebook.
What really was the point of this thread? You just insulted anyone and everyone that you asked to chime in outside of those who align with you.

I just found it annoying a couple of times at a Kroger store when I had to use customer service and I needed to wait for people to finish making their numbers for the lottery  that's all, why should anybody play  the lottery? I know it's their money, but they are just pissing it away while others who need it more are starving, if you want to not donate or do for a better cause why not spend it on a new video game? or a movie or something for their family? that defeats the purpose of having any money to begin with

people spend $5USD for more for a ticket and more often then not don't get anything in return, if you like to gamble then why not spend that extra money on a lottery video game? it's just how I feel about that

[covfefe2020]

I feel like you just started this thread to complain about how there are people that arent as wise with their money as you.

[burningdoom]

Charities?

[telly]

I've been to Gambler's Anonymous, AA, and others when I was a nursing student in my psych rotation and I saw what these people suffer through. People who struggle with a gambling addiction, alcoholism, tobacco addiction, whatever: A) suffer from an actual disease, B) are real people who could be your family, friends, or users of this forum, and C) deserve proper help and treatment.

What they don't deserve is an uninformed, stigmatized and frankly stupid post like this.

[oldgamerz]

If you don't want to donate then why not spend your money on something that lasts that's all I am trying to make a point, why spend any money on a lottery ticket like at all?

I help people with mine I have donated before, not all the time because I don't actually have that much but. I wanted to discuss the importance some have  over a lottery ticket didn't expect to get reamed so much on a gamer forum who should value games over the lottery, I can see why some would fire up a joint yea to get high, but what does a scratch off or the lottery ever bring to you

What you spend $25USD a month or a week and probably only get $50USD won back that is as if anything at all. why go to a Casino or Las Vegas and toss the dice and lose everything, how fun is that,

whoopy I had a swing time I got drunk, I don't remember what happen but I had a swing time. and I'm flat broke

[telly]

We spend money on "entertainment" that doesn't provide anything physical in return all the time. Seeing a movie, going to an amusement park, going to a concert, and so on. How is buying a lottery ticket or going to a casino any different if it provides entertainment? If that's a valuable experience for you, go for it.

Who are you to say what experiences or things are and aren't worth someone spending money on for someone else when it's really none of your business? Like others have said, you're just being judgmental here.

[oldgamerz]

I've been to Gambler's Anonymous, AA, and others when I was a nursing student in my psych rotation and I saw what these people suffer through. People who struggle with a gambling addiction, alcoholism, tobacco addiction, whatever: A) suffer from an actual disease, B) are real people who could be your family, friends, or users of this forum, and C) deserve proper help and treatment.

What they don't deserve is an uninformed, stigmatized and frankly stupid post like this.

Telly? it says you are a PRO SUPPORTER to this website, so I don't see why you'd want to stick up for the lottery, don't you support this website? instead of a lottery ticket you know you could give that money to VGcollect, I can't because I don't have the extra money to be a PRO supporter, it does not need to be for the homeless or children. if you don't want your extra 25USD or $5 I'm sure VGcollect could use it for supporting this site,

I don't mean to treat you like this because I see your point to some degree of people having diseases is but it clearly shows you ARE a Donator so I don't see your issue with me

[marvelvscapcom2]

I am not a pot user by any means, never touched the stuff because I don't like the smell but for some people that 500 dollars on CDC oil or weed is the difference between suffering from their glaucoma and happiness of life. Some could easily say spending money on lottery tickets is about like spending 2,000 dollars a day on video games from the 80s knowing with a library that big the new game will get played and the other thousand will be neglected. Left to be looked at. So I try not to judge people when I spend thoisands on toys. We all could be doing more for others and less for ourselves. So in that sense you are right and your heart is in a good place oldgamerz   Don't let the naysayers derail what you meant. But also to answer I did donate to #teamseas. It's a beautiful cause and I hope you look into it.

Oh god. I just found the "addiction is a disease" guy lol. I better leave this thread before I disagree with 2 people. Ask the children dying at St. Lukes if they had the choice to not boot the cancer in their viens if they had taken that and come back with that stupid selfish argument. It's not a disease, it's an action. Ive been hooked on video games to an unhealthy level. To the point id see Call of Duty in my dreams and have withdrawls if I was out. And id never compare that to the millions dying in a pandemic of all times. It's with no exaggeration disrespectful. Scientifically by the way a disease is classified and ethically.  I had a choice. Lottery addicts had and still have a choice. And people with disease don't and never did.

[telly]

Telly? it says you are a PRO SUPPORTER to this website, so I don't see why you'd want to stick up for the lottery, don't you support this website? instead of a lottery ticket you know you could give that money to VGcollect, I can't because I don't have the extra money to be a PRO supporter, it does not need to be for the homeless or children. if you don't want your extra 25USD or $5 I'm sure VGcollect could use it for supporting this site,

I don't mean to treat you like this because I see your point to some degree of people having diseases is but it clearly shows you ARE a Donator so I don't see your issue with me

My point is that if you want to buy a lottery ticket for fun, that's your decision and your right. Yes, there are people who spend money on things like that when they can't really afford it. That's the case for everything you can spend money on. Cars, drugs, collectables, video games, alcohol, on and on and on. People who need help with managing finances in a way that benefits their health and the health of their families and dependents should also be provided such services and not be treated like second class citizens.

But your posts show me that you are judgmental of people who suffer from addiction diseases AND people who spend their expendable income on entertainment that you don't agree with. Whether people are "charitable" or not isn't really relevant, you can donate to charity and buy a lottery ticket at the same time.

And you're judging me when I've actually never bought a lottery ticket in my entire life and you have no clue what my spending habits actually look like. 

[telly]

Oh god. I just found the "addiction is a disease" guy lol. I better leave this thread before I disagree with 2 people. Ask the children dying at St. Lukes if they had the choice to not boot the cancer in their viens if they had taken that and come back with that stupid selfish argument. It's not a disease, it's an action. Ive been hooked on video games to an unhealthy level. To the point id see Call of Duty in my dreams and have withdrawls if I was out. And id never compare that to the millions dying in a pandemic of all times. It's with no exaggeration disrespectful. Scientifically by the way a disease is classified and ethically.  I had a choice. Lottery addicts had and still have a choice. And people with disease don't and never did.

Have you read the DSM-V? Have you read anything regarding scientific and medical consensus regarding addictions disease, treatment and diagnosis over the past three decades? You have got to be kidding me.

You can also get cancer because of your "actions" FYI, like smoking. Does that make it not a disease?

Also what strange logic. Is a common cold not a disease because it's not as bad as cancer? Give me a break.

[marvelvscapcom2]

Oh god. I just found the "addiction is a disease" guy lol. I better leave this thread before I disagree with 2 people. Ask the children dying at St. Lukes if they had the choice to not boot the cancer in their viens if they had taken that and come back with that stupid selfish argument. It's not a disease, it's an action. Ive been hooked on video games to an unhealthy level. To the point id see Call of Duty in my dreams and have withdrawls if I was out. And id never compare that to the millions dying in a pandemic of all times. It's with no exaggeration disrespectful. Scientifically by the way a disease is classified and ethically.  I had a choice. Lottery addicts had and still have a choice. And people with disease don't and never did.

Have you read the DSM-V? Have you read anything regarding scientific and medical consensus regarding addictions disease, treatment and diagnosis over the past three decades? You have got to be kidding me.

Also what strange logic. Is a common cold not a disease because it's not as bad as cancer? Give me a break.

Sorry for getting passionate Telly. Just lost loved ones to both. In different ways so maybe the topic hits a nerve. I've read about the nuerological symptoms that mimmic disease in a drug addict. But that falls under "illness" not disease which I won't argue. But diseases like cold you mentioned are not only intrusive molecularly but also non consensual. Addicts have these symptons for one reason. Because they put drugs or stimuli into their system. People with disease have it because nature itself put that disease in them or hereditary factors they didnt ask for. I just find it hard to accept the guy scratching tickets in his F350 which is a luxury to begin with sit on some.soap box during a pandemic and look me with a straight face and tell me that he is on par with aids disease, cancer, ALS and any other thing is baffling to me. 

But that is the beauty of life Telly and I really like you as a person   We can agree and disagree. But while I would never bash addicts or anyone for their troubles because I do know how scary and hard that can be. I just disagree on the verbaige and classifications. Which is fine. But it's christmas soon and I do want to take it back so oldgamerz thread doesn't get locked. I apologize to all.

With that said. I guess we should all donate more and spurge less but we are all human. I do appreciate oldgamerz having the concerns for others

[telly]

If you read the DSM-V, which provides the standard taxonomy and diagnostic criteria of all mental disorders (at least in the United States), there are diagnoses for many different substance abuse and behavioral disorders. The overwhelming scientific and medical majority, including NIDA, is that addictions is a disease and should be treated as such. You're talking about "neurologic symptoms" as if those symptoms are somehow not indicative of a disease just like any other symptom is. Addiction changes the way your brain works so that it's more difficult to stop, and we've known that for many years. It's just as much of a pathologic change to normal function like any other disease.

Even if this weren't the case, and addiction wasn't a disease, I'm not quite understanding your fixation on "ranking" these things and then using that to arbitrarily decide which conditions are worth treating and which ones we can ignore and blame the individual for. Even though you said you would never bash addicts, you still say that they "have a choice" as if only the people who didn't "choose" their disease deserve treatment or even compassion. Like I said earlier, many diseases are a result of both a person's actions and other factors that are beyond an individual's control, both biologic and socioeconomic. It's just inaccurate to take such a hardline black and white approach to things, and in my opinion it's a very harmful way of viewing disease and illness.

Even video games are being evaluated for their ability to be addicting, though I don't think there's enough evidence yet to add it to the DSM-V. It's still being studied.