Error Listings and rejected edits 2024

[frieman4993]

Hi,

Please correct the developer "Pumkin Studios" to "Pumpkin Studios." Here is a database entry with this developer: https://vgcollect.com/item/7790

Thank you.

[tripredacus]

Hi,

Please correct the developer "Pumkin Studios" to "Pumpkin Studios." Here is a database entry with this developer: https://vgcollect.com/item/7790

Thank you.

Changed name

[price5474]

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https://vgcollect.com/item/271487

[coffeejits]

I recently attempted to replace/update the front and back images of RealSports Baseball, https://vgcollect.com/item/137993, because the current images are of the instruction manual, not the box.  I received the following reason.


"Reason:   Action Not Allowed. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: Just like the other Atari 2600 item I rejected yesterday, you need to post these sorts of errors to the forums in the Error Listings topic."


Also, I attempted to update the cartridge image for Space Invaders (red box), https://vgcollect.com/item/16648, because the current image is of the PAL cartridge as denoted by the "P" in the cartridge item #, CX2632P, clearly shown on the cart.  The correct NTSC cart image has item # CX2632, and this is the image I attempted to upload, and received the following message.

"Reason:   Action Not Allowed. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: Post to Error Listings topics, as you seem to be converting an entry. Your submitted Description text outlining Made in Taiwan cartridge with number ending in 032 does not match with the submitted Made in China cartridge art which ends in 002."

So, I'm confused.  Are images of the manual acceptable artwork submissions as in the case of RealSports Baseball?  For Space Invaders, do I change the region to Atari2600 [EU] and ask for it to be merged with the already present European database entry, https://vgcollect.com/item/65498, then resubmit the [NA] data?  This is strange because I've never had these kinds of issues before when replacing images that are clearly erroneous while maintaining the integrity of the existing entry.

[dhaabi]

I recently attempted to replace/update the front and back images of RealSports Baseball, https://vgcollect.com/item/137993, because the current images are of the instruction manual, not the box.  I received the following reason.

Also, I attempted to update the cartridge image for Space Invaders (red box), https://vgcollect.com/item/16648, because the current image is of the PAL cartridge as denoted by the "P" in the cartridge item #, CX2632P, clearly shown on the cart.  The correct NTSC cart image has item # CX2632, and this is the image I attempted to upload, and received the following message.

So, I'm confused.  Are images of the manual acceptable artwork submissions as in the case of RealSports Baseball?  For Space Invaders, do I change the region to Atari2600 [EU] and ask for it to be merged with the already present European database entry, https://vgcollect.com/item/65498, then resubmit the [NA] data?  This is strange because I've never had these kinds of issues before when replacing images that are clearly erroneous while maintaining the integrity of the existing entry.

Since you've been active in submitting variant data, these sorts of proposed submissions appear as attempts to convert an entry into something else which should always be avoided. That said, perhaps that kind of attempt wasn't being made, but, if there's reason for staff to think that is the case, then those submissions will be rejected. Submissions can always be re-sent, and we'd rather an explanation be given for us to understand the situation and the general types of errors we're likely to encounter so we know what to research and look out for when fact-checking. Unlike what you suggest, the existing incorrect data are not "clearly erroneous" either.

Very few of the entries in older categories such as Atari 2600 have existing entry details to help anyone to discern what specific item each entry is intended to represent or if a a set of entry art is correct or mismatched, so bulk submissions which seem to be converting the entry are sometimes confusing without explanation. Matters have become increasingly complicated because variant entries for the same base item are being made simultaneous to actions correcting older entries, with many of the newer entries themselves also lacking details.

I would suggest that, if you plan to make any substantial corrections to an entry which could be construed as changing the identity of the entry altogether, to also post in this topic about it so that staff are aware of the action's reason before they respond to the edit queue. Not all edit submission changes are obvious to staff—especially when variants are involved—so provided explanations in these sorts of circumstances help staff understand why certain edit submissions are being made. As has been suggested, providing simple entry details outlining differences is also helpful, such as the updates I provided for 15577 and 271815.

Because you didn't provide your submitted images in your forum post, I don't remember what the images I rejected look like in detail. But, if I recall correctly, your cartridge art submission for 16648 directly contradicted the information you also supplied to the Description field (and both contradicted the existing entry information), which is the chief reason the edits were rejected altogether and I suggested to post to this topic.

[smesgr]

https://vgcollect.com/item/94689

is a frankenstein entry. Front & Back cover is from the German Version. Disc is UK version. I have currently some changes pending which add item numbers for all items of the german version. But notice this issue afterwards.

[dhaabi]

https://vgcollect.com/item/94689

is a frankenstein entry. Front & Back cover is from the German Version. Disc is UK version. I have currently some changes pending which add item numbers for all items of the german version. But notice this issue afterwards.

Cart Art image has been removed.

[coffeejits]

The front and back artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/35835 are the prototype boxes for the unreleased 1983 game and not the unofficial release by CGE Services.  I can upload the correct boxes for the unofficial release , but I wanted to notify the mods prior to submitting the edit as this can get confusing.  I'll wait to upload until one of the mods acknowledges this post.

[nathan776]

The front and back artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/35835 are the prototype boxes for the unreleased 1983 game and not the unofficial release by CGE Services.  I can upload the correct boxes for the unofficial release , but I wanted to notify the mods prior to submitting the edit as this can get confusing.  I'll wait to upload until one of the mods acknowledges this post.

I can see what you mean. Feel free to upload the correct images to the front and back and I will approve them.

[price5474]

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https://vgcollect.com/item/272969

[coffeejits]

Asterix for the Atari 2600 [EU] has two variants.  One is has a 1983 copyright to Atari, Inc. on the box and cart, and the other has a 1985 copyright to Atari Corp. on the box and cart.  The current database entry for the EU/PAL Asterix, https://vgcollect.com/browse/2600eu/2, has the 1985 copyright cartridge image, but the front page image of the 1983 copyright manual is being used as the front box image.  Furthermore, the original poster used 1983 as the release date.  I can upload the proper images, but my question is which will be appropriate to update the entry?  Should I upload the 1985 front and back images and change the release date to 1985?  Or should I update the entry with the 1983 front, back, and cartridge images and leave the release date alone?

[tripredacus]

Asterix for the Atari 2600 [EU] has two variants.  One is has a 1983 copyright to Atari, Inc. on the box and cart, and the other has a 1985 copyright to Atari Corp. on the box and cart.  The current database entry for the EU/PAL Asterix, https://vgcollect.com/browse/2600eu/2, has the 1985 copyright cartridge image, but the front page image of the 1983 copyright manual is being used as the front box image.  Furthermore, the original poster used 1983 as the release date.  I can upload the proper images, but my question is which will be appropriate to update the entry?  Should I upload the 1985 front and back images and change the release date to 1985?  Or should I update the entry with the 1983 front, back, and cartridge images and leave the release date alone?

Removed front image, release year and description.
Priority on identification given to the cart image, so make it into the 1985 version.

[coffeejits]

A2600 [EU] entry https://vgcollect.com/item/60765 has several errors.  First, the front and back box images are for the Atari 7800.  Second, the title seems to be referring to Baseball released by Sears and Roebuck (see https://vgcollect.com/item/10717 for reference) due to the title descriptor calling it the "8 Tele-games label" version.  Sears did not release PAL versions of their titles, but Atari, Inc. appears to have released a PAL version of their Realsports Baseball (https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-realsports-baseball_40798.html); however, finding any evidence of its existence seems to be hard to do.  Even Atarimania doesn't have images of the box or cart, just a copyright 1982 multi-language manual.  Lastly, it appears that the cartridge image in the entry in question is a copyright 1986 Atari Corp. variant.  That doesn't mean the Atari Corp. cartridge isn't a legitimate PAL release, it's just that I can find no evidence of a PAL Realsports Baseball title, 1982 or otherwise.

[dhaabi]

A2600 [EU] entry https://vgcollect.com/item/60765 has several errors.  First, the front and back box images are for the Atari 7800.  Second, the title seems to be referring to Baseball released by Sears and Roebuck (see https://vgcollect.com/item/10717 for reference) due to the title descriptor calling it the "8 Tele-games label" version.  Sears did not release PAL versions of their titles, but Atari, Inc. appears to have released a PAL version of their Realsports Baseball (https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-realsports-baseball_40798.html); however, finding any evidence of its existence seems to be hard to do.  Even Atarimania doesn't have images of the box or cart, just a copyright 1982 multi-language manual.  Lastly, it appears that the cartridge image in the entry in question is a copyright 1986 Atari Corp. variant.  That doesn't mean the Atari Corp. cartridge isn't a legitimate PAL release, it's just that I can find no evidence of a PAL Realsports Baseball title, 1982 or otherwise.

As you've said, 60765 is likely meant to represent 10717 (or 10718) and was erroneously placed in the EU sub-cat. It's been merged into 10717.

[empovyle]

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