So what are our thoughts on Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen coming bacc?

[spyrofanx]

I'm uh........ conflicted to say the least. On one hand, it's good to see more titles be preserved through rereleases. On the other hand, this is a p lazy port. Also, 20 Bucks each for GBA games is not great. Better than what most people expected outta Nintendo, but still. Gonna get em, but will DEF feel dirty doing so after the fact.

[kamikazekeeg]

I thought it was cool for a moment, until I saw that it was 20 bucks, per version, of which there are technically 6 versions (3 languages per version) because Nintendo/TPC are doing almost no work on these.  Basically on the level of rom dumps, but slapping 20 bucks on them.  It's embarrassing, lazy, and totally what I expect of Pokemon.  If they were 20 bucks for everything in one nice package, that would be better, abit more justifiable, but I'm ignoring them once I get my Switch 2.  Just sucks to see and a continuing example of why I hate Pokemon these days.

[sworddude]

even in the old days I couldn't understand why people would spend 5$ on a port of their favourite games on multiple consoles. it's a big waste of money always has been. rebuying that stuff again for a new console.

Don't have joy playing old games on new consoles. so I would pass on it no matter the price. I'll say this considering how scarce nintendo has been with it's ports for the good stuff, enough people will buy this. especially the ones that dislike piracy morals/ massive savings compared to going original.

still imo gba games should have been 3$ each max with a discount if you buy multiple. even in the old days ports where overpriced at 5 to 10$ if you'd ask me.

[ssj4yamgeta]

There's nothing that makes one of these worth $20. It's the laziest port job I've ever seen. They literally just dumped the original roms for the games and charged $20 each for them. The bare minimum effort would have been to include all language variants in the same rom. From my experience with modding, that would entail just copying all of the regional variants on top of each other (thereby patching all of the language files into the same rom), then spending maybe an hour or so coding a new menu option to allow the player to select the language pack they want. This would at most be a 2-hour scripting job for one person. And even then, each game should only be about $8 maximum. The only way I could see charging $20 each is if each game was a physical copy on an actual game cart. For that matter, since each game is about 16mb, just put both on the same cart with all languages patched in and charge $25 for it. That would actually be pretty cool. But there's no reason for me to pay $40 to do what I already do on my PC for free. This kind of ultra-low-effort crap is what convinced me to dump the Pokemon franchise.

[dhaabi]

The bare minimum effort would have been to include all language variants in the same rom.

This action wasn't taken to avoid the software being reevaluated by video game content rating boards. Because these games feature in-game gambling, an age rating that's more mature than the current ones for general audiences would have been assigned. Since no code was adjusted, there was no plausible reason to be reevaluated.

[bikingjahuty]

I'm confused about the outrage I've been seeing online. It's like people forgot game companies have been releasing old games on digital store front fro the past 20-years or something. I remember seeing games like Pokemon Snap and Ocarina of Time on the Virtual Console back in 2007 for like $12, which is practically $20 adjusted for inflation. I have no idea what Fire Red and Leaf Green go for these days physically, but unless they're over $100 loose, I'd say you might as well just get the physical cart and skip the digital copy. On top of that, I can't imagine it's very hard to find the roms for either of these, which seems to be a more and more common route people are taking with older games.

[weirdfeline]

Pricing is pretty crazy and the Let's Go games already exist to experience the first gen on Switch. I'd like a way to experience the second gen again.

[marvelvscapcom2]

Garbage. Predatory. Typical of Nintendo post pandemic. Wildly silly. To use a few expressions lol. But they arent to blame. People will buy it. Nobody will stand against anything with their wallet. It feels like cultism at this point. But I will say I Guess it's better than repackaging last gens games for 70 dollars which has NEVER been done to this extent before. Be like N64 having super mario kart for 60 bucks at launch. You just bought a new ps2? Here is crash bandicoot for ps1 for 70 dollars. Slightly better textures. Horray. That's how silly all this is. Modern gaming feels like a bad dream sometimes. The leaf green is the least of the nonsense but still way overpriced.  Especially non physical.  Someone going to the store and deciding to buy last gens zelda from 5 years ago for full 70 USD  on a console that is literally the same exact form factor. Now thats twilight zone level nonsense.

 Leaf Green and Fire Red should have either been part of a monthly subscription with 30 other GBA games or 2.99 on Eshop. 


If its not physical, it becomes no different than emulation for me.  Buying a digital access key to a very common free rom?


20 dollars for a game that you can emulate easily on any phone for free is just asinine. It's literally cheaper to buy a fake physical version of the game. It's almost as much money as Pokemon Sword used. An actual recent title on physical cartridge.   I just really feel they have lost the plot.   The switch was incredible. Switch 2 is the new Wii U.  Inflated reseller sales won't save this company by year 3. Mark my words.

[sworddude]

but unless they're over $100 loose, I'd say you might as well just get the physical cart and skip the digital copy.

so unironicly they are over a 100$ each for loose carts and not even from retro stores that put a markup on em, actual market value

Pricing is pretty crazy and the Let's Go games already exist to experience the first gen on Switch. I'd like a way to experience the second gen again.

while you are right and while it's technically gen 1. that game got baby vibes it's not ideal for everyone. While 20$ is a scam for an old retro port I'd easily pay that over let's go at 20$. even if let's go was 5$ or free i'd take a port of the gba games at 20$ each over it. it's a godly deal in comparison. let's go is not a good gen 1 experience it's a terrible game. if let's go was released back in the day as the first games I really doubt pokemon would have been as popular as it was today. kids would drop it at really young ages, ain't anything cool about that game. it's really kiddy like 5yo kiddy. yes pokemon games are made for kids but let's go is too on the nose while older gens looked cool and made for all ages, let's go looks like a game for 5yo's. ost also murdered and disneyfied.

[weirdfeline]

but unless they're over $100 loose, I'd say you might as well just get the physical cart and skip the digital copy.

so unironicly they are over a 100$ each for loose carts and not even from retro stores that put a markup on em, actual market value

Pricing is pretty crazy and the Let's Go games already exist to experience the first gen on Switch. I'd like a way to experience the second gen again.

while you are right and while it's technically gen 1. that game got baby vibes it's not ideal for everyone. While 20$ is a scam for an old retro port I'd easily pay that over let's go at 20$. even if let's go was 5$ or free i'd take a port of the gba games at 20$ each over it. it's a godly deal in comparison. let's go is not a good gen 1 experience it's a terrible game. if let's go was released back in the day as the first games I really doubt pokemon would have been as popular as it was today. kids would drop it at really young ages, ain't anything cool about that game. it's really kiddy like 5yo kiddy. yes pokemon games are made for kids but let's go is too on the nose while older gens looked cool and made for all ages, let's go looks like a game for 5yo's. ost also murdered and disneyfied.

I played Let's Go, Eevee! with the Pokéball controller and enjoyed it quite a bit. My initial reaction to it was that it's just for non-gamers that played Pokémon Go to introduce them to the full series but it was a more memorable experience than I had playing X or Omega Ruby which I just breezed through. I'd say X/Y with a fairy type Pokémon is a more of a "kiddy" game than Let's Go is. Slurpuff one hit KO'd everything in that game. I also only paid about $30 new for the bundle with controller and traded it into eStarland for double what I paid lol.

[sworddude]

but unless they're over $100 loose, I'd say you might as well just get the physical cart and skip the digital copy.

so unironicly they are over a 100$ each for loose carts and not even from retro stores that put a markup on em, actual market value

Pricing is pretty crazy and the Let's Go games already exist to experience the first gen on Switch. I'd like a way to experience the second gen again.

while you are right and while it's technically gen 1. that game got baby vibes it's not ideal for everyone. While 20$ is a scam for an old retro port I'd easily pay that over let's go at 20$. even if let's go was 5$ or free i'd take a port of the gba games at 20$ each over it. it's a godly deal in comparison. let's go is not a good gen 1 experience it's a terrible game. if let's go was released back in the day as the first games I really doubt pokemon would have been as popular as it was today. kids would drop it at really young ages, ain't anything cool about that game. it's really kiddy like 5yo kiddy. yes pokemon games are made for kids but let's go is too on the nose while older gens looked cool and made for all ages, let's go looks like a game for 5yo's. ost also murdered and disneyfied.

I played Let's Go, Eevee! with the Pokéball controller and enjoyed it quite a bit. My initial reaction to it was that it's just for non-gamers that played Pokémon Go to introduce them to the full series but it was a more memorable experience than I had playing X or Omega Ruby which I just breezed through. I'd say X/Y with a fairy type Pokémon is a more of a "kiddy" game than Let's Go is. Slurpuff one hit KO'd everything in that game. I also only paid about $30 new for the bundle with controller and traded it into eStarland for double what I paid lol.

while I don't think X & Y are as kiddy in terms of art style and music they aren't that great either so i will tolerate the X & Y bashing. only good thing about gen 6 are mega evolutions but it came at a cost.

X & y where a huge downgrade for the series.  while previously it seemed like the games arguably only got better in terms of content. I was still really satisfied with BW 2 on release, but X & Y where massive dissapointments, really ez games, the 3d grapics are fine for 3ds but it does hit different than 2D and really bare bones content.

[kamikazekeeg]

The only issue I had with Let's Go is the Pokemon Go mechanics, especially since they made the great decision that if you are playing docked, you are forced to use the motion controllers, even though they have the option to not use it when playing handheld, I swear that Game Freak is one of the most frustrating companies around lol  Otherwise, I was fine enough with Let's Go, it's not the best remake, but it did enough and was enough of a nostalgia trip that I was good with it.  I feel if I tried to replay it though, I wouldn't like it as much due to how much my views have soured on Pokemon with the games that released after it.