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gf78:

--- Quote from: sworddude on May 19, 2016, 03:23:16 pm ---With slightly better I mean adding a few things here and there. That's aside from the point.

I've played them nes to wii u games. All games are different and fun to play don't give me that crap about slightly better. What I say applies for ps3 and xbox 360 games since the newer parts aren't that much different. Sega and nintendo titles are memorable and the occasional ps2 titles such as ico and shadow of the collosus.

2D and 3D are different, 2D games can be better than 3D games and he other way around.

Also putting mario games aside I do prefer 2D games, I am a sega guy after all, sega sure does have many good 3D games ::)

Furthermore your going way off topic were talking about why ps3 and xbox 360 games have low value and why the wii actually has value. With what I said before being part of that reason.

Wii games aren't rare and yet titles such as mario and pokemon retain there value the only thing I'm saying is that those titles are unique unlike games such as infamous 1 and 2 the 2nd one being superior and the first one forgotten since the games don't have to much of a variety except for the story. If a next one will be made It;s all about the newest game older games will be forgotten.

Has nothing to do with my opinion.

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You are dismissing the entire library of PS3 and 360 games based on the assumption that the sequels are "slightly better by adding a few things here or there."  That is exactly what Nintendo games do!  They are the same formula, they just add a Tanooki suit or whatever for the next game. 

You sit there and sit all NES to Wii games are different and fun to play, yet can't manage to see how someone could enjoy Infamous 1 and Infamous 2, finding things they like about each that wouldn't negate the previous entry.  Have you played Infamous 1 or 2?  Both?  If you had, you would know that the first game is usually considered better than the second.  But you are just pulling an argument out of your ass to bash a system you don't like.  Wanna deny it?  Go back to your statement about if someone gave you PS3 games, you wouldn't want them in your library and would throw them out.  You said that.

It's been a fact all the way back from the NES on that Nintendo-made titles are considered valuable.  Much of that is a more modern trend where resellers are buying up anything made by Nintendo and jacking the prices up.  This wasn't even true five years ago.  You could buy Super Smash Bros. Melee or Zelda Wind Waker for Wii for $5 a pop.  We have this artificial speculator's boom going on, inflating the prices beyond what most people would even pay for the games and suckering in fans who may have missed out before because we live in a society of "I gotta have it!  I gottta have it now!" folks who will blow their money no matter what. 

In addition, Nintendo doesn't release Best of or Greatest Hits games very much anymore and when they do, they are in limited quantities.  Sony and Microsoft on the other hand have no problem releasing Greatest Hits, Platinum Hits or compilations.  Sony has released entire series in "Collections" for some time now.  If you just want to play the game and not collect it, would you spend $80 to buy the PS2 Ratchet & Clank games or just pick up the PS3 Collection for $20?  I will also use this opportunity to say that the Ratchet & Clank games have more heart, charm & fun factor than any 3D Mario entry.

The story is precisely why people love these series that you bash.  But I guess playing "Boop-boop-be-boop!" Sega classics and old Mario games where every damn time Bowser kidnapped the princess is more thrilling than good gameplay and an engaging story to you?  Ok.

And if you want to talk about value, where is the value in Sega games?  You can buy a Sega console these days with every damn game they made already built-in for fifty bucks.  True classics.   ::)
sworddude:

--- Quote from: gf78 on May 19, 2016, 03:53:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: sworddude on May 19, 2016, 03:23:16 pm ---With slightly better I mean adding a few things here and there. That's aside from the point.

I've played them nes to wii u games. All games are different and fun to play don't give me that crap about slightly better. What I say applies for ps3 and xbox 360 games since the newer parts aren't that much different. Sega and nintendo titles are memorable and the occasional ps2 titles such as ico and shadow of the collosus.

2D and 3D are different, 2D games can be better than 3D games and he other way around.

Also putting mario games aside I do prefer 2D games, I am a sega guy after all, sega sure does have many good 3D games ::)

Furthermore your going way off topic were talking about why ps3 and xbox 360 games have low value and why the wii actually has value. With what I said before being part of that reason.

Wii games aren't rare and yet titles such as mario and pokemon retain there value the only thing I'm saying is that those titles are unique unlike games such as infamous 1 and 2 the 2nd one being superior and the first one forgotten since the games don't have to much of a variety except for the story. If a next one will be made It;s all about the newest game older games will be forgotten.

Has nothing to do with my opinion.

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You are dismissing the entire library of PS3 and 360 games based on the assumption that the sequels are "slightly better by adding a few things here or there."  That is exactly what Nintendo games do!  They are the same formula, they just add a Tanooki suit or whatever for the next game. 

You sit there and sit all NES to Wii games are different and fun to play, yet can't manage to see how someone could enjoy Infamous 1 and Infamous 2, finding things they like about each that wouldn't negate the previous entry.  Have you played Infamous 1 or 2?  Both?  If you had, you would know that the first game is usually considered better than the second.  But you are just pulling an argument out of your ass to bash a system you don't like.  Wanna deny it?  Go back to your statement about if someone gave you PS3 games, you wouldn't want them in your library and would throw them out.  You said that.

It's been a fact all the way back from the NES on that Nintendo-made titles are considered valuable.  Much of that is a more modern trend where resellers are buying up anything made by Nintendo and jacking the prices up.  This wasn't even true five years ago.  You could buy Super Smash Bros. Melee or Zelda Wind Waker for Wii for $5 a pop.  We have this artificial speculator's boom going on, inflating the prices beyond what most people would even pay for the games and suckering in fans who may have missed out before because we live in a society of "I gotta have it!  I gottta have it now!" folks who will blow their money no matter what. 

In addition, Nintendo doesn't release Best of or Greatest Hits games very much anymore and when they do, they are in limited quantities.  Sony and Microsoft on the other hand have no problem releasing Greatest Hits, Platinum Hits or compilations.  Sony has released entire series in "Collections" for some time now.  If you just want to play the game and not collect it, would you spend $80 to buy the PS2 Ratchet & Clank games or just pick up the PS3 Collection for $20?  I will also use this opportunity to say that the Ratchet & Clank games have more heart, charm & fun factor than any 3D Mario entry.

The story is precisely why people love these series that you bash.  But I guess playing "Boop-boop-be-boop!" Sega classics and old Mario games where every damn time Bowser kidnapped the princess is more thrilling than good gameplay and an engaging story to you?  Ok.

And if you want to talk about value, where is the value in Sega games?  You can buy a Sega console these days with every damn game they made already built-in for fifty bucks.  True classics.   ::)

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yes I have actually played games like red dead redemtion, infamous, uncharted  and assasins greed I don't like them games deal with it. Didn't care about the story and if the 2nd part of infamous was better or worse than the first one. Plenty of friends have these games so yes again I actually played them games so there is a reason why I find them so bad. Would rather do something else with my free time.

Go back to your statement about if someone gave you PS3 games, you wouldn't want them in your library and would throw them out.  You said that.

I'm not lying I would actually do that believe it. I really don't care about pretty much all of the ps3 library. it's my opinion not a fanboy just zero interest in those games. It's not only for ps3 and xbox 360 games I just don't like to have trash on my shelves.

Again opinions you like mascots such as ratchet and clank while I find them mediocre. The only playstation mascots that are excellent in my eyes are snake and cloud wich both aren't even mascots pretty much a shame.

Also again why talk about value, I also am the kinda guy that get's pretty much all of his games for 5 pop a piece or less even the more expensive older titles in the modern days where these are overpriced.

@Maximo

Again It's my opinion and I do find them to be the worst consoles to be made nothing biased about if It's my opinion

Many people like these systems, seriously why care if one person does not like the ps3 that much.

Furthermore Your misunderstanding the concept with value for the nintendo titles being unique that had nothing to do with ps3 etc being the worst console. That part was about why wii games had value and ps3 and xbox 360 overall not that much.
desocietas:
Well, to get back on-topic, sworddude finds last gen to be boring while gf78 does not.



Cool beans; good talk, folks :)
gf78:

--- Quote from: desocietas on May 19, 2016, 05:09:53 pm ---Well, to get back on-topic, sworddude finds last gen to be boring while gf78 does not.



Cool beans; good talk, folks :)

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Yeah. I think it's over.
dreama1:

--- Quote from: Warmsignal on May 19, 2016, 09:58:11 am ---
--- Quote from: sworddude on May 19, 2016, 09:25:39 am ---
--- Quote from: marvelvscapcom2 on May 18, 2016, 10:53:58 pm ---I think 360 and PS3 are in the purgatory that every previous gen console gets stuck in. It isn't nostalgic yet and it isn't new and flashy. Not enough time has passed to make us miss It but In 10 years it will be nostalgic and collectible and we will love it again. But right now its all about PS4 and One. Which are pretty much 360 and PS3 with better graphics in all honesty. And it doesn't help that One and PS4 are rereleasing a lot of the gems from last gen on the next gen consoles. It limits are reasons to go back.

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What about the wii?

Same period, same gen yet way more games that are actually memorable and definitely raising in price big time.

PS3 And xbox 360 overall just inferior games of ps4 etc. Way less memorable unique games. Titles like the last of us or GTA will never be memorable on those inferior systems and games like journey or certain rpg's are already rising in value. Nothing will chance there aren't to many interesting titles out there anyway for these systems.

Your logic does not make any sense I highly doubt we will see a grow in prices of xbox 360 and ps3 except for the few unique titles and special CE. If it actually was the case than it should have been the same as wii wich it is not.

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I somewhat agree. The same way the Xbox and PS2 really aren't rising in value like GameCube, other than some niche games. Wii was my favorite, and I think it'll definitely be the tougher console to track down in the future by a lot, as will the Wii U.

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I have to agree as well. The ps2 game market is rather stone cold at the moment to be fair compared to the gamecube in general, a part from the horror and jrpg games of course. I think that much is clear.

Do you guys remember some months ago; some no name user on here with zero posts was trying to sell ps2 game discs that he had stored from blockbusters or something? Don't think he was able to sell a single one. I'm guessing they still cover his house. I think he would of done better for himself if he grabbed game cube discs, or just gave them to gf78 instead. The reasons for grabbing gamecube discs in that guys position as opposed to the other systems have already been stated as @sworddude said.

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