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VGCollect Site Stuff => Video Game Database Discussion => Topic started by: tripredacus on January 21, 2024, 11:02:43 am
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Link to Listing Errors 2018 Thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8857.0.html
Link to Listing Errors 2019 Thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9928.0.html
Link to 2020-21 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10555.0.html
Link to 2022 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11723.0.html
Link to 2023 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.0.html
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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204463.html#msg204463
No. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204464.html#msg204464
All Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into.
This is conflicting instruction, given the entry I originally linked (https://vgcollect.com/item/233123) is to house a Switch cartridge. Nevertheless, I've updated every Switch SteelBook entry which I've observed having removable barcode information. When applicable, I've differentiated if the label is a Nintendo Switch label or a generic one. Someone else with better accessibility can update the image fields. As long as the Description field makes note of the label, that is sufficient enough for now.
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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204463.html#msg204463
No. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204464.html#msg204464
All Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into.
This is conflicting instruction, given the entry I originally linked (https://vgcollect.com/item/233123) is to house a Switch cartridge. Nevertheless, I've updated every Switch SteelBook entry which I've observed having removable barcode information. When applicable, I've differentiated if the label is a Nintendo Switch label or a generic one. Someone else with better accessibility can update the image fields. As long as the Description field makes note of the label, that is sufficient enough for now.
I have submitted a back cover with the barcode to the one you originally linked.
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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204463.html#msg204463
No. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204464.html#msg204464
All Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into.
There was a link to a steelbook with a PS4 logo on it.
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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204463.html#msg204463
No. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204464.html#msg204464
All Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into.
There was a link to a steelbook with a PS4 logo on it.
The Gran Turismo Sport Steelbook entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/140114) I originally linked to puddingm as a guiding example via Admin Comments, mentioned in their forum post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204440.html#msg204440)? Yes, it does have a PS4 logo, and it's been placed correctly in PlayStation 4 Accessory for well over a year. Because of the case's printed logo, there is no required need for a back art submission. Regardless, a back cover submission alone wouldn't be the deciding factor as to whether the entry belongs in PlayStation 4 Accessory or Steelbooks, as the barcode label affixed to sealed copies is a generic one (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256024862805).
Had the example not had the front system logo, the only way it would be permitted in PlayStation 4 Accessory would be for an identifying label of sorts, as has been agreed upon, since it is a container designed to store discs (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266010931303). That said, not every SteelBook is sealed, has labels, or has identifying information printed on it. For containers like these that are also designed to hold discs which can't be identified to one specific system, they are then placed in the Steelbooks sub-cat, as you advised. But, to clarify for anyone else following along, a SteelBook designed to store cartridges known to be for Switch games may be placed in Nintendo Switch Accessory, whether or not outer identifying information is present.
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Going to wait until I'm certain on correct naming convention to add Formula 1 Variants to limit potential edits.
Also found this item but not certain on what would be the correct naming convention. https://www.ebay.fr/itm/363861535181
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Also found this item but not certain on what would be the correct naming convention. https://www.ebay.fr/itm/363861535181
To me, it seems as if the item already has a name: F1 2001 + NBA 2002 + Manette Analogique or Formula 1 2001 + NBA 2002 + Manette Analogique, depending on what sort of clarification is later given in response to this post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9352.msg204580.html#msg204580).
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F1 2001 in this instance. The naming rule is only for when their logo is used.
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Why does UFO Grendizer for PS5 keep getting deleted and why does this site delete the dev and publisher everytime I enter it?
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Why does UFO Grendizer for PS5 keep getting deleted and why does this site delete the dev and publisher everytime I enter it?
Do you mean the UFO Robot Grendizer: The Feast of the Wolves entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/260891) which is a part of your collection? As you can see, the entry has not been deleted.
While information can be typed into both the Developer and Publisher fields, an existing selectable item must be chosen. Items should appear to select, which must be clicked on. Only then will that information will appear. If there are developers or publishers not yet added, request them in this dedicated topic (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,5820.0.html).
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Item #257158 https://vgcollect.com/item/257158 (https://vgcollect.com/item/257158)
I made an edit to add the cover art of this entry but it seems the admin is confused of which is the correct artwork for this entry. They denied the edit and sent me an eBay link in the Admin comment asking me why is it different to the one I used. This is a game sold by Limited Run Games and it has a reversable cover. The cover I tried to add in my edit is the one show on their website and the one the Admin linked to me is the reversable cover as shown in the LRG page.
Here is the link to the LRG page: https://limitedrungames.com/collections/heart-of-the-woods/products/heart-of-the-woods-switch (https://limitedrungames.com/collections/heart-of-the-woods/products/heart-of-the-woods-switch)
Here is the link to the eBay listing the Admin sent to me in the notification comment of my edit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/395177877156 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/395177877156)
What is interesting is that Limited Run Games will print both sides and randomly ship one of the covers to their customers with them having the option to reverse it if they want to, which is something they commonly do for every release with reversable covers. The one I got is the one shown on the eBay link but i reversed it because I liked the one shown on LRG website better. So does this mean that the reverse cover should also get an entry in the database too? I noticed some entries got their reverse covers added as their own entries.
(ex. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World / Celeste)
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Item #257158 https://vgcollect.com/item/257158 (https://vgcollect.com/item/257158)
I made an edit to add the cover art of this entry but it seems the admin is confused of which is the correct artwork for this entry. They denied the edit and sent me an eBay link in the Admin comment asking me why is it different to the one I used. This is a game sold by Limited Run Games and it has a reversable cover. The cover I tried to add in my edit is the one show on their website and the one the Admin linked to me is the reversable cover as shown in the LRG page.
Here is the link to the LRG page: https://limitedrungames.com/collections/heart-of-the-woods/products/heart-of-the-woods-switch (https://limitedrungames.com/collections/heart-of-the-woods/products/heart-of-the-woods-switch)
Here is the link to the eBay listing the Admin sent to me in the notification comment of my edit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/395177877156 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/395177877156)
What is interesting is that Limited Run Games will print both sides and randomly ship one of the covers to their customers with them having the option to reverse it if they want to, which is something they commonly do for every release with reversable covers. The one I got is the one shown on the eBay link but i reversed it because I liked the one shown on LRG website better. So does this mean that the reverse cover should also get an entry in the database too? I noticed some entries got their reverse covers added as their own entries.
(ex. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World / Celeste)
Regarding items with reversible cover art, a second entry should only be submitted if it has been observed to exist while sealed. Any advertising imagery shown online which predates an item's release means very little, as we need to supply information based on the actual physical item. Since this item is newly-released, and we can only confirm artwork based on the limited amount of available items on eBay which all feature different artwork, I'm inclined to believe that all copies feature the art design featured on the existing eBay listings when sealed. At the very least, those several copies alongside your copy do. So, entry art should reflect that, since that is the available information we know. If it's later learned that there's a variant copy with the reversible art outward-facing when sealed, then it may be submitted at that time, but not now.
The Scott Pilgrim and Celeste items you're referencing do have variant entries relating to cover art, but that's because it's been confirmed copies exist sealed showing both sets of art.
So, in short, variant entries should not be submitted for every item which features reversible art, although that detail can be noted in the Description field. Variant entries for these kinds of items may only be submitted when observed sealed.
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This doesn't exist
https://vgcollect.com/item/76599
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This doesn't exist
https://vgcollect.com/item/76599
Merged with https://vgcollect.com/item/55150
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https://vgcollect.com/item/89726
There is no such thing as BE tag with pal snes
for this example it should be
[FR][NL] as usual
(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
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https://vgcollect.com/item/89726
There is no such thing as BE tag with pal snes
for this example it should be
[FR][NL] as usual
(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Posting this private response (despite my repeated requests for a public discussion) here since sworddude now believes the item was also sold in Belgium.
If where talking sales, it's definitely sold in belgium aswell. but it for sure was the case in the netherlands aswell. it's pretty much the main version. I don't see how it's even a question that the NL tag should be included with a FAH release game. I'm literally from said region.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/89726
There is no such thing as BE tag with pal snes
for this example it should be
[FR][NL] as usual
(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Posting this private response (despite my repeated requests for a public discussion) here since sworddude now believes the item was also sold in Belgium.
If where talking sales, it's definitely sold in belgium aswell. but it for sure was the case in the netherlands aswell. it's pretty much the main version. I don't see how it's even a question that the NL tag should be included with a FAH release game. I'm literally from said region.
It is yes, but I don't think sales region is a great method
Cause that would mean we'd need most european country tags on oldschool snes/ gameboy releases for UKV and NOE, cause those where sold brand new in a majority of europe aswell. Even FAH for many games was sold in quite some other countries of europe including the UK.
I do not believe this is the way to go. BE is not a good tag to use for this
Besides if BE is allowed, are we going to open the can of worms that is swiss tag. which is swiss german, italian and french.
sales region is a flawed system.
BE tag is basicly just NL/FR. it shouldn't deserve a seperate spot. it's just a region not a language. besides again FAH version is even sold in the UK back in the day for quite some games like R-type III
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I heavily second this. A clear majority of (but not all!) [FR][NL] games in the database should be [BE][FR][LU][NL] to truly represent their original market. And that only covers the market for french+dutch games… IMHO striving for country completion in the title for the european market is a wild goose chase, and doomed to be misleading *at best*. In this case most if not all european games with french & dutch on the box were released in Belgium, in addition of France, Netherlands, or both.
Listing languages on the box when a game has several language variations in a given region would be much less disputable.
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I heavily second this. A clear majority of (but not all!) [FR][NL] games in the database should be [BE][FR][LU][NL] to truly represent their original market. And that only covers the market for french+dutch games… IMHO striving for country completion in the title for the european market is a wild goose chase, and doomed to be misleading *at best*. In this case most if not all european games with french & dutch on the box were released in Belgium, in addition of France, Netherlands, or both.
Listing languages on the box when a game has several language variations in a given region would be much less disputable.
Attaching TLD information to entry names based on language text leads to more problems than based on country of origin.
- Consider items without any packaging text.
- Consider items with only one regional release, regardless of the amount of languages present.
- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
- Consider items which a language is present that doesn't directly relate to its country of origin. For instance, are you suggesting Canadian entries be tagged as [FR]? Brazilian items be tagged as [PT]? There are plenty of items originating from Asia with only English as the language text, even.
- Consider items which are regional variants only based on a label, or the few which are unique based on an included component like a different instruction booklet. Hundreds of these sorts of items already exist within the database, and their packaging languages are the exact same as others.
- Consider regional variant items which rely on descriptors solely instead of TLDs, such as 245945 (https://vgcollect.com/item/245945). TLDs should only be attached when multiple entries within the same exact name in the same category exist, so a TLD isn't used in this situation. With your proposal, there would be.
We won't be making an exception rule or altering the rules altogether due to one specific region of categories. You suggest how some entry name TLDs may be "misleading," but I don't see how that can be if sufficient information is supplied. Numerous other form fields coincide with the Name field which can mitigate this issue. If there is confusion relating to what an entry is intended to represent based on an entry's name alone, then that almost certainly means other fields were either filled out incorrectly or omitted altogether. In no ideal situation should the Name field be the only explanation as to what an item is, with image, Barcode, and Item Number fields being most helpful. At the same time, if there is incorrect data, it is usually straightforward to correct. Likewise, if existing information is correct but incomplete, that is simple to amend.
Also recognize that every item is released differently, meaning every single item in the database should be analyzed individually. So, for example, if there are some Dutch items where it can be confirmed that they were also released in France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, or wherever, then submit that information. Some information is difficult for staff to confirm on our own, so it's never wrong to post to the forums in this very topic to preemptively explain certain edits with verifying links, as the topic post outlines, before the submission is responded to by staff.
While the current TLD and descriptor systems aren't perfect, they're the best we're to work with given the site's current development and limitations. Ideally, there would be one master entry for each game, so to speak, with all variants including regional ones accessible from the same page. However, that isn't how the site is currently built. So, we compromise until something better is made.
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I heavily second this. A clear majority of (but not all!) [FR][NL] games in the database should be [BE][FR][LU][NL] to truly represent their original market. And that only covers the market for french+dutch games… IMHO striving for country completion in the title for the european market is a wild goose chase, and doomed to be misleading *at best*. In this case most if not all european games with french & dutch on the box were released in Belgium, in addition of France, Netherlands, or both.
Listing languages on the box when a game has several language variations in a given region would be much less disputable.
Attaching TLD information to entry names based on language text leads to more problems than based on country of origin.
- Consider items without any packaging text.
- Consider items with only one regional release, regardless of the amount of languages present.
- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
- Consider items which a language is present that doesn't directly relate to its country of origin. For instance, are you suggesting Canadian entries be tagged as [FR]? Brazilian items be tagged as [PT]? There are plenty of items originating from Asia with only English as the language text, even.
- Consider items which are regional variants only based on a label, or the few which are unique based on an included component like a different instruction booklet. Hundreds of these sorts of items already exist within the database, and their packaging languages are the exact same as others.
- Consider regional variant items which rely on descriptors solely instead of TLDs, such as 245945 (https://vgcollect.com/item/245945). TLDs should only be attached when multiple entries within the same exact name in the same category exist, so a TLD isn't used in this situation. With your proposal, there would be.
We won't be making an exception rule or altering the rules altogether due to one specific region of categories. You suggest how some entry name TLDs may be "misleading," but I don't see how that can be if sufficient information is supplied. Numerous other form fields coincide with the Name field which can mitigate this issue. If there is confusion relating to what an entry is intended to represent based on an entry's name alone, then that almost certainly means other fields were either filled out incorrectly or omitted altogether. In no ideal situation should the Name field be the only explanation as to what an item is, with image, Barcode, and Item Number fields being most helpful. At the same time, if there is incorrect data, it is usually straightforward to correct. Likewise, if existing information is correct but incomplete, that is simple to amend.
Also recognize that every item is released differently, meaning every single item in the database should be analyzed individually. So, for example, if there are some Dutch items where it can be confirmed that they were also released in France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, or wherever, then submit that information. Some information is difficult for staff to confirm on our own, so it's never wrong to post to the forums in this very topic to preemptively explain certain edits with verifying links, as the topic post outlines, before the submission is responded to by staff.
While the current TLD and descriptor systems aren't perfect, they're the best we're to work with given the site's current development and limitations. Ideally, there would be one master entry for each game, so to speak, with all variants including regional ones accessible from the same page. However, that isn't how the site is currently built. So, we compromise until something better is made.
Adding sales region in the european section a can of worms you do not want to enter.
your just making up ridiculous rules that hardly matter to most collectors and make stuff super complicated withouth actually providing details that matter. Where is the actual benefit of this system? it is imo non existent. Sometimes I really think your the only 1 that likes these changes. Could be wrong on that but it feels like it at times.
Let's just keep it clean and simple.
There are not many problems if where sticking to languages for europe. if you really have a specific item you can make exceptions, but this should not be an issue for 99% of games.
say you got a sports game that was just specificly for said country with exclusive clubs. you can go ahead and go crazy with your over the top rules and say it's a BE or whatever game, It should only matter for mostly some sports of singstar games.
Besides collectors for games are not looking for a regional version, they are just looking for a copy in their language. Nobody is saying that they are looking for a Belgium game ::)
Why should we complicate the ez codes that are already given to use.
Such as UKV FAH, NOE, SCN HOL. we used to just list these codes behind said games and that was literally perfect since collectors used those codes all the time. Languages are fine enough aswell but I never got why that was altered. Sales region is just not the way to go.
I've already seen the BE code spread throughout many items in the database which just doesn't make any sense. Like a BE coded shadow of the collosus ps2, like wtf is that https://vgcollect.com/item/33616
It doesn't even exist. game that was released in belgium had 4 languages, and how is that BE exclusive? Not to mention french and english only copies where in that same region aswell
I hope some folks can get Dhaabi back to the land of the living cause his idea's are getting out of hand :o
If Dhaabi does succeed with this horrible idea, I'm not going to help him with this wild goose chase that will just dilute the site with useless information. cause it's just another downgrade to this otherwise cool site.
Let's just keep it at either languages or the OG codes that are listed on said games UKV FAH, HOL, NOE, SCN etc like what it used to be before Presumably Dhaabi altered it
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Adding sales region in the european section a can of worms you do not want to enter.
Let's just keep it at either languages or the OG codes that are listed on said games UKV FAH, HOL, NOE, SCN etc like what it used to be before Presumably Dhaabi altered it
+1 to the chuckle or two you got out of me.
This isn't the place to engage in this sort of conversation (make a separate topic for it) nor do I feel like responding in-depth since you ignored everything I mentioned above. But, I will say this: these rules were set long before I ever started contributing to the site, let alone became a staff member. Like other rules you have taken issue with, I am merely enforcing them. In that regard, this "can of worms" has been opened for years, although you seem to have only just noticed it. Again, if you have an issue with certain rules or have ideas as to provide better alternatives, I would suggest creating a topic in the Site Feedback section (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/board,2.0.html) where a more engaging and on-topic discussion can be made.
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Adding sales region in the european section a can of worms you do not want to enter.
Let's just keep it at either languages or the OG codes that are listed on said games UKV FAH, HOL, NOE, SCN etc like what it used to be before Presumably Dhaabi altered it
+1 to the chuckle or two you got out of me.
This isn't the place to engage in this sort of conversation (make a separate topic for it) nor do I feel like responding in-depth since you ignored everything I mentioned above. But, I will say this: these rules were set long before I ever started contributing to the site, let alone became a staff member. Like other rules you have taken issue with, I am merely enforcing them. In that regard, this "can of worms" has been opened for years, although you seem to have only just noticed it. Again, if you have an issue with certain rules or have ideas as to provide better alternatives, I would suggest creating a topic in the Site Feedback section (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/board,2.0.html) where a more engaging and on-topic discussion can be made.
BE code was not a thing 1 or max 2 months ago. I've checked since people tend to add different countries to already existing listings.
if it did exist earlier it wasn't as wide spread, BE code in even the snes catalogue is just outrageous. defo not more than 1 month ago I'd say
My feedback is to just use the codes. UKV, FAH, HOL etc
that's the best way, no need for language tags on games either than. Stuff like canadian releases with french shouldn't be an issue, they are already in a seperate region anyway. people know what to expect let's not state the obvious. no need for any tags if said games are in the canadian section anyway. Same stuff for Australian versions etc
I'll say this though,
Listings such as these are just filler. it's just wrong. I would suggest removing at the very least the BE tag. and this was previously just a generic english version of it considering the amount of people that have it in the collection. It's a vgcollect classic, altering previously english releases to versions 90+% of the people don't have.
https://vgcollect.com/item/33616
this is your version with the matching barcode ending with an 8 your looking at.
How is this just BE region?
Just saying, this european version is pretty much a thing in most of europe I'd say, are we really going to tag 5+ countries here
(https://i.imgur.com/xjWtwfg.jpeg)
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BE code was not a thing 1 or max 2 months ago. I've checked since people tend to add different countries to already existing listings.
if it did exist earlier it wasn't as wide spread, BE code in even the snes catatelogue is just outrageous. defo not more than 1 month ago I'd say
How is this just BE region?
Refer to the Release Country TLD Master List topic post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,7009.msg108576.html#msg108576) which was last updated in 2022 and the TLDs and Import Labels post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg179397.html#msg179397) of the Advanced Style Guide which was last updated in 2021.
Also, refer to my aforementioned post which you ignored. 33616 was also likely sold (https://feniks-games-consoles.nl/products/shadow-of-the-colossus-playstation-2) in NL. Whenever I updated its entry name, I probably could only confirm BE which would explain why there's only one TLD. From my observations, when there are multiple regional variants for an item in PlayStation categories, it means there is not usually a general European release. Across other regional markets, I've found no evidence of 33616 being sold, although it could be later confirmed.
At the same time, if there is incorrect data, it is usually straightforward to correct. Likewise, if existing information is correct but incomplete, that is simple to amend.
My feedback is to just use the codes. UKV, FAH, HOL etc
These three-letter codes are predominantly tied to Nintendo items, mostly in Europe. Some publishers, like Capcom (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11436.msg202210.html#msg202210), feature similar codes, but they are not widespread nor standardized worldwide. Like I've already mentioned, exceptions won't be made for one specific type of category, because rules need to exist for the entire database which catalogs items from across the world. Were we to implement this, how do you suggest we tag items from Singapore (https://vgcollect.com/item/245963)? Or Kenya (https://vgcollect.com/item/220681)? Even in Europe, what about items from Lithuania (https://vgcollect.com/item/239464)? Ukraine (https://vgcollect.com/item/208391)? Greece (https://vgcollect.com/item/190155)? Whatever rule is in place needs to account for all items, not just the small number of ones you're personally concerned about.
I will also briefly mention some modern Asian items placed in CN categories. These three entries are all general Asia releases, yet have conflicting codes: ASI (https://vgcollect.com/item/171746), CHT (https://vgcollect.com/item/244867), JPN (https://vgcollect.com/item/226516).
Stuff like canadian releases with french shouldn't be an issue, they are already in a seperate region anyway. people know what to expect let's not state the obvious. no need for any tags if said games are in the canadian section anyway.
The database has two (https://vgcollect.com/browse/cd32ca) dedicated (https://vgcollect.com/browse/nesca) yet small CA sections. All other CA items are placed in NA categories. Stating the obvious is adding tags for every language present on an item's packaging, but I digress.
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If where going by your method. snes would have a canadian section. there are differences between carts.
Not to mention I'm fairly sure a ton of snes games never had a unique canadian release and are the regular usa release and thus you'd need to add canadian sales region to 30 - 50% prob more of the USA database for older consoles? cause of those games being sold in canada back in the day anyway it's the only version.
if your going to add sales region to pal games, why not add them to usa games aswell for canadian tag if no canadian versions exists which I can almost guarantee you is a hell lot of said library ::)
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The database has two (https://vgcollect.com/browse/cd32ca) dedicated (https://vgcollect.com/browse/nesca) yet small CA sections. All other CA items are placed in NA categories. Stating the obvious is adding tags for every language present on an item's packaging, but I digress.
stating the obvious is just adding nothing to it. If said games are in aus or Canadian category already nothing else needs to be said. it's obvious.
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If said games are in aus or Canadian category already nothing else needs to be said. it's obvious.
Correct. This is why you will never find [EU] and [NA] TLDs as part of entry names in their respective regional categories. Likewise, you won't find the [US] TLD in NA categories, because there are never NA and US releases. However, there are EU and UK releases, which is why there are sometimes items marked as [UK] in EU categories.
Never use a TLD in an item title where the item is in a category that has the same TLD in its name.
Examples:
- don't have ITEM NAME [EU] in CATEGORY [EU]
- don't have ITEM NAME [US] in CATEGORY [NA]
Not to mention I'm fairly sure a ton of snes games never had a unique canadian release and are the regular usa release and thus you'd need to add canadian sales region to 30 - 50% prob more of the USA database for older consoles? cause of those games being sold in canada back in the day anyway it's the only version.
if your going to add sales region to pal games, why not add them to usa games aswell for canadian tag if no canadian versions exists which I can almost guarantee you is a hell lot of said library ::)
With my above comment in mind, the [CA] TLD tag is never assigned unless there is a CA regional variant. In short, all entries in regional categories have an assigned TLD, as each of their respective categories are assigned one. So, for example, a NL item may feature a [NL] TLD in its entry name, but it also has an assumed [EU] TLD. That said, the only reason to assign a [CA] TLD is when there is both a NA or US copy of an item and a CA one. This is because all entries in NA categories without regional variants are assumed to already have a [NA] TLD which supersedes specific regional TLDs.
If where going by your method. snes would have a canadian section. there are differences between carts.
While I understand why the Amiga CD32 [CA] sub-category exists since it was not released in the United States, the NES [CA] sub-category is an anomaly. That it should exist or instead be merged into NES [US] to form NES [NA] is something I can't comment on until I understand the situation better.
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- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
There is no need to rehash this conversation, we already have the format for identifying language. It is the standard ISO-639+ISO-3166 locale combination. We just do not use it on the site anywhere as it does not actually help in regards to making the site easier to use. They would be used if we were to attach language information to an entry, either privately (as a var) or publicly likely would be a hidden value that would load a different resource like an image to represent the value. This particular format would allow separation between locales, such as en-US vs en-GB, or for French there are fr-CA, fr-FR, fr-BE or fr-CH...
Use of TLD is not ideal and is only required based on how the site is designed.
Amiga CD32 [CA] category is an anomaly, and likely is going to get merged with the EU cat once the site reliability issue is resolved.
NES [CA] is from before my time as staff, there is no much of a situation to understand. It doesn't hurt to exist.
Also, current categories or how they appear are also due to the original design of the site which has not changed. Remember that the site was not originally designed for the amount of items we currently cover. A different design to the site could eliminate the way categories are viewed and could also eliminate the usage of TLDs (or even descriptors) in item titles. Until something like that happens, we will continue to use the TLD and descriptors the way we do now.
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I heavily second this. A clear majority of (but not all!) [FR][NL] games in the database should be [BE][FR][LU][NL] to truly represent their original market. And that only covers the market for french+dutch games… IMHO striving for country completion in the title for the european market is a wild goose chase, and doomed to be misleading *at best*. In this case most if not all european games with french & dutch on the box were released in Belgium, in addition of France, Netherlands, or both.
Listing languages on the box when a game has several language variations in a given region would be much less disputable.
Attaching TLD information to entry names based on language text leads to more problems than based on country of origin.
- Consider items without any packaging text.
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- Consider items with only one regional release, regardless of the amount of languages present.
Same as today; only one entry in a region => no need to explicitely state the sale countries. Could be the same with languages.
- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
EN must be the language code for english in some ANSI standard as well as some ISO standard. I would be astonished if not the case.
And again, it would only appear when necessary.
- Consider items which a language is present that doesn't directly relate to its country of origin. For instance, are you suggesting Canadian entries be tagged as [FR]? Brazilian items be tagged as [PT]? There are plenty of items originating from Asia with only English as the language text, even.
I hardly see the problem here: an NA entry with french on the box obviously was not published in France, but most definitely (at least) in Canada.
Same goes for a game with portuguese that targeted the south american market.
- Consider items which are regional variants only based on a label, or the few which are unique based on an included component like a different instruction booklet. Hundreds of these sorts of items already exist within the database, and their packaging languages are the exact same as others.
If we’re talking of stuff like the portuguese IGAC stamp, maybe an “(with IGAC stamp)” mention would be crystal clear?
- Consider regional variant items which rely on descriptors solely instead of TLDs, such as 245945 (https://vgcollect.com/item/245945). TLDs should only be attached when multiple entries within the same exact name in the same category exist, so a TLD isn't used in this situation. With your proposal, there would be.
Nope. My proposal is to replace the rule of “use country codes, when necessary“, with a rule of “use language codes, when necessary”.
IMHO that would change absolutely nothing for the entry you linked here.
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The thing is, we all agree there’s a problem: splitting markets into regions is not enough, as some games got several versions in a same region, with the only changes being a) the region’s countries there were sold in and b) the languages printed on the box.
*I* think the current solution is unsatisfactory because fundamentally flawed by the lack of clear information about countries a game is / were sold in, especially for old games (and perhaps more especially within the EU “single” market).
On the other hand, the thing with languages printed maybe 30 years ago on a box is that everybody that owns this box has a direct, undisputable access to the information about what languages are printed on said box. Using that instead of the country is easy, verifiable, correctable and reproducible. 4 qualities the country code lacks, if you ask me.
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I've had to bring this up before, now I am going to have to do so again...
I just listed a game White Day 2. The game has a subtitle but it also is noted as a Complete Edition. From my understanding and what I read in the sites style guide it should be formatted as:
Tile: Subtitle - Edition
White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies - Complete Edition
Yet, I find my listing had been edited to:
Tile: Subtitle: Edition
White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies: Complete Edition
Other than looking like crap, it also doesn't specify the difference between the subtitle and edition. So can we stop with re-editing listings this way?
Amazon has the game listed in the way I have recomended also:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/White-Day-Flower-Tells-Complete/dp/B0CV7XFDBH/
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I just listed a game White Day 2. The game has a subtitle but it also is noted as a Complete Edition. From my understanding and what I read in the sites style guide it should be formatted as:
Tile: Subtitle - Edition
White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies - Complete Edition
The formatting style originally submitted is incorrect. Hyphen edition formatting ( - x Edition) should be used to denote an item which is a special, limited, or budget release. However, colon edition formatting (:x Edition) should be used to denote when a game has been released as a second, entirely different item under a different name. The latter will often be used relating to most "Complete," "Gold," "Ultimate," and so forth edition types.
For physical releases that have a special, limited or budget release outside of the standard game release, we put the Edition Name after the game name using a hyphen ( - ) symbol.
Edition re-release versus Edition game title
The original release for Fallout: New Vegas has a "regular" release and a Collector's Edition.
Fallout: New Vegas (https://vgcollect.com/item/5385)
Fallout: New Vegas - Collector's Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/17068)
This game was then released a second time with a new title, as well as additional budget releases. In this case, the main release does not use the hyphen, while the budget releases do.
Fallout: New Vegas: Ultimate Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/22346)
Fallout: New Vegas: Ultimate Edition - Greatest Hits (https://vgcollect.com/item/129108)
Fallout: New Vegas: Ultimate Edition - Platinum Hits (https://vgcollect.com/item/141314)
We know that White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies: Complete Edition is a different item because, originally, all three episodes were sold separately. The "Complete Edition" item now packages all three episodes alongside every DLC into one item. From the Steam store page (https://store.steampowered.com/app/2078040/White_Day_2_The_Flower_That_Tells_Lies__Complete_Edition/) (which we should assume will be the same for other platforms, considering this item has yet to be actually released as a physical item):
White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies - Complete Edition brings together the interlocking stories of all three episodes along with every released DLC into one definitive package.
Our site's formatting rules supersedes others'.
Our formatting rules override a common title as listed on another website.
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Other than looking like crap, it also doesn't specify the difference between the subtitle and edition. So can we stop with re-editing listings this way?
This change was due to a community poll: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11879.0.html
You are free to request a re-vote by posting here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html
Since the vote winner was by a large margin, a re-vote may not reproduce different results.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/198525 I updated the image on Samurai Warriors 5 because the uploaded image used placeholder art without the ESRB information. the image i used was pulled from gamestop's website.
I'm curious as to why the edit was refused.
I did upload 2 different images but the second one was better and should be used over whats on the database now.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/198525 I updated the image on Samurai Warriors 5 because the uploaded image used placeholder art without the ESRB information. the image i used was pulled from gamestop's website.
I'm curious as to why the edit was refused.
I did upload 2 different images but the second one was better and should be used over whats on the database now.
When multiple image files are submitted (by one or multiple users) to the same field before anyone can respond to the edit submission, the last file submitted overwrites previous ones. So, whatever last image submitted by you is the only one which was visible in the edit queue. Once I responded to the first edit, there was no need to approve the second as a result of the site recognizing the two submissions as the exact same. So, the second edit was rejected as Information Already Exists.
Be sure to clear your browser cache in the event you're viewing older entry image data too.
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Other than looking like crap, it also doesn't specify the difference between the subtitle and edition. So can we stop with re-editing listings this way?
This change was due to a community poll: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11879.0.html
You are free to request a re-vote by posting here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html
Since the vote winner was by a large margin, a re-vote may not reproduce different results.
Maybe it's just early in the morning, but I don't see anywhere in that poll that says we would move to use colons? It's all about dashes and descriptors.
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This change was due to a community poll: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11879.0.html
Maybe it's just early in the morning, but I don't see anywhere in that poll that says we would move to use colons? It's all about dashes and descriptors.
Full explanations along with examples are outlined in the topic post. I imagine that the polling options are written that way to maintain brevity.
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I'm not going to make edits because it'll just get rejected, but I'll inform folks so maybe Dhaabi can fix it. All of the PS4 Accessory listings for the 20th anniversary controllers are incorrect in their description
"packaging text in English, French model #: CUH-ZCT1U embossed touchpad with 2, O, X, square, triangle symbols available as a part of the Sony PlayStation 4 20th Anniversary Edition boxed release or as a standalone retail release"
Console release of the controller has the iconography on the touchpad, all standalone retail releases do not have the iconography on the touchpad. They are different controllers.
https://vgcollect.com/item/109896
https://vgcollect.com/item/95683
https://vgcollect.com/item/229616
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Console release of the controller has the iconography on the touchpad, all standalone retail releases do not have the iconography on the touchpad. They are different controllers.
https://vgcollect.com/item/109896
https://vgcollect.com/item/95683
https://vgcollect.com/item/229616
I've updated 109896 (https://vgcollect.com/item/109896) and 95683 (https://vgcollect.com/item/95683) based on edit history while also submitting a new entry for the US boxed release (https://vgcollect.com/item/262848).
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https://vgcollect.com/item/68195
Correct item number is 4MY00006
I assume 4MY00010 is the Italian Variant.
https://vgcollect.com/item/83992
The front image is stock, will submit replacement
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https://vgcollect.com/item/68195
Correct item number is 4MY00006
I assume 4MY00010 is the Italian Variant.
https://vgcollect.com/item/83992
The front image is stock, will submit replacement
Front image submission approved. For spine information, we should treat a forced line break as a space—not as one single string nor as a hyphenated one. I rejected that Item Number field submission, along with a few others which you'll see on your Notifications page, for that reason. If that information is re-submitted with the correct formatting, they'll be approved.
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This barcode appears to be Australian
Forza Motorsport 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/31692
https://www.ebay.com.au/p/1243662035?iid=364594022888
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This barcode appears to be Australian
Forza Motorsport 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/31692
https://www.ebay.com.au/p/1243662035?iid=364594022888
There seems to be many different versions of this game, even in AU. Changed it to the UK version that matches the front stock art, of course I think this version isn't the 2 discs version so the disc art is removed. Also can't confirm spine so that number had to go also.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/4195
Game appeared to of got cancelled.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/561859-imperator
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I have two questions regarding game titles.
1- https://vgcollect.com/item/70216 (https://vgcollect.com/item/70216)
I'm aware that it is mostly known in the west as Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu.
However, that name is nowhere to be found on the Japanese release.
So, I think it should be listed here as Jackie Chan.
2- https://vgcollect.com/item/110157 (https://vgcollect.com/item/110157)
The box reads "Nemesis" in alphabet and "グラディウス" ("Guradiusu" or "Gradius") in katakana.
I know that we primarily list games by their names in alphabet on the box, but I was wondering if maybe we should rename it to "Gradius". I don't know...
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I have two questions regarding game titles.
1- https://vgcollect.com/item/70216 (https://vgcollect.com/item/70216)
I'm aware that it is mostly known in the west as Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu.
However, that name is nowhere to be found on the Japanese release.
So, I think it should be listed here as Jackie Chan.
2- https://vgcollect.com/item/110157 (https://vgcollect.com/item/110157)
The box reads "Nemesis" in alphabet and "グラディウス" ("Guradiusu" or "Gradius") in katakana.
I know that we primarily list games by their names in alphabet on the box, but I was wondering if maybe we should rename it to "Gradius". I don't know...
For the PCE game, the first place I look is on GameFAQs and it has the titles like you say
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/tg16/588998-jackie-chans-action-kung-fu/data
So it can be changed.
Same is true for the MSX game
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/msx/917743-nemesis/data
Sp you can put in an edit for both.
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ended up with a blank one
https://vgcollect.com/item/263232
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Not sure if this is the proper forum, but here goes. With the creation of a new 3DO [KR] category, the following items should be transferred to the new section:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262973
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115027
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115026
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262977
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115028
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262580
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115029
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262582
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Not sure if this is the proper forum, but here goes. With the creation of a new 3DO [KR] category, the following items should be transferred to the new section:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262973
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115027
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115026
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262977
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115028
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262580
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115029
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262582
You can submit the edits to change to the new category.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/263783 https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/fifa-11-ps2-1240419710/
https://vgcollect.com/item/263856 https://www.ebay.at/itm/126125038318
Quick clarification to my edit. (As it is a bit Strange)
Seemingly the FIFA 11 release is unique in the series as it does not follow the set pattern.
It appears that the First item is a cross AT and CH Release while the Second item is just AT. As such I'm having to use the item number as a descriptor.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/263783 https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/fifa-11-ps2-1240419710/
https://vgcollect.com/item/263856 https://www.ebay.at/itm/126125038318
Quick clarification to my edit. (As it is a bit Strange)
Seemingly the FIFA 11 release is unique in the series as it does not follow the set pattern.
It appears that the First item is a cross AT and CH Release while the Second item is just AT. As such I'm having to use the item number as a descriptor.
As these item numbers appear on the back, you need to put in description
Other back item number: n
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https://vgcollect.com/item/58161
Barcode edit to 5030930041984 as barcode doesn't match Images - NL barcode - Uk Images.
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blank one
https://vgcollect.com/item/263962
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Jumbo Funko Pops need to denoted by something in the title, title gets denied due to it. Please explain further why it can't be in the title what edition this pop is? Or should there be two squirtle entries with the exact same naming. because right now the Jumbo version is the one in the database and the small one needs to be added.
https://vgcollect.com/item/168704 - This is the Jumbo edition, what they call their 10 inches https://funko.com/pop-jumbo-glaceon/68378.html, it's not the regular small squirtle pop
The edition should be at the end should it not? Or am I thinking about it wrongly?
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Jumbo Funko Pops need to denoted by something in the title, title gets denied due to it. Please explain further why it can't be in the title what edition this pop is? Or should there be two squirtle entries with the exact same naming. because right now the Jumbo version is the one in the database and the small one needs to be added.
https://vgcollect.com/item/168704 - This is the Jumbo edition, what they call their 10 inches https://funko.com/pop-jumbo-glaceon/68378.html, it's not the regular small squirtle pop
The edition should be at the end should it not? Or am I thinking about it wrongly?
Jumbo Edition should not be added to the Name, as nowhere on the item's packaging is that term used, as seen from this eBay listing (https://www.ebay.com/itm/304808210636). Even from the Funko store page link you provided (for another item, mind you), the term "Jumbo Edition" isn't used, so supplying the term to the Alt-Name field should also be omitted.
There are numerous variants for the Squirtle Funko Pop figures such as this one (https://www.ebay.com/itm/183885478318), but only one entry exists in the database. So, until variant entries are added, entry name descriptors should not be added to the Name field. But, at any point, additional information can be submitted to other fields which will help other members know exactly what 168704 is intended to represent, although the existing front art is fine in conveying that (despite its low effort and poor quality.) If at any point other entries are added, then descriptors such as (504) and (505) can be submitted.
However, I feel compelled to mention that, even though our database currently tracks these sorts of items, there shouldn't be some mass effort to catalog all these variants unless a member were to actually own them, simply because there are other sites far more suitable and dedicated to tracking toy (and specifically Funko) information. Only about half of our site's entry fields are relevant to toys specifically alongside very few members using the site to interact with these entries.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/230949 (https://vgcollect.com/item/230949)
I recently submitted new photos, along with release date and rating info that was denied. The info I submitted is for the same item as this existing item. The PEGI12 rating is a sticker on the outside cellophane. Once the packaging is removed, the case has no rating on the front cover. (As depicted in the current stock photo used.) The release date info was sourced from gamefaqs for the Stricly Limited release, which this item is.
Additionally, the developer is specifically stated on the back cover as QUByte Game Studio, but this game is listed on the Qubyte Interactive website as them having handled the port. https://www.qubyteinteractive.com/site/?page_id=761 (https://www.qubyteinteractive.com/site/?page_id=761)
I assumed they were the same company and wasn't sure exactly how to handle that one, but Qubyte Interactive was the only available option and it seemed correct to me.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/230949 (https://vgcollect.com/item/230949)
Every copy of the item I've found on eBay is sealed, like the one I linked (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/315095023783) to you in the Admin Comments, yet none feature the PEGI 12 rating label. To me, this indicates they're two different items—one with a PEGI 12 rating label and one without. Both should feature a USK 16 rating on the actual cartridgeas evident from the store product page (https://www.strictlylimitedgames.com/products/zero-tolerance-collection-ps4), but I've not confirmed it.
Information should not be taken so blindly from other sources without verifying it yourself. Just like our site, sites like GameFAQs are user-submitted, meaning there is plenty of incorrect information. Here is a Twitter post (https://twitter.com/Juganawt/status/1583451083468607495) dated October 21, 2022 which showcases the item, which is a full five weeks earlier than GameFAQ's November 28 listed date (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/switch/365394-qubyte-classics-zero-tolerance-collection/data). For many online exclusive items, a specific date will never be able to be determined. At best, we can supply Month and Year. In this instance, without further information, Year alone is fine. All things considered, we therefore do not know when the PEGI 12 rating label variant was released, so not Release Date information should be submitted until confirmed.
Some staff confirm developer and publisher information through MobyGames, some others confirm it from the item itself. If there is conflicting data, I will always accept the submission so long as it is listed on one of those two sources. With that said, MobyGames lists the port being developed from Piko Interactive (https://www.mobygames.com/game/193590/qubyte-classics-zero-tolerance-collection-by-piko/releases/playstation-4/), whereas the product itself lists QUByte Game Studio as the developer. Sometimes publisher and developer names are similar but vary as they're different entities. I don't know if that's the case in this circumstance, though.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/11648
is a frankenstein entry:
data and cartridge pictures fits: 1983 Atari INC release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_7357.html
back cover fits: 1988 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18228.html
front cover could be either 1988 release or 1987 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18227.html
could this please be resolved. I could provide better pictures for a '88 release
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https://vgcollect.com/item/11648
is a frankenstein entry:
data and cartridge pictures fits: 1983 Atari INC release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_7357.html
back cover fits: 1988 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18228.html
front cover could be either 1988 release or 1987 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18227.html
could this please be resolved. I could provide better pictures for a '88 release
It looks like front image is original and all the rest was added later, so everything was removed except the front image. So make it either of the two entries that you say are related to the front cover.
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Cool Boarders 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/29674
This barcode appears to be Australian, presumably wrong image front being used.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/325452306388?epid=25024723380
Also since I've already posted, no English language Eu version of Fire Pro Wrestling Returns exists so changing existing list to ES
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Cool Boarders 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/29674
This barcode appears to be Australian, presumably wrong image front being used.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/325452306388?epid=25024723380
29674 merged into 228638 (https://vgcollect.com/item/228638). A proper entry for the Australian release has also been created, which is here (https://vgcollect.com/item/264307).
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Your edit to Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy was rejected.
Monday April 15th, 2024 at 10:34 AM
Field: developer
New Value: 5745
Reason: Information Already on File. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
No it isn't. Currently there is Atari in the system which is Warner owned Atari. There are 3x Ataris. in Early 1990s they have nothing to do with each other. Atari Corp. owned by Tramel, Atari Games former Namco owned and Atari Holding which is still owned by Warner.
Btw it would be nice to see which of the Mods discarded this.
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Your edit to Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy was rejected.
Monday April 15th, 2024 at 10:34 AM
Field: developer
New Value: 5745
Reason: Information Already on File. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
No it isn't. Currently there is Atari in the system which is Warner owned Atari. There are 3x Ataris. in Early 1990s they have nothing to do with each other. Atari Corp. owned by Tramel, Atari Games former Namco owned and Atari Holding which is still owned by Warner.
Btw it would be nice to see which of the Mods discarded this.
It was me, to perhaps spur discussion about Devs list. As some cleanup work has been done in the list, but there are still duplicates.
Is Atari not Atari Corporation or the other way around? There are 5 options:
Atari
Atari Corporation
Atari Games
Atari Interactive
Atarisoft
Are all of these valid? Should Atari be removed and add Atari Holding instead?
Or should all of them be just changed to Atari?
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I do believe that this entry for Assassins Creed Black Flag WiiU sould be deleted, there is no stand alone Mexico release of this game
https://vgcollect.com/item/218227
There is a USA release and a 3 language Canada/Mexico release
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I do believe that this entry for Assassins Creed Black Flag WiiU sould be deleted, there is no stand alone Mexico release of this game
https://vgcollect.com/item/218227
There is a USA release and a 3 language Canada/Mexico release
The difference between 218227 and 158288 (https://vgcollect.com/item/158288) is the Mexican import distribution label found on the former. It is not unusual that the only difference for region-specific items to be in the form of a label. From the TLDs and Import Labels post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg179397.html#msg179397) of the Advanced Style Guide:
Import Labels
Some countries will import a game from another region and just put an import or declaration label on the packaging. Sometimes this label is only on the outer shrinkwrap of sealed copies, sometimes it is on the box or case itself. Items like this can be added to the database using the appropriate TLD.
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Your edit to Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy was rejected.
Monday April 15th, 2024 at 10:34 AM
Field: developer
New Value: 5745
Reason: Information Already on File. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
No it isn't. Currently there is Atari in the system which is Warner owned Atari. There are 3x Ataris. in Early 1990s they have nothing to do with each other. Atari Corp. owned by Tramel, Atari Games former Namco owned and Atari Holding which is still owned by Warner.
Btw it would be nice to see which of the Mods discarded this.
It was me, to perhaps spur discussion about Devs list. As some cleanup work has been done in the list, but there are still duplicates.
Is Atari not Atari Corporation or the other way around? There are 5 options:
Atari
Atari Corporation
Atari Games
Atari Interactive
Atarisoft
Are all of these valid? Should Atari be removed and add Atari Holding instead?
Or should all of them be just changed to Atari?
Atari full name is "Atari Inc."
-> Ataris Videogame division (including Home Computers) was sold to to "Jack Tramiel" (in 1984 - yes the previous owner of Commodore) which was named Atari Corporation or Atari Corp.
-> Ataris Arcade division was sold to Namco (1985) which was named Atari Games. End of 1990s Warner bought them back was integrated into Midway. For some time they used the Name "Atari Games" but as a company was integrated into Midway. Midway as a company also ceased to exists and is part of Warner Bros Games by now.
--> Atari Games video game subsidiary was Tengen
-> Technically there was a Telecommunications division which was sold to an electronic company. But for the focus of this page irrelevant.
-> Atari Inc was renamed after all that to Atari Holding but never produced anything, was afaik only to hold rights and maybe some estates. It was integrated into parent company Warner in Mid 90s without producing anything as far as I know. For the purpose of this side Atari Inc died in 1985.
-> Atarisoft is a Label of Atari Inc up to 1984 to release Atari catalogue for different systems like Intellivision, C64, PC and so on. The label died with Jack Tramiel takeover of the video game division, which did not release games for other systems up until IBM PC release of Tempest 2000.
-> Atari Interactive is complicated. It is the current company promoting Atari. It sees itself as descendant of Atari Inc. For that a understanding of history in Atari Corp is required. Atari Corp was sold to/merged with a disk drive manufacturer JTS. Thus Atari Corp as a company ceased to exist. After bankruptcy of JTS all remains including the right of the name Atari was bought by Hasbro. Hasbro sold the video game division Hasbro Interactive (including rights to Atari) later to Infogrames. Infogrames renamed itself to Atari SA and created/renamed its USA division to Atari Interactive. After the bankruptcy of Atari/Infogrames - Atari Interactive was one of the few bits of the company that survived. After sold out most of the more modern franchise games the company still exists. In short no there are a different companies just with the rights on the logo and name of Atari.
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duplicate entry:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/12766
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/61174
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Singstar R&B - PS2
Ive created a new listing for R&B UK release because the existing R&B listing is another European country, Poland maybe?
(Judging by the case rear art photo)
My new listing
https://vgcollect.com/item/264388
Old listing
https://vgcollect.com/item/128732
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Singstar R&B - PS2
Ive created a new listing for R&B UK release because the existing R&B listing is another European country, Poland maybe?
(Judging by the case rear art photo)
Old listing
https://vgcollect.com/item/128732
128732 is the Eastern European release, specifically CZ, HU, PL, and SK. I've updated its name alongside its images since they were sideways.
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Atari full name is "Atari Inc."
-> Ataris Videogame division (including Home Computers) was sold to to "Jack Tramiel" (in 1984 - yes the previous owner of Commodore) which was named Atari Corporation or Atari Corp.
-> Ataris Arcade division was sold to Namco (1985) which was named Atari Games. End of 1990s Warner bought them back was integrated into Midway. For some time they used the Name "Atari Games" but as a company was integrated into Midway. Midway as a company also ceased to exists and is part of Warner Bros Games by now.
--> Atari Games video game subsidiary was Tengen
-> Technically there was a Telecommunications division which was sold to an electronic company. But for the focus of this page irrelevant.
-> Atari Inc was renamed after all that to Atari Holding but never produced anything, was afaik only to hold rights and maybe some estates. It was integrated into parent company Warner in Mid 90s without producing anything as far as I know. For the purpose of this side Atari Inc died in 1985.
-> Atarisoft is a Label of Atari Inc up to 1984 to release Atari catalogue for different systems like Intellivision, C64, PC and so on. The label died with Jack Tramiel takeover of the video game division, which did not release games for other systems up until IBM PC release of Tempest 2000.
-> Atari Interactive is complicated. It is the current company promoting Atari. It sees itself as descendant of Atari Inc. For that a understanding of history in Atari Corp is required. Atari Corp was sold to/merged with a disk drive manufacturer JTS. Thus Atari Corp as a company ceased to exist. After bankruptcy of JTS all remains including the right of the name Atari was bought by Hasbro. Hasbro sold the video game division Hasbro Interactive (including rights to Atari) later to Infogrames. Infogrames renamed itself to Atari SA and created/renamed its USA division to Atari Interactive. After the bankruptcy of Atari/Infogrames - Atari Interactive was one of the few bits of the company that survived. After sold out most of the more modern franchise games the company still exists. In short no there are a different companies just with the rights on the logo and name of Atari.
The issue seems to be that there are multiple Atari companies that are legally distinct over the course of history.
1. Syzygy -> Atari Inc -> Atari Games -> Atari Holdings
2. Atari Corporation -> JTS -> Hasbro Interactive -> Infogrames Interactive -> Atari Interactive
3. GT Interactive -> Infogrames -> Atari Inc
Now, we don't add the legal type to companies, be it things like Inc, LLC, etc.
Atari Inc has been merged with Atari.
Even if we did decide to start using the legal types, I can't think of a good way to differentiate between the two different Atari Inc.
Then there is the situation where the existing entries in the database that should have Atari Corporation may have just Atari instead, and the large amount of entries that are probably going to have Atari set instead of Atari Interactive or Atari Games.
So what I am recommending next is that we merge down Atari Corporation into Atari as well, and add Atari Holdings (if you think there is a reason to add it) and keep Atari Interactive as is.
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so vgcollect don't track different companies because they are hard to distinct. Got it.
Just from somebody with a bit of experience doing this. Atari is like one of the more known game companies out there with a difficult to track history. But there a lot of others smaller dev studios with wild renaming, merging and reusing history - I can't pick specific names now, my memory is fading it was a long time ago. But one of the newer instances is Microprose. Funny enough also part of Hasbro-Infogrames train.
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If we can find an easy way to distinct the companies then we can certainly do it. It isn't like Mobygames where they have a wiki-like design and they actually have pages for all these different versions of Atari (and everything else) that makes it easier to use as reference. And while anyone could just use Mobygames to reference it, we can't expect everyone to do that and I can tell you that 99.9% of our users don't know there even is a difference or don't care. And frankly we should want to be at or get to a point where we don't need to rely on an outside website to manage our information. And then the other issue is that other reference websites have conflicting information. So 1 Atari to rule them all is way easier as far as attributes on a game database goes.
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Hi,
I put this in the wrong platform so please delete.
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/264573
Thanks
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Not sure what happened, but for some reason, the following entry was duplicated without artwork:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/264591
Please delete.
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Not sure what happened, but for some reason, the following entry was duplicated without artwork:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/264591
In total just now, I believe there were six empty entries submitted recently that I've just removed. In the future, these entries should all be reported here so they're not overlooked by staff.
And, if you are routinely having problems with submitting new entries, ensure that file sizes aren't large as it's the main cause for this error, explained here (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12681.0.html). I generally submit images no larger than 700px.
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I put this in the wrong platform so please delete.
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/264573
In the future, don't submit a second entry when making a mistake in the submission process. Instead, submit an edit so that the correction may be approved.
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You just rejected a back cover artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/77308 (PS1 EU: Monopoly [UK]) saying its the wrong one and should be on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679.
The problem is that the artwork i submitted has the correct barcode thats listed on the UK edition and the one you have added it to has a different barcode in the listing.
Im guessing its because there is a USK (German) age rating on it. Well, the barcode 5023117435065 has the USK rating on the artwork.
Maybe the [UK] is marked on the wrong listing?
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You just rejected a back cover artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/77308 (PS1 EU: Monopoly [UK]) saying its the wrong one and should be on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679.
English 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226092824146) (note "Developed by Blue Planet Software, Inc." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204741399407) (note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435058 (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/162314180649)(note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd. back cover text)
It is common for different items to share the same barcode information. Based on 77308's other entry data, your submitted back art is incorrect.
Both the first and second items linked above are found in the UK, so the descriptor may need updating to something like (Blue Planet Software) and (Gremlin Interactive).
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You just rejected a back cover artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/77308 (PS1 EU: Monopoly [UK]) saying its the wrong one and should be on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679.
English 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226092824146) (note "Developed by Blue Planet Software, Inc." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204741399407) (note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435058 (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/162314180649)(note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd. back cover text)
It is common for different items to share the same barcode information. Based on 77308's other entry data, your submitted back art is incorrect.
Both the first and second items linked above are found in the UK, so the descriptor may need updating to something like (Blue Planet Software) and (Gremlin Interactive).
So you now have a back artwork showing barcode 5023117435065 on the artwork on a listing that has barcode 5023117435058.
That doesnt seem right :/
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You just rejected a back cover artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/77308 (PS1 EU: Monopoly [UK]) saying its the wrong one and should be on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679.
English 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226092824146) (note "Developed by Blue Planet Software, Inc." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204741399407) (note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435058 (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/162314180649)(note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd. back cover text)
It is common for different items to share the same barcode information. Based on 77308's other entry data, your submitted back art is incorrect.
Both the first and second items linked above are found in the UK, so the descriptor may need updating to something like (Blue Planet Software) and (Gremlin Interactive).
So you now have a back artwork showing barcode 5023117435065 on the artwork on a listing that has barcode 5023117435058.
Are you referring to 258679 (https://vgcollect.com/item/258679)? Because of the image size, I can't confidently say whether or not the Barcode information matches the barcode shown on the Back Art image. If you have reason to believe it doesn't, then it may be updated. Bear in mind that the entry has not had any subsequent edits supplied, meaning all information to it is original to its time of submission by another member. With that said, the front image may very well be incorrect too, but, again, the small image size prevents us from knowing.
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The barcode on the back art on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679
ends in 65
You can open this link directly in your browser
https://vgcollect.com/images/back-box-art/258679.jpg
Use Ctrl+Scroll wheel to move to say, 300% and you should be able to tell the last two digits.
Alternatively what can be done is to take 2 images from Ebay (or whatever) and resize/shape/crop them and shrink them down to 200px width and compare them to the image on the site. One will be close or will match and one won't. That is the only real way to tell which barcode is on a small image that is on the site, but sometimes JPEG compression makes it difficult.
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The barcode on the back art on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679
ends in 65
Back art for 258679 (https://vgcollect.com/item/258679) has been removed.
You can open this link directly in your browser
https://vgcollect.com/images/back-box-art/258679.jpg
Use Ctrl+Scroll wheel to move to say, 300% and you should be able to tell the last two digits.
Alternatively what can be done is to take 2 images from Ebay (or whatever) and resize/shape/crop them and shrink them down to 200px width and compare them to the image on the site. One will be close or will match and one won't. That is the only real way to tell which barcode is on a small image that is on the site, but sometimes JPEG compression makes it difficult.
Unfortunately, this doesn't help with confirming whether the front art is correct or not.
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Mario Strikers Charged Football
I've rechecked my copy, and it seems like this item page has some contradictions to it.
My copy has item number RVL-R4QP-UKV and barcode 045496900212 (images: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404287853493?epid=66602752)
The item page has item number RVL-R4QP-EUR and barcode 045496900212
So same barcode, but different item number. Also, the back cover looks to be taken from a french copy.
https://vgcollect.com/item/54553
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My copy has item number RVL-R4QP-UKV and barcode 045496900212 (images: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404287853493?epid=66602752)
The item page has item number RVL-R4QP-EUR and barcode 045496900212
So same barcode, but different item number. Also, the back cover looks to be taken from a french copy.
https://vgcollect.com/item/54553
RVL-R4QP-EUR is the disc number (https://cdn.mobygames.com/covers/6366330-mario-strikers-charged-wii-media.jpg). It's common to see the disc number be submitted to the Item Number field when higher priority numbers should be there instead (especially from entries this old.) RVL-R4QP-UKV may be submitted to the Item Number field in its place but will only be approved if the disc number is also transferred to the Description field. There isn't any reason for us to overwrite correct data simply because it's out of place.
Back cover art for 54553 has been removed.
A new entry for the FR regional release (https://vgcollect.com/item/264662) has been submitted.
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sorry blank one
https://vgcollect.com/item/264879
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whoops, used a template from another entry and forgot to correct the release date in the description. Please delete this earlier entry with incorrect launch event date.
https://vgcollect.com/item/265023
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whoops, used a template from another entry and forgot to correct the release date in the description. Please delete this earlier entry with incorrect launch event date.
https://vgcollect.com/item/265023
First, when creating a new entry and an error is made, do not create a duplicate entry to amend it. Instead, submit an edit submission. It is bad practice to do otherwise.
Regarding your edit submissions, the Description field data you've submitted for numerous entries is far too lengthy with unneeded information for our site's purposes.. At the same time, information such as mentioning the release date is repeated, as there are dedicated Release Date fields where that information should instead be submitted to. Here is a style guide's Description post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178499.html#msg178499) which explains all what sort of information is and isn't relevant.
Here is one of the proposed Description field edits you submitted:
EB Games Canada Exclusive NHL 12 Launch Party cover sleeve featuring Alex Burrows surrounded by other members of the Vancouver Canucks.
The cover was distributed on September 09, 2011 between 7pm and midnight. The athlete arrived for signing between 9pm and 11pm.
The first 250 people in line had the chance to meet Alex Burrows.
The location was at Best Buy, 2220 Cambie St, Vancouver, BC V5Z 2T7
Easily, the above text can be condensed for our site's purposes to this:
cover athlete: Alex Burrows
copies may or may not be signed by Alex Burrows
originally available at a launch party at Vancouver, Canada Best Buy location
That sort of brevity should be used for the entries needing updates.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/175698
The image on the back cover is of a Standard release, not a platinum.
A release that is English, Dutch(?) and Greek does seem to exist but with a different front cover.
https://www.player2gamestore.nl/a-58500834/playstation-1-games/ps1-need-for-speed-road-challenge-platinum/#description
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Concerning rejected description for Neo Cab
https://vgcollect.com/item/203349
1Print refers to this particular cover as a "Limited Edition".
https://www.gamespress.com/tr/Neo-Cab-Limited-Edition-Out-Now-For-Nintendo-Switch
information gathered from 1Print by GamesPress: "The Neo Cab Limited Edition is now available for USD34.99 via the 1Print Games website. Limited to 3000 units, the Neo Cab Limited Edition includes a copy of the Nintendo Switch game, inner cover artwork, Feelgrid Acrylic Keychain, Neo Cab Driver's Manual, Neo Cab Numbered Authenticity Card, and Neo Cab Logo Sticker."
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275747356643
This cover is packaged with several items. Check out others on eBay.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/175698
The image on the back cover is of a Standard release, not a platinum.
A release that is English, Dutch(?) and Greek does seem to exist but with a different front cover.
https://www.player2gamestore.nl/a-58500834/playstation-1-games/ps1-need-for-speed-road-challenge-platinum/#description
Front and back images have been updated. Both previous images and the Barcode field information were original to the entry, so the latter becomes prioritized in this instance.
The incorrect front cover image relates to the UK release (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204484586472). I didn't bother trying to identify the back cover image, since it wasn't even for a Platinum item.
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Concerning rejected description for Neo Cab
https://vgcollect.com/item/203349
1Print refers to this particular cover as a "Limited Edition".
https://www.gamespress.com/tr/Neo-Cab-Limited-Edition-Out-Now-For-Nintendo-Switch
information gathered from 1Print by GamesPress: "The Neo Cab Limited Edition is now available for USD34.99 via the 1Print Games website. Limited to 3000 units, the Neo Cab Limited Edition includes a copy of the Nintendo Switch game, inner cover artwork, Feelgrid Acrylic Keychain, Neo Cab Driver's Manual, Neo Cab Numbered Authenticity Card, and Neo Cab Logo Sticker."
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275747356643
This cover is packaged with several items. Check out others on eBay.
What marketing terms an online retailer use mean nothing to how an entry should be named, unless that same term is actually present on the item itself. This is an issue with nearly every Limited Run Games "special edition," but it's also common with other limited print companies. Since the Limited Edition term isn't actually present on 203349 (from what I've been able to tell), then the term can only be submitted to the Alt-Name field. However, there is no reason to repeat the entire game name, so only submit Limited Edition and not Neo Cab - Limited Edition. The Description field can also be updated to mention something like "sold online as Limited Edition."
Since we have no means to verify any reported production numbers, it's best to not submit that information at all. For instance, the product page for the standalone Neo Cab (https://1printgames.com/product/neo-cab-nintendo-switch/) doesn't mention anything about how many copies were manufactured. But, let us assume the information being reported by some third-party site is correct, that there are 3,000 copies. If that is true, we must also recognize that there are numerous bundles including Neo Cab (https://1printgames.com/product-tag/neo-cab/) also being sold. Are those copies a part of the reported 3,000? Or are there 3,000 standalone copies in addition to more that are included as part of these bundles? We don't know that answer, so it shouldn't be submitted as fact.
The other information about the item's contents are fine to submit (i.e. keychain, manual, and so forth.)