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VGCollect Site Stuff => Video Game Database Discussion => Topic started by: tripredacus on January 21, 2024, 11:02:43 am
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Link to Listing Errors 2018 Thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8857.0.html
Link to Listing Errors 2019 Thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9928.0.html
Link to 2020-21 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10555.0.html
Link to 2022 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11723.0.html
Link to 2023 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.0.html
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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204463.html#msg204463
No. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204464.html#msg204464
All Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into.
This is conflicting instruction, given the entry I originally linked (https://vgcollect.com/item/233123) is to house a Switch cartridge. Nevertheless, I've updated every Switch SteelBook entry which I've observed having removable barcode information. When applicable, I've differentiated if the label is a Nintendo Switch label or a generic one. Someone else with better accessibility can update the image fields. As long as the Description field makes note of the label, that is sufficient enough for now.
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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204463.html#msg204463
No. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204464.html#msg204464
All Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into.
This is conflicting instruction, given the entry I originally linked (https://vgcollect.com/item/233123) is to house a Switch cartridge. Nevertheless, I've updated every Switch SteelBook entry which I've observed having removable barcode information. When applicable, I've differentiated if the label is a Nintendo Switch label or a generic one. Someone else with better accessibility can update the image fields. As long as the Description field makes note of the label, that is sufficient enough for now.
I have submitted a back cover with the barcode to the one you originally linked.
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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204463.html#msg204463
No. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204464.html#msg204464
All Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into.
There was a link to a steelbook with a PS4 logo on it.
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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204463.html#msg204463
No. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204464.html#msg204464
All Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into.
There was a link to a steelbook with a PS4 logo on it.
The Gran Turismo Sport Steelbook entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/140114) I originally linked to puddingm as a guiding example via Admin Comments, mentioned in their forum post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204440.html#msg204440)? Yes, it does have a PS4 logo, and it's been placed correctly in PlayStation 4 Accessory for well over a year. Because of the case's printed logo, there is no required need for a back art submission. Regardless, a back cover submission alone wouldn't be the deciding factor as to whether the entry belongs in PlayStation 4 Accessory or Steelbooks, as the barcode label affixed to sealed copies is a generic one (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256024862805).
Had the example not had the front system logo, the only way it would be permitted in PlayStation 4 Accessory would be for an identifying label of sorts, as has been agreed upon, since it is a container designed to store discs (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266010931303). That said, not every SteelBook is sealed, has labels, or has identifying information printed on it. For containers like these that are also designed to hold discs which can't be identified to one specific system, they are then placed in the Steelbooks sub-cat, as you advised. But, to clarify for anyone else following along, a SteelBook designed to store cartridges known to be for Switch games may be placed in Nintendo Switch Accessory, whether or not outer identifying information is present.
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Going to wait until I'm certain on correct naming convention to add Formula 1 Variants to limit potential edits.
Also found this item but not certain on what would be the correct naming convention. https://www.ebay.fr/itm/363861535181
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Also found this item but not certain on what would be the correct naming convention. https://www.ebay.fr/itm/363861535181
To me, it seems as if the item already has a name: F1 2001 + NBA 2002 + Manette Analogique or Formula 1 2001 + NBA 2002 + Manette Analogique, depending on what sort of clarification is later given in response to this post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9352.msg204580.html#msg204580).
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F1 2001 in this instance. The naming rule is only for when their logo is used.
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Why does UFO Grendizer for PS5 keep getting deleted and why does this site delete the dev and publisher everytime I enter it?
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Why does UFO Grendizer for PS5 keep getting deleted and why does this site delete the dev and publisher everytime I enter it?
Do you mean the UFO Robot Grendizer: The Feast of the Wolves entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/260891) which is a part of your collection? As you can see, the entry has not been deleted.
While information can be typed into both the Developer and Publisher fields, an existing selectable item must be chosen. Items should appear to select, which must be clicked on. Only then will that information will appear. If there are developers or publishers not yet added, request them in this dedicated topic (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,5820.0.html).
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Item #257158 https://vgcollect.com/item/257158 (https://vgcollect.com/item/257158)
I made an edit to add the cover art of this entry but it seems the admin is confused of which is the correct artwork for this entry. They denied the edit and sent me an eBay link in the Admin comment asking me why is it different to the one I used. This is a game sold by Limited Run Games and it has a reversable cover. The cover I tried to add in my edit is the one show on their website and the one the Admin linked to me is the reversable cover as shown in the LRG page.
Here is the link to the LRG page: https://limitedrungames.com/collections/heart-of-the-woods/products/heart-of-the-woods-switch (https://limitedrungames.com/collections/heart-of-the-woods/products/heart-of-the-woods-switch)
Here is the link to the eBay listing the Admin sent to me in the notification comment of my edit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/395177877156 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/395177877156)
What is interesting is that Limited Run Games will print both sides and randomly ship one of the covers to their customers with them having the option to reverse it if they want to, which is something they commonly do for every release with reversable covers. The one I got is the one shown on the eBay link but i reversed it because I liked the one shown on LRG website better. So does this mean that the reverse cover should also get an entry in the database too? I noticed some entries got their reverse covers added as their own entries.
(ex. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World / Celeste)
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Item #257158 https://vgcollect.com/item/257158 (https://vgcollect.com/item/257158)
I made an edit to add the cover art of this entry but it seems the admin is confused of which is the correct artwork for this entry. They denied the edit and sent me an eBay link in the Admin comment asking me why is it different to the one I used. This is a game sold by Limited Run Games and it has a reversable cover. The cover I tried to add in my edit is the one show on their website and the one the Admin linked to me is the reversable cover as shown in the LRG page.
Here is the link to the LRG page: https://limitedrungames.com/collections/heart-of-the-woods/products/heart-of-the-woods-switch (https://limitedrungames.com/collections/heart-of-the-woods/products/heart-of-the-woods-switch)
Here is the link to the eBay listing the Admin sent to me in the notification comment of my edit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/395177877156 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/395177877156)
What is interesting is that Limited Run Games will print both sides and randomly ship one of the covers to their customers with them having the option to reverse it if they want to, which is something they commonly do for every release with reversable covers. The one I got is the one shown on the eBay link but i reversed it because I liked the one shown on LRG website better. So does this mean that the reverse cover should also get an entry in the database too? I noticed some entries got their reverse covers added as their own entries.
(ex. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World / Celeste)
Regarding items with reversible cover art, a second entry should only be submitted if it has been observed to exist while sealed. Any advertising imagery shown online which predates an item's release means very little, as we need to supply information based on the actual physical item. Since this item is newly-released, and we can only confirm artwork based on the limited amount of available items on eBay which all feature different artwork, I'm inclined to believe that all copies feature the art design featured on the existing eBay listings when sealed. At the very least, those several copies alongside your copy do. So, entry art should reflect that, since that is the available information we know. If it's later learned that there's a variant copy with the reversible art outward-facing when sealed, then it may be submitted at that time, but not now.
The Scott Pilgrim and Celeste items you're referencing do have variant entries relating to cover art, but that's because it's been confirmed copies exist sealed showing both sets of art.
So, in short, variant entries should not be submitted for every item which features reversible art, although that detail can be noted in the Description field. Variant entries for these kinds of items may only be submitted when observed sealed.
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This doesn't exist
https://vgcollect.com/item/76599
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This doesn't exist
https://vgcollect.com/item/76599
Merged with https://vgcollect.com/item/55150
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https://vgcollect.com/item/89726
There is no such thing as BE tag with pal snes
for this example it should be
[FR][NL] as usual
(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
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https://vgcollect.com/item/89726
There is no such thing as BE tag with pal snes
for this example it should be
[FR][NL] as usual
(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Posting this private response (despite my repeated requests for a public discussion) here since sworddude now believes the item was also sold in Belgium.
If where talking sales, it's definitely sold in belgium aswell. but it for sure was the case in the netherlands aswell. it's pretty much the main version. I don't see how it's even a question that the NL tag should be included with a FAH release game. I'm literally from said region.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/89726
There is no such thing as BE tag with pal snes
for this example it should be
[FR][NL] as usual
(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Posting this private response (despite my repeated requests for a public discussion) here since sworddude now believes the item was also sold in Belgium.
If where talking sales, it's definitely sold in belgium aswell. but it for sure was the case in the netherlands aswell. it's pretty much the main version. I don't see how it's even a question that the NL tag should be included with a FAH release game. I'm literally from said region.
It is yes, but I don't think sales region is a great method
Cause that would mean we'd need most european country tags on oldschool snes/ gameboy releases for UKV and NOE, cause those where sold brand new in a majority of europe aswell. Even FAH for many games was sold in quite some other countries of europe including the UK.
I do not believe this is the way to go. BE is not a good tag to use for this
Besides if BE is allowed, are we going to open the can of worms that is swiss tag. which is swiss german, italian and french.
sales region is a flawed system.
BE tag is basicly just NL/FR. it shouldn't deserve a seperate spot. it's just a region not a language. besides again FAH version is even sold in the UK back in the day for quite some games like R-type III
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I heavily second this. A clear majority of (but not all!) [FR][NL] games in the database should be [BE][FR][LU][NL] to truly represent their original market. And that only covers the market for french+dutch games… IMHO striving for country completion in the title for the european market is a wild goose chase, and doomed to be misleading *at best*. In this case most if not all european games with french & dutch on the box were released in Belgium, in addition of France, Netherlands, or both.
Listing languages on the box when a game has several language variations in a given region would be much less disputable.
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I heavily second this. A clear majority of (but not all!) [FR][NL] games in the database should be [BE][FR][LU][NL] to truly represent their original market. And that only covers the market for french+dutch games… IMHO striving for country completion in the title for the european market is a wild goose chase, and doomed to be misleading *at best*. In this case most if not all european games with french & dutch on the box were released in Belgium, in addition of France, Netherlands, or both.
Listing languages on the box when a game has several language variations in a given region would be much less disputable.
Attaching TLD information to entry names based on language text leads to more problems than based on country of origin.
- Consider items without any packaging text.
- Consider items with only one regional release, regardless of the amount of languages present.
- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
- Consider items which a language is present that doesn't directly relate to its country of origin. For instance, are you suggesting Canadian entries be tagged as [FR]? Brazilian items be tagged as [PT]? There are plenty of items originating from Asia with only English as the language text, even.
- Consider items which are regional variants only based on a label, or the few which are unique based on an included component like a different instruction booklet. Hundreds of these sorts of items already exist within the database, and their packaging languages are the exact same as others.
- Consider regional variant items which rely on descriptors solely instead of TLDs, such as 245945 (https://vgcollect.com/item/245945). TLDs should only be attached when multiple entries within the same exact name in the same category exist, so a TLD isn't used in this situation. With your proposal, there would be.
We won't be making an exception rule or altering the rules altogether due to one specific region of categories. You suggest how some entry name TLDs may be "misleading," but I don't see how that can be if sufficient information is supplied. Numerous other form fields coincide with the Name field which can mitigate this issue. If there is confusion relating to what an entry is intended to represent based on an entry's name alone, then that almost certainly means other fields were either filled out incorrectly or omitted altogether. In no ideal situation should the Name field be the only explanation as to what an item is, with image, Barcode, and Item Number fields being most helpful. At the same time, if there is incorrect data, it is usually straightforward to correct. Likewise, if existing information is correct but incomplete, that is simple to amend.
Also recognize that every item is released differently, meaning every single item in the database should be analyzed individually. So, for example, if there are some Dutch items where it can be confirmed that they were also released in France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, or wherever, then submit that information. Some information is difficult for staff to confirm on our own, so it's never wrong to post to the forums in this very topic to preemptively explain certain edits with verifying links, as the topic post outlines, before the submission is responded to by staff.
While the current TLD and descriptor systems aren't perfect, they're the best we're to work with given the site's current development and limitations. Ideally, there would be one master entry for each game, so to speak, with all variants including regional ones accessible from the same page. However, that isn't how the site is currently built. So, we compromise until something better is made.
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I heavily second this. A clear majority of (but not all!) [FR][NL] games in the database should be [BE][FR][LU][NL] to truly represent their original market. And that only covers the market for french+dutch games… IMHO striving for country completion in the title for the european market is a wild goose chase, and doomed to be misleading *at best*. In this case most if not all european games with french & dutch on the box were released in Belgium, in addition of France, Netherlands, or both.
Listing languages on the box when a game has several language variations in a given region would be much less disputable.
Attaching TLD information to entry names based on language text leads to more problems than based on country of origin.
- Consider items without any packaging text.
- Consider items with only one regional release, regardless of the amount of languages present.
- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
- Consider items which a language is present that doesn't directly relate to its country of origin. For instance, are you suggesting Canadian entries be tagged as [FR]? Brazilian items be tagged as [PT]? There are plenty of items originating from Asia with only English as the language text, even.
- Consider items which are regional variants only based on a label, or the few which are unique based on an included component like a different instruction booklet. Hundreds of these sorts of items already exist within the database, and their packaging languages are the exact same as others.
- Consider regional variant items which rely on descriptors solely instead of TLDs, such as 245945 (https://vgcollect.com/item/245945). TLDs should only be attached when multiple entries within the same exact name in the same category exist, so a TLD isn't used in this situation. With your proposal, there would be.
We won't be making an exception rule or altering the rules altogether due to one specific region of categories. You suggest how some entry name TLDs may be "misleading," but I don't see how that can be if sufficient information is supplied. Numerous other form fields coincide with the Name field which can mitigate this issue. If there is confusion relating to what an entry is intended to represent based on an entry's name alone, then that almost certainly means other fields were either filled out incorrectly or omitted altogether. In no ideal situation should the Name field be the only explanation as to what an item is, with image, Barcode, and Item Number fields being most helpful. At the same time, if there is incorrect data, it is usually straightforward to correct. Likewise, if existing information is correct but incomplete, that is simple to amend.
Also recognize that every item is released differently, meaning every single item in the database should be analyzed individually. So, for example, if there are some Dutch items where it can be confirmed that they were also released in France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, or wherever, then submit that information. Some information is difficult for staff to confirm on our own, so it's never wrong to post to the forums in this very topic to preemptively explain certain edits with verifying links, as the topic post outlines, before the submission is responded to by staff.
While the current TLD and descriptor systems aren't perfect, they're the best we're to work with given the site's current development and limitations. Ideally, there would be one master entry for each game, so to speak, with all variants including regional ones accessible from the same page. However, that isn't how the site is currently built. So, we compromise until something better is made.
Adding sales region in the european section a can of worms you do not want to enter.
your just making up ridiculous rules that hardly matter to most collectors and make stuff super complicated withouth actually providing details that matter. Where is the actual benefit of this system? it is imo non existent. Sometimes I really think your the only 1 that likes these changes. Could be wrong on that but it feels like it at times.
Let's just keep it clean and simple.
There are not many problems if where sticking to languages for europe. if you really have a specific item you can make exceptions, but this should not be an issue for 99% of games.
say you got a sports game that was just specificly for said country with exclusive clubs. you can go ahead and go crazy with your over the top rules and say it's a BE or whatever game, It should only matter for mostly some sports of singstar games.
Besides collectors for games are not looking for a regional version, they are just looking for a copy in their language. Nobody is saying that they are looking for a Belgium game ::)
Why should we complicate the ez codes that are already given to use.
Such as UKV FAH, NOE, SCN HOL. we used to just list these codes behind said games and that was literally perfect since collectors used those codes all the time. Languages are fine enough aswell but I never got why that was altered. Sales region is just not the way to go.
I've already seen the BE code spread throughout many items in the database which just doesn't make any sense. Like a BE coded shadow of the collosus ps2, like wtf is that https://vgcollect.com/item/33616
It doesn't even exist. game that was released in belgium had 4 languages, and how is that BE exclusive? Not to mention french and english only copies where in that same region aswell
I hope some folks can get Dhaabi back to the land of the living cause his idea's are getting out of hand :o
If Dhaabi does succeed with this horrible idea, I'm not going to help him with this wild goose chase that will just dilute the site with useless information. cause it's just another downgrade to this otherwise cool site.
Let's just keep it at either languages or the OG codes that are listed on said games UKV FAH, HOL, NOE, SCN etc like what it used to be before Presumably Dhaabi altered it
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Adding sales region in the european section a can of worms you do not want to enter.
Let's just keep it at either languages or the OG codes that are listed on said games UKV FAH, HOL, NOE, SCN etc like what it used to be before Presumably Dhaabi altered it
+1 to the chuckle or two you got out of me.
This isn't the place to engage in this sort of conversation (make a separate topic for it) nor do I feel like responding in-depth since you ignored everything I mentioned above. But, I will say this: these rules were set long before I ever started contributing to the site, let alone became a staff member. Like other rules you have taken issue with, I am merely enforcing them. In that regard, this "can of worms" has been opened for years, although you seem to have only just noticed it. Again, if you have an issue with certain rules or have ideas as to provide better alternatives, I would suggest creating a topic in the Site Feedback section (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/board,2.0.html) where a more engaging and on-topic discussion can be made.
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Adding sales region in the european section a can of worms you do not want to enter.
Let's just keep it at either languages or the OG codes that are listed on said games UKV FAH, HOL, NOE, SCN etc like what it used to be before Presumably Dhaabi altered it
+1 to the chuckle or two you got out of me.
This isn't the place to engage in this sort of conversation (make a separate topic for it) nor do I feel like responding in-depth since you ignored everything I mentioned above. But, I will say this: these rules were set long before I ever started contributing to the site, let alone became a staff member. Like other rules you have taken issue with, I am merely enforcing them. In that regard, this "can of worms" has been opened for years, although you seem to have only just noticed it. Again, if you have an issue with certain rules or have ideas as to provide better alternatives, I would suggest creating a topic in the Site Feedback section (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/board,2.0.html) where a more engaging and on-topic discussion can be made.
BE code was not a thing 1 or max 2 months ago. I've checked since people tend to add different countries to already existing listings.
if it did exist earlier it wasn't as wide spread, BE code in even the snes catalogue is just outrageous. defo not more than 1 month ago I'd say
My feedback is to just use the codes. UKV, FAH, HOL etc
that's the best way, no need for language tags on games either than. Stuff like canadian releases with french shouldn't be an issue, they are already in a seperate region anyway. people know what to expect let's not state the obvious. no need for any tags if said games are in the canadian section anyway. Same stuff for Australian versions etc
I'll say this though,
Listings such as these are just filler. it's just wrong. I would suggest removing at the very least the BE tag. and this was previously just a generic english version of it considering the amount of people that have it in the collection. It's a vgcollect classic, altering previously english releases to versions 90+% of the people don't have.
https://vgcollect.com/item/33616
this is your version with the matching barcode ending with an 8 your looking at.
How is this just BE region?
Just saying, this european version is pretty much a thing in most of europe I'd say, are we really going to tag 5+ countries here
(https://i.imgur.com/xjWtwfg.jpeg)
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BE code was not a thing 1 or max 2 months ago. I've checked since people tend to add different countries to already existing listings.
if it did exist earlier it wasn't as wide spread, BE code in even the snes catatelogue is just outrageous. defo not more than 1 month ago I'd say
How is this just BE region?
Refer to the Release Country TLD Master List topic post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,7009.msg108576.html#msg108576) which was last updated in 2022 and the TLDs and Import Labels post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg179397.html#msg179397) of the Advanced Style Guide which was last updated in 2021.
Also, refer to my aforementioned post which you ignored. 33616 was also likely sold (https://feniks-games-consoles.nl/products/shadow-of-the-colossus-playstation-2) in NL. Whenever I updated its entry name, I probably could only confirm BE which would explain why there's only one TLD. From my observations, when there are multiple regional variants for an item in PlayStation categories, it means there is not usually a general European release. Across other regional markets, I've found no evidence of 33616 being sold, although it could be later confirmed.
At the same time, if there is incorrect data, it is usually straightforward to correct. Likewise, if existing information is correct but incomplete, that is simple to amend.
My feedback is to just use the codes. UKV, FAH, HOL etc
These three-letter codes are predominantly tied to Nintendo items, mostly in Europe. Some publishers, like Capcom (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11436.msg202210.html#msg202210), feature similar codes, but they are not widespread nor standardized worldwide. Like I've already mentioned, exceptions won't be made for one specific type of category, because rules need to exist for the entire database which catalogs items from across the world. Were we to implement this, how do you suggest we tag items from Singapore (https://vgcollect.com/item/245963)? Or Kenya (https://vgcollect.com/item/220681)? Even in Europe, what about items from Lithuania (https://vgcollect.com/item/239464)? Ukraine (https://vgcollect.com/item/208391)? Greece (https://vgcollect.com/item/190155)? Whatever rule is in place needs to account for all items, not just the small number of ones you're personally concerned about.
I will also briefly mention some modern Asian items placed in CN categories. These three entries are all general Asia releases, yet have conflicting codes: ASI (https://vgcollect.com/item/171746), CHT (https://vgcollect.com/item/244867), JPN (https://vgcollect.com/item/226516).
Stuff like canadian releases with french shouldn't be an issue, they are already in a seperate region anyway. people know what to expect let's not state the obvious. no need for any tags if said games are in the canadian section anyway.
The database has two (https://vgcollect.com/browse/cd32ca) dedicated (https://vgcollect.com/browse/nesca) yet small CA sections. All other CA items are placed in NA categories. Stating the obvious is adding tags for every language present on an item's packaging, but I digress.
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If where going by your method. snes would have a canadian section. there are differences between carts.
Not to mention I'm fairly sure a ton of snes games never had a unique canadian release and are the regular usa release and thus you'd need to add canadian sales region to 30 - 50% prob more of the USA database for older consoles? cause of those games being sold in canada back in the day anyway it's the only version.
if your going to add sales region to pal games, why not add them to usa games aswell for canadian tag if no canadian versions exists which I can almost guarantee you is a hell lot of said library ::)
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The database has two (https://vgcollect.com/browse/cd32ca) dedicated (https://vgcollect.com/browse/nesca) yet small CA sections. All other CA items are placed in NA categories. Stating the obvious is adding tags for every language present on an item's packaging, but I digress.
stating the obvious is just adding nothing to it. If said games are in aus or Canadian category already nothing else needs to be said. it's obvious.
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If said games are in aus or Canadian category already nothing else needs to be said. it's obvious.
Correct. This is why you will never find [EU] and [NA] TLDs as part of entry names in their respective regional categories. Likewise, you won't find the [US] TLD in NA categories, because there are never NA and US releases. However, there are EU and UK releases, which is why there are sometimes items marked as [UK] in EU categories.
Never use a TLD in an item title where the item is in a category that has the same TLD in its name.
Examples:
- don't have ITEM NAME [EU] in CATEGORY [EU]
- don't have ITEM NAME [US] in CATEGORY [NA]
Not to mention I'm fairly sure a ton of snes games never had a unique canadian release and are the regular usa release and thus you'd need to add canadian sales region to 30 - 50% prob more of the USA database for older consoles? cause of those games being sold in canada back in the day anyway it's the only version.
if your going to add sales region to pal games, why not add them to usa games aswell for canadian tag if no canadian versions exists which I can almost guarantee you is a hell lot of said library ::)
With my above comment in mind, the [CA] TLD tag is never assigned unless there is a CA regional variant. In short, all entries in regional categories have an assigned TLD, as each of their respective categories are assigned one. So, for example, a NL item may feature a [NL] TLD in its entry name, but it also has an assumed [EU] TLD. That said, the only reason to assign a [CA] TLD is when there is both a NA or US copy of an item and a CA one. This is because all entries in NA categories without regional variants are assumed to already have a [NA] TLD which supersedes specific regional TLDs.
If where going by your method. snes would have a canadian section. there are differences between carts.
While I understand why the Amiga CD32 [CA] sub-category exists since it was not released in the United States, the NES [CA] sub-category is an anomaly. That it should exist or instead be merged into NES [US] to form NES [NA] is something I can't comment on until I understand the situation better.
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- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
There is no need to rehash this conversation, we already have the format for identifying language. It is the standard ISO-639+ISO-3166 locale combination. We just do not use it on the site anywhere as it does not actually help in regards to making the site easier to use. They would be used if we were to attach language information to an entry, either privately (as a var) or publicly likely would be a hidden value that would load a different resource like an image to represent the value. This particular format would allow separation between locales, such as en-US vs en-GB, or for French there are fr-CA, fr-FR, fr-BE or fr-CH...
Use of TLD is not ideal and is only required based on how the site is designed.
Amiga CD32 [CA] category is an anomaly, and likely is going to get merged with the EU cat once the site reliability issue is resolved.
NES [CA] is from before my time as staff, there is no much of a situation to understand. It doesn't hurt to exist.
Also, current categories or how they appear are also due to the original design of the site which has not changed. Remember that the site was not originally designed for the amount of items we currently cover. A different design to the site could eliminate the way categories are viewed and could also eliminate the usage of TLDs (or even descriptors) in item titles. Until something like that happens, we will continue to use the TLD and descriptors the way we do now.
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I heavily second this. A clear majority of (but not all!) [FR][NL] games in the database should be [BE][FR][LU][NL] to truly represent their original market. And that only covers the market for french+dutch games… IMHO striving for country completion in the title for the european market is a wild goose chase, and doomed to be misleading *at best*. In this case most if not all european games with french & dutch on the box were released in Belgium, in addition of France, Netherlands, or both.
Listing languages on the box when a game has several language variations in a given region would be much less disputable.
Attaching TLD information to entry names based on language text leads to more problems than based on country of origin.
- Consider items without any packaging text.
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- Consider items with only one regional release, regardless of the amount of languages present.
Same as today; only one entry in a region => no need to explicitely state the sale countries. Could be the same with languages.
- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
EN must be the language code for english in some ANSI standard as well as some ISO standard. I would be astonished if not the case.
And again, it would only appear when necessary.
- Consider items which a language is present that doesn't directly relate to its country of origin. For instance, are you suggesting Canadian entries be tagged as [FR]? Brazilian items be tagged as [PT]? There are plenty of items originating from Asia with only English as the language text, even.
I hardly see the problem here: an NA entry with french on the box obviously was not published in France, but most definitely (at least) in Canada.
Same goes for a game with portuguese that targeted the south american market.
- Consider items which are regional variants only based on a label, or the few which are unique based on an included component like a different instruction booklet. Hundreds of these sorts of items already exist within the database, and their packaging languages are the exact same as others.
If we’re talking of stuff like the portuguese IGAC stamp, maybe an “(with IGAC stamp)” mention would be crystal clear?
- Consider regional variant items which rely on descriptors solely instead of TLDs, such as 245945 (https://vgcollect.com/item/245945). TLDs should only be attached when multiple entries within the same exact name in the same category exist, so a TLD isn't used in this situation. With your proposal, there would be.
Nope. My proposal is to replace the rule of “use country codes, when necessary“, with a rule of “use language codes, when necessary”.
IMHO that would change absolutely nothing for the entry you linked here.
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The thing is, we all agree there’s a problem: splitting markets into regions is not enough, as some games got several versions in a same region, with the only changes being a) the region’s countries there were sold in and b) the languages printed on the box.
*I* think the current solution is unsatisfactory because fundamentally flawed by the lack of clear information about countries a game is / were sold in, especially for old games (and perhaps more especially within the EU “single” market).
On the other hand, the thing with languages printed maybe 30 years ago on a box is that everybody that owns this box has a direct, undisputable access to the information about what languages are printed on said box. Using that instead of the country is easy, verifiable, correctable and reproducible. 4 qualities the country code lacks, if you ask me.
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I've had to bring this up before, now I am going to have to do so again...
I just listed a game White Day 2. The game has a subtitle but it also is noted as a Complete Edition. From my understanding and what I read in the sites style guide it should be formatted as:
Tile: Subtitle - Edition
White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies - Complete Edition
Yet, I find my listing had been edited to:
Tile: Subtitle: Edition
White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies: Complete Edition
Other than looking like crap, it also doesn't specify the difference between the subtitle and edition. So can we stop with re-editing listings this way?
Amazon has the game listed in the way I have recomended also:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/White-Day-Flower-Tells-Complete/dp/B0CV7XFDBH/
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I just listed a game White Day 2. The game has a subtitle but it also is noted as a Complete Edition. From my understanding and what I read in the sites style guide it should be formatted as:
Tile: Subtitle - Edition
White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies - Complete Edition
The formatting style originally submitted is incorrect. Hyphen edition formatting ( - x Edition) should be used to denote an item which is a special, limited, or budget release. However, colon edition formatting (:x Edition) should be used to denote when a game has been released as a second, entirely different item under a different name. The latter will often be used relating to most "Complete," "Gold," "Ultimate," and so forth edition types.
For physical releases that have a special, limited or budget release outside of the standard game release, we put the Edition Name after the game name using a hyphen ( - ) symbol.
Edition re-release versus Edition game title
The original release for Fallout: New Vegas has a "regular" release and a Collector's Edition.
Fallout: New Vegas (https://vgcollect.com/item/5385)
Fallout: New Vegas - Collector's Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/17068)
This game was then released a second time with a new title, as well as additional budget releases. In this case, the main release does not use the hyphen, while the budget releases do.
Fallout: New Vegas: Ultimate Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/22346)
Fallout: New Vegas: Ultimate Edition - Greatest Hits (https://vgcollect.com/item/129108)
Fallout: New Vegas: Ultimate Edition - Platinum Hits (https://vgcollect.com/item/141314)
We know that White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies: Complete Edition is a different item because, originally, all three episodes were sold separately. The "Complete Edition" item now packages all three episodes alongside every DLC into one item. From the Steam store page (https://store.steampowered.com/app/2078040/White_Day_2_The_Flower_That_Tells_Lies__Complete_Edition/) (which we should assume will be the same for other platforms, considering this item has yet to be actually released as a physical item):
White Day 2: The Flower That Tells Lies - Complete Edition brings together the interlocking stories of all three episodes along with every released DLC into one definitive package.
Our site's formatting rules supersedes others'.
Our formatting rules override a common title as listed on another website.
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Other than looking like crap, it also doesn't specify the difference between the subtitle and edition. So can we stop with re-editing listings this way?
This change was due to a community poll: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11879.0.html
You are free to request a re-vote by posting here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html
Since the vote winner was by a large margin, a re-vote may not reproduce different results.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/198525 I updated the image on Samurai Warriors 5 because the uploaded image used placeholder art without the ESRB information. the image i used was pulled from gamestop's website.
I'm curious as to why the edit was refused.
I did upload 2 different images but the second one was better and should be used over whats on the database now.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/198525 I updated the image on Samurai Warriors 5 because the uploaded image used placeholder art without the ESRB information. the image i used was pulled from gamestop's website.
I'm curious as to why the edit was refused.
I did upload 2 different images but the second one was better and should be used over whats on the database now.
When multiple image files are submitted (by one or multiple users) to the same field before anyone can respond to the edit submission, the last file submitted overwrites previous ones. So, whatever last image submitted by you is the only one which was visible in the edit queue. Once I responded to the first edit, there was no need to approve the second as a result of the site recognizing the two submissions as the exact same. So, the second edit was rejected as Information Already Exists.
Be sure to clear your browser cache in the event you're viewing older entry image data too.
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Other than looking like crap, it also doesn't specify the difference between the subtitle and edition. So can we stop with re-editing listings this way?
This change was due to a community poll: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11879.0.html
You are free to request a re-vote by posting here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html
Since the vote winner was by a large margin, a re-vote may not reproduce different results.
Maybe it's just early in the morning, but I don't see anywhere in that poll that says we would move to use colons? It's all about dashes and descriptors.
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This change was due to a community poll: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11879.0.html
Maybe it's just early in the morning, but I don't see anywhere in that poll that says we would move to use colons? It's all about dashes and descriptors.
Full explanations along with examples are outlined in the topic post. I imagine that the polling options are written that way to maintain brevity.
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I'm not going to make edits because it'll just get rejected, but I'll inform folks so maybe Dhaabi can fix it. All of the PS4 Accessory listings for the 20th anniversary controllers are incorrect in their description
"packaging text in English, French model #: CUH-ZCT1U embossed touchpad with 2, O, X, square, triangle symbols available as a part of the Sony PlayStation 4 20th Anniversary Edition boxed release or as a standalone retail release"
Console release of the controller has the iconography on the touchpad, all standalone retail releases do not have the iconography on the touchpad. They are different controllers.
https://vgcollect.com/item/109896
https://vgcollect.com/item/95683
https://vgcollect.com/item/229616
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Console release of the controller has the iconography on the touchpad, all standalone retail releases do not have the iconography on the touchpad. They are different controllers.
https://vgcollect.com/item/109896
https://vgcollect.com/item/95683
https://vgcollect.com/item/229616
I've updated 109896 (https://vgcollect.com/item/109896) and 95683 (https://vgcollect.com/item/95683) based on edit history while also submitting a new entry for the US boxed release (https://vgcollect.com/item/262848).
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https://vgcollect.com/item/68195
Correct item number is 4MY00006
I assume 4MY00010 is the Italian Variant.
https://vgcollect.com/item/83992
The front image is stock, will submit replacement
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https://vgcollect.com/item/68195
Correct item number is 4MY00006
I assume 4MY00010 is the Italian Variant.
https://vgcollect.com/item/83992
The front image is stock, will submit replacement
Front image submission approved. For spine information, we should treat a forced line break as a space—not as one single string nor as a hyphenated one. I rejected that Item Number field submission, along with a few others which you'll see on your Notifications page, for that reason. If that information is re-submitted with the correct formatting, they'll be approved.
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This barcode appears to be Australian
Forza Motorsport 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/31692
https://www.ebay.com.au/p/1243662035?iid=364594022888
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This barcode appears to be Australian
Forza Motorsport 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/31692
https://www.ebay.com.au/p/1243662035?iid=364594022888
There seems to be many different versions of this game, even in AU. Changed it to the UK version that matches the front stock art, of course I think this version isn't the 2 discs version so the disc art is removed. Also can't confirm spine so that number had to go also.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/4195
Game appeared to of got cancelled.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/561859-imperator
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I have two questions regarding game titles.
1- https://vgcollect.com/item/70216 (https://vgcollect.com/item/70216)
I'm aware that it is mostly known in the west as Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu.
However, that name is nowhere to be found on the Japanese release.
So, I think it should be listed here as Jackie Chan.
2- https://vgcollect.com/item/110157 (https://vgcollect.com/item/110157)
The box reads "Nemesis" in alphabet and "グラディウス" ("Guradiusu" or "Gradius") in katakana.
I know that we primarily list games by their names in alphabet on the box, but I was wondering if maybe we should rename it to "Gradius". I don't know...
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I have two questions regarding game titles.
1- https://vgcollect.com/item/70216 (https://vgcollect.com/item/70216)
I'm aware that it is mostly known in the west as Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu.
However, that name is nowhere to be found on the Japanese release.
So, I think it should be listed here as Jackie Chan.
2- https://vgcollect.com/item/110157 (https://vgcollect.com/item/110157)
The box reads "Nemesis" in alphabet and "グラディウス" ("Guradiusu" or "Gradius") in katakana.
I know that we primarily list games by their names in alphabet on the box, but I was wondering if maybe we should rename it to "Gradius". I don't know...
For the PCE game, the first place I look is on GameFAQs and it has the titles like you say
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/tg16/588998-jackie-chans-action-kung-fu/data
So it can be changed.
Same is true for the MSX game
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/msx/917743-nemesis/data
Sp you can put in an edit for both.
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ended up with a blank one
https://vgcollect.com/item/263232
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Not sure if this is the proper forum, but here goes. With the creation of a new 3DO [KR] category, the following items should be transferred to the new section:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262973
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115027
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115026
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262977
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115028
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262580
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115029
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262582
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Not sure if this is the proper forum, but here goes. With the creation of a new 3DO [KR] category, the following items should be transferred to the new section:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262973
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115027
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115026
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262977
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115028
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262580
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/115029
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/262582
You can submit the edits to change to the new category.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/263783 https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/fifa-11-ps2-1240419710/
https://vgcollect.com/item/263856 https://www.ebay.at/itm/126125038318
Quick clarification to my edit. (As it is a bit Strange)
Seemingly the FIFA 11 release is unique in the series as it does not follow the set pattern.
It appears that the First item is a cross AT and CH Release while the Second item is just AT. As such I'm having to use the item number as a descriptor.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/263783 https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/fifa-11-ps2-1240419710/
https://vgcollect.com/item/263856 https://www.ebay.at/itm/126125038318
Quick clarification to my edit. (As it is a bit Strange)
Seemingly the FIFA 11 release is unique in the series as it does not follow the set pattern.
It appears that the First item is a cross AT and CH Release while the Second item is just AT. As such I'm having to use the item number as a descriptor.
As these item numbers appear on the back, you need to put in description
Other back item number: n
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https://vgcollect.com/item/58161
Barcode edit to 5030930041984 as barcode doesn't match Images - NL barcode - Uk Images.
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blank one
https://vgcollect.com/item/263962
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Jumbo Funko Pops need to denoted by something in the title, title gets denied due to it. Please explain further why it can't be in the title what edition this pop is? Or should there be two squirtle entries with the exact same naming. because right now the Jumbo version is the one in the database and the small one needs to be added.
https://vgcollect.com/item/168704 - This is the Jumbo edition, what they call their 10 inches https://funko.com/pop-jumbo-glaceon/68378.html, it's not the regular small squirtle pop
The edition should be at the end should it not? Or am I thinking about it wrongly?
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Jumbo Funko Pops need to denoted by something in the title, title gets denied due to it. Please explain further why it can't be in the title what edition this pop is? Or should there be two squirtle entries with the exact same naming. because right now the Jumbo version is the one in the database and the small one needs to be added.
https://vgcollect.com/item/168704 - This is the Jumbo edition, what they call their 10 inches https://funko.com/pop-jumbo-glaceon/68378.html, it's not the regular small squirtle pop
The edition should be at the end should it not? Or am I thinking about it wrongly?
Jumbo Edition should not be added to the Name, as nowhere on the item's packaging is that term used, as seen from this eBay listing (https://www.ebay.com/itm/304808210636). Even from the Funko store page link you provided (for another item, mind you), the term "Jumbo Edition" isn't used, so supplying the term to the Alt-Name field should also be omitted.
There are numerous variants for the Squirtle Funko Pop figures such as this one (https://www.ebay.com/itm/183885478318), but only one entry exists in the database. So, until variant entries are added, entry name descriptors should not be added to the Name field. But, at any point, additional information can be submitted to other fields which will help other members know exactly what 168704 is intended to represent, although the existing front art is fine in conveying that (despite its low effort and poor quality.) If at any point other entries are added, then descriptors such as (504) and (505) can be submitted.
However, I feel compelled to mention that, even though our database currently tracks these sorts of items, there shouldn't be some mass effort to catalog all these variants unless a member were to actually own them, simply because there are other sites far more suitable and dedicated to tracking toy (and specifically Funko) information. Only about half of our site's entry fields are relevant to toys specifically alongside very few members using the site to interact with these entries.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/230949 (https://vgcollect.com/item/230949)
I recently submitted new photos, along with release date and rating info that was denied. The info I submitted is for the same item as this existing item. The PEGI12 rating is a sticker on the outside cellophane. Once the packaging is removed, the case has no rating on the front cover. (As depicted in the current stock photo used.) The release date info was sourced from gamefaqs for the Stricly Limited release, which this item is.
Additionally, the developer is specifically stated on the back cover as QUByte Game Studio, but this game is listed on the Qubyte Interactive website as them having handled the port. https://www.qubyteinteractive.com/site/?page_id=761 (https://www.qubyteinteractive.com/site/?page_id=761)
I assumed they were the same company and wasn't sure exactly how to handle that one, but Qubyte Interactive was the only available option and it seemed correct to me.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/230949 (https://vgcollect.com/item/230949)
Every copy of the item I've found on eBay is sealed, like the one I linked (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/315095023783) to you in the Admin Comments, yet none feature the PEGI 12 rating label. To me, this indicates they're two different items—one with a PEGI 12 rating label and one without. Both should feature a USK 16 rating on the actual cartridgeas evident from the store product page (https://www.strictlylimitedgames.com/products/zero-tolerance-collection-ps4), but I've not confirmed it.
Information should not be taken so blindly from other sources without verifying it yourself. Just like our site, sites like GameFAQs are user-submitted, meaning there is plenty of incorrect information. Here is a Twitter post (https://twitter.com/Juganawt/status/1583451083468607495) dated October 21, 2022 which showcases the item, which is a full five weeks earlier than GameFAQ's November 28 listed date (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/switch/365394-qubyte-classics-zero-tolerance-collection/data). For many online exclusive items, a specific date will never be able to be determined. At best, we can supply Month and Year. In this instance, without further information, Year alone is fine. All things considered, we therefore do not know when the PEGI 12 rating label variant was released, so not Release Date information should be submitted until confirmed.
Some staff confirm developer and publisher information through MobyGames, some others confirm it from the item itself. If there is conflicting data, I will always accept the submission so long as it is listed on one of those two sources. With that said, MobyGames lists the port being developed from Piko Interactive (https://www.mobygames.com/game/193590/qubyte-classics-zero-tolerance-collection-by-piko/releases/playstation-4/), whereas the product itself lists QUByte Game Studio as the developer. Sometimes publisher and developer names are similar but vary as they're different entities. I don't know if that's the case in this circumstance, though.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/11648
is a frankenstein entry:
data and cartridge pictures fits: 1983 Atari INC release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_7357.html
back cover fits: 1988 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18228.html
front cover could be either 1988 release or 1987 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18227.html
could this please be resolved. I could provide better pictures for a '88 release
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https://vgcollect.com/item/11648
is a frankenstein entry:
data and cartridge pictures fits: 1983 Atari INC release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_7357.html
back cover fits: 1988 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18228.html
front cover could be either 1988 release or 1987 Atari CORP release
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-jungle-hunt_18227.html
could this please be resolved. I could provide better pictures for a '88 release
It looks like front image is original and all the rest was added later, so everything was removed except the front image. So make it either of the two entries that you say are related to the front cover.
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Cool Boarders 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/29674
This barcode appears to be Australian, presumably wrong image front being used.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/325452306388?epid=25024723380
Also since I've already posted, no English language Eu version of Fire Pro Wrestling Returns exists so changing existing list to ES
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Cool Boarders 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/29674
This barcode appears to be Australian, presumably wrong image front being used.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/325452306388?epid=25024723380
29674 merged into 228638 (https://vgcollect.com/item/228638). A proper entry for the Australian release has also been created, which is here (https://vgcollect.com/item/264307).
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Your edit to Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy was rejected.
Monday April 15th, 2024 at 10:34 AM
Field: developer
New Value: 5745
Reason: Information Already on File. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
No it isn't. Currently there is Atari in the system which is Warner owned Atari. There are 3x Ataris. in Early 1990s they have nothing to do with each other. Atari Corp. owned by Tramel, Atari Games former Namco owned and Atari Holding which is still owned by Warner.
Btw it would be nice to see which of the Mods discarded this.
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Your edit to Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy was rejected.
Monday April 15th, 2024 at 10:34 AM
Field: developer
New Value: 5745
Reason: Information Already on File. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
No it isn't. Currently there is Atari in the system which is Warner owned Atari. There are 3x Ataris. in Early 1990s they have nothing to do with each other. Atari Corp. owned by Tramel, Atari Games former Namco owned and Atari Holding which is still owned by Warner.
Btw it would be nice to see which of the Mods discarded this.
It was me, to perhaps spur discussion about Devs list. As some cleanup work has been done in the list, but there are still duplicates.
Is Atari not Atari Corporation or the other way around? There are 5 options:
Atari
Atari Corporation
Atari Games
Atari Interactive
Atarisoft
Are all of these valid? Should Atari be removed and add Atari Holding instead?
Or should all of them be just changed to Atari?
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I do believe that this entry for Assassins Creed Black Flag WiiU sould be deleted, there is no stand alone Mexico release of this game
https://vgcollect.com/item/218227
There is a USA release and a 3 language Canada/Mexico release
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I do believe that this entry for Assassins Creed Black Flag WiiU sould be deleted, there is no stand alone Mexico release of this game
https://vgcollect.com/item/218227
There is a USA release and a 3 language Canada/Mexico release
The difference between 218227 and 158288 (https://vgcollect.com/item/158288) is the Mexican import distribution label found on the former. It is not unusual that the only difference for region-specific items to be in the form of a label. From the TLDs and Import Labels post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg179397.html#msg179397) of the Advanced Style Guide:
Import Labels
Some countries will import a game from another region and just put an import or declaration label on the packaging. Sometimes this label is only on the outer shrinkwrap of sealed copies, sometimes it is on the box or case itself. Items like this can be added to the database using the appropriate TLD.
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Your edit to Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy was rejected.
Monday April 15th, 2024 at 10:34 AM
Field: developer
New Value: 5745
Reason: Information Already on File. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
No it isn't. Currently there is Atari in the system which is Warner owned Atari. There are 3x Ataris. in Early 1990s they have nothing to do with each other. Atari Corp. owned by Tramel, Atari Games former Namco owned and Atari Holding which is still owned by Warner.
Btw it would be nice to see which of the Mods discarded this.
It was me, to perhaps spur discussion about Devs list. As some cleanup work has been done in the list, but there are still duplicates.
Is Atari not Atari Corporation or the other way around? There are 5 options:
Atari
Atari Corporation
Atari Games
Atari Interactive
Atarisoft
Are all of these valid? Should Atari be removed and add Atari Holding instead?
Or should all of them be just changed to Atari?
Atari full name is "Atari Inc."
-> Ataris Videogame division (including Home Computers) was sold to to "Jack Tramiel" (in 1984 - yes the previous owner of Commodore) which was named Atari Corporation or Atari Corp.
-> Ataris Arcade division was sold to Namco (1985) which was named Atari Games. End of 1990s Warner bought them back was integrated into Midway. For some time they used the Name "Atari Games" but as a company was integrated into Midway. Midway as a company also ceased to exists and is part of Warner Bros Games by now.
--> Atari Games video game subsidiary was Tengen
-> Technically there was a Telecommunications division which was sold to an electronic company. But for the focus of this page irrelevant.
-> Atari Inc was renamed after all that to Atari Holding but never produced anything, was afaik only to hold rights and maybe some estates. It was integrated into parent company Warner in Mid 90s without producing anything as far as I know. For the purpose of this side Atari Inc died in 1985.
-> Atarisoft is a Label of Atari Inc up to 1984 to release Atari catalogue for different systems like Intellivision, C64, PC and so on. The label died with Jack Tramiel takeover of the video game division, which did not release games for other systems up until IBM PC release of Tempest 2000.
-> Atari Interactive is complicated. It is the current company promoting Atari. It sees itself as descendant of Atari Inc. For that a understanding of history in Atari Corp is required. Atari Corp was sold to/merged with a disk drive manufacturer JTS. Thus Atari Corp as a company ceased to exist. After bankruptcy of JTS all remains including the right of the name Atari was bought by Hasbro. Hasbro sold the video game division Hasbro Interactive (including rights to Atari) later to Infogrames. Infogrames renamed itself to Atari SA and created/renamed its USA division to Atari Interactive. After the bankruptcy of Atari/Infogrames - Atari Interactive was one of the few bits of the company that survived. After sold out most of the more modern franchise games the company still exists. In short no there are a different companies just with the rights on the logo and name of Atari.
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duplicate entry:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/12766
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/61174
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Singstar R&B - PS2
Ive created a new listing for R&B UK release because the existing R&B listing is another European country, Poland maybe?
(Judging by the case rear art photo)
My new listing
https://vgcollect.com/item/264388
Old listing
https://vgcollect.com/item/128732
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Singstar R&B - PS2
Ive created a new listing for R&B UK release because the existing R&B listing is another European country, Poland maybe?
(Judging by the case rear art photo)
Old listing
https://vgcollect.com/item/128732
128732 is the Eastern European release, specifically CZ, HU, PL, and SK. I've updated its name alongside its images since they were sideways.
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Atari full name is "Atari Inc."
-> Ataris Videogame division (including Home Computers) was sold to to "Jack Tramiel" (in 1984 - yes the previous owner of Commodore) which was named Atari Corporation or Atari Corp.
-> Ataris Arcade division was sold to Namco (1985) which was named Atari Games. End of 1990s Warner bought them back was integrated into Midway. For some time they used the Name "Atari Games" but as a company was integrated into Midway. Midway as a company also ceased to exists and is part of Warner Bros Games by now.
--> Atari Games video game subsidiary was Tengen
-> Technically there was a Telecommunications division which was sold to an electronic company. But for the focus of this page irrelevant.
-> Atari Inc was renamed after all that to Atari Holding but never produced anything, was afaik only to hold rights and maybe some estates. It was integrated into parent company Warner in Mid 90s without producing anything as far as I know. For the purpose of this side Atari Inc died in 1985.
-> Atarisoft is a Label of Atari Inc up to 1984 to release Atari catalogue for different systems like Intellivision, C64, PC and so on. The label died with Jack Tramiel takeover of the video game division, which did not release games for other systems up until IBM PC release of Tempest 2000.
-> Atari Interactive is complicated. It is the current company promoting Atari. It sees itself as descendant of Atari Inc. For that a understanding of history in Atari Corp is required. Atari Corp was sold to/merged with a disk drive manufacturer JTS. Thus Atari Corp as a company ceased to exist. After bankruptcy of JTS all remains including the right of the name Atari was bought by Hasbro. Hasbro sold the video game division Hasbro Interactive (including rights to Atari) later to Infogrames. Infogrames renamed itself to Atari SA and created/renamed its USA division to Atari Interactive. After the bankruptcy of Atari/Infogrames - Atari Interactive was one of the few bits of the company that survived. After sold out most of the more modern franchise games the company still exists. In short no there are a different companies just with the rights on the logo and name of Atari.
The issue seems to be that there are multiple Atari companies that are legally distinct over the course of history.
1. Syzygy -> Atari Inc -> Atari Games -> Atari Holdings
2. Atari Corporation -> JTS -> Hasbro Interactive -> Infogrames Interactive -> Atari Interactive
3. GT Interactive -> Infogrames -> Atari Inc
Now, we don't add the legal type to companies, be it things like Inc, LLC, etc.
Atari Inc has been merged with Atari.
Even if we did decide to start using the legal types, I can't think of a good way to differentiate between the two different Atari Inc.
Then there is the situation where the existing entries in the database that should have Atari Corporation may have just Atari instead, and the large amount of entries that are probably going to have Atari set instead of Atari Interactive or Atari Games.
So what I am recommending next is that we merge down Atari Corporation into Atari as well, and add Atari Holdings (if you think there is a reason to add it) and keep Atari Interactive as is.
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so vgcollect don't track different companies because they are hard to distinct. Got it.
Just from somebody with a bit of experience doing this. Atari is like one of the more known game companies out there with a difficult to track history. But there a lot of others smaller dev studios with wild renaming, merging and reusing history - I can't pick specific names now, my memory is fading it was a long time ago. But one of the newer instances is Microprose. Funny enough also part of Hasbro-Infogrames train.
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If we can find an easy way to distinct the companies then we can certainly do it. It isn't like Mobygames where they have a wiki-like design and they actually have pages for all these different versions of Atari (and everything else) that makes it easier to use as reference. And while anyone could just use Mobygames to reference it, we can't expect everyone to do that and I can tell you that 99.9% of our users don't know there even is a difference or don't care. And frankly we should want to be at or get to a point where we don't need to rely on an outside website to manage our information. And then the other issue is that other reference websites have conflicting information. So 1 Atari to rule them all is way easier as far as attributes on a game database goes.
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Hi,
I put this in the wrong platform so please delete.
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/264573
Thanks
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Not sure what happened, but for some reason, the following entry was duplicated without artwork:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/264591
Please delete.
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Not sure what happened, but for some reason, the following entry was duplicated without artwork:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/264591
In total just now, I believe there were six empty entries submitted recently that I've just removed. In the future, these entries should all be reported here so they're not overlooked by staff.
And, if you are routinely having problems with submitting new entries, ensure that file sizes aren't large as it's the main cause for this error, explained here (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12681.0.html). I generally submit images no larger than 700px.
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I put this in the wrong platform so please delete.
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/264573
In the future, don't submit a second entry when making a mistake in the submission process. Instead, submit an edit so that the correction may be approved.
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You just rejected a back cover artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/77308 (PS1 EU: Monopoly [UK]) saying its the wrong one and should be on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679.
The problem is that the artwork i submitted has the correct barcode thats listed on the UK edition and the one you have added it to has a different barcode in the listing.
Im guessing its because there is a USK (German) age rating on it. Well, the barcode 5023117435065 has the USK rating on the artwork.
Maybe the [UK] is marked on the wrong listing?
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You just rejected a back cover artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/77308 (PS1 EU: Monopoly [UK]) saying its the wrong one and should be on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679.
English 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226092824146) (note "Developed by Blue Planet Software, Inc." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204741399407) (note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435058 (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/162314180649)(note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd. back cover text)
It is common for different items to share the same barcode information. Based on 77308's other entry data, your submitted back art is incorrect.
Both the first and second items linked above are found in the UK, so the descriptor may need updating to something like (Blue Planet Software) and (Gremlin Interactive).
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You just rejected a back cover artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/77308 (PS1 EU: Monopoly [UK]) saying its the wrong one and should be on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679.
English 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226092824146) (note "Developed by Blue Planet Software, Inc." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204741399407) (note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435058 (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/162314180649)(note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd. back cover text)
It is common for different items to share the same barcode information. Based on 77308's other entry data, your submitted back art is incorrect.
Both the first and second items linked above are found in the UK, so the descriptor may need updating to something like (Blue Planet Software) and (Gremlin Interactive).
So you now have a back artwork showing barcode 5023117435065 on the artwork on a listing that has barcode 5023117435058.
That doesnt seem right :/
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You just rejected a back cover artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/77308 (PS1 EU: Monopoly [UK]) saying its the wrong one and should be on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679.
English 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226092824146) (note "Developed by Blue Planet Software, Inc." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435065 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204741399407) (note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd." back cover text)
English/French/German 5023117435058 (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/162314180649)(note "Developed by Gremlin Interactive Ltd. back cover text)
It is common for different items to share the same barcode information. Based on 77308's other entry data, your submitted back art is incorrect.
Both the first and second items linked above are found in the UK, so the descriptor may need updating to something like (Blue Planet Software) and (Gremlin Interactive).
So you now have a back artwork showing barcode 5023117435065 on the artwork on a listing that has barcode 5023117435058.
Are you referring to 258679 (https://vgcollect.com/item/258679)? Because of the image size, I can't confidently say whether or not the Barcode information matches the barcode shown on the Back Art image. If you have reason to believe it doesn't, then it may be updated. Bear in mind that the entry has not had any subsequent edits supplied, meaning all information to it is original to its time of submission by another member. With that said, the front image may very well be incorrect too, but, again, the small image size prevents us from knowing.
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The barcode on the back art on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679
ends in 65
You can open this link directly in your browser
https://vgcollect.com/images/back-box-art/258679.jpg
Use Ctrl+Scroll wheel to move to say, 300% and you should be able to tell the last two digits.
Alternatively what can be done is to take 2 images from Ebay (or whatever) and resize/shape/crop them and shrink them down to 200px width and compare them to the image on the site. One will be close or will match and one won't. That is the only real way to tell which barcode is on a small image that is on the site, but sometimes JPEG compression makes it difficult.
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The barcode on the back art on https://vgcollect.com/item/258679
ends in 65
Back art for 258679 (https://vgcollect.com/item/258679) has been removed.
You can open this link directly in your browser
https://vgcollect.com/images/back-box-art/258679.jpg
Use Ctrl+Scroll wheel to move to say, 300% and you should be able to tell the last two digits.
Alternatively what can be done is to take 2 images from Ebay (or whatever) and resize/shape/crop them and shrink them down to 200px width and compare them to the image on the site. One will be close or will match and one won't. That is the only real way to tell which barcode is on a small image that is on the site, but sometimes JPEG compression makes it difficult.
Unfortunately, this doesn't help with confirming whether the front art is correct or not.
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Mario Strikers Charged Football
I've rechecked my copy, and it seems like this item page has some contradictions to it.
My copy has item number RVL-R4QP-UKV and barcode 045496900212 (images: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404287853493?epid=66602752)
The item page has item number RVL-R4QP-EUR and barcode 045496900212
So same barcode, but different item number. Also, the back cover looks to be taken from a french copy.
https://vgcollect.com/item/54553
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My copy has item number RVL-R4QP-UKV and barcode 045496900212 (images: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404287853493?epid=66602752)
The item page has item number RVL-R4QP-EUR and barcode 045496900212
So same barcode, but different item number. Also, the back cover looks to be taken from a french copy.
https://vgcollect.com/item/54553
RVL-R4QP-EUR is the disc number (https://cdn.mobygames.com/covers/6366330-mario-strikers-charged-wii-media.jpg). It's common to see the disc number be submitted to the Item Number field when higher priority numbers should be there instead (especially from entries this old.) RVL-R4QP-UKV may be submitted to the Item Number field in its place but will only be approved if the disc number is also transferred to the Description field. There isn't any reason for us to overwrite correct data simply because it's out of place.
Back cover art for 54553 has been removed.
A new entry for the FR regional release (https://vgcollect.com/item/264662) has been submitted.
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sorry blank one
https://vgcollect.com/item/264879
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whoops, used a template from another entry and forgot to correct the release date in the description. Please delete this earlier entry with incorrect launch event date.
https://vgcollect.com/item/265023
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whoops, used a template from another entry and forgot to correct the release date in the description. Please delete this earlier entry with incorrect launch event date.
https://vgcollect.com/item/265023
First, when creating a new entry and an error is made, do not create a duplicate entry to amend it. Instead, submit an edit submission. It is bad practice to do otherwise.
Regarding your edit submissions, the Description field data you've submitted for numerous entries is far too lengthy with unneeded information for our site's purposes.. At the same time, information such as mentioning the release date is repeated, as there are dedicated Release Date fields where that information should instead be submitted to. Here is a style guide's Description post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178499.html#msg178499) which explains all what sort of information is and isn't relevant.
Here is one of the proposed Description field edits you submitted:
EB Games Canada Exclusive NHL 12 Launch Party cover sleeve featuring Alex Burrows surrounded by other members of the Vancouver Canucks.
The cover was distributed on September 09, 2011 between 7pm and midnight. The athlete arrived for signing between 9pm and 11pm.
The first 250 people in line had the chance to meet Alex Burrows.
The location was at Best Buy, 2220 Cambie St, Vancouver, BC V5Z 2T7
Easily, the above text can be condensed for our site's purposes to this:
cover athlete: Alex Burrows
copies may or may not be signed by Alex Burrows
originally available at a launch party at Vancouver, Canada Best Buy location
That sort of brevity should be used for the entries needing updates.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/175698
The image on the back cover is of a Standard release, not a platinum.
A release that is English, Dutch(?) and Greek does seem to exist but with a different front cover.
https://www.player2gamestore.nl/a-58500834/playstation-1-games/ps1-need-for-speed-road-challenge-platinum/#description
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Concerning rejected description for Neo Cab
https://vgcollect.com/item/203349
1Print refers to this particular cover as a "Limited Edition".
https://www.gamespress.com/tr/Neo-Cab-Limited-Edition-Out-Now-For-Nintendo-Switch
information gathered from 1Print by GamesPress: "The Neo Cab Limited Edition is now available for USD34.99 via the 1Print Games website. Limited to 3000 units, the Neo Cab Limited Edition includes a copy of the Nintendo Switch game, inner cover artwork, Feelgrid Acrylic Keychain, Neo Cab Driver's Manual, Neo Cab Numbered Authenticity Card, and Neo Cab Logo Sticker."
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275747356643
This cover is packaged with several items. Check out others on eBay.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/175698
The image on the back cover is of a Standard release, not a platinum.
A release that is English, Dutch(?) and Greek does seem to exist but with a different front cover.
https://www.player2gamestore.nl/a-58500834/playstation-1-games/ps1-need-for-speed-road-challenge-platinum/#description
Front and back images have been updated. Both previous images and the Barcode field information were original to the entry, so the latter becomes prioritized in this instance.
The incorrect front cover image relates to the UK release (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204484586472). I didn't bother trying to identify the back cover image, since it wasn't even for a Platinum item.
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Concerning rejected description for Neo Cab
https://vgcollect.com/item/203349
1Print refers to this particular cover as a "Limited Edition".
https://www.gamespress.com/tr/Neo-Cab-Limited-Edition-Out-Now-For-Nintendo-Switch
information gathered from 1Print by GamesPress: "The Neo Cab Limited Edition is now available for USD34.99 via the 1Print Games website. Limited to 3000 units, the Neo Cab Limited Edition includes a copy of the Nintendo Switch game, inner cover artwork, Feelgrid Acrylic Keychain, Neo Cab Driver's Manual, Neo Cab Numbered Authenticity Card, and Neo Cab Logo Sticker."
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275747356643
This cover is packaged with several items. Check out others on eBay.
What marketing terms an online retailer use mean nothing to how an entry should be named, unless that same term is actually present on the item itself. This is an issue with nearly every Limited Run Games "special edition," but it's also common with other limited print companies. Since the Limited Edition term isn't actually present on 203349 (from what I've been able to tell), then the term can only be submitted to the Alt-Name field. However, there is no reason to repeat the entire game name, so only submit Limited Edition and not Neo Cab - Limited Edition. The Description field can also be updated to mention something like "sold online as Limited Edition."
Since we have no means to verify any reported production numbers, it's best to not submit that information at all. For instance, the product page for the standalone Neo Cab (https://1printgames.com/product/neo-cab-nintendo-switch/) doesn't mention anything about how many copies were manufactured. But, let us assume the information being reported by some third-party site is correct, that there are 3,000 copies. If that is true, we must also recognize that there are numerous bundles including Neo Cab (https://1printgames.com/product-tag/neo-cab/) also being sold. Are those copies a part of the reported 3,000? Or are there 3,000 standalone copies in addition to more that are included as part of these bundles? We don't know that answer, so it shouldn't be submitted as fact.
The other information about the item's contents are fine to submit (i.e. keychain, manual, and so forth.)
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Not sure if this is a fangame or something but it needs to be labelled as unofficial... or removed:
https://vgcollect.com/item/265381
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Not sure if this is a fangame or something but it needs to be labelled as unofficial... or removed:
https://vgcollect.com/item/265381
Its a bootleg. We wouldn't remove an entry. A quick search reveals that it exists physically. In the future you could have submitted an edit to change it to unofficial. ;)
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https://vgcollect.com/item/265540
blank one
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Regarding the [
Princess Natasha - Fun Pak (https://vgcollect.com/item/265985)] and the [March of the Penguins - Bundle Pack (https://vgcollect.com/item/265986)], the words "Bundle Pack" are indeed on the package, just on the side.
I would like to add it as the alternate title for Princess Natasha bundle as well as change the title for the March of the Penguins bundle.
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Regarding the [Princess Natasha - Fun Pak (https://vgcollect.com/item/265985)] and the [March of the Penguins - Bundle Pack (https://vgcollect.com/item/265986)], the words "Bundle Pack" are indeed on the package, just on the side.
Edit for 265986 approved, edit for 265985 rejected. For the Alt-Name field, there isn't any reason to repeat the base entry name. So, Bundle Pack should be used instead of Princess Natasha - Bundle Pack.
Based on the packaging text, this implies there are two versions: the first for Game Boy Advance and the second for DS. So, if there are two versions, then the Description field information should strictly state that a Game Boy Advance game is included and not a DS game, simply because the entry exists in a Game Boy Advance category. However, that text can be submitted as it is to the Box Text field.
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Hey,
I got an edit of my recent add of Plant Down in the database, a game distributed on itch.io: https://vgcollect.com/item/266615
I wanted to update the platform from PC - Digital Download to Android, since the game is only available as a .apk: https://rouli.itch.io/plant-down
The edit got rejected for the following: “Conflicting information, as itch.io is also present.”
As it’s an Android-only (as a platform, I’m not talking of Google Play or whatever) game released on itch.io, I hardly see any conflict there though.
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I wanted to update the platform from PC - Digital Download to Android, since the game is only available as a .apk: https://rouli.itch.io/plant-down
As it’s an Android-only (as a platform, I’m not talking of Google Play or whatever) game released on itch.io, I hardly see any conflict there though.
I wasn't aware itch.io's market offered games for Android devices. If you re-submit the edit, it will be approved.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/266803
sorry blank one
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https://vgcollect.com/item/266961
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https://vgcollect.com/item/76487
The "Gold Edition" of Resident Evil 5 was never released on the digital XBox 360 Gamestore, and all the images on this listing are of the physical disc game. This listing seems to be a mistake.
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Before I edit this entry (Zeit² - https://vgcollect.com/item/34038), I want to make sure it follows the style guide:
It currently is listed as "Zeit Squared" on VG Collect, but of course the official title is "Zeit²" as seen on the official Xbox Marketplace Listing (https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-us/Product/Zeit/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258410aa9) and on the box art.
Is the ² exponent allowed in an Item Name?
Or Does the ² exponent count as a "symbol" where a standard alphanumeric should be used in its place (e.g. "Zeit²" should be named "Zeit2" in VG Collect)?
Or is the current spelling ² out as it would be spoken ("Squared") the correct format?
I was planning on editing it to the more official exponent option, but I wanted to be certain it was following the style guide.
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Before I edit this entry (Zeit² - https://vgcollect.com/item/34038), I want to make sure it follows the style guide:
It currently is listed as "Zeit Squared" on VG Collect, but of course the official title is "Zeit²" as seen on the official Xbox Marketplace Listing (https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-us/Product/Zeit/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258410aa9) and on the box art.
Is the ² exponent allowed in an Item Name?
Or Does the ² exponent count as a "symbol" where a standard alphanumeric should be used in its place (e.g. "Zeit²" should be named "Zeit2" in VG Collect)?
Or is the current spelling ² out as it would be spoken ("Squared") the correct format?
I was planning on editing it to the more official exponent option, but I wanted to be certain it was following the style guide.
Use Zeit Squared but put the other form into Alt-name field.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/268116
https://vgcollect.com/item/268117
https://vgcollect.com/item/268118
three blanks
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https://vgcollect.com/item/268116
https://vgcollect.com/item/268117
https://vgcollect.com/item/268118
three blanks
Edits were later submitted to 268118 which clarifies what the entry should be. The entry now represents Breakers Collection in PlayStation 5 [EU] (https://vgcollect.com/item/268118).
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So I recently had a box art edit rejected for this item:
Mad Stalker: Full Metal Forth (https://vgcollect.com/item/221041 (https://vgcollect.com/item/221041))
I just got the game on mail yesterday and scanned the both the front and back covers, so I am pretty sure the art isn't wrong, haha.
But here is the thing:
Taking a look at the Strictly Limited website, I realized that there are two versions of this release.
One is being sold as "MAD STALKER: FULL METAL FORTH (MEGA DRIVE COMPATIBLE GAME)":
https://www.strictlylimitedgames.com/collections/mad-stalker-full-metal-forth/products/mad-stalker-full-metal-forth-mega-drive-game (https://www.strictlylimitedgames.com/collections/mad-stalker-full-metal-forth/products/mad-stalker-full-metal-forth-mega-drive-game)
And the other as "MAD STALKER: FULL METAL FORTH (GENESIS COMPATIBLE GAME)"
https://www.strictlylimitedgames.com/collections/mad-stalker-full-metal-forth/products/mad-stalker-full-metal-forth-genesis-game (https://www.strictlylimitedgames.com/collections/mad-stalker-full-metal-forth/products/mad-stalker-full-metal-forth-genesis-game)
My question here is: how should we list these?
Should the first one (the one I boght and tried to edit yesterday) be added to the database as an European release and the other as a North American one?
Or, since Strictly Limited is based in Germany, should both be considered European releases and the have the distinction between them made clear on each entry's name?
Thanks in advance.
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So I recently had a box art edit rejected for this item:
Mad Stalker: Full Metal Forth (https://vgcollect.com/item/221041 (https://vgcollect.com/item/221041))
I just got the game on mail yesterday and scanned the both the front and back covers, so I am pretty sure the art isn't wrong, haha.
To clarify, your edits were only rejected because they don't align with what the entry was seemingly intended to represent, so we shouldn't overwrite that entry's information.
Ordinarily, the two items would be placed in the EU category due to Strictly Limited Games being located in Europe, but that isn't the case in this situation since the two versions in question are region-specific releases. Because of that detail, the two items can be placed in their respective regional categories. From the Platform post of the style guide:
Online Exclusive Releases
If the publisher has created different versions to match different regions, then these may be put in the category that the packaging design is meant to homage. As an example, JoshProd, an EU company, will release US, EU and JP editions of games that can be put into their respective categories.
Example: 4x4 Jam with US design (https://vgcollect.com/item/141954) is in Dreamcast [NA], with EU design (https://vgcollect.com/item/147603) is in Dreamcast [EU] and with JP design (https://vgcollect.com/item/174653) is in Dreamcast [JP].
Originally, this item was submitted to the Sega Mega Drive [EU] sub-category, but it was possibly changed with later edits. Since we can't confirm what the original art was (if there was any), the updated art may have just been higher quality. At the same time, the entry may have been submitted to the EU category with the same thinking that you're presenting, that the item belongs in that category placement due to the publisher's location. But, since the entry creator has been inactive for nearly two years, we can't ask them for any clarification.
Since 221041 has featured NA details for 18 months without anyone else bringing attention to this problem, I find re-categorizing it to the Sega Genesis sub-category to be the best solution, which has been updated just now by me. A new entry for the Mega Drive version which you own can be submitted to that appropriate category.
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Perfect!
Thanks, dhaabi! I already created a new entry for the European release with the appropriate cover art.
Also, since I'm here, I should add that all those blank entries from before were mine. I had trouble with my internet connection and with some of the images I was trying to upload, so it all got messed up. Sorry for the trouble.
To clarify, your edits were only rejected because they don't align with what the entry was seemingly intended to represent, so we shouldn't overwrite that entry's information.
Ordinarily, the two items would be placed in the EU category due to Strictly Limited Games being located in Europe, but that isn't the case in this situation since the two versions in question are region-specific releases. Because of that detail, the two items can be placed in their respective regional categories. From the Platform post of the style guide:
Originally, this item was submitted to the Sega Mega Drive [EU] sub-category, but it was possibly changed with later edits. Since we can't confirm what the original art was (if there was any), the updated art may have just been higher quality. At the same time, the entry may have been submitted to the EU category with the same thinking that you're presenting, that the item belongs in that category placement due to the publisher's location. But, since the entry creator has been inactive for nearly two years, we can't ask them for any clarification.
Since 221041 has featured NA details for 18 months without anyone else bringing attention to this problem, I find re-categorizing it to the Sega Genesis sub-category to be the best solution, which has been updated just now by me. A new entry for the Mega Drive version which you own can be submitted to that appropriate category.
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My edit was rejected so someone else can fix it
https://vgcollect.com/item/213348. Gamefaqs lists the game as what is listed as the alt name, so the title is wrong. Gamefaqs is also inconsistent for this franchise as one entry uses a hyphen and the other uses a colon. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/search?game=wwi+front
Here is the other entry with the correct name
https://vgcollect.com/item/232423
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My edit was rejected so someone else can fix it
https://vgcollect.com/item/213348. Gamefaqs lists the game as what is listed as the alt name, so the title is wrong. Gamefaqs is also inconsistent for this franchise as one entry uses a hyphen and the other uses a colon. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/search?game=wwi+front
Here is the other entry with the correct name
https://vgcollect.com/item/232423
There is nothing to fix, as your edits were incorrect. Like I mentioned in the Admin Comments upon rejection, the issue relates to the common name rule. Your provided GameFAQs link isn't for the PlayStation 5 version released in NA but instead a parent listing for all items pertaining to it. Here is the specific page for the PS5 listing (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps5/323631-verdun/data), which I previously provided. As you'll see, the only item which is formatted as WWI Verdun: Western Front is a retail EU version. Every other release for that platform is formatted as Verdun.
Formatting between 213348 and 232423 differ for this same reason. Here is that item's GameFAQs page specifically for PlayStation 5 (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps5/323632-wwi-tannenberg-eastern-front/data), where you'll see that the name is formatted as WWI Tannenberg: Eastern Front. In short, it's a consistency error on GameFAQ's behalf.
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In short, it's a consistency error on GameFAQ's behalf.[/font]
which is another reason why its dumb that we use gamefaqs as gospel because this inconsistency makes this site look as disorganized and incompetent as they are.
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An instance of where GameFAQs is clearly in error on their two pages, so should we also be in error? Then what is the solution, do we just have the city names or the full titles? We can decide for ourselves, but then the issue will be who gets to decide on which name to use? I really do not know the answer or else I would just say "do it like this" and be done with it.
So the choice here is either keep it the way it is on GameFAQs (which is in error) or determine whether you care about the title enough to request a name exception poll.
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Re: Rejected "Release Date" Edit to `BLACK` in the Xbox 360 Game Store:
I updated Black - Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/69824) to add the release date as seen in the official Xbox 360 Game Store listed here: https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-us/Product/BLACK/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802454109fd.
As can be seen on the official Xbox 360 Games Store listing, it lists June 11, 2019 as the Release Date in the Xbox 360 Game Store.
Both
- in the Overview (Original release date: 6/11/2019)
- AND on the game listing (Release date: 6/11/2019)
However, the edit rejection mentions the 2008 date seen on the link to https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/black/BTCS0LP052HL which is for Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S (which is not what this listing was for).
This is an odd title in that it is an original 6th gen game, released for the original XBox and PS2 back in 2006. And then made available digitally on the 7th, 8th, and 9th gens digitally later. So obviously "2019" is not the most accurate date for the original version of this game. It even felt a bit odd for a date so late on the 360 marketplace seeing that is 3 generations back and 2019 was well past its relevant timeframe. And the 2008 date on the XBone listing also makes no sense considering that console didn't even exist yet. So definitely an odd situation. But the 2019 date was listed twice on the page specifically dedicated to the digital 360 listing of this game.
Based on the rejection from the admin, am I to start using the Xbox One/Xbox Series X|S listings for all the info for the Xbox 360 versions? Or are we to just not use info from the official Xbox 360 source if it seems "off" in any way? I just don't know what I'm supposed to do here. I occasionally get rejections for genres and other data grabbed directly from the source in these cases, and would appreciate some direction.
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Re: Rejected "Release Date" Edit to `BLACK` in the Xbox 360 Game Store:
I occasionally get rejections for genres and other data grabbed directly from the source in these cases, and would appreciate some direction.
From the first link (https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-us/Product/BLACK/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802454109fd) you've provided, the page implies the item is for Xbox 360. And, from the second link (https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/black/BTCS0LP052HL) you've provided, Xbox 360 is again mentioned alongside compatibility for Xbox One and Xbox Series platforms.
However, like you mentioned, it seems as if the two Xbox store pages have release date information reversed. If we look at our site's entry for the game (https://vgcollect.com/item/69824), you'll find its history to be telling. The entry was created in 2014, five full years before the presumed 2019 date you're suggesting. Do you think this entry was made so many years in advance, only with the assumption that the game would be released sometime in the future? That seems unlikely, and we can all safely assume that's false.
With that understanding, we can assume that the correct release date information for 69824 is April 6, 2008. But, given the inconsistency and lack of trustworthiness from Xbox's sites, we may not want to rely on them for such information. In general, if there is any reason to question information, the entry field information should be ignored altogether. There is no rule or expectancy to fill every entry field for every entry.
Regarding Genre field submissions, I only reject them when they are incorrect. For instance, one item you submitted information for is Sniper: Ghost Warrior (https://vgcollect.com/item/155620), but it is widely understood to not be labeled as action-adventure but instead the more niche tactical shooter or even stealth while being played in the first-person camera perspective, meaning it can be simplified to strategy or action. Assigning first-person shooter to the entry seems slightly disingenuous, given that the characteristics for the genre are different, but it and the two other options are more than ideal options. Something worth realizing about Xbox's marketplace is that they have a limited pool of genre instances, as even first-person shooter itself—a hugely recognized genre—is absent.
For the record, I generally rely on Wikipedia when confirming Genre field submissions. The source isn't useful in every situation, though, but that's only because not every game has an article. Nevertheless, for the games which are mentioned on the site, the information is reliable. With that said, genre classification is somewhat subjective, so some margin of difference can be allowed in some circumstances.
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In general, if there is any reason to question information, the entry field information should be ignored altogether.
I can get down with this. Usually if I go into an "edit" for one thing, I definitely attempt to fill in in all the stuff I can find while I'm in there, but there are certainly times where even the "official" sources seem a bit untrustworthy on certain data points.
And I think just leaving it empty is the nice balance between "well this is what the official source says, but it seems inaccurate" versus "this is our best guess based on our own research/context, but there's no way to be sure." And in the end, lots of that data isn't super important for just documenting a collection in the grand scheme of things.
Thanks for all your insight :)
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What was the creator's intention?
https://vgcollect.com/item/232825
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What was the creator's intention?
https://vgcollect.com/item/232825
Ordinarily, I'd go ahead and make the category change to reflect the JP item's release, but they're an active member so I sent them a message inquiring about the entry just in case any assumptions are wrong.
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No plans for a Western release. Asian release with English is due on 12 Jul 2024.
https://vgcollect.com/item/267136
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What was the creator's intention?
https://vgcollect.com/item/232825
Ordinarily, I'd go ahead and make the category change to reflect the JP item's release, but they're an active member so I sent them a message inquiring about the entry just in case any assumptions are wrong.
darkouer has updated the entry to reflect the JP release, as it was assumed.
No plans for a Western release. Asian release with English is due on 12 Jul 2024.
https://vgcollect.com/item/267136
Updated.
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entry is for EU:
https://vgcollect.com/item/81021
but I can't find any source of this front cover with "only for"-edge. My copy also don't have this. Should I create a new entry or overwrite this picture? I think it could be a fake cover or a cover from another region canad or australia?
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entry is for EU:
https://vgcollect.com/item/81021
but I can't find any source of this front cover with "only for"-edge. My copy also don't have this. Should I create a new entry or overwrite this picture? I think it could be a fake cover or a cover from another region canad or australia?
It's outdated stock art which needs replacing.
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Tried to edit the Adventure Island (https://vgcollect.com/item/5409) title to match the naming scheme for variants as seen in the VGCollect Style Guide (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,22.0.html) but it was rejected with the following comment:
Admin comments: While a name descriptor is needed, "round seal" is a bad choice, as both a circle and oval are round. Use "circle seal" instead.
I'm not sure if this was a mistake or if the guide needed to be updated.
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Tried to edit the Adventure Island (https://vgcollect.com/item/5409) title to match the naming scheme for variants as seen in the VGCollect Style Guide (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,22.0.html) but it was rejected with the following comment:
Admin comments: While a name descriptor is needed, "round seal" is a bad choice, as both a circle and oval are round. Use "circle seal" instead.
I'm not sure if this was a mistake or if the guide needed to be updated.
The supplied comments weren't a mistake. If anything, the style guide needs updating. However, with that said, the variant section of the style guide highlights how descriptors work on a general level than instead instructing which specific descriptors to use.
Plenty of entries in the same category use circle Seal than round Seal, as you'll see here (https://vgcollect.com/search/advanced/13/%22circle%22/no-filter/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/no-filter/no-filter/no-filter). I'll also mention that these sorts of descriptors should feature the term seal with an uppercase s, as it is specifically referencing the Seal of Quality.
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This game doesn't exist
https://vgcollect.com/item/41122
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neither does this one...
https://vgcollect.com/item/166777
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I don't think homebrew games belong in the main library, I've seen others...
example
Mario Collection
https://vgcollect.com/item/128823
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this game "Driven to Destruction", released as test drive eve of destruction so it can be removed,
https://vgcollect.com/item/1834
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Looks like there are two copies of MXRider, should be merged into one.
https://vgcollect.com/item/47189
https://vgcollect.com/item/1931
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Not sure this Brazil listing belongs in NA region,
Lord of The Rings, The: Aragorn's Quest
https://vgcollect.com/item/214059
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Not a real release,
Dragon Ball: Budokai AF
https://vgcollect.com/item/128865
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Not sure this Brazil listing belongs in NA region,
Lord of The Rings, The: Aragorn's Quest
https://vgcollect.com/item/214059
There is nothing wrong about this item's category placement.
https://vgcollect.com/item/128865
https://vgcollect.com/item/1834
https://vgcollect.com/item/128823
I'm not ignoring these but letting tripredacus handle them when they're available to do so. There may be reason to keep the "homebrew" games since they do have physical releases, albeit releases I've only seen in Asia markets.
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This homebrew game don't belong in main library,
Tribute to Michael Jackson's Moonwalker, A
https://vgcollect.com/item/128824
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This homebrew game don't belong in main library
Like I mentioned, the entries addressed in my previous comment have a physical release of some capacity (whether this situation is fine to re-categorize it or not is a decision I'm not making), meaning their Release Type should instead be set to Unofficial Release, should the entries be allowed to remain at all. I'm not sure what you mean by "main library," because any physical item relating to a category—regardless if it's a bootleg or aftermarket release—is acceptable, whether you personally agree with it or not.
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According to common name rule,
SRS: Street Racing Syndicate should become Street Racing Syndicate: SRS
https://vgcollect.com/item/1107
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This homebrew game don't belong in main library
Like I mentioned, the entries addressed in my previous comment have a physical release of some capacity (whether this situation is fine to re-categorize it or not is a decision I'm not making), meaning their Release Type should instead be set to Unofficial Release, should the entries be allowed to remain at all. I'm not sure what you mean by "main library," because any physical item relating to a category—regardless if it's a bootleg or aftermarket release—is acceptable, whether you personally agree with it or not.
yes, the release types of the homebrew games should be set to unofficial release. But they should not appear in main NTSC library, as people expect to see only offical games when they click this Playstation (NA) link...https://vgcollect.com/browse/ps2
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According to common name rule,
SRS: Street Racing Syndicate should become Street Racing Syndicate: SRS
https://vgcollect.com/item/1107
You do not understand the common name rule. From the style guide:
GameTitle is the commonly accepted game name. Our primary source for common titles is GameFAQs (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/). They can be found in the Releases section, or on pages for a specific release's box art.
A name source may have errors in their title that need to be corrected before used here. These may include using numeric vs roman numeral, title for a localised version that doesn't match the art, or a translation/romanization error.
As I've already mentioned in provided Admin Comments upon your edit's rejection, the GameFAQs page for this release (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/914463-street-racing-syndicate) is formatted as Street Racing Syndicate.
they should not appear in main NTSC library, as people expect to see only offical games when they click this Playstation (NA) link...https://vgcollect.com/browse/ps2
Nobody is expecting that but you.
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These entries for Twisted Metal Black Online are redundant, please merge into one.
https://vgcollect.com/item/16190
https://vgcollect.com/item/110544
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These entries for Twisted Metal Black Online are redundant, please merge into one.
This is a brief reminder to report duplicate entries to the Duplicate List topic (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12669.0.html).
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Regarding the DBZ and Mario PS2 games, they are not homebrews. And I want to be clear for any instance of a licensed property getting a romhack or a fan-game, those are not homebrews either. Homebrew can only be used on "game data" (aka items in digital categories) or OC. Fan-games that use existing IP are not homebrews, so they should be set to unofficial release.
And the DBZ and Mario PS2 games should only have entry if there is a physical release. It doesn't matter if they are bootlegs or not, bootlegs exist in many game categories. We are not one of those sites that forbids bootlegs. Now if there is no actual pressed version of those PS2 games, then they cannot be added. So if they only exist as ISO and not pressed, so they can be burned and played on hacked system, or using emulator, we do not yet track that type of thing. We want to be able to do it eventually, but we have to figure out how to be able to actually make entries for games and attach them to the existing entries for physical items. When we can do that, they we can have support for console-based ROMs that were not released on physical media, official or otherwise.
Regarding the Driven to Desctruction game, we are allowing the entry until it is proven that it doesn't exist, which may require contacting the game's original publisher.
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I tried to edit item #3526 by updating the front and back box art. I got this rejection note:
Submitted artwork is attempting existing data to change entry's identity. Previous approved submissions reverted or changed. A new entry will need to be submitted if you're wanting to add this specific item. https://www.ebay.com/itm/305594728779
The thing is, I'm updating the images because the current images are of the box without the slipcover. My images were of the slipcover. The EBay listing provided by the admin is just some dude who's trying to pass off an incomplete set as a CIB.
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And to add to my previous post, dhabbi added item number 32587.209.US, which is the item number on the box art under the slipcover. But the slipcover itself has a different item number, as it says "Box part number 32587.491.US".
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I tried to edit item #3526 by updating the front and back box art.
If the information is re-submitted, it will be approved. Both the slipcover and case item numbers should be mentioned in the Description field.
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Done, thanks dhaabi.
Just pointing out that the EBay item can not be proven to be CIB since no barcode is present. Sometimes the barcode can be just a sticker on the seal wrap (which then gets lost when the item is opened) but this is rare and 95% of games without a barcode are just games missing a slipcover. Anyways it can't be proven that a specific release has a "seal wrap sticker barcode" as long as we don't have pictures of a factory sealed copy. And the contrary, games that do have a barcode on the back cover art, doesn't necessarily mean that this game never had a slipcover.
Thanks again.
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Just pointing out that the EBay item can not be proven to be CIB since no barcode is present. Sometimes the barcode can be just a sticker on the seal wrap (which then gets lost when the item is opened) but this is rare and 95% of games without a barcode are just games missing a slipcover. Anyways it can't be proven that a specific release has a "seal wrap sticker barcode" as long as we don't have pictures of a factory sealed copy. And the contrary, games that do have a barcode on the back cover art, doesn't necessarily mean that this game never had a slipcover.
Thousands upon thousands of game items exist, and each should be treated on an individual level despite any regularities which often can be noticed. In this situation, I came across a number of sealed keepcase copies (https://www.ebay.com/itm/225258975223) of The Movies. But, without knowing how this item was released, this keepcase without a barcode sequence easily could have been a part of a larger boxed collection. So, it's better to reject these sorts of entry changes when unsure and to begin a dialogue concerning it.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/242405
This was suggested to be moved to the Apple Accessory category (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10192.msg206160.html#msg206160), since it's an iPhone accessory, not a PS5 one. Does the "Playstation" branding overrides it?
https://playbackbone.com/products/backbone-one-playstation/
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https://vgcollect.com/item/225045
Same reasoning as why USK-rated games must carry the DE mark or anything ClassInd must go to BR. SMECCV = MX (where SMECCV is enforced by law)
Here's a listing with Spanish + ESRB from MercadoLibre Chile: https://articulo.mercadolibre.cl/MLC-2493653946-ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5-_JM), one from WePlay Chile (the only big box retailer left in the country) (https://www.weplay.cl/preventa-ratchet-clank-rift-apart-ps5.html), and one from Sony Chile (https://store.sony.cl/ps5-ratchet-clank-rift-apart/p)
Editing for other countries:
Argentina: https://store.sony.com.ar/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart/p
Peru: https://phantom.pe/ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5.html
Colombia: https://gamer4ever.com.co/products/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart-fisico-nuevo
Uruguay: https://www.macrotec.com.uy/ratchet-clank-rift-apart-nuevo-ps5
Ecuador: https://store.sony.com.ec/ratchet-y-clank-ps5/p
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No, it became clear in the recent Style Discurrion (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12753.0.html) thread that PlayStation has become a brand on its own that is separate from the console itself. Similar to how Microsoft treats everything under its gaming division as Xbox. So this is an iPhone Accessory...
BUT the issue here is the Apple category is only for computers (where tablets count) and consoles and not for phones.
So the only place this should be put is Other Accessory
https://vgcollect.com/browse/accessory
https://vgcollect.com/item/242405
This was suggested to be moved to the Apple Accessory category (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10192.msg206160.html#msg206160), since it's an iPhone accessory, not a PS5 one. Does the "Playstation" branding overrides it?
https://playbackbone.com/products/backbone-one-playstation/
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https://vgcollect.com/item/225045
Same reasoning as why USK-rated games must carry the DE mark or anything ClassInd must go to BR. SMECCV = MX (where SMECCV is enforced by law)
Here's a listing with Spanish + ESRB from MercadoLibre Chile: https://articulo.mercadolibre.cl/MLC-2493653946-ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5-_JM), one from WePlay Chile (the only big box retailer left in the country) (https://www.weplay.cl/preventa-ratchet-clank-rift-apart-ps5.html), and one from Sony Chile (https://store.sony.cl/ps5-ratchet-clank-rift-apart/p)
Editing for other countries:
Argentina: https://store.sony.com.ar/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart/p
Peru: https://phantom.pe/ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5.html
Colombia: https://gamer4ever.com.co/products/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart-fisico-nuevo
Uruguay: https://www.macrotec.com.uy/ratchet-clank-rift-apart-nuevo-ps5
Ecuador: https://store.sony.com.ec/ratchet-y-clank-ps5/p
This entry is fine on its own. It doesn't get TLD in the title because there is no other entry in the PS5 [NA] with the same name. It has release country in description.
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No, it became clear in the recent Style Discurrion (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12753.0.html) thread that PlayStation has become a brand on its own that is separate from the console itself. Similar to how Microsoft treats everything under its gaming division as Xbox. So this is an iPhone Accessory...
BUT the issue here is the Apple category is only for computers (where tablets count) and consoles and not for phones.
So the only place this should be put is Other Accessory
https://vgcollect.com/browse/accessory
https://vgcollect.com/item/242405
This was suggested to be moved to the Apple Accessory category (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10192.msg206160.html#msg206160), since it's an iPhone accessory, not a PS5 one. Does the "Playstation" branding overrides it?
https://playbackbone.com/products/backbone-one-playstation/
That would be the case had the discussion yielded a poll or anything fruitful from the community at large, but the topic was deemed unimportant from everyone else but staff. As you mentioned in the topic, "option 6 is winning without a poll." So, there is nothing wrong with 242045 and its current category placement.
6. Keep it as "wherever" placement as long as there isn't any dupes.
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blank one
https://vgcollect.com/item/271189
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blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/271327
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In regards to the rejected release date for Mean Santa for the Atari 2600[NA], https://vgcollect.com/item/35644, the following is a direct quote from the publisher on 10/27/2009:
"The wait is over!
Mean Santa has officially been released and is ready to be shipped via Priority Mail.
Get yours for $25.00 + postage below:
Postage:
$5.00 USA
$11.00 Canada / Mexico
$13.00 Other / International
Handling: $1.00 For PayPal transaction/conversion fees ( to albackiel@aol.com )
Payment: Will accept a check drawn on a US bank or PayPal.
All prices are in US DOLLARS.
Mean Santa comes complete with a serial-numbered cartridge (1 of 100, 2 of 100, 3 of 100 etc.), case, and game manual.
It will only be a limited run of 100 games."
The quote can be found in the AtariAge forum post by the publisher: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/148718-mean-santa-2600/
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In regards to the rejected release date for Mean Santa for the Atari 2600[NA], https://vgcollect.com/item/35644, the following is a direct quote from the publisher on 10/27/2009:
While there is now evidence of the item shipping on October 27, we still cannot pinpoint a specific date for which it arrived to those reserving it. From that forum topic, the earliest evidence of orders being fulfilled is October 31, but it's possible for it to have arrived sooner for others. Like with most if not all items which were exclusively available from online orders, we're unable to select Day field information. There is nothing wrong with just select Month and Year information, so October 2009 would be suitable to submit.
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Hi,
Please correct the developer "Pumkin Studios" to "Pumpkin Studios." Here is a database entry with this developer: https://vgcollect.com/item/7790
Thank you.
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Hi,
Please correct the developer "Pumkin Studios" to "Pumpkin Studios." Here is a database entry with this developer: https://vgcollect.com/item/7790
Thank you.
Changed name
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blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/271487
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I recently attempted to replace/update the front and back images of RealSports Baseball, https://vgcollect.com/item/137993, because the current images are of the instruction manual, not the box. I received the following reason.
"Reason: Action Not Allowed. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: Just like the other Atari 2600 item I rejected yesterday, you need to post these sorts of errors to the forums in the Error Listings topic."
Also, I attempted to update the cartridge image for Space Invaders (red box), https://vgcollect.com/item/16648, because the current image is of the PAL cartridge as denoted by the "P" in the cartridge item #, CX2632P, clearly shown on the cart. The correct NTSC cart image has item # CX2632, and this is the image I attempted to upload, and received the following message.
"Reason: Action Not Allowed. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: Post to Error Listings topics, as you seem to be converting an entry. Your submitted Description text outlining Made in Taiwan cartridge with number ending in 032 does not match with the submitted Made in China cartridge art which ends in 002."
So, I'm confused. Are images of the manual acceptable artwork submissions as in the case of RealSports Baseball? For Space Invaders, do I change the region to Atari2600 [EU] and ask for it to be merged with the already present European database entry, https://vgcollect.com/item/65498, then resubmit the [NA] data? This is strange because I've never had these kinds of issues before when replacing images that are clearly erroneous while maintaining the integrity of the existing entry.
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I recently attempted to replace/update the front and back images of RealSports Baseball, https://vgcollect.com/item/137993, because the current images are of the instruction manual, not the box. I received the following reason.
Also, I attempted to update the cartridge image for Space Invaders (red box), https://vgcollect.com/item/16648, because the current image is of the PAL cartridge as denoted by the "P" in the cartridge item #, CX2632P, clearly shown on the cart. The correct NTSC cart image has item # CX2632, and this is the image I attempted to upload, and received the following message.
So, I'm confused. Are images of the manual acceptable artwork submissions as in the case of RealSports Baseball? For Space Invaders, do I change the region to Atari2600 [EU] and ask for it to be merged with the already present European database entry, https://vgcollect.com/item/65498, then resubmit the [NA] data? This is strange because I've never had these kinds of issues before when replacing images that are clearly erroneous while maintaining the integrity of the existing entry.
Since you've been active in submitting variant data, these sorts of proposed submissions appear as attempts to convert an entry into something else which should always be avoided. That said, perhaps that kind of attempt wasn't being made, but, if there's reason for staff to think that is the case, then those submissions will be rejected. Submissions can always be re-sent, and we'd rather an explanation be given for us to understand the situation and the general types of errors we're likely to encounter so we know what to research and look out for when fact-checking. Unlike what you suggest, the existing incorrect data are not "clearly erroneous" either.
Very few of the entries in older categories such as Atari 2600 have existing entry details to help anyone to discern what specific item each entry is intended to represent or if a a set of entry art is correct or mismatched, so bulk submissions which seem to be converting the entry are sometimes confusing without explanation. Matters have become increasingly complicated because variant entries for the same base item are being made simultaneous to actions correcting older entries, with many of the newer entries themselves also lacking details.
I would suggest that, if you plan to make any substantial corrections to an entry which could be construed as changing the identity of the entry altogether, to also post in this topic about it so that staff are aware of the action's reason before they respond to the edit queue. Not all edit submission changes are obvious to staff—especially when variants are involved—so provided explanations in these sorts of circumstances help staff understand why certain edit submissions are being made. As has been suggested, providing simple entry details outlining differences is also helpful, such as the updates I provided for 15577 (https://vgcollect.com/item/15577) and 271815 (https://vgcollect.com/item/271815).
Because you didn't provide your submitted images in your forum post, I don't remember what the images I rejected look like in detail. But, if I recall correctly, your cartridge art submission for 16648 directly contradicted the information you also supplied to the Description field (and both contradicted the existing entry information), which is the chief reason the edits were rejected altogether and I suggested to post to this topic.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/94689
is a frankenstein entry. Front & Back cover is from the German Version. Disc is UK version. I have currently some changes pending which add item numbers for all items of the german version. But notice this issue afterwards.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/94689
is a frankenstein entry. Front & Back cover is from the German Version. Disc is UK version. I have currently some changes pending which add item numbers for all items of the german version. But notice this issue afterwards.
Cart Art image has been removed.
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The front and back artwork for
https://vgcollect.com/item/35835 are the prototype boxes for the unreleased 1983 game and not the unofficial release by CGE Services. I can upload the correct boxes for the unofficial release , but I wanted to notify the mods prior to submitting the edit as this can get confusing. I'll wait to upload until one of the mods acknowledges this post.
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The front and back artwork for https://vgcollect.com/item/35835 are the prototype boxes for the unreleased 1983 game and not the unofficial release by CGE Services. I can upload the correct boxes for the unofficial release , but I wanted to notify the mods prior to submitting the edit as this can get confusing. I'll wait to upload until one of the mods acknowledges this post.
I can see what you mean. Feel free to upload the correct images to the front and back and I will approve them.
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blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/272969
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Asterix for the Atari 2600 [EU] has two variants. One is has a 1983 copyright to Atari, Inc. on the box and cart, and the other has a 1985 copyright to Atari Corp. on the box and cart. The current database entry for the EU/PAL Asterix, https://vgcollect.com/browse/2600eu/2, has the 1985 copyright cartridge image, but the front page image of the 1983 copyright manual is being used as the front box image. Furthermore, the original poster used 1983 as the release date. I can upload the proper images, but my question is which will be appropriate to update the entry? Should I upload the 1985 front and back images and change the release date to 1985? Or should I update the entry with the 1983 front, back, and cartridge images and leave the release date alone?
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Asterix for the Atari 2600 [EU] has two variants. One is has a 1983 copyright to Atari, Inc. on the box and cart, and the other has a 1985 copyright to Atari Corp. on the box and cart. The current database entry for the EU/PAL Asterix, https://vgcollect.com/browse/2600eu/2, has the 1985 copyright cartridge image, but the front page image of the 1983 copyright manual is being used as the front box image. Furthermore, the original poster used 1983 as the release date. I can upload the proper images, but my question is which will be appropriate to update the entry? Should I upload the 1985 front and back images and change the release date to 1985? Or should I update the entry with the 1983 front, back, and cartridge images and leave the release date alone?
Removed front image, release year and description.
Priority on identification given to the cart image, so make it into the 1985 version.
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A2600 [EU] entry
https://vgcollect.com/item/60765 has several errors. First, the front and back box images are for the Atari 7800. Second, the title seems to be referring to Baseball released by Sears and Roebuck (see https://vgcollect.com/item/10717 for reference) due to the title descriptor calling it the "8 Tele-games label" version. Sears did not release PAL versions of their titles, but Atari, Inc. appears to have released a PAL version of their Realsports Baseball (https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-realsports-baseball_40798.html); however, finding any evidence of its existence seems to be hard to do. Even Atarimania doesn't have images of the box or cart, just a copyright 1982 multi-language manual. Lastly, it appears that the cartridge image in the entry in question is a copyright 1986 Atari Corp. variant. That doesn't mean the Atari Corp. cartridge isn't a legitimate PAL release, it's just that I can find no evidence of a PAL Realsports Baseball title, 1982 or otherwise.
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A2600 [EU] entry https://vgcollect.com/item/60765 has several errors. First, the front and back box images are for the Atari 7800. Second, the title seems to be referring to Baseball released by Sears and Roebuck (see https://vgcollect.com/item/10717 for reference) due to the title descriptor calling it the "8 Tele-games label" version. Sears did not release PAL versions of their titles, but Atari, Inc. appears to have released a PAL version of their Realsports Baseball (https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-realsports-baseball_40798.html); however, finding any evidence of its existence seems to be hard to do. Even Atarimania doesn't have images of the box or cart, just a copyright 1982 multi-language manual. Lastly, it appears that the cartridge image in the entry in question is a copyright 1986 Atari Corp. variant. That doesn't mean the Atari Corp. cartridge isn't a legitimate PAL release, it's just that I can find no evidence of a PAL Realsports Baseball title, 1982 or otherwise.
As you've said, 60765 is likely meant to represent 10717 (or 10718 (https://vgcollect.com/item/10718)) and was erroneously placed in the EU sub-cat. It's been merged into 10717.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/274423 blank
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https://www.vgcollect.com/item/147899 is not a valid entry. Jr. Pac-Man was never released by Atari in a silver box, only red boxes such as the following:
https://vgcollect.com/item/95130 (1986 variant)
https://vgcollect.com/item/274948 (1987 variant)
https://vgcollect.com/item/274949 (1988 variant)
Unfortunately, the original entry is sparse on details, so it could be either of the three variants.
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The following A2600 [EU] entry for Activision's Enuduro,
https://vgcollect.com/item/107873, has the cartridge image for the Australian release, https://vgcollect.com/item/273052. Otherwise, the only other European release of Enduro with a green cartridge is https://vgcollect.com/item/143694
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If we can find an easy way to distinct the companies then we can certainly do it. It isn't like Mobygames where they have a wiki-like design and they actually have pages for all these different versions of Atari (and everything else) that makes it easier to use as reference. And while anyone could just use Mobygames to reference it, we can't expect everyone to do that and I can tell you that 99.9% of our users don't know there even is a difference or don't care. And frankly we should want to be at or get to a point where we don't need to rely on an outside website to manage our information. And then the other issue is that other reference websites have conflicting information. So 1 Atari to rule them all is way easier as far as attributes on a game database goes.
If there is to be only one Atari selection for the purposes of our site, then the options need to be condensed. Of course, I could make that action, but I'm posting this comment more as a means of making sure that's still the action we're needing to take.
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That is in regards to Atari vs Atari Corporation in the Publishers list. I would consider Atarimania to be the authoritative source on Atari releases over Mobygames or any other website.
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That is in regards to Atari vs Atari Corporation in the Publishers list. I would consider Atarimania to be the authoritative source on Atari releases over Mobygames or any other website.
So, Atari and Atari Corporation should be merged together? I returned to this topic because I am routinely encountering edit submissions in the queue that seek to change one of the options to the other. In the latest batch of edits, I rejected them until some definitive answer and action is made.
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https://www.vgcollect.com/item/65963 - I submitted an updated front and back cover for the Mario Bros. Atari 2600 [EU] release, but the back cover image was rejected. If you look close at the bottom of the current image (as well as the original front image), you will notice that it is for the Australian release https://vgcollect.com/item/273653, thus the reason was updating the image.
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https://www.vgcollect.com/item/65963 - I submitted an updated front and back cover for the Mario Bros. Atari 2600 [EU] release, but the back cover image was rejected. If you look close at the bottom of the current image (as well as the original front image), you will notice that it is for the Australian release https://vgcollect.com/item/273653, thus the reason was updating the image.
Thanks for clarifying. I've removed the back art for 65963.
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That is in regards to Atari vs Atari Corporation in the Publishers list. I would consider Atarimania to be the authoritative source on Atari releases over Mobygames or any other website.
So, Atari and Atari Corporation should be merged together? I returned to this topic because I am routinely encountering edit submissions in the queue that seek to change one of the options to the other. In the latest batch of edits, I rejected them until some definitive answer and action is made.
I do not have an answer to that question. Basically the primary issue is that Atari has been at least 3 different companies over the years but always just use the Atari logo despite having different official names. Should the option selected in the game entry reflect the logo or the name Atari happened to have been calling itself at the time? It is the type of thing that could be made into a poll, but I fear the amount of input would be extremely limited. Not due to forum participation but rather the amount of die-hard Atari collectors that participate in the forum can be counted on one hand.
If it comes down to it, we can run a poll. But even in that case, we would need to be provided with a ruleset for handling which Atari corporate name is used in which situation. Like if it can be narrowed down to something simple like MM/YY-MM/YY uses Atari, another range uses Atari Corp, another uses the other name that was already merged, we can use that. But if there is overlap in the name uses we can't. I haven't dug into this situation myself to know if rules like that can be crafted or if it wouldn't work.
I'm personally fine with merging the two into one, going on the current practice that we drop trade declarations on company names, but I don't want to just do it on my own.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/61229
ambiguous entry. FR pictures & Barcode.
description with promotion texts?
afaik illegal item number. Should have -FRA if french. cartridge is always -UKV. Afaik DE, IT and FR got there own box+manual, all other english.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/61229
ambiguous entry. FR pictures & Barcode.
description with promotion texts?
afaik illegal item number. Should have -FRA if french. cartridge is always -UKV. Afaik DE, IT and FR got there own box+manual, all other english.
It is common to see cart item numbers as the main item number on older entries.
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no the cart has -UKV thats the point. There is afaik no -EUR for this game - thats why I'm confused what this should be. There may be a benelux release with a -EUR on box, but I doubt they have a different cart suffix than UKV.
The uk (which was distributed also spain (+ portugal?), nordic (finnish, swedish) according to the manual), french, german and italian release all have -UKV on the cart.
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no the cart has -UKV thats the point. There is afaik no -EUR for this game - thats why I'm confused what this should be. There may be a benelux release with a -EUR on box, but I doubt they have a different cart suffix than UKV.
The uk (which was distributed also spain (+ portugal?), nordic (finnish, swedish) according to the manual), french, german and italian release all have -UKV on the cart.
Based on the original entry details, 61229 (https://vgcollect.com/item/61229) has been updated to Retro Arcade Classics [FR] with Description details reflecting a -UKV cartridge number.
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That is in regards to Atari vs Atari Corporation in the Publishers list. I would consider Atarimania to be the authoritative source on Atari releases over Mobygames or any other website.
So, Atari and Atari Corporation should be merged together? I returned to this topic because I am routinely encountering edit submissions in the queue that seek to change one of the options to the other. In the latest batch of edits, I rejected them until some definitive answer and action is made.
I do not have an answer to that question. Basically the primary issue is that Atari has been at least 3 different companies over the years but always just use the Atari logo despite having different official names. Should the option selected in the game entry reflect the logo or the name Atari happened to have been calling itself at the time? It is the type of thing that could be made into a poll, but I fear the amount of input would be extremely limited. Not due to forum participation but rather the amount of die-hard Atari collectors that participate in the forum can be counted on one hand.
If it comes down to it, we can run a poll. But even in that case, we would need to be provided with a ruleset for handling which Atari corporate name is used in which situation. Like if it can be narrowed down to something simple like MM/YY-MM/YY uses Atari, another range uses Atari Corp, another uses the other name that was already merged, we can use that. But if there is overlap in the name uses we can't. I haven't dug into this situation myself to know if rules like that can be crafted or if it wouldn't work.
I'm personally fine with merging the two into one, going on the current practice that we drop trade declarations on company names, but I don't want to just do it on my own.
The question then is if I should continue approving such edit submissions or reject them. I'm only asking this publicly so that others can know if it's worth their time proposing such changes.
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I tried to edit this yu gi oh duelist roses listing with the correct front yet it was rejected since a german version has a sticker on the front
However this listing is the english version with english backside
https://vgcollect.com/item/78152
The english cover should be superior over the german one. this ain't a german version. the current front cover is wrong
can people actually use some glasses back there before they reject stuff?
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I tried to edit this yu gi oh duelist roses listing with the correct front yet it was rejected since a german version has a sticker on the front
However this listing is the english version with english backside
https://vgcollect.com/item/78152
If you take the time to read the entry details, you would see that the artwork you're trying to submit is incorrect as it is for the UK variant. Here is an eBay listing for the item with barcode 4012927024300 (https://www.ebay.de/itm/146028933183).
Meanwhile, here is an eBay listing (https://www.ebay.de/itm/235770934053) for the "card text left" German variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/270645). And here is an eBay listing (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186678056490) for the "card text left" British variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/270641).
However, this is not to say that the entry names for this group of items are ideal. From my observation, 78152 and 270645 should have two entry name descriptors (e.g. (card text left / Achtung!) and (card text left / Deutsche Version)) while clarifying in the Description field that they were released in Germany. 270641 (and 270642 (https://vgcollect.com/item/270642)) should omit the TLD. I will let nathan776 handle those actions, though.
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I tried to edit this yu gi oh duelist roses listing with the correct front yet it was rejected since a german version has a sticker on the front
However this listing is the english version with english backside
https://vgcollect.com/item/78152
If you take the time to read the entry details, you would see that the artwork you're trying to submit is incorrect as it is for the UK variant. Here is an eBay listing for the item with barcode 4012927024300 (https://www.ebay.de/itm/146028933183).
Meanwhile, here is an eBay listing (https://www.ebay.de/itm/235770934053) for the "card text left" German variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/270645). And here is an eBay listing (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186678056490) for the "card text left" British variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/270641).
However, this is not to say that the entry names for this group of items are ideal. From my observation, 78152 and 270645 should have two entry name descriptors (e.g. (card text left / Achtung!) and (card text left / Deutsche Version)) while clarifying in the Description field that they were released in Germany. 270641 (and 270642 (https://vgcollect.com/item/270642)) should omit the TLD. I will let nathan776 handle those actions, though.
can people actually use some glasses back there before they reject stuff?
I hope you're able to get your prescription soon.
can you explain to me what the difference is between my submission
(https://i.imgur.com/KtgM5Rm.jpeg)
and the pic that's now chosen?
(https://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/270641.jpg)
aside from this new pic being trash quality
regardless if you take 10 seconds to look for english versions online left versions are pretty common
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Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/270641).
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Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/270641).
it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description
https://vgcollect.com/item/78152
also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense
https://vgcollect.com/item/270642
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Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/270641).
it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description
https://vgcollect.com/item/78152
also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense
https://vgcollect.com/item/270642
I've already addressed (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12668.msg207104.html#msg207104) how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a front cover USK rating.
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Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/270641).
it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description
https://vgcollect.com/item/78152
also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense
https://vgcollect.com/item/270642
I've already addressed (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12668.msg207104.html#msg207104) how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a USK rating.
change the barcode than cause all the other info for said listing is for the english version.
Most people who added the game to the collection have an english version only a fraction has german
it's the most popular listing for this game
the listing has barely an german info in it aside from the barcode and front pic that was altered
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I've already addressed (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12668.msg207104.html#msg207104) how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a USK rating.
change the barcode than cause all the other info for said listing is for the english version.
Most people who added the game to the collection have an english version only a fraction has german
it's the most popular listing for this game
the listing has barely an german info in it aside from the barcode and front pic that was altered
Right now, all of the entry information is correct. Like with many regional variants across Europe, there is a lot of overlap information; barcode information almost always varies, though.
As you can see from the 78152's History tab, I've had no part in editing the entry. So, I can't attest as to why certain decisions were made in the past, but I'm certainly not changing them now. As always, how many members are connected to an entry is irrelevant as we should prioritize the entry's original intent. If members neglected to see any conflicting errors in the entry before adding it to their accounts, then that is their mistake, albeit a mistake that's easy to correct now as a number of variant entries have since been submitted.
If you're wanting to add what I'm assuming is the item you own to your collection, then the entry you're looking for is 270641 (https://vgcollect.com/item/270641).
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With regards to Pele's Soccer for the Atari 2600 [EU], https://vgcollect.com/item/66478
The release date for the title is listed as 1981, so:
The front box image is correct
The back box image appears to be the 1987 version, https://vgcollect.com/item/275173
The cartridge image appears to be the 1988 version, but I can't tell for sure. If it is indeed the 1988 cartridge then this image should be moved, if possible, to the 1988 version entry here https://vgcollect.com/item/275175 because the 1988 cartridge is nearly impossible to find. I do not have this image in my files, Atarimania doesn't have the image, and I can't find it anywhere.
I can edit the 1981 entry with the appropriate 1981 images, but I wanted to inform the mods of these issues prior to making the edits.
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Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/270641).
it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description
https://vgcollect.com/item/78152
also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense
https://vgcollect.com/item/270642
I've already addressed (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12668.msg207104.html#msg207104) how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a USK rating.
change the barcode than cause all the other info for said listing is for the english version.
Most people who added the game to the collection have an english version only a fraction has german
it's the most popular listing for this game
the listing has barely an german info in it aside from the barcode and front pic that was altered
I cannot attest for why the barcode was initially changed however I have provided the matching front image for the specific listing based on the barcode provided (Example listing: www.ebay.de/itm/296729807963 ).
In terms of what takes precedent, the barcode is what is relied on for what version a item is as its the clearest indication of what an item is meant to actually be. In many instances there is a mish-mash of information which needs to be corrected to a specific version.
I have not denied any image relating to these items and welcome anyone to add improved images where possible. A lot of the items listed can be difficult to gather great images of due to either their rarity or simply good images not being available at the time. Frequently I revisit items I have created when I become aware of a better image available to me.
Completely understand your point regarding users possibly having the wrong item in their collection now due to the barcode change 2 years ago. Perhaps it would be better to of merged users to the relevant version before the barcode change however I have no context as to what caused the changed and wasn't even a moderator at that point of time. *Edit* Possibly the back image?
Also, I get that it can be frustrating when an edit gets denied but please don't take it personally in any way. Frankly, you provide some of the better edits on the website. Having high quality Edits and scans submitted. It was great having edits come through for the guide section for example. The odd few edits may inevitably get denied (I was posting on the error thread almost every week so I know how that feels haha) but its just something that can happen with these niche items.
However, this is not to say that the entry names for this group of items are ideal. From my observation, 78152 and 270645 should have two entry name descriptors (e.g. (card text left / Achtung!) and (card text left / Deutsche Version)) while clarifying in the Description field that they were released in Germany. 270641 (and 270642 (https://vgcollect.com/item/270642)) should omit the TLD. I will let nathan776 handle those actions, though.
I agree that the name changes would be more ideal and will change them momentarily.
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With regards to Pele's Soccer for the Atari 2600 [EU], https://vgcollect.com/item/66478
The release date for the title is listed as 1981, so:
The front box image is correct
The back box image appears to be the 1987 version, https://vgcollect.com/item/275173
The cartridge image appears to be the 1988 version, but I can't tell for sure. If it is indeed the 1988 cartridge then this image should be moved, if possible, to the 1988 version entry here https://vgcollect.com/item/275175 because the 1988 cartridge is nearly impossible to find. I do not have this image in my files, Atarimania doesn't have the image, and I can't find it anywhere.
I can edit the 1981 entry with the appropriate 1981 images, but I wanted to inform the mods of these issues prior to making the edits.
Based on the original Front and Cart art images, 66478 has been updated to Pelé's Soccer (1988). 275175 has been merged into it.
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blank one - https://vgcollect.com/item/275262
blank one - https://vgcollect.com/item/275269
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Back art is original to the entry but the EAN added later was wrong. I changed the barcode to what was on the back art. The entry is for an English version as it comes with the English carts (E prefix) instead of the German cards (G prefix).
After evaluating the back image, I have come to the conclusion that the image is a composite. It sources from a warez forum that originally hosted the images on Imageshack, but all of the links are broken. It appears to be a combination of the English back but with the German barcode. Since the entry was originally believed to be the English version, the barcode should be changed back to the one somnlegacy used: 4012927023570
Swapped the entries.
- made 78152 the UK version
- made 270641 the German version
As a side note: Grok won't try to read the barcode because it is too small, but Gemini did try and came up with this: 096279045878
Unless I'm overlooking some small detail, then I see no reason for that artwork to be rejected if it's submitted to the correct entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/270641).
it's to this listing which currently has incorrect german front cover art. while the rest is english including backside and field description
https://vgcollect.com/item/78152
also the supposed barcode for a right english version already has a seperate entry with different barcode so mine being rejected makes no sense
https://vgcollect.com/item/270642
I've already addressed (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12668.msg207104.html#msg207104) how the above artwork is incorrect for 78152. So, if it's submitted to that entry, it will be rejected a third time. All items with barcode 4012927024300 feature the "Achtung!" label and a USK rating.
change the barcode than cause all the other info for said listing is for the english version.
Most people who added the game to the collection have an english version only a fraction has german
it's the most popular listing for this game
the listing has barely an german info in it aside from the barcode and front pic that was altered
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Alright I need to know why my edit for Ishido: The Way of Stones was rejected for Genesis.
I understand there's a character mark above the o so it should pronounced as ou
But on the box it is not spelled Ishidou- anyone trying to search this game is going to spell it as Ishido as that is clearly what is shown on the box.
I had to manually search Genesis to find the game as I had no idea I needed to search Ishidou and not Ishido. That seems flawed.
Also- all the other versions of this game in the database is Ishidō- the gameboy version is not spelled Ishidou- it's spelled Ishidō. It should not be different.
Can we compromise and edit it to be Ishidō?
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I resubmitted the edits for both the genesis and lynx versions to Ishidō
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Can we compromise and edit it to be Ishidō?
When I rejected your submissions, I was under the impression that we prioritized transliteration over transcription, but this seems to be only relevant regarding JP items. So, NA and EU entry pages have been reverted back to Ishidō, whereas JP entry pages maintain Ishidou.
Several of the entries were previously titled Ishidō: The Way of the Stones which is incorrect, so there should be greater uniformity now.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/181595
Got two rejected edits related to text.
As mentioned, the text that's listed on the box_text value is on the front cover (https://i.imgur.com/96BahCe.jpeg), not on the back (https://i.imgur.com/ejHCvir.jpeg).
Game bought today, brand-new.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/181595
Got two rejected edits related to text.
As mentioned, the text that's listed on the box_text value is on the front cover (https://i.imgur.com/96BahCe.jpeg), not on the back (https://i.imgur.com/ejHCvir.jpeg).
Game bought today, brand-new.
As mentioned in the rejection comments, your submission was rejected due to trying to remove valid Box Text field information and transferring it to the Description field where it's not needed. If you re-submit the information again while maintaining what's already present, it will be approved.
The Box Text field isn't exclusive to back cover text, though it's generally unwarranted to add in many cases. The existing text mentioning compatibility is relevant and useful as well as being information that's exclusive to that item variant (see 275326 (https://vgcollect.com/item/275326).)
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As mentioned in the rejection comments, your submission was rejected due to trying to remove valid Box Text field information and transferring it to the Description field where it's not needed. If you re-submit the information again while maintaining what's already present, it will be approved.
Done, including the all caps for the text already present.
Also, isn't the item number (78550206US in this case) supposed to only be filled in case that it's present on the spine? This game doesn't have that number on the spine, but on the top right of the barcode area.
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As mentioned in the rejection comments, your submission was rejected due to trying to remove valid Box Text field information and transferring it to the Description field where it's not needed. If you re-submit the information again while maintaining what's already present, it will be approved.
Done, including the all caps for the text already present.
Also, isn't the item number (78550206US in this case) supposed to only be filled in case that it's present on the spine? This game doesn't have that number on the spine, but on the top right of the barcode area.
Approved.
As for the Item Number field, the spine number is prioritized. However, item number locations are not uniform, so there is an order of hierarchy that's outlined in the style guide. So, for instance, if neither a spine number nor back number is present but a front number is, then that front number information should be submitted to the dedicated field.
Items with multiple numbers
The priority list of which number is added to the item number field in the DB is:
1. The spine or side
2. The back
3. The front
4. The media
5. Hidden or only on sealed samples
Additional item numbers should be put into the description.
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As for the Item Number field, the spine number is prioritized. However, item number locations are not uniform, so there is an order of hierarchy that's outlined in the style guide. So, if neither a spine number nor back number is present but a front number is, then that front number information should be submitted to the dedicated field.
Oh, okay. In that case, I'll fix the entries for the other XB1 games I have around here.
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Can we compromise and edit it to be Ishidō?
When I rejected your submissions, I was under the impression that we prioritized transliteration over transcription, but this seems to be only relevant regarding JP items. So, NA and EU entry pages have been reverted back to Ishidō, whereas JP entry pages maintain Ishidou.
Several of the entries were previously titled Ishidō: The Way of the Stones which is incorrect, so there should be greater uniformity now.
Thanks for updating! The uniformity is appreciated.
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Entry https://www.vgcollect.com/item/64855 for River Raid A2600 [EU] has the cartridge image for the [NA] version as designated by the item number AX-020 in the image. The combined front box image and cartridge image represents the [NA] release. The closest [EU] counterpart that has a red Activision label is https://vgcollect.com/item/275457 with item #EAX-020, but this item has a multi-lingual box. Lack of details in the original entry makes it difficult to identify the correct [EU] entry for which it corresponds.
(https://i.imgur.com/gTxdyPs.gif)
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Entry https://www.vgcollect.com/item/64855 for River Raid A2600 [EU] has the cartridge image for the [NA] version as designated by the item number AX-020 in the image. The combined front box image and cartridge image represents the [NA] release. The closest [EU] counterpart that has a red Activision label is https://vgcollect.com/item/275457 with item #EAX-020, but this item has a multi-lingual box. Lack of details in the original entry makes it difficult to identify the correct [EU] entry for which it corresponds.
Based on front entry art, 275459 (https://vgcollect.com/item/275459) has been merged into 64855.
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blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/275668
(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
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blank https://vgcollect.com/item/275668
yea :'( happened to me yesterday when trying to submit a new item.
This time I was using my phone browser and tried to entry all possible data at once :o maybe too much ?
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yea :'( happened to me yesterday when trying to submit a new item.
This time I was using my phone browser and tried to entry all possible data at once :o maybe too much ?
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Since I had just submitted one as well I just figured it was me :). I end up with blank ones all the time, usually because of the image files get hung up during the upload due to an internet hiccup.
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I cannot attest for why the barcode was initially changed however I have provided the matching front image for the specific listing based on the barcode provided (Example listing: www.ebay.de/itm/296729807963 ).
In terms of what takes precedent, the barcode is what is relied on for what version a item is as its the clearest indication of what an item is meant to actually be. In many instances there is a mish-mash of information which needs to be corrected to a specific version.
I have not denied any image relating to these items and welcome anyone to add improved images where possible. A lot of the items listed can be difficult to gather great images of due to either their rarity or simply good images not being available at the time. Frequently I revisit items I have created when I become aware of a better image available to me.
Completely understand your point regarding users possibly having the wrong item in their collection now due to the barcode change 2 years ago. Perhaps it would be better to of merged users to the relevant version before the barcode change however I have no context as to what caused the changed and wasn't even a moderator at that point of time. *Edit* Possibly the back image?
Also, I get that it can be frustrating when an edit gets denied but please don't take it personally in any way. Frankly, you provide some of the better edits on the website. Having high quality Edits and scans submitted. It was great having edits come through for the guide section for example. The odd few edits may inevitably get denied (I was posting on the error thread almost every week so I know how that feels haha) but its just something that can happen with these niche items.
Back art is original to the entry but the EAN added later was wrong. I changed the barcode to what was on the back art. The entry is for an English version as it comes with the English carts (E prefix) instead of the German cards (G prefix).
After evaluating the back image, I have come to the conclusion that the image is a composite. It sources from a warez forum that originally hosted the images on Imageshack, but all of the links are broken. It appears to be a combination of the English back but with the German barcode. Since the entry was originally believed to be the English version, the barcode should be changed back to the one somnlegacy used: 4012927023570
Swapped the entries.
- made 78152 the UK version
- made 270641 the German version
As a side note: Grok won't try to read the barcode because it is too small, but Gemini did try and came up with this: 096279045878
noticed this way later. but this is very appreciated. Good stuff
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Hi folks, I've been trying to get edits done for these two releases:
https://vgcollect.com/item/213562
https://vgcollect.com/item/115374
The artwork is incorrect for them, they should be switched.
You can see the correct artwork here, which I submitted but was rejected:
https://psxdatacenter.com/psx2/images2/covers/SLPS-25042/
https://psxdatacenter.com/psx2/images2/covers/SLPS-25043/
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Hi folks, I've been trying to get edits done for these two releases:
https://vgcollect.com/item/213562
https://vgcollect.com/item/115374
The artwork is incorrect for them, they should be switched.
You can see the correct artwork here, which I submitted but was rejected:
https://psxdatacenter.com/psx2/images2/covers/SLPS-25042/
https://psxdatacenter.com/psx2/images2/covers/SLPS-25043/
Of course, GameFAQs has this information incorrect (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/468546-maken-shao/boxes/22295), which is the source I just so happened to reference when previously coming across these items.
Instead of trying to swap every piece of entry information, only update the Name and Item Number fields (i.e. (SLPS-25042) to (SLPS-25043) and vice-versa.) Then your edits will be approved.
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Of course, GameFAQs has this information incorrect (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/468546-maken-shao/boxes/22295), which is the source I just so happened to reference when previously coming across these items.
Instead of trying to swap every piece of entry information, only update the Name fields (i.e. (SLPS-25042) to (SLPS-25043) and vice-versa.) Then your edits will be approved.
Done!
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Of course, GameFAQs has this information incorrect (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/468546-maken-shao/boxes/22295), which is the source I just so happened to reference when previously coming across these items.
Instead of trying to swap every piece of entry information, only update the Name fields (i.e. (SLPS-25042) to (SLPS-25043) and vice-versa.) Then your edits will be approved.
Done!
Appreciate the repeated efforts in reporting these errors. Your edits have been approved.
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I found this faulty listing, that should probably be removed:
https://vgcollect.com/item/140105
This is the correct listing: https://vgcollect.com/item/26316
(https://i.imgur.com/gTxdyPs.gif)
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I found this faulty listing, that should probably be removed: https://vgcollect.com/item/140105
This is the correct listing: https://vgcollect.com/item/26316
In the future, please report duplicate listings to the dedicated Duplicate Listings topic.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12669.0.html
26316 has also been updated to as a result of variant entry 276110 (https://vgcollect.com/item/276110).
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I just now noticed this one
https://vgcollect.com/item/263967
back then I am sure to have amde an error since I noticed an psn game while i dont list those so I checked and found i accidently created this one eaperently in the past so this one can be deleted
(https://i.imgur.com/gTxdyPs.gif)
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https://vgcollect.com/item/115089
Game, on credits, indicates Ubisoft Montreal as developers. (https://i.imgur.com/JjxqY0b.jpeg)
(just took that screenshot)
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https://vgcollect.com/item/115089
Game, on credits, indicates Ubisoft Montreal as developers. (https://i.imgur.com/JjxqY0b.jpeg)
(just took that screenshot)
MobyGames is often our site's immediate source of reference when confirming developer and publisher information for most games.
But it's an imperfect system with plenty of discrepancies even from the immediate source (e.g. game data and game packaging.) Third-party source MobyGames credits (https://www.mobygames.com/game/81972/watch_dogs-2/releases/xbox-one/) Ubisoft Entertainment as the developer, as was mentioned in the Admin Comments upon the edit rejection. Meanwhile, the back cover (https://cdn.mobygames.com/covers/3030048-watch_dogs-2-xbox-one-back-cover.jpg) credits Ubisoft as the developer, whereas in-game credits list Ubisoft Montreal.
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MobyGames is often our site's immediate source of reference when confirming developer and publisher information for most games.
But it's an imperfect system with plenty of discrepancies even from the immediate source (e.g. game data and game packaging.) Third-party source MobyGames credits (https://www.mobygames.com/game/81972/watch_dogs-2/releases/xbox-one/) Ubisoft Entertainment as the developer, as was mentioned in the Admin Comments upon the edit rejection. Meanwhile, the back cover (https://cdn.mobygames.com/covers/3030048-watch_dogs-2-xbox-one-back-cover.jpg) credits Ubisoft as the developer, whereas in-game credits list Ubisoft Montreal.
So, we stick to MobyGames (third party website), corporate entity (back of box) or credit roll (in-game credits)?
EDIT: Decided to re-check all my Ubi games, and they all have the same text, even in cases where it's widely known they were developed by other studios, like Obsidian in https://vgcollect.com/item/163264 (Fresh scan of the back cover) (https://i.imgur.com/DkqyyQ0.jpeg)
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MobyGames is often our site's immediate source of reference when confirming developer and publisher information for most games.
But it's an imperfect system with plenty of discrepancies even from the immediate source (e.g. game data and game packaging.) Third-party source MobyGames credits (https://www.mobygames.com/game/81972/watch_dogs-2/releases/xbox-one/) Ubisoft Entertainment as the developer, as was mentioned in the Admin Comments upon the edit rejection. Meanwhile, the back cover (https://cdn.mobygames.com/covers/3030048-watch_dogs-2-xbox-one-back-cover.jpg) credits Ubisoft as the developer, whereas in-game credits list Ubisoft Montreal.
So, we stick to MobyGames (third party website), corporate entity (back of box) or credit roll (in-game credits)?
From the Developer and Publisher post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178153.html#msg178153) of the style guide which also references the Item Images post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg177804.html#msg177804):
Developer and Publisher
Developer and Publisher fields are created for game releases. The content that goes into these fields can be found on other websites, such as those listed above for "using images from other sources."
using images from other sources
(These are primary examples, not exhaustive)
GameFAQs (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/)
MobyGames (https://www.mobygames.com/)
PlayStation Datacenter (https://psxdatacenter.com/)
SegaRetro (https://segaretro.org/)
I'll also mention that in-game credits will be the last source we should ever take to confirm developer and publisher data. We should not expect anyone—members and staff alike—to go through that kind of effort, and especially so when many of us do not own the items or hardware to play them in question.
Here is a conversation (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,5820.msg201652.html#msg201652) from last year about the topic that you may find worth reading. Note that the final post of mine which posed a question was never addressed.
EDIT: Decided to re-check all my Ubi games, and they all have the same text, even in cases where it's widely known they were developed by other studios, like Obsidian in https://vgcollect.com/item/163264 (Fresh scan of the back cover) (https://i.imgur.com/DkqyyQ0.jpeg)
This is a common practice with physically published games. Larger companies will often credit themselves as developer or publisher when they own smaller studios.
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Here is a conversation (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,5820.msg201652.html#msg201652) from last year about the topic that you may find worth reading. Note that the final post of mine which posed a question was never addressed.
So, "Stick to third party website, even when proven wrong by actual credits". Got it.
(I'm not trying to be dense, but you're the DB Mod. Whatever you say, it goes.)
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Here is a conversation (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,5820.msg201652.html#msg201652) from last year about the topic that you may find worth reading. Note that the final post of mine which posed a question was never addressed.
(I'm not trying to be dense, but you're the DB Mod. Whatever you say, it goes.)
Actually, no. What I'm doing is directing you to specific site rules and guidelines which I had no involvement in forming. My job is merely to enforce them.
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Here is a conversation (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,5820.msg201652.html#msg201652) from last year about the topic that you may find worth reading. Note that the final post of mine which posed a question was never addressed.
So, "Stick to third party website, even when proven wrong by actual credits". Got it.
(I'm not trying to be dense, but you're the DB Mod. Whatever you say, it goes.)
The guy is a robot, tough one to crack to alter anything. Any guidelines or rules that exist in this database correct or incorrect. When you try to go against those.
Dhaabi goes ''beep beep boop, Must follow protocol at all costs''
(https://media.tenor.com/s7t-ZCtYSjMAAAAM/robot-dance.gif)
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* cries in french-boxed pal games having you guess the combination of [FR] [BE] [LU] [MC] [SW] tags from X years old incomplete and/or incorrect sources *
[…]
* blissfully cuts through this Gordian knot and considers [FR] is a language tag, not a country one *
(may also apply to [DE] for Germany, Austria, Luxembourg and Switzerland, possibly Belgium and Italy too, to [NL] for Netherlands and Belgium, etc.)
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* cries in french-boxed pal games having you guess the combination of [FR] [BE] [LU] [MC] [SW] tags from X years old incomplete and/or incorrect sources *
[…]
* blissfully cuts through this Gordian knot and considers [FR] is a language tag, not a country one *
(may also apply to [DE] for Germany, Austria, Luxembourg and Switzerland, possibly Belgium and Italy too, to [NL] for Netherlands and Belgium, etc.)
I feel your pain, I feel your pain
Had some battles with Dhaabi about that kinda shit. Those codes are bad and incorrect,
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(may also apply to [DE] for Germany, Austria, Luxembourg and Switzerland, possibly Belgium and Italy too, to [NL] for Netherlands and Belgium, etc.)
Could be worse. Could be Latin American games. I just end up marking anything ESRB, in Spanish and pre-(27 May 2021) as [MX], cause the long list would be [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][EC][SV][GT][HN][MX][NI][PA][PE][VE]… cause those are all the countries listed in the game box (https://vgcollect.com/item/165230). And after that date, it would be [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][DO][EC][SV][GT][HN][NI][PA][PY][PE][UY] (https://vgcollect.com/item/275327). There's a reason why the distributor listings are marked as [LATAM] in their own files.
I gave up on that fight years ago. Everything's Mexican unless it's obviously not (Spanish, ESRB after 27 May 2021).
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The guy is a robot, tough one to crack to alter anything. Any guidelines or rules that exist in this database correct or incorrect. When you try to go against those.
Dhaabi goes ''beep beep boop, Must follow protocol at all costs''
Beep boop. Not one individual has authority to create or alter rules. Generally, community discussion and a democratic vote determine what sort of amendments are added as guidelines. If you disagree with anything or have suggestions, then refer below to the two topics.
Advanced Style Guide update and feedback thread (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10891.0.html)
Style Guide Update Poll Idea Submissions (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html)
Unless someone is needing to ask why a specific edit submission was rejected or is wanting to report an entry error, then refer to those two topics if you have alternatives to propose. Boop. Boop beep boop boop beep.
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Could be worse. Could be Latin American games. I just end up marking anything ESRB, in Spanish and pre-(27 May 2021) as [MX], cause the long list would be [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][EC][SV][GT][HN][MX][NI][PA][PE][VE]… cause those are all the countries listed in the game box (https://vgcollect.com/item/165230). And after that date, it would be [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][DO][EC][SV][GT][HN][NI][PA][PY][PE][UY] (https://vgcollect.com/item/275327). There's a reason why the distributor listings are marked as [LATAM] in their own files.
I gave up on that fight years ago. Everything's Mexican unless it's obviously not (Spanish, ESRB after 27 May 2021).
While the two items you've presented may have been released in those countries, figuring that information is not as straightforward as you're employing the practice. Items vary from one country to the next, and especially when regional distribution and import labels exist (and have been known to be present in some of those countries you've listed) which means, for the purposes of our site, they would be two separate items.
Also, licensing text seems to matter little in providing useful information for us. Take, for instance, these various regional copies of Resident Evil 4 (https://imgur.com/a/1B6l0D6) for PlayStation 4. Based on language text, publisher item numbers, and even regional rating systems, we know that they're specific to individual countries. However, there is a lot of overlap in which regions each specific item is "licensed" for sale in, including Russia. Meanwhile, Russia has its own regional item that's clearly indicated.
There isn't any requirement for TLDs to be exhaustive when attaching them to entries. We'd rather them be researched and utilized correctly than otherwise. Entries can always be updated to add more information as it's discovered and confirmed.
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While the two items you've presented may have been released in those countries, figuring that information is not as straightforward as you're employing the practice. Items vary from one country to the next, and especially when regional distribution and import labels exist (and have been known to be present in some of those countries you've listed) which means, for the purposes of our site, they would be two separate items.
Also, licensing text seems to matter little in providing useful information for us. Take, for instance, these various regional copies of Resident Evil 4 (https://imgur.com/a/1B6l0D6) for PlayStation 4. Based on language text, publisher item numbers, and even regional rating systems, we know that they're specific to individual countries. However, there is a lot of overlap in which regions each specific item is "licensed" for sale in, including Russia. Meanwhile, Russia has its own regional item that's clearly indicated.
There isn't any requirement for TLDs to be exhaustive when attaching them to entries. We'd rather them be researched and utilized correctly than otherwise. Entries can always be updated to add more information as it's discovered and confirmed.
Whereas using ISO 639 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ISO_639_language_codes) would be easy (easier?), straightforward, explicit as using only intrisic information (available on the item itself), and reduce significantly the length of such entries, simplifying [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][EC][SV][GT][HN][MX][NI][PA][PE][VE][…] with [ES], while actually making this sole information both correct and complete in what distinguish such items from the “default” ones (generally US for NA, UK for Europe, etc.) of the same region.
Similarly [EN] instead of [US][CA] / [UK][IR][MT][…]
Can that actually be discussed? If so, how and where?
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Whereas using ISO 639 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ISO_639_language_codes) would be easy (easier?), straightforward, explicit as using only intrisic information (available on the item itself), and reduce significantly the length of such entries, simplifying [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][EC][SV][GT][HN][MX][NI][PA][PE][VE][…] with [ES], while actually making this sole information both correct and complete in what distinguish such items from the “default” ones (generally US for NA, UK for Europe, etc.) of the same region.
Similarly [EN] instead of [US][CA] / [UK][IR][MT][…]
Can that actually be discussed? If so, how and where?
Again, here are specific topics which I proposed yesterday.
Not one individual has authority to create or alter rules. Generally, community discussion and a democratic vote determine what sort of amendments are added as guidelines. If you disagree with anything or have suggestions, then refer below to the two topics.
Advanced Style Guide update and feedback thread (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10891.0.html)
Style Guide Update Poll Idea Submissions (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html)
Unless someone is needing to ask why a specific edit submission was rejected or is wanting to report an entry error, then refer to those two topics if you have alternatives to propose.
But let me also reference the very same conversation we've already had about this very subject after you've raised concerns, in this very forum topic, during this very year.
- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
There is no need to rehash this conversation, we already have the format for identifying language. It is the standard ISO-639+ISO-3166 locale combination. We just do not use it on the site anywhere as it does not actually help in regards to making the site easier to use. They would be used if we were to attach language information to an entry, either privately (as a var) or publicly likely would be a hidden value that would load a different resource like an image to represent the value. This particular format would allow separation between locales, such as en-US vs en-GB, or for French there are fr-CA, fr-FR, fr-BE or fr-CH...
Use of TLD is not ideal and is only required based on how the site is designed.
Also, current categories or how they appear are also due to the original design of the site which has not changed. Remember that the site was not originally designed for the amount of items we currently cover. A different design to the site could eliminate the way categories are viewed and could also eliminate the usage of TLDs (or even descriptors) in item titles. Until something like that happens, we will continue to use the TLD and descriptors the way we do now.
Keep in mind that there are a lot of database entry rules that only exist due to the limitations of the site. Instead of us side-stepping to another imperfect system, we should wait until development updates take place.
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Re original conversation for Watch Dogs 2 on Xbone
https://vgcollect.com/item/115089
This item exists in a physical games category, so the entry is for the physical product. Publisher should be reflective of that. The game itself (the game data) is not part of the entry and any information about the game data would be put into description. The game data also has an entry, which is here: https://vgcollect.com/item/202909
So for this instance, the physical game entry would have Ubisoft but the game data entry would have Ubisoft Montreal. It looks like those entries already are like this.
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Whereas using ISO 639 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ISO_639_language_codes) would be easy (easier?), straightforward, explicit as using only intrisic information (available on the item itself), and reduce significantly the length of such entries, simplifying [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][EC][SV][GT][HN][MX][NI][PA][PE][VE][…] with [ES], while actually making this sole information both correct and complete in what distinguish such items from the “default” ones (generally US for NA, UK for Europe, etc.) of the same region.
Coming from a Spanish speaking country, it can't be realistically applied. [ES] refers specifically to Spain (es-ES), and even thought they're mostly interchangeable, games that come in Castilian Spanish (es-ES) tend not to do well in Latin America (es-419), and vice-versa. Metal Gear Solid was never oficially released in Spanish for Latin America, because the only dub was made for Spain, with a very thick Castilian accent, while the Spanish release of Halo 2, with a very Mexican dub, turned into a laughing stock in Spain.
There's also the big line of code of countries in ISO 639, but that can't be realistically replaced for the UN M49 codes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_M49), because Mexico and Brazil use different rating standards.
Spanish-speaking region releases are a big pain to adapt to the way the website works now.
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The A2600 [NA] entry for Labyrinth, https://vgcollect.com/item/102574, has the following issues:
1.) the cartridge image is for the originally discovered 1982 prototype on cassette. Only the cassette was discovered. No box or manual was made. Labyrinth was ultimately released as Escape from the Mindmaster, https://vgcollect.com/item/17870
2.) the front box image is for the CD reproduction released at the Austin Gaming Expo on July 26, 2003.
A discussion of its discovery and reproduction release can be found here: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/30154-starpath-labyrinth-prototype-revealed/
The thread also provides pictures of the original discovery and the new reproduction packaging.
I would like to add that AtariProtos.com also has a picture of a Labyrinth prototype on a clear cassette which is different than the one discussed/discovered in the AtariAge thread. Since there is no discussion on its discovery, the origin of this version is unclear. A picture of this version can be found here, https://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/escape/labyrinth.htm
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The A2600 [NA] entry for Labyrinth
Front art has been removed and existing cartridge art has been transferred to the front art slot.
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New Value: mid/late 1980s Activison rerelease cartridge item number: EIX-004-04I manual item number: I-004-03
Reason: Action Not Allowed. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: Re-submit without vague release date information.
no I will not do that - I have something better to do than track all my changes to pick stuff up which was recarded because some minor detail doen't fit your needs. If you think something needs to be improved please do it youself.
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New Value: mid/late 1980s Activison rerelease cartridge item number: EIX-004-04I manual item number: I-004-03
Reason: Action Not Allowed. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: Re-submit without vague release date information.
no I will not do that - I have something better to do than track all my changes to pick stuff up which was recarded because some minor detail doen't fit your needs. If you think something needs to be improved please do it youself.
There are dedicated Release Date fields, so any information relating to it should be submitted there; if it's unknown, then leave it blank.. Information pertaining to any dedicated field shouldn't be repeated in the Description field unless there is a specific reason to clarify it, such as with variant releases. Submitting unconfirmed information such as when something may have been released shouldn't ever be done.
Also, another point worth mentioning is that, while edit rejections are chiefly done to prevent incorrect data from being submitted, they also exist as a means to better explain rules so members—especially ones who regularly contribute data like yourself—can learn from mistakes.
I will not be making any changes to the entry.
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https://vgcollect.com/item/266078 (https://vgcollect.com/item/266078)
Editted the pegi and front because those we not right. Pegi is 12.
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ESRB E10+-M rating is not available for selection.
https://vgcollect.com/item/232256
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My edit of the release month (August) for the following item was rejected:
https://vgcollect.com/item/8519
Stating that this information was nowhere to be found at the usual sources like segaretro etc....
I found this information on page 33 of the german Sega Magazin, Issue september '95, stating "Release: August". It's found at the bottom right corner of the page in a red Info/ranking box.
Pls check for yourself:
https://segaretro.org/index.php?title=File:SegaMagazin_DE_22.pdf&page=33
Hope this works out
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ESRB E10+-M rating is not available for selection.
https://vgcollect.com/item/232256
ESRB - E10+-M (US / Canada) has been added to the Ratings drop-down menu, although a corresponding image has not been added yet.
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My edit of the release month (August) for the following item was rejected:
https://vgcollect.com/item/8519
Appreciate the clarification. If the edit information is submitted once more, it will be approved.
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Hello again,
my release-date edit for the following item was rejected:
https://vgcollect.com/item/8702
referring to segaretros UK-release date May 94 (EU release date 1995)
... according to german Sega Magazin, Issue September 1995, Page 84, the release (at least in Germany) was July that year:
https://segaretro.org/index.php?title=File:SegaMagazin_DE_22.pdf&page=84
pls check this yourself and tell me what entry might be correct here - Thanks a ton!! 8)
Greetings
Bizz
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my release-date edit for the following item was rejected:
https://vgcollect.com/item/8702
referring to segaretros UK-release date May 94 (EU release date 1995)
... according to german Sega Magazin, Issue September 1995, Page 84, the release (at least in Germany) was July that year:
https://segaretro.org/index.php?title=File:SegaMagazin_DE_22.pdf&page=84
Is there any reason to believe there is a regional variant specific to Germany for Wizard Pinball which this information is about? MobyGames lists 1995 (https://www.mobygames.com/game/71415/wizard-pinball/releases/) for a UK release date, as well. So unless there isn't a German-specific release and instead only a broad European release, then July 1995 should be fine to submit. If we can't confirm the possibility of other regional variant items including from Germany, then there's nothing wrong with leaving the Release Date fields blank.
I went to the source (https://retrocdn.net/images/6/65/SegaPro_UK_32.pdf) that Sega Retro's May 1994 information (https://segaretro.org/Wizard_Pinball) cites, but I can find no actual information validating it where it's supposed to be found on page 10.
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my release-date edit for the following item was rejected:
https://vgcollect.com/item/8702
referring to segaretros UK-release date May 94 (EU release date 1995)
... according to german Sega Magazin, Issue September 1995, Page 84, the release (at least in Germany) was July that year:
https://segaretro.org/index.php?title=File:SegaMagazin_DE_22.pdf&page=84
Is there any reason to believe there is a regional variant specific to Germany for Wizard Pinball which this information is about? MobyGames lists 1995 (https://www.mobygames.com/game/71415/wizard-pinball/releases/) for a UK release date, as well. So unless there isn't a German-specific release and instead only a broad European release, then July 1995 should be fine to submit. If we can't confirm the possibility of other regional variant items including from Germany, then there's nothing wrong with leaving the Release Date fields blank.
I went to the source (https://retrocdn.net/images/6/65/SegaPro_UK_32.pdf) that Sega Retro's May 1994 information (https://segaretro.org/Wizard_Pinball) cites, but I can find no actual information validating it where it's supposed to be found on page 10.
I don't actually know how Game Gear games were swept over europe back then, but I can't find any information on german-specific releases (of THIS game) in form of own packaging whatsoever, so ... I suggest that the version is the same (multilingual
EU packaging/manual). There's always the possibilty of altering release dates compared to the UK release due to commercial differences, but I interpret the data from the old german magazine as referring to specific availability on the german market. And July 1995 seems to be the only more precise info of release, that at least I can find anywhere since I only understand englisch and german...
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my release-date edit for the following item was rejected:
https://vgcollect.com/item/8702
referring to segaretros UK-release date May 94 (EU release date 1995)
... according to german Sega Magazin, Issue September 1995, Page 84, the release (at least in Germany) was July that year:
https://segaretro.org/index.php?title=File:SegaMagazin_DE_22.pdf&page=84
Is there any reason to believe there is a regional variant specific to Germany for Wizard Pinball which this information is about? MobyGames lists 1995 (https://www.mobygames.com/game/71415/wizard-pinball/releases/) for a UK release date, as well. So unless there isn't a German-specific release and instead only a broad European release, then July 1995 should be fine to submit. If we can't confirm the possibility of other regional variant items including from Germany, then there's nothing wrong with leaving the Release Date fields blank.
I went to the source (https://retrocdn.net/images/6/65/SegaPro_UK_32.pdf) that Sega Retro's May 1994 information (https://segaretro.org/Wizard_Pinball) cites, but I can find no actual information validating it where it's supposed to be found on page 10.
I don't actually know how Game Gear games were swept over europe back then, but I can't find any information on german-specific releases (of THIS game) in form of own packaging whatsoever, so ... I suggest that the version is the same (multilingual
EU packaging/manual). There's always the possibilty of altering release dates compared to the UK release due to commercial differences, but I interpret the data from the old german magazine as referring to specific availability on the german market. And July 1995 seems to be the only more precise info of release, that at least I can find anywhere since I only understand englisch and german...
For now, let's only submit 1995 information for the Year field. If better documentation and resources are discovered, the other fields can be revisited. It's always better to keep fields empty than submitting wrong information by mistake.
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Just noticed that this category's name has one too many L's in it:
It reads Phillips Odyssey when it should be Philips Odyssey, am I right?
https://vgcollect.com/browse/odyssey2brazil (https://vgcollect.com/browse/odyssey2brazil)
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Just noticed that this category's name has one too many L's in it:
It reads Phillips Odyssey when it should be Philips Odyssey, am I right?
https://vgcollect.com/browse/odyssey2brazil (https://vgcollect.com/browse/odyssey2brazil)
Fixed this name in both spots.
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created a double listing:
https://vgcollect.com/item/278629
please delete, there's already an item with SC 3000 platform.
Thanks
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The cartridge image for https://vgcollect.com/item/35614 is a reproduction and not the original. There is only one known official gamma-attack 1983 cartridge known and it was discovered by Antony DeNardo (aka Phantom on AtariAge) in 2008. The cartridge has a simple text label with the company name "Gammation" on the front and end label. A picture of the original 1983 cartridge can be found here:
https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-gamma-attack_20510.html
and in the owner's photo blog found here:
https://forums.atariage.com/gallery/image/2581-gamma-attack/
The picture in the current entry appears to be from the original programmer's (Robert L. Esken, Jr.) 2010 rerelease due to the fact that a new full size black and white label has been applied. The Atarimania database entry also has a picture of this repro cartridge, but states in the game description that it is a reproduction.
I can upload the correct image, but I wanted to notify the moderators of the reason for the edit before submitting the image.
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I can upload the correct image, but I wanted to notify the moderators of the reason for the edit before submitting the image.
35614 (https://vgcollect.com/item/35614) should be updated to reflect the bootleg copy. It's common for incorrect information to be submitted to text-based data fields, so we should prioritize the entry art in this instance. If the artwork for 278877 (https://vgcollect.com/item/278877) is the same as 35614, then I can merge those entries together. A new entry for the official 1983 cartridge can be submitted.
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I can upload the correct image, but I wanted to notify the moderators of the reason for the edit before submitting the image.
35614 (https://vgcollect.com/item/35614) should be updated to reflect the bootleg copy. It's common for incorrect information to be submitted to text-based data fields, so we should prioritize the entry art in this instance. If the artwork for 278877 (https://vgcollect.com/item/278877) is the same as 35614, then I can merge those entries together. A new entry for the official 1983 cartridge can be submitted.
I submitted https://vgcollect.com/item/278877 because I can neither confirm or deny that the artwork provided in https://vgcollect.com/item/35614 is from the 2010 rerelease by the programmer. The artwork I submitted for 278877 is taken directly from the programmers (Robert Esken, Jr. aka gamecrawler on AtariAge) rerelease announcement found here:
https://forums.atariage.com/topic/155634-gamma-attack-re-released-by-gammation-on-ebay/
As can be seen, both 35614 and 278877 seem to have the same label, but the cartridge designs aredifferent. The official 2010 rerelease cartridge has finger ridges whereas 35614 is a standard atari cartridge case. The sticking point is that it is well known that homebrewers recycle cartridges, but I can't confirm if all of the 2010 rerelease cartridges were sold with finger ridges or if they were a mish mash of different cartridge cases. Essentially the only way to know if 35614 and 278877 are the same would be to examine the back of the cartridges and see if they are signed and numbered.
For these reasons I tend to lean towards simply updating 35614 as a bootleg and I can submit a new entry for the 1983 original release with the correct artwork.
Update: Of course as soon as I hit the submit button, I find another post. The following post seems to confirm that the image in 35614 is indeed a bootleg:
https://forums.atariage.com/topic/291748-gamma-attack-whats-the-deal/
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I can upload the correct image, but I wanted to notify the moderators of the reason for the edit before submitting the image.
35614 (https://vgcollect.com/item/35614) should be updated to reflect the bootleg copy. It's common for incorrect information to be submitted to text-based data fields, so we should prioritize the entry art in this instance. If the artwork for 278877 (https://vgcollect.com/item/278877) is the same as 35614, then I can merge those entries together. A new entry for the official 1983 cartridge can be submitted.
I submitted https://vgcollect.com/item/278877 because I can neither confirm or deny that the artwork provided in https://vgcollect.com/item/35614 is from the 2010 rerelease by the programmer. The artwork I submitted for 278877 is taken directly from the programmers (Robert Esken, Jr. aka gamecrawler on AtariAge) rerelease announcement
I see now. If an entry for the official 1983 cartridge is submitted, then I would advise to use these entry names:
Gamma-Attack (text label)
Gamma-Attack (picture label) (https://vgcollect.com/item/35614)
Gamma-Attack (picture label / ridged cartridge) (https://vgcollect.com/item/278877)
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I can upload the correct image, but I wanted to notify the moderators of the reason for the edit before submitting the image.
35614 (https://vgcollect.com/item/35614) should be updated to reflect the bootleg copy. It's common for incorrect information to be submitted to text-based data fields, so we should prioritize the entry art in this instance. If the artwork for 278877 (https://vgcollect.com/item/278877) is the same as 35614, then I can merge those entries together. A new entry for the official 1983 cartridge can be submitted.
I submitted https://vgcollect.com/item/278877 because I can neither confirm or deny that the artwork provided in https://vgcollect.com/item/35614 is from the 2010 rerelease by the programmer. The artwork I submitted for 278877 is taken directly from the programmers (Robert Esken, Jr. aka gamecrawler on AtariAge) rerelease announcement
I see now. If an entry for the official 1983 cartridge is submitted, then I would advise to use these entry names:
Gamma-Attack (text label)
Gamma-Attack (picture label) (https://vgcollect.com/item/35614)
Gamma-Attack (picture label / ridged cartridge) (https://vgcollect.com/item/278877)
1983 release submitted and edits to remaining entries made using suggested naming convention.
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in a recent sumission the cover art I placed was rejected. If you look at this listing, you can see the outer box that I used for the Limited Edition is correct, and the listing I was updating is incorrect, as it shows the box that is supposed to be inside the other box (the one I submitted), if you are seeing other sealed CE box covers, it must be because they were removed from this outer box, hence this outer box that I submitted is the correct format the game came in. Make sense?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/186685002508?_skw=Touhou+Genso+Rondo%3A+Bullet+Ballet+Limited+Edition&epid=222280216&itmmeta=01JHP2VS77PBSRZ59CM926E6SQ&hash=item2b774b130c:g:mhYAAOSwXmFm5ODo&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKl1TL6oXgpXYt8gQXO8U4EjQB3PUFrkm0kU6XK4fkcqupZ7kyYKDgXV%2BeV4LQtTUysZpuW2xtULDuwsnTAmNCRVCfpTF2hudbTy%2FpDBtMEzArySHlS7W8xO7lnQOpa9ckR01N9E0OSApY3p0ZEV76a5Uzc9VQv5xvsOT%2FP4QvwX%2F04QA0wnmAvaFYs2kBWgGwclA0vVBWr0BtQobQ9%2B5KxuzbM%2B5PJeXn54ns8lDuFITNsAlfVOgkour41jv193uCVxECGqSdAZx3HZvF2S9Y3crB88S2qePoEcECwD2CxDNQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9yT78KNZQ
(https://www.ebay.com/itm/186685002508?_skw=Touhou+Genso+Rondo%3A+Bullet+Ballet+Limited+Edition&epid=222280216&itmmeta=01JHP2VS77PBSRZ59CM926E6SQ&hash=item2b774b130c:g:mhYAAOSwXmFm5ODo&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKl1TL6oXgpXYt8gQXO8U4EjQB3PUFrkm0kU6XK4fkcqupZ7kyYKDgXV%2BeV4LQtTUysZpuW2xtULDuwsnTAmNCRVCfpTF2hudbTy%2FpDBtMEzArySHlS7W8xO7lnQOpa9ckR01N9E0OSApY3p0ZEV76a5Uzc9VQv5xvsOT%2FP4QvwX%2F04QA0wnmAvaFYs2kBWgGwclA0vVBWr0BtQobQ9%2B5KxuzbM%2B5PJeXn54ns8lDuFITNsAlfVOgkour41jv193uCVxECGqSdAZx3HZvF2S9Y3crB88S2qePoEcECwD2CxDNQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9yT78KNZQ)
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in a recent sumission the cover art I placed was rejected. If you look at this listing, you can see the outer box that I used for the Limited Edition is correct, and the listing I was updating is incorrect, as it shows the box that is supposed to be inside the other box (the one I submitted), if you are seeing other sealed CE box covers, it must be because they were removed from this outer box, hence this outer box that I submitted is the correct format the game came in. Make sense?
It would be beneficial to know what image you submitted which was rejected. You can upload that image to Imgur (https://imgur.com/) and then post it here in img brackets. Also, submit the database entry, so we know which entry is being discussed. Multiple people respond to the edit queue, so providing all relevant information when posting should be done.
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I accidentally uploaded the wrong front box image for:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/279164
The original release version does not have the text "manufactured by" above the Coleco company name. The box image I uploaded is a reproduction box that was sold aftermarket and did not come with a game or manual. I can upload the correct image but due to the similarities between the boxes I wanted to notify the mods before submitting the edit.
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I accidentally uploaded the wrong front box image for:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/279164
The original release version does not have the text "manufactured by" above the Coleco company name. The box image I uploaded is a reproduction box that was sold aftermarket and did not come with a game or manual. I can upload the correct image but due to the similarities between the boxes I wanted to notify the mods before submitting the edit.
Noted. I've removed the previously submitted front art for now.
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see https://imgur.com/a/dGWlVg4 to confirm cover for https://vgcollect.com/item/105190 which is for Touhou Genso Rondo: Bullet Ballet (box) which is actually Touhou Genso Rondo: Bullet Ballet Limited Edition as seen here https://www.ebay.com/itm/186685002508?_skw=Touhou+Genso+Rondo%3A+Bullet+Ballet+Limited+Edition&epid=222280216&itmmeta=01JHP2VS77PBSRZ59CM926E6SQ&hash=item2b774b130c:g:mhYAAOSwXmFm5ODo&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKl1TL6oXgpXYt8gQXO8U4EjQB3PUFrkm0kU6XK4fkcqupZ7kyYKDgXV%2BeV4LQtTUysZpuW2xtULDuwsnTAmNCRVCfpTF2hudbTy%2FpDBtMEzArySHlS7W8xO7lnQOpa9ckR01N9E0OSApY3p0ZEV76a5Uzc9VQv5xvsOT%2FP4QvwX%2F04QA0wnmAvaFYs2kBWgGwclA0vVBWr0BtQobQ9%2B5KxuzbM%2B5PJeXn54ns8lDuFITNsAlfVOgkour41jv193uCVxECGqSdAZx3HZvF2S9Y3crB88S2qePoEcECwD2CxDNQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9yT78KNZQ
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I have noticed that the publisher's name (5718) for https://www.vgcollect.com/item/279333 has become truncated. The publisher's correct name is Marc Oberhäuser, but for some reason it is now showing as March Oberh. If I recall, this name used to be correct in the database. Is this only visible only on my end or is this an error in the database entry? This error also appears in other entries that have this publisher.
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I have noticed that the publisher's name (5718) for https://www.vgcollect.com/item/279333 has become truncated. The publisher's correct name is Marc Oberhäuser, but for some reason it is now showing as March Oberh. If I recall, this name used to be correct in the database. Is this only visible only on my end or is this an error in the database entry? This error also appears in other entries that have this publisher.
See this conversation (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,5820.msg207685.html#msg207685) from the Developer/Publisher Requests topic. This new issue has not had any action taken since being introduced.
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The A2600[NA] entry for Sea Monster, https://www.vgcollect.com/item/49687, has the incorrect box images, which are in fact the images for the A2600 [NA] entry for Space Tunnel found here, https://vgcollect.com/item/35898
This is further complicated by the fact that the erroneous title can be called Sea Monster or Seamonster.
According to AtariMania, Sea Monster did not have a [NA] release; however Seamonster did and can be found in the database here: https://www.vgcollect.com/item/35896 - this is in fact a Canadian release.
Sea Monster was released as A2600[EU] PAL title and is in the database here: https://vgcollect.com/item/273181. In fact, this title was released by both Bit Corp. and Puzzy (a subsidiary of Bit Corp.), but the Puzzy version has not been entered into the database as of yet.
That is so confusing that I now need a nap.
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The A2600[NA] entry for Sea Monster, https://www.vgcollect.com/item/49687, has the incorrect box images, which are in fact the images for the A2600 [NA] entry for Space Tunnel found here, https://vgcollect.com/item/35898
This is further complicated by the fact that the erroneous title can be called Sea Monster or Seamonster.
According to AtariMania, Sea Monster did not have a [NA] release; however Seamonster did and can be found in the database here: https://www.vgcollect.com/item/35896 - this is in fact a Canadian release.
Sea Monster was released as A2600[EU] PAL title and is in the database here: https://vgcollect.com/item/273181. In fact, this title was released by both Bit Corp. and Puzzy (a subsidiary of Bit Corp.), but the Puzzy version has not been entered into the database as of yet.
That is so confusing that I now need a nap.
Merging 49687 with 35896.
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The entry for item 147084 (https://vgcollect.com/item/147084)- "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Super S: Fuwa Fuwa Panic 2" has an incorrect title. It should be "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Sailor Stars Fuwa Fuwa Panic 2."
The edit request was rejected, pointing to this GameFaqs entry (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/571387-bishoujo-senshi-sailor-moon-super-s-fuwa-fuwa-panic/data), which is not the entry for this game, but the entry for VGCollect item 63659 (https://vgcollect.com/item/63659).
The correct GameFaqs entry for 147084 is this one (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/574604-bishoujo-senshi-sailor-moon-sailor-stars-fuwa-fuwa), which does show the title as "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Sailor Stars Fuwa Fuwa Panic 2."
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The entry for item 147084 (https://vgcollect.com/item/147084)- "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Super S: Fuwa Fuwa Panic 2" has an incorrect title. It should be "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Sailor Stars Fuwa Fuwa Panic 2."
The edit request was rejected, pointing to this GameFaqs entry (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/571387-bishoujo-senshi-sailor-moon-super-s-fuwa-fuwa-panic/data), which is not the entry for this game, but the entry for VGCollect item 63659 (https://vgcollect.com/item/63659).
The correct GameFaqs entry for 147084 is this one (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/574604-bishoujo-senshi-sailor-moon-sailor-stars-fuwa-fuwa), which does show the title as "Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Sailor Stars Fuwa Fuwa Panic 2."
That was my mistake. If the edit is re-submitted, it will be approved.