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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: turf on November 20, 2012, 10:40:46 am
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I started to do something kinda awesome a little while ago. I decided I would save all my change and then buy something I would never spend the money on. I figure if I do this for 6 months or so I can get Earthbound or at least ClayFighter: Sculpter's Cut.
If anyone wants to join in, it might be kinda fun to come back to this thread in a few months and post what we bought. You'd be suprised how much change you go through and never even notice.
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That could be fun. I don't usually pay for things with cash, however.
I used to put all of my change in a mason jar. When it was finally full I took it in. To my amazement it totaled over $200. Pretty crazy.
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Cash? Must be some new type of debit card.
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We just cashed in all our pennies the other day. It was about $17.00. Thats a lot of copper.
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I usually save all my change and do the same thing. This last time I used it to back Reaper Miniature's Kickstarter project. Ended up dropping somewhere in the neighborhood of $300 on it and that was 90% change and bottle returns. Pretty sweet.
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I will start today. 11-20. So 5-20 I will see what I have. :)
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@soera You might want to back that up a month. Prices tend to go up when kids get out of school.
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Actually thats not a bad idea. I have another "goal" ending in April too. I am trying to lose a little weight (while Im not fat or large by any means, I want to get back to the recommended weight for someone my height and that is 140 so I need to go down 35 lbs). If I make this goal, then I can use that change to buy me a reward!
So from 11-20 to 4-20 (420 rocks anyhow!)
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Actually thats not a bad idea. I have another "goal" ending in April too. I am trying to lose a little weight (while Im not fat or large by any means, I want to get back to the recommended weight for someone my height and that is 140 so I need to go down 35 lbs). If I make this goal, then I can use that change to buy me a reward!
So from 11-20 to 4-20 (420 rocks anyhow!)
Not to mention that you'll be, by default, spending less $ from eating/buying less food to add to your change-jar :P
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That sounds like a win!
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That is a great idea. My grandma used to give me two big jars of change that she saved all for my birthday. My birthday is Jan 2 so it worked out perfect, but they used to total a couple hundred dollars. But like everyone else I think I'll do this as well
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I usually keep my Quarters in a coffee can and glue the lid on it. Then I keep all of my other change in an old tub for Laffy Taffy. The gluing the lid think worked great, but I had meant to save quarters from February to February. Ended up needing the money for the Kickstarter in July, but it was too good a deal to pass up, so it was worth it.
Plus, I should be set for life on minis. ha
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I already have a little bank full of change from like the past 3-4 yrs at my current apt but haven't had it counted yet. I've also looted it for laundry quarters, too, so it's probably not as lucrative as it could be.
But I like the idea! I have another piggy bank that I can start anew from, so I'll throw a "don't open before" date on it and see what I get. Like Darko, I don't really use cash that often, so I don't imagine I'll have much change. Hopefully by the end of the few months, I'll have enough to buy an indie bundle or something ;)
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I started carrying more cash just for this. And it makes balancing my checkbook easier. Win/win
By the way, have we set a date yet? April 20th sound ok? 5 months from today?
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That sounds like a win!
Indeed!
A Thin Win ;)
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I started carrying more cash just for this. And it makes balancing my checkbook easier. Win/win
By the way, have we set a date yet? April 20th sound ok? 5 months from today?
Sounds good to me. I'll glue the lid back on the Folger's can tonight! ;D
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w00t 4/20 party time when we all rush home to count change
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w00t 4/20 party time when we all rush home to count change
Count change...the hell you say :o
I'm quite sure that there's machines all over the place that will do that job for us now :P
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w00t 4/20 party time when we all rush home to count change
Count change...the hell you say :o
I'm quite sure that there's machines all over the place that will do that job for us now :P
Haha, that's true. And it will be 2013 by then, so the future technology will certainly aid our case. Also, I only found out recently that Coinstar machines offer things like Amazon and Xbox Live e-cards as an option for redemption, and it's fee-free!
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I'd go for an amazon card option. Maybe. But what I'd be eyeballing would more than likely be an eBay purchase.
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Yeah there is one of those Coinstar machines at the Walmart by the house. Amazon card would work for me (or whatever has the cheapest game Im looking at).
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Why don't you just take it to the bank? They give you actual real American currency. No charge.
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Thats how I changed mine in. But they dont give you cash in return. They send it into their main office and count it (took them 4 days) then deposit it into your account.
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What kinda backwards ass banks do you guys have in Oklahoma? Sounds like a lot of crap to me. Lol
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That's what my mom's bank did.
I now use Coinstar. :P
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That's what my mom's bank did.
I now use Coinstar. :P
Weird. I walk into my bank with a tub full of rolled change, they hand me bills. And I walk out a happy man, ha.
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That's what my mom's bank did.
I now use Coinstar. :P
Weird. I walk into my bank with a tub full of rolled change, they hand me bills. And I walk out a happy man, ha.
Her bank was Bank of Scamerica. So...
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Weird. I walk into my bank with a tub full of rolled change, they hand me bills. And I walk out a happy man, ha.
Maybe because you had them already rolled? I assumed banks wouldn't take them if they weren't rolled, anyway.
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My bank has a machine in the lobby. You dump in change. It prints a ticket. You take the ticket to the teller. The teller hands you frog skins.
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I'm making some headway. I don't know what I'm going to buy, but it looks like it might be something awesome.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj573/turf1218/851AAD6D-669A-4514-A650-5D37BD694E1B-1302-0000008B64A9BDD3_zpsc8d2fc14.jpg)
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Never mind :)
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Since we use BB Code on the boards, you're need to add "width=#" to your [img] tag. Where # is the number of pixels wide you want it to be.
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(http://animal.discovery.com/mammals/cheetah/pictures/cheetah-picture.jpg)
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(http://animal.discovery.com/mammals/cheetah/pictures/cheetah-picture.jpg "width=200" "height=85")
Nope
[img width=600]http://animal.discovery.com/mammals/cheetah/pictures/cheetah-picture.jpg[/img]
:)
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(http://animal.discovery.com/mammals/cheetah/pictures/cheetah-picture.jpg "width=200" "height=85")
Nope
[img width=600]http://animal.discovery.com/mammals/cheetah/pictures/cheetah-picture.jpg[/img]
:)
Yeah!
So BB keeps the image height and width locked automatically for re-sizing? That's nice.
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Ya, it's constrains the proportions, so you only have to worry about one dimension. Usually I always set horizontal images to 800 pixels wide and vertical images to 600 pixels wide.
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Well there you have it.
Also, I'm hiring that cheetah to guard my collection, so tell all your friends to STAY AWAY!
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I did it! So all I have to do is add the "width=300" after the [img ] part? Now to get this thread back on topic.
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I did it! So all I have to do is add the "width=300" after the [img ] part? Now to get this thread back on topic.
Yupper.
And, on topic. I have myself a fairly good haul so far. I need to clean out my cup holder in the car tonight too, I can't even put a drink in it at the moment. I havea good idea of what I might get. I'm leaning toward either Belmont's Revenge, or a spendy Saturn game of some kind.. Magic Knight Rayearth? maybe?
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Hum, thats a weird coincidence :o, LOL. I actually started a change jar the beginning of November to try and save up for a 3ds XL. I figured by the time I got enough change for one, they would hopefully have a better selection of colors out. LOL
I have one of those old large glass apple cider jugs that I throw all the silver change into and a large plastic fruit punch jug that I throw all the pennies into. ;D So far I have about two inches of pennies and and an inch and a half of silver change. Its become a weekly thing where at the end of the week I empty my purse of all the accumulated change.
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Mine isnt anywhere close to that. :O Maybe Ill be able to buy a Big Mac when its all said and done!
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Hum, thats a weird coincidence :o, LOL. I actually started a change jar the beginning of November to try and save up for a 3ds XL. I figured by the time I got enough change for one, they would hopefully have a better selection of colors out. LOL
I have one of those old large glass apple cider jugs that I throw all the silver change into and a large plastic fruit punch jug that I throw all the pennies into. ;D So far I have about two inches of pennies and and an inch and a half of silver change. Its become a weekly thing where at the end of the week I empty my purse of all the accumulated change.
Well welcome to the coin collecting party! :D
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Mine isnt anywhere close to that. :O Maybe Ill be able to buy a Big Mac when its all said and done!
Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only one who might only be able to afford something from the value menu come April... :)
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Yeah there is one of those Coinstar machines at the Walmart by the house. Amazon card would work for me (or whatever has the cheapest game Im looking at).
Just a heads up, the Coinstar machines in Wal-mart don't offer amazon.com ecerts. We're not allowed to place machines in Wal-mart with an Amazon.com option due to our contract with Wal-mart (amazon being a major competitor for walmart and all that).
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Yeah there is one of those Coinstar machines at the Walmart by the house. Amazon card would work for me (or whatever has the cheapest game Im looking at).
Just a heads up, the Coinstar machines in Wal-mart don't offer amazon.com ecerts. We're not allowed to place machines in Wal-mart with an Amazon.com option due to our contract with Wal-mart (amazon being a major competitor for walmart and all that).
That makes a lot of sense. Does it have Xbox e-cards? I haven't tried my Coinstar at my local Safeway yet - I'm hoping it has an Amazon option.
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We just cashed in all our pennies the other day. It was about $17.00. Thats a lot of copper.
It's a lot less copper than you think.
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We just cashed in all our pennies the other day. It was about $17.00. Thats a lot of copper.
It's a lot less copper than you think.
Ha, technically, this is true.
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Bumping this up. 2 more months to go! :)
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I'm all about change :P
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Two months! I am interested in seeing everyone's totals and gets.
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I'm doing pretty good. My change jar is over halfway full. It's going to be something good.
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I'm bad at putting the change in the jar. So I have change all over my room and dresser, ha. Based on what's in the jar and all over the place, I think I'll be getting something good too.
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I have a small metal candy container from Christmas. Its a bit over half full atm!
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Heh, we should take pictures of the change containers at some point... I'll take a shot of mine when I get home tonight.
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It's gonna be something good!
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj573/turf1218/CC38A761-C720-483F-B935-C71BDE99B259-17429-00000817E44006E9_zps30e2545d.jpg)
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It's gonna be something good!
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj573/turf1218/CC38A761-C720-483F-B935-C71BDE99B259-17429-00000817E44006E9_zps30e2545d.jpg)
Whoa, nice! I love that it has your username on it, hahaha
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People have called me Turf as long as I can remember. A buddy got me this as a groomsmen gift 100 years ago. There are people in this world that don't know my name is Jason and not Turf.
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finally...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8226/8516556440_04cf92014f_z.jpg)
Though you can't see into the bank, but I'm guessing it might be about half full.
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My change might not make it to April. I might need to turn it in toward the house paper work...
I was really hoping to finally buy Earthbound too. D:
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Ill get a pic of my thing up tonight. :)
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Ill get a pic of my thing up tonight. :)
Don't nobody here wanna see a pic of "your thing" - here (or anywhere else), for that matter :o
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My change might not make it to April. I might need to turn it in toward the house paper work...
I was really hoping to finally buy Earthbound too. D:
Well, it sounded like you already got your big-ticket item with the tax return, so it all kinda evens out...?
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Ill get a pic of my thing up tonight. :)
Don't nobody here wanna see a pic of "your thing" - here (or anywhere else), for that matter :o
lol that's what she said
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Ill get a pic of my thing up tonight. :)
Don't nobody here wanna see a pic of "your thing" - here (or anywhere else), for that matter :o
lol that's what she said
XD!
IDK, though...who's the one tossing around the "BIG-Ticket Item" phrasing... :-X
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Gah I should have known I needed to phrase my posts a little better. :P
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Gah I should have known I needed to phrase my posts a little better. :P
Indeed :)
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Sadly the number on the box is not the amount in the box. :(
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Sadly the number on the box is not the amount in the box. :(
Ha, that's a great way to store your change.
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My change might not make it to April. I might need to turn it in toward the house paper work...
I was really hoping to finally buy Earthbound too. D:
Well, it sounded like you already got your big-ticket item with the tax return, so it all kinda evens out...?
Ya but I was hoping on one last spendy item before I slash my collecting "budget"... ha
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Alrighty. Here is how I save change. I split the quarters from the rest and have 2 containers going. I rolled it up tonight in case I need it for house stuff, and right now I'm sitting at a little over $130.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/LOPWyrm/IMG_20130307_223420_zpsf4c3ade2.jpg)
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Im disappointed. I went on a little road trip last weekend and had to bring my change to pay for tolls. Well, I must not have been doing well cause after the tolls were all done, I had less than a dollars worth of change in my box (all the pennies that the tolls dont take). Looks like my saving was pointless.
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That's really impressive Scott, I can't wait to see what you end up getting with it.
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That's really impressive Scott, I can't wait to see what you end up getting with it.
As of right now, I may need to use it for paperwork fees for this house deal. I'm gonna look at my bank account after I get paid though and if I can hold off on using it, I will.
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I might be able to swing the house paper work w/ this check and not have to touch my change (yay!) But I might skim it down to $100 and use $30 of it too. I'm not sure yet.
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Alright. So, since I counted my change, I somehow ended up with another $20. I've decided to skim the change down to $100 and keep that going until 4/20. And deposit $50 in the bank, since I'm super broke. Hopefully I won't need to dig into it anymore, and I can keep it going for the next month.
Here's hoping.
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That's really impressive Scott, I can't wait to see what you end up getting with it.
Over a hundred is really impressive, Great job Scott
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cO95F8_Jwss/UHCMat3nHWI/AAAAAAAADzk/s7u5IMjxS5Y/s1600/great+scott!.png)
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That's really impressive Scott, I can't wait to see what you end up getting with it.
Over a hundred is really impressive, Great job Scott
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cO95F8_Jwss/UHCMat3nHWI/AAAAAAAADzk/s7u5IMjxS5Y/s1600/great+scott!.png)
lol, another soundbite for pathfinder ;)
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One month to go, folks!
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I can't wait. I'm tempted to go get it counted now just to see how much is there.
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So, after this are we waiting another 6 months and doing it all over again? Would be October 20th, if we are.
Either way, I'm always saving change, but I wouldn't mind making a thing out of it. I'm really interested to see everyone's totals and what they do with it.
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We can do 6 months, or we can do a whole year. I'm down for whatever
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6 months seems plenty long to me. Any longer and it would start burning a hole in my pocket.
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So, dig it. I went to the bank today to deposit my check and when I opened my wallet, I noticed I still had $30 left in it from last weeks "living expenses/ food" money. So, that $30 is going right into my change jar, to replenish the change I took out! So now I'm just -$20 on the count of my change. Maybe by the end of it, I'll be able to toss that $20 back into it too.
I've not counted it again, since I rolled it. But I'm super interested to see where I end up now.
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I keep adding dollar bills to mine to try to fix what I had to spend on toll booths. I can wait to see what I have in there!
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I keep adding dollar bills to mine to try to fix what I had to spend on toll booths. I can wait to see what I have in there!
Toll booths?!
There's this 'new' thing called E-Z Pass...
:)
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I can wait to see what I have in there!
I see what you did there.
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I keep adding dollar bills to mine to try to fix what I had to spend on toll booths. I can wait to see what I have in there!
Toll booths?!
There's this 'new' thing called E-Z Pass...
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Heh it was a one day event. I cant believe there were multiple tolls each direction and how much they cost per pass. The state must be making a killing!
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I can wait to see what I have in there!
I see what you did there.
Ha! I didnt even realize I left off the T. Sadly it still holds true. :)
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And that $50 I skimmed off has been replenished! This is gonna be ridiculous.
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Any ideas of what ya'll are going to buy?
I'm leaning towards Chip & Dale 2 since that's the last Disney Capcom game for me to add to the collection.
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The way mine is going, Ill probably be able to buy a cheeseburger meal.
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The way mine is going, Ill probably be able to buy a cheeseburger meal.
Good thing you saved so you can Super Size it
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Salt meet wound. :(
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I'm thinking the 2 PS2 Devil Summoner games. And maybe the backlight kit for my GBA.
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The way mine is going, Ill probably be able to buy a cheeseburger meal.
You should skip the game, soera -and- invest in an E-Z Pass :P
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Heh I know! I just wish the drive was worth it. I was burned out on the local game hunt area and wanted to try something a bit further out ... but with the price of the games I found + gas + toll fees, it would have been better spent just buying a few games online. :(
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Heh I know! I just wish the drive was worth it. I was burned out on the local game hunt area and wanted to try something a bit further out ... but with the price of the games I found + gas + toll fees, it would have been better spent just buying a few games online. :(
It's the journey, not the destination. Ebay isn't near as fun.
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This thread makes me want to start to use cash just so I can save the change!
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This thread makes me want to start to use cash just so I can save the change!
::)
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Heh I know! I just wish the drive was worth it. I was burned out on the local game hunt area and wanted to try something a bit further out ... but with the price of the games I found + gas + toll fees, it would have been better spent just buying a few games online. :(
It's the journey, not the destination. Ebay isn't near as fun.
Oh I agree. Fun wise, I enjoyed taking the family. They all had a good time. But for the games I got (Miracle piano and Dragon's lair) it ended up costing more than their value all things considered but I had to pick up something!
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15 days!
Once I do the final count on the 20th, I'll be starting up again and aiming for Oct 20th as the next deadline. Maybe we can make this a biannual tradition! Ha
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10 days left to go!
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I jumped the gun a little. I made an offer on something awesome on ebay today. If they take it, I'll have to hope I have at least that amount in that glass.
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I jumped the gun a little. I made an offer on something awesome on ebay today. If they take it, I'll have to hope I have at least that amount in that glass.
We know it's not Earthbound :)
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I jumped the gun a little. I made an offer on something awesome on ebay today. If they take it, I'll have to hope I have at least that amount in that glass.
We know it's not Earthbound :)
It was going to be Earthbound but I can see it from where I'm sitting right now.
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Aww, bad Turf!
(Thought I also have a few things on bid atm that is planned for my change, too.)
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I havent counted mine yet but Im actually looking forward to it. Im going to put it towards http://vgcollect.com/item/41260
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I'm really interested to see what everyone else's totals and pick-ups are.
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I havent counted mine yet but Im actually looking forward to it. Im going to put it towards http://vgcollect.com/item/41260
That would be a sweet purchase.
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I'm really antsy on starting to pick up things early. I think it's because normally I don't go passed 4 months or so of saving up change. So pushing it to 6 is the longest I've ever gone.
Of course, the good thing is. I've finally stopped putting change on random countertops around the house after I get home, and it's trained me to put them in their jars as soon as I get home. Makes for a lot less random coins all over the place. ha
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I havent counted mine yet but Im actually looking forward to it. Im going to put it towards http://vgcollect.com/item/41260
That would be a sweet purchase.
I finally found someone who has one for sale and willing to ship to the states (and should cost a bit less than having an organ removed). I may use this person a second time to get this next : http://vgcollect.com/item/24036. That thing would look amazing on my DQ wall!
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I went and had mine counted yesterday. I was a little disappointed with the total. It was only $94.39. I would have swore it was at least $150. Oh well, now I know how much my change cup will hold.
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I counted up mine earlier and came up w/ that $165 total. But I'm not going to count it again until the 20th. I did do the math on how much change I tend to accumulate, and figured from when I counted up my total last time, I could pile on another $25 between the 20th and then. :o
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If you guys are disappointed with nearly $100, you guys will probably cry when I give you my total. But Im going to wait till the actual 20th to count it!
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Oh I'm not disappointed at all. I always figure, that any money in there is "found money", same with bottle deposits. :)
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Maybe Soera and I can pull ours together for a crane game where they have PSPs as prizes!
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5 days!
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I'm gonna round mine off to an even $100. Who cares if I have to get a roll of dimes to make it "change".
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Well, I grew a tad impatient and counted my change ... lets just say if I was going to round mine up to $100, I would have to add a 50 and a 20 to get there. :|
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aww. Well, $30 is better than nothing though, right? :)
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Considering the item Im wanting to buy is around $90, I only need to save for another 12 months :o
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True.
I guess it all depends on how much cash you use. I use cash as much as possible and I rarely use change, which is why I build up change as fast as I do.
Also, 2 days!
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When we started this I started carrying cash everyday. I use folding money and save the change. It should have been a lot more, and it will be October 20th.
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For me even if I did use paper money I would need to use the change to live on but living in Canada we also have a 1 and 2 dollar coin so you start missing out on a lot of money pretty quickly if you save all your change.
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For me even if I did use paper money I would need to use the change to live on but living in Canada we also have a 1 and 2 dollar coin so you start missing out on a lot of money pretty quickly if you save all your change.
I mentioned a similar thing to Scott after my Japan trip. Their bills start at the 1000 yen (approx. 10 USD) and anything less than that is in coin form. So a pocket of a few coins to them could easily be about $15-20 in USD. Would be hard to not use up those coins!
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Couldn't stop myself. I blew my wad... of change. Change bucket is empty, but I have a prize that i got a pretty ok price on. Pictures to come on Saturday. It should be here by then.
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Yup I already made my purchases too. But will be counting the grand total tomorrow night, since I'll be moving all weekend. Then its off to the bank on Monday to deposit it and cover my purchases.
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Ive decided what Im actually going to use the money on ... but the total isnt going to change between when I counted it last night and Saturday's reveal day.
Here is my focus : http://vgcollect.com/item/5807 - found a guy willing to hold a copy for me till I get the money he wants for it. Wife just started a new job making tips and she really wants this game so her tip money + my saved change is going to go together for a bit.
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Today's the day. We all get to show what we bought. Me first!
I ended up with right at 100 bones of change. I blew it all in one purchase.
I got a pretty good price on it. I had to put another $15 with my total, but it was worth it. I never would have spent this amount without having the free money of saving change. Whoever came up with this idea is a genius.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj573/turf1218/16C9EFD0-B3AD-4C03-9317-C928D23550AF-17243-00000945C99ADC54_zps0959cb93.jpg)
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Nice! congrats!
I haven't had a chance to count my total, since my plan for last night got completely upended. And we are going to start moving after work.
But, I did get the last thing I had ordered w/ the change money. And I'll take some pics and try to post a total tonight.
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Turf thats awesome you picked the exact same item I did. :D My grand total was around just a couple cents over $30 ... so we are adding that to the wife's tip jar till we get RR2 ... after that, who knows!
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I haven't been able to count my change yet. But here is what I ended up getting with it. I knew I had over $165. And I should have nearly $180 if my estimate is correct.
These give me all the Doors albums in vinyl. Including 2 Greatest Hits and 2 Live albums. I'm going to hang them all in my living room.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/LOPWyrm/IMG_20130420_154419_zps5e51fe27.jpg)
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I haven't been able to count my change yet. But here is what I ended up getting with it. I knew I had over $165. And I should have nearly $180 if my estimate is correct.
These give me all the Doors albums in vinyl. Including 2 Greatest Hits and 2 Live albums. I'm going to hang them all in my living room.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/LOPWyrm/IMG_20130420_154419_zps5e51fe27.jpg)
Those look great Scott!
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Haha I finally found a working Coinstar tower and had it count it up for me this morning. $17.39! 8)
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Just think ... we could pair our change up and it wouldnt even be half of what Turf or Scott ended up with. :P
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I haven't been able to count my change yet. But here is what I ended up getting with it. I knew I had over $165. And I should have nearly $180 if my estimate is correct.
These give me all the Doors albums in vinyl. Including 2 Greatest Hits and 2 Live albums. I'm going to hang them all in my living room.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/LOPWyrm/IMG_20130420_154419_zps5e51fe27.jpg)
That's awesome. Me and my wife have been talking about how cool it would be to have a sweet vinyl collection. That would be a helluva start!
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Ha ya a sweet vinyl collection could be pretty rad. I'm not sure I want to get deep into vinyl tho. But I am a pretty huge Doors fan and always thought it would be cool to have their records hanging on my walls with my bass guitars.
Oh! Grand total time!
$184.00
The left over change that didn't make it into rolls, is now the basis of the change for October!
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Just think ... we could pair our change up and it wouldnt even be half of what Turf or Scott ended up with. :P
Right? I added another coin bank I had going since I moved into my current apt (about 4 years ago), but I never put quarters into that one because I have a coin-op washer/dryer at my place.
So the grand total was...
$36.33!
I loaded it on to an Amazon gift-card, but maybe I'll use the "save your change" total for something from Steam... There are a few items there on my wishlist...
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I mentioned this on the "recently added to collection" thread, but I decided to use the change to buy
(http://cdn2.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/219740/header_292x136.jpg?t=1366089026)
Since it's still in beta, I actually get two copies of the game, so I traded the extra to a friend and had him buy me
(http://cdn2.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/234710/header_292x136.jpg?t=1366417481)
which comes with a free copy of
(http://cdn2.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/31280/header_292x136.jpg?t=1328547077)