General and Gaming => Modern Video Games => Topic started by: 90snostalga on January 04, 2014, 12:11:21 am
Title: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 04, 2014, 12:11:21 am
So thanks to Soera, Turf and the thread for the Nintendo Wii U from a while back, I was properly educated that the Wii U is not an accessory to the Wii, but it's own console! So I ended up grabbing one based on this information, and I will have to say even tho' I have only played Zombie U on it, I love the console so far! :D The gamepad for video games is an amazing function! The way the character has to look at his back pack on the game pad on Zombie is just one example.
Anyways, my point to this thread, is other than the obvious Nintendo gems coming out to the Wii U like Mario Kart, Zelda, Donkey Kong, etc., do you think that it's any ways possible that Nintendo will get more 3rd party support and more 3rd party exclusives? I believe that some games have the potential to be massive and untouchable on the Wii U versus some other consoles if the game pad is fully uses to it's best possible potential. Please let me know you're thoughts everyone...
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: soera on January 04, 2014, 09:33:55 am
Its going to develop just the way every other Nintendo system has. It definitely has the same type of potential that the 3DS does with the dual screens and the touch option. I think its a cool system regardless of all the people that say they hate it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: stuntman64 on January 04, 2014, 03:18:05 pm
So thanks to Soera, Turf and the thread for the Nintendo Wii U from a while back, I was properly educated that the Wii U is not an accessory to the Wii, but it's own console! So I ended up grabbing one based on this information, and I will have to say even tho' I have only played Zombie U on it, I love the console so far! :D The gamepad for video games is an amazing function! The way the character has to look at his back pack on the game pad on Zombie is just one example.
Anyways, my point to this thread, is other than the obvious Nintendo gems coming out to the Wii U like Mario Kart, Zelda, Donkey Kong, etc., do you think that it's any ways possible that Nintendo will get more 3rd party support and more 3rd party exclusives? I believe that some games have the potential to be massive and untouchable on the Wii U versus some other consoles if the game pad is fully uses to it's best possible potential. Please let me know you're thoughts everyone...
I like the wii u a lot too, infact im replying off the gamepad. I think Nintendo has a lot of work to do, but they WILL show everyone who's on top.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: karyann on January 04, 2014, 05:02:20 pm
I really love the Wii U, the gamepad is incredible and has so much potential! My only complain is about the damn thing about locking NNID to a console... I created my NNID back when I lived with my parents, but now that I moved away and got my own console, I can't access any game I bought at my parents' because my NNID is tied to their console :( I called customer support to have my account transferred and they told me it was impossible as of now, but that they were working on a software to make this easier in the future. Somewhere in the future. Who knows when.
But other than that, I really love everything that it already has to offer right now, and with the promise of more stuff to come, I can only be excited :) I got Pikmin 3 and New Super Luigi U for Christmas, I'll have to play them soon!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 04, 2014, 09:21:09 pm
I really love the Wii U, the gamepad is incredible and has so much potential! My only complain is about the damn thing about locking NNID to a console... I created my NNID back when I lived with my parents, but now that I moved away and got my own console, I can't access any game I bought at my parents' because my NNID is tied to their console :( I called customer support to have my account transferred and they told me it was impossible as of now, but that they were working on a software to make this easier in the future. Somewhere in the future. Who knows when.
But other than that, I really love everything that it already has to offer right now, and with the promise of more stuff to come, I can only be excited :) I got Pikmin 3 and New Super Luigi U for Christmas, I'll have to play them soon!
Aw that sucks :-\ I didn't know about that. I'm kind of glad now that I did not create a Nintendo ID at all with it. I have read of people having problems that every single time they try to play a game, even the same game, they have to do a 5 to 10 minute update. Mine just says no internet connection, i hit cancel and the game starts. Other than that annoying Day 1 Wii Mode update, I love it!! :D I do wish that companies would take better advantage of the GamePad feature. Let me know how that Luigi U is when you get around to it..
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: karyann on January 05, 2014, 09:34:07 pm
Aw that sucks :-\ I didn't know about that. I'm kind of glad now that I did not create a Nintendo ID at all with it. I have read of people having problems that every single time they try to play a game, even the same game, they have to do a 5 to 10 minute update. Mine just says no internet connection, i hit cancel and the game starts. Other than that annoying Day 1 Wii Mode update, I love it!! :D I do wish that companies would take better advantage of the GamePad feature. Let me know how that Luigi U is when you get around to it..
If the console is yours and you plan on keeping it, there's no problem at all creating an NNID :) I'd actually recommend it, because Miiverse is really fun. I became addicted without realising it.
As of now, I'd say that Luigi U is really great! I love that Luigi has a special jump, and the levels are definitely harder than the usual "New Super Mario", especially if you want to get all the big coins. Especially at that price, I definitely recommend!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: blipcs76 on January 06, 2014, 10:04:35 am
I got one just before Christmas as well and have been addicted to Super Mario 3D World. Every single level in that game has a unique element to it. Rarely do you see so much creativity crammed into a single game. And the most important part, it's really fun. That's why I love Nintendo so much, they focus on the most important part of gaming first -- making it fun. Meanwhile, the 'hardcore' consoles seem to have shifted focus to realism, story and online multiplayer while often forgetting to make their games fun.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: burningdoom on January 18, 2014, 03:25:25 pm
I just wanted to share this from an article from the latest issue of Retro Gamer. It's VERY reflective of what's going on with Nintendo now, but with the N64. Ironic that I read this today, when this thread is going on.
It's from their section "Back to the Nineties", which takes actual gaming articles from the magazines of the time and reprints them. This one from 1996.
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Nintendo was in a state of flux with worrying reports regarding the state of the company over recent weeks. First was the news that its long awaited Nintendo 64 was suffering from sluggish sales and that Nintendo's sales forecast was overly optimistic. Nintendo also announced further price cuts to its newest console with the N64 dropping from $249.99 to $199.99 for it's North American launch last month. Japanese N64 consoles were reduced accordingly.
Nintendo suggested this was to squeeze the competition, Sony's PlayStation and Sega's Saturn, both of which had also recently launched. Others indicated that N64 wasn't selling the units Nintendo had projected.
Potentially the most damaging news report was that long time Nintendo employee and head of its development team, Gunpei Yokoi, had left the company. Yokoi had been involved with many of Nintendo's biggest hardware and software creations. He had created the Game & Watch handheld LCD games and the Game Boy. He had also helped Shigeru Miyamoto as the producer of Mario and Donkey Kong and also produced the hugely popular Metroid franchise. Sadly, it seemed his one failure - the headache-inducing Virtual Boy - cost him his job.
Unfortunately for Nintendo a combination of all these elements resulted in its shares dropping and being suspended from trading amid a wave of selling in its stock. However, its shares resumed trading the next day.
Sound a lot like what's happening with the Wii U with it not selling well, the price drop, and even talks of Shigeru Miyamoto retiring (like Gunpei Yokoi's departure then).
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: ffmaniac2050 on January 18, 2014, 06:18:47 pm
I am definitely enjoying my wii u. Just picked up one of the mario wii remotes at a Goodwill for $15 actually :)
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: turf on January 18, 2014, 11:40:49 pm
I am yet to find someone who has a WiiU that does not enjoy it. Maybe the majority of people that buy games are more into graphics than good games. Maybe the WiiU is seen as too much of a kids toy. I just know it's a good system with good games.
I've heard its hard to program for and Nintendo puts a lot of restrictions on 3rd party developers. That and weak sales killed 3rd party support. That, in turn, hurt sales even more. The WiiU wasn't even getting bad press. It was just left out of the conversation.
I truly hope the WiiU pulls a 3DS and turns around. Its not that I already have a WiiU and I don't want to buy another system, but Nintendo makes really, really good games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: desocietas on January 19, 2014, 12:23:05 am
Read this article today... http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/17/wii-u-not-selling/
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: pacpix on January 19, 2014, 01:55:47 am
I always go with Nintendo when the new generation comes for two reasons; the first party games and they own my favorite baseball team. Nintendo's first party games are always worth the purchase of the console for me, but I can't help but feel disappointed with the growing lack of third party support. Nintendo's third party support is about as dismal as the baseball team they own and it makes it harder for me to justify a purchase of a new console, I feel like I miss out on a lot of great games. After the Wii was losing support and companies were releasing watered down ports of popular games all of my friends jumped ship and no longer have any interest in Nintendo consoles which really sucks as we are not playing the same games together anymore. I am the only one who stuck with Nintendo this generation in my group of friends. I am not counting out the Wii U yet as it is way to early to be judging the library to harshly, but so far my 3DS is getting waaaaaay more play time and I am not much of a handheld gamer. Also I usually get my consoles mid to near end of the generation so I may just not be used to having the lack of games of a new system.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 19, 2014, 12:23:32 pm
I keep reading these articles about Nintendo, Nintendo , Nintendo and now they say they may go more internet and more mobile with their business strategy. I love my Wii U and wish others would get it. It's like I want to pray that NIntendo does better lol.
Furthermore, I just really think that with the release of Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Super smash bros., and the new Zelda game if it ever comes out will pick up the sales quite a bit. Well, thats what im hoping for.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: MJMaranan on January 19, 2014, 10:48:14 pm
Considering current articles are true about Nintendo's massive flop, will they exit out of the hardware market?
Loss of third-party support, Miyamoto preparing for retirement, Nintendo's stock drops... Wonder what this year's Nintendo E3 entails.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 19, 2014, 10:56:20 pm
I just wanted to share this from an article from the latest issue of Retro Gamer.
I went to that site and im interested but I have never subscribed to a magazine before. I'm tempted to do it but is the price a good price for the magazine sub? I know I can do the online part but I prefer to read magazines and books on paper because its more easier for me.
Also, do you like the Retro Magazine so far? What do you think of it?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: burningdoom on January 19, 2014, 11:05:51 pm
I just wanted to share this from an article from the latest issue of Retro Gamer.
I went to that site and im interested but I have never subscribed to a magazine before. I'm tempted to do it but is the price a good price for the magazine sub? I know I can do the online part but I prefer to read magazines and books on paper because its more easier for me.
Also, do you like the Retro Magazine so far? What do you think of it?
This article is from the U.K. Retro Gamer Magazine. It's pretty dang pricey to subscribe to, unless you like in the U.K.
The one I just subscribed to with the link in the other thread is from the U.S. and simply titled "Retro" magazine. I haven't gotten my first issue yet, and won't for a little while because it comes out every 2 months.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 19, 2014, 11:25:41 pm
I just wanted to share this from an article from the latest issue of Retro Gamer.
I went to that site and im interested but I have never subscribed to a magazine before. I'm tempted to do it but is the price a good price for the magazine sub? I know I can do the online part but I prefer to read magazines and books on paper because its more easier for me.
Also, do you like the Retro Magazine so far? What do you think of it?
This article is from the U.K. Retro Gamer Magazine. It's pretty dang pricey to subscribe to, unless you like in the U.K.
The one I just subscribed to with the link in the other thread is from the U.S. and simply titled "Retro" magazine. I haven't gotten my first issue yet, and won't for a little while because it comes out every 2 months.
Ah okay I see. Yea I want the U.S. one. I guess I should go ahead and drop the dollars on it to get my issues ;)
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kingrat101 on January 20, 2014, 01:34:27 pm
I really love the Wii U as well, and I am definitely sticking with Nintendo for this generation. The sad thing though is that it is not doing so well, I think Nintendo can pull through that, they did with the gamecube, but I really think they need to market that controller much more and make some games that really utilize it well, because to be honest, yeah it is underpowered but they've got a unique item, that neither the Xbox one or PS4 have. From what I've seen you'll be able to get games on the xbox one and PS4 on a nice PC for cheaper. Nintendo needs to realize they have something unique so that people will pay attention
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: blipcs76 on January 20, 2014, 04:20:47 pm
Nintendo has their base locked in with their exclusives. You can't play Smash Bros., Mario Kart or Metroid anywhere else. The problem is 3rd parties, who have all but abandoned the Wii U. Nintendo needs to do something drastic to bring more games to the system that gamers want. Either:
- seriously court Western developers to get some support or - buy/develop their own new 1st/2nd party developers. I can't believe they didn't buy Atlus.
The lack of games and variety are the Wii U's weakness and until Nintendo acknowledges this, they're going to continue to limp along. I fear that as soon as devs stop supporting the 360/PS3, the Wii U is only going to have first-party titles to keep the system going. Ubisoft has even drastically cut back on their support for the system.
Even though I haven't had it for more than a few weeks, owning a Wii U today feels like how I felt as a TG-16 owner about 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: karyann on January 20, 2014, 04:45:27 pm
- buy/develop their own new 1st/2nd party developers. I can't believe they didn't buy Atlus.
I would have loved that, but at the same time I apprehended it. The only reason is because of their sensitivity over certain subjects. I love how Atlus does whatever they want, and I don't know if Nintendo would have refrained them from adding something they wanted to, in fear that oh my god people might not like this over in America (see recent censorships like hiding Tharja's bikini or removing the cartoon butt in Chibi Robo).
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: soera on January 21, 2014, 12:12:07 pm
I agree with Karyann. While Nintendo and Atlas pair would have been pretty spectacular (and actually what I originally predicted), the thought of Atlas games overcensored on a Nintendo console is painful.
I wish that Nintendo would get off the "family console" bandwagon. It was cool for a few minutes after seeing the "Wii would like to play" commercials but that scenario doesnt last long and eventually all the systems will either end up in a garage/attic or in a pawn/thrift store. If Nintendo wants to remain a force in the console world, they are going to have to abandon that. America really isnt as uptight as the Asian side of the world likes to believe.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: burningdoom on January 21, 2014, 12:54:10 pm
I agree with Karyann. While Nintendo and Atlas pair would have been pretty spectacular (and actually what I originally predicted), the thought of Atlas games overcensored on a Nintendo console is painful.
I wish that Nintendo would get off the "family console" bandwagon. It was cool for a few minutes after seeing the "Wii would like to play" commercials but that scenario doesnt last long and eventually all the systems will either end up in a garage/attic or in a pawn/thrift store. If Nintendo wants to remain a force in the console world, they are going to have to abandon that. America really isnt as uptight as the Asian side of the world likes to believe.
What do you mean "a few minutes"? Nintendo has always been family-friendly. Remember the original Mortal Kombat being neutered on SNES? Or Wolfenstein 3-D on SNES having all Nazi symbols removed from the game?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: soera on January 21, 2014, 01:12:50 pm
I agree with Karyann. While Nintendo and Atlas pair would have been pretty spectacular (and actually what I originally predicted), the thought of Atlas games overcensored on a Nintendo console is painful.
I wish that Nintendo would get off the "family console" bandwagon. It was cool for a few minutes after seeing the "Wii would like to play" commercials but that scenario doesnt last long and eventually all the systems will either end up in a garage/attic or in a pawn/thrift store. If Nintendo wants to remain a force in the console world, they are going to have to abandon that. America really isnt as uptight as the Asian side of the world likes to believe.
What do you mean "a few minutes"? Nintendo has always been family-friendly. Remember the original Mortal Kombat being neutered on SNES? Or Wolfenstein 3-D on SNES having all Nazi symbols removed from the game?
LOL I left out a few words. I mean to say the motion controls were cool for a few minutes.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kingrat101 on January 21, 2014, 01:56:35 pm
What do you mean "a few minutes"? Nintendo has always been family-friendly. Remember the original Mortal Kombat being neutered on SNES? Or Wolfenstein 3-D on SNES having all Nazi symbols removed from the game? [/quote] Right but money changed that very quickly and they didn't censor the second one. Although I hate "kiddie" system I can see where that comes from, and I think it started with the N64, Nintendo really stayed the same while the PS1 had more adult games on it. In the same sense though I don't think the wii u is "kiddie," for example the Wonderful 101 is a tough game and has adult references in it and it's also paying homage to stuff like power rangers and voltron, I don't think younger kids would get that. It was also nice to play a new Mario game and actually die a couple times, to me, "hardcore" doesn't only apply to games simulating war
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: sin2beta on January 21, 2014, 07:31:21 pm
I think Nintendo has always been aimed at kids. This was necessary with the NES. The market needed this. They needed to start fresh. So, video games were, at that point, a kid's toy. That stigma has only started to change the last 1-2 decades. Possibly, starting with the Genesis, but definitely with the PSone and Saturn. Currently I have to remind myself that everyone plays video games. Hell, a lot of the girls I work with play video games as a main recreational hobby. Coming from my early 90s perspective; that's weird.
I actually would argue that Nintendo started the kid image. Atari was for everyone (well... nerds in the popular opinion). However, Nintendo was for kids. ROB, television commercials, and the general marketing are testament to that. The reported "short supply" of products technique is primarily used for kids toys (Cabbage Patch). Just compare the two commercials at the end of this post. I tried to pick representative commercials of the 80s marketing campaigns. (Nintendo has more adult commercials like Metroid, but the also have the Zelda is totally rad commercial). For comparison, just think if George Plimpton did NES commercials. But it worked for Intellivision.. quite well I might add.
This continues with the WiiU. Wonderful 101 is more adult than the Nintendo norm. But, keep in mind, it is a Platinum game. Wonderful 101 is Platinum's Wii friendly game. There is a lot of distance between Wonderful 101 and a more typical Platinum game such as Anarchy Reigns.
To sum everything up.... Nintendo: Your parents help you hook it up. There's a lot of assumptions in that statement.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 21, 2014, 11:49:31 pm
Awesome commercials Beta. That Atari one actually sold me. Like, if this was 1981, that commercial would make me want an Atari.
On the topic tho', while Nintendo may be for kids, it produces some fantastic titles that even as an adult, I want to play! I feel like the Zelda and Mario franchises could be adult and kiddy, along with smash bros. I believe Nintendo has always done the kiddy market because it has worked for them.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 21, 2014, 11:50:14 pm
What do you guys think of this tho? Is it possible for Nintendo to put out a 3D RPG Pokemon game on the Wii U? Would that be a great benefit?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: karyann on January 22, 2014, 09:31:07 am
What do you guys think of this tho? Is it possible for Nintendo to put out a 3D RPG Pokemon game on the Wii U? Would that be a great benefit?
Since there's already a 3D RPG Pokémon game on the 3DS, and since Nintendo never made the main games leave the handhelds, I doubt it. Pokémon is not a big franchise on home consoles, so I don't think it would do much, sadly. I'd love if they made another Pokémon Stadium or Pokémon Snap though, especially Pokémon Snap; it would be awesome with the gamepad!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: scott on January 22, 2014, 11:57:45 am
I highly doubt you'll ever see a main series Pokemon game on a console. The whole point of Pokemon is to trade and battle friends when you meet up with them. If they moved it to consoles, you'd either have to do online trading and battling or force friends to carry SD cards to their friends house to trade. Which isn't in the spirit of the game.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: blipcs76 on January 22, 2014, 02:23:59 pm
Pokemon needs to evolve for consoles. My perspective as someone indifferent to the franchise is that it could be absolutely brilliant as a light MMO.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: scott on January 22, 2014, 02:25:29 pm
That could be sweet. Imagine Raids going after Legendary Pokemon as end bosses... hmm
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: MJMaranan on January 23, 2014, 02:36:58 am
Making me think how Pokémon will work as a MMO envisioned by scott and blipcs76. Will everyone catch the Legendary Pokémon as long as they participated or will it be given to the one who dealt the most damage or struck the fatal blow? ;D
Also makes it unfair to other players who participated, what would be the other prizes for the work done?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 23, 2014, 09:03:19 am
Making me think how Pokémon will work as a MMO envisioned by scott and blipcs76. Will everyone catch the Legendary Pokémon as long as they participated or will it be given to the one who dealt the most damage or struck the fatal blow? ;D
Also makes it unfair to other players who participated, what would be the other prizes for the work done?
all you guys have lost me on this...I'm not sure what an MMO is?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: scott on January 23, 2014, 09:08:39 am
Making me think how Pokémon will work as a MMO envisioned by scott and blipcs76. Will everyone catch the Legendary Pokémon as long as they participated or will it be given to the one who dealt the most damage or struck the fatal blow? ;D
Also makes it unfair to other players who participated, what would be the other prizes for the work done?
You know, I think in terms of an MMO, the Legendary Pokemon wouldn't be catchable. But then again, in WoW there were items that only dropped once a raid (maybe less) and if you didn't get it on a particular run you had to wait a week for the server reset. So catching the legendary at the end of the raid would be something like that.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: soera on January 23, 2014, 09:47:40 am
Making me think how Pokémon will work as a MMO envisioned by scott and blipcs76. Will everyone catch the Legendary Pokémon as long as they participated or will it be given to the one who dealt the most damage or struck the fatal blow? ;D
Also makes it unfair to other players who participated, what would be the other prizes for the work done?
all you guys have lost me on this...I'm not sure what an MMO is?
MMO = Massive multiplayer online. World of Warcraft and Everquest are the most well known MMOs currently. As far as the comments on the Legendary pokemon in an MMO, I agree with Scott. In EQ, most insane raid items were only one drop per raid. So you just had to be the lucky bastard to win it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: scott on January 23, 2014, 09:55:28 am
Yup, no one said MMO loot drops were ever fair. haha
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: soera on January 23, 2014, 10:42:29 am
It wasnt too bad on EQ for me. The guild I was in was the top raid guild of the entire game all servers. We farmed each main raid for months at a time so I always got my shot. I was the highest ranked bard in the world for almost a year. I really miss that game. I still keep a figurine and a bust of Firiona Vie on my desk.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 23, 2014, 03:32:51 pm
I'm now getting more anxious to get my gaming pc or laptop so I can play all that stuff.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 23, 2014, 05:58:28 pm
So according to wal mart.com mario kart is being released 4/1/2014 and Zelda 2 is 6/1/2014! :D Happy!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: tpugmire on January 24, 2014, 06:57:12 pm
Zelda hasn't even been announced yet, so that's pretty doubtful. Unless you meant that Hyrule Warriors game, then ok, maybe.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: MJMaranan on January 25, 2014, 12:46:50 am
If you are planning to play MMO games, 90snostalga, you do know some, if not most, of them have subscription fees, right? World Of Warcraft is one example of a MMO with subscription fees and I believe Elder Scrolls Online will be also. Anyone please correct me when I'm wrong.
Then again, a lot of MMO RPGs that I've been wanting to play have been opting to the free-to-play model. Star Wars: The Old Republic, Lord Of The Rings Online, and DC Universe Online.
Also, I should have thought this over completely and edited this:
Making me think how Pokémon will work as a MMO envisioned by scott and blipcs76. Will everyone catch the Legendary Pokémon as long as they participated or will it be given to the one who dealt the most damage or struck the fatal blow? ;D
Also makes it unfair to other players who participated, what would be the other prizes for the work done?
By the way, what would be other potential prizes players get from defeating Legendary Pokémon?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: 90snostalga on January 25, 2014, 12:49:56 am
If you are planning to play MMO games, 90snostalga, you do know some, if not most, of them have subscription fees, right? World Of Warcraft is one example of a MMO with subscription fees and I believe Elder Scrolls Online will be also. Anyone please correct me when I'm wrong.
Then again, a lot of MMO RPGs that I've been wanting to play have been opting to the free-to-play model. Star Wars: The Old Republic, Lord Of The Rings Online, and DC Universe Online.
Also, I should have thought this over completely and edited this:
Making me think how Pokémon will work as a MMO envisioned by scott and blipcs76. Will everyone catch the Legendary Pokémon as long as they participated or will it be given to the one who dealt the most damage or struck the fatal blow? ;D
Also makes it unfair to other players who participated, what would be the other prizes for the work done?
By the way, what would be other potential prizes players get from defeating Legendary Pokémon?
Thanks. Yea I know a lot of them require fee's, It mainly just reminded me how much I wanted to play old and new computer games offline and that I need to get a gaming strictly pc/laptop.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 13, 2014, 06:55:52 pm
For those interested, Amazon is having a sale on some Wii U games. Stuff like Resident Evil Revelations, Assassins Creed 4, and wonderful 101 are all down around 25 bucks. I grabbed AC4 and Wonderful 101 along with 007: Legends cause it was 10 bucks and because...it was 10 bucks lol
http://wiiudaily.com/2014/03/amazon-deals-wii-u/
Monster Hunter is around the same price, Zombi U is 20, some nice deals for sure. Kinda wished some Mario stuff was on sale, but they are only a couple bucks off at best. Kinda hoping Black Friday this year brings some sales for New Super Mario and Luigi U.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: teck on March 14, 2014, 04:16:41 am
I have a feeling that the Wii U could pull a DS or 3DS move if Nintendo plays their cards right.... I remember the DS not doing too hot until the DS Lite came out then it blew up.... There were tons of naysayers for the 3DS in the beginning too.... I heard so many rants about how it was going to fail.... Is it a thing to hate on Nintendo no matter what they do~? How many times does a company have to prove itself before they get the benefit of the doubt for once~?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 14, 2014, 04:47:31 am
I have a feeling that the Wii U could pull a DS or 3DS move if Nintendo plays their cards right.... I remember the DS not doing too hot until the DS Lite came out then it blew up.... There were tons of naysayers for the 3DS in the beginning too.... I heard so many rants about how it was going to fail.... Is it a thing to hate on Nintendo no matter what they do~? How many times does a company have to prove itself before they get the benefit of the doubt for once~?
While I would like that, I still don't think Nintendo can turn around the Wii U. It's simply losing too much third party support and it actually has competition with the other systems. For the 3DS, there was only the Vita which isn't much competition at all and it's the best way to have handheld mobile gaming, even with the cry for Nintendo to go mobile.
I think the Wii U will pull itself around just a bit, we have some big games coming out this year, but I don't think it'll be enough for the system to ever make the same numbers of the Wii. They just didn't do a good enough job selling the system. I don't think it'll fail though. Nintendo is much smarter with what they do. They'll struggle, but never fail, they'll never become Sega.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: teck on March 14, 2014, 05:03:42 am
I have a feeling that the Wii U could pull a DS or 3DS move if Nintendo plays their cards right.... I remember the DS not doing too hot until the DS Lite came out then it blew up.... There were tons of naysayers for the 3DS in the beginning too.... I heard so many rants about how it was going to fail.... Is it a thing to hate on Nintendo no matter what they do~? How many times does a company have to prove itself before they get the benefit of the doubt for once~?
While I would like that, I still don't think Nintendo can turn around the Wii U. It's simply losing too much third party support and it actually has competition with the other systems. For the 3DS, there was only the Vita which isn't much competition at all and it's the best way to have handheld mobile gaming, even with the cry for Nintendo to go mobile.
I think the Wii U will pull itself around just a bit, we have some big games coming out this year, but I don't think it'll be enough for the system to ever make the same numbers of the Wii. They just didn't do a good enough job selling the system. I don't think it'll fail though. Nintendo is much smarter with what they do. They'll struggle, but never fail, they'll never become Sega.
Oh yeah, I guess I didn't really iterate it well.... I don't think the Wii U will get even CLOSE to the Wii in sales.... That being said, I do have to agree with the lack of any decent marketing.... I have heard too many times that people don't even understand that the Wii U is a different system than the Wii.... The 2DS is similarly suffering in this aspect.... They are not good at distinguishing their product lines these days.... Their attempts to cleverly build related naming conventions is definitely backfiring on them.... I expect that in 2 years the Wii U will be a stable maker.... They'll have several more must have first party titles that will consistently bring in money by then.... Will they meet their projections~? No.... Will it be a "struggle" though~? I'm not sure I agree with that wording.... I just think they'll be disappointed.... It would be hilarious if they end up producing a Wii U model with only a pro controller and not a pad for a significantly lower price a la 2DS though.... I can see that happening honestly.... I'll say this though, they've got me and I'm sure I'll buy every half decent exclusive they churn out.... Multiplat though.... ehhh....
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: argyle on March 14, 2014, 09:41:32 am
I think Nintendo puts out great product. They are definitely my 2nd favorite of the big 3 (granted, not saying much since I despise MS but I really do like Nintendo a lot). And I thought the Wii U was a great piece of hardware for the most part, but traded mine in last year because I wasn't using it at all (no games at the time that interested me) and the trade in value was just too high for me to turn down at the time - not to mention I expect a further price drop in the not too distant future.
That said, I think since the Wii they've started relying on gimmicks too much. The motion control fad sold a ton of systems for them, and it seems that's made them believe that every system they put out now has to have a new gimmick to spark off a new craze. They don't. The Gamecube is still my favorite Nintendo system, and IMO it's the last time they were trying to compete head-to-head on the home console hardware front (as in specs on par or better than their competition, going after third party AAA titles, etc.). The 3DS is a fantastic system, I wouldn't part with it (or my Vita, for that matter). But the 3D is completely irrelevant. I haven't had it on in ages, because frankly not only is it pointless but it gives me a headache. My wife tried using my 3DS recently because I picked a game up for her. A few days later she tells me "I don't like the 3DS, even with the 3D off it still looks funny & hurts my eyes." She didn't realize the slider has to click down to completely turn the effect off, and once I showed her that she was fine.
The Wii U's touchpad isn't that bad; I can actually see some practical uses for it. But at the same time, it isn't necessary. If they had gone the touchpad route, or at the very least made it an optional accessory and not something packed in with the system, then they most likely could have shaved about $100 off the price of the system and would be sitting in a much better position now. $250 puts them close enough in price to the PS4 to make people think "For another $150 I can just go that route, it seems to have more games coming for it anyway and I'll probably end up with one at some point regardless...". If the Wii U was $150, it would be in a class by itself and its technical deficiencies wouldn't be called into question nearly as much. Because heck, it still looks fantastic and for $150 you could have access to Mario, Zelda, etc. - why not? It's an impulse buy at that point.
So don't misread any of this, I want Nintendo to succeed and I want them to stay relevant in the console market for years to come. But in order for that to happen, they're going to have to stop relying on gimmicks and instead focus on what they're best at - making AAA games that appeal to all ages.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 14, 2014, 05:00:10 pm
While I hate Microsoft for including the Kinect with every Xbox One, I understand why, as more companies are more likely to utilize it since everyone has it. Same thing for the Gamepad on the Wii U as if I think they dropped the Gamepad off, it would benefit the system price wise, but then people are gonna be less likely to utilize it for games since it isn't packaged in and that is really the biggest selling point of the Wii U I think.
Then again, I am the 2DS owner since it was cheaper and I don't care about the 3D lol
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 20, 2014, 06:48:39 pm
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate is now on sale for 20 bucks (18 if you are a member) at Gamestop right now. Online and instore.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 08, 2014, 04:53:10 am
Here's a new way that Nintendo is gonna reel in more collectors lol
Looks to basically be the same idea as Skylanders, but isn't just for a single game, some how interacting with multiple games across the Wii U and 3DS. I certainly like the novelty of it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: dreama1 on May 08, 2014, 07:42:34 pm
gg I told you so. Looks like your wii u sega x32 investment is safe as can be lol.
Told us what? Did you read the article? These aren't going to be Wii U replacements. They'll probably do like what they did with the Wii, where they released a version that was smaller and had no internet, but was only 100 bucks.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: dreama1 on May 08, 2014, 08:05:10 pm
gg I told you so. Looks like your wii u sega x32 investment is safe as can be lol.
Told us what? Did you read the article? These aren't going to be Wii U replacements.
No maybe not. But a new system means even less games for the wii u. Really looks like there making the same classic mistakes of sega, and there 32x it had the exact same market premise as i've just read. The x32 was a budget release for the sega saturn just a painful observation looking like history really does repeat.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 08, 2014, 08:17:26 pm
No maybe not. But a new system means even less games for the wii u. Really looks like there making the same classic mistakes of sega, and there 32x it had the exact same market premise as i've just read. The x32 was a budget release for the sega saturn just a painful observation looking like history really does repeat.
It's not the same at all though. This is them tapping into a new market for themselves, a new vein of income for themselves. They realize they can't do that with a more pricier console as well, so I assume they'll be making essentially a Wii U Lite for these specific countries. It's not likely to be something we see show up here, hurt Wii U development at all, or even be something we pay attention to unless whatever this console is gets an interesting exclusive for it, of which there's no saying it couldn't ever be ported overseas. We still need more information, but it seems like you are pretty off base with your observations since we are looking at the same information here.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: dreama1 on May 08, 2014, 08:37:55 pm
No maybe not. But a new system means even less games for the wii u. Really looks like there making the same classic mistakes of sega, and there 32x it had the exact same market premise as i've just read. The x32 was a budget release for the sega saturn just a painful observation looking like history really does repeat.
It's not the same at all though. This is them tapping into a new market for themselves, a new vein of income for themselves. They realize they can't do that with a more pricier console as well, so I assume they'll be making essentially a Wii U Lite for these specific countries. It's not likely to be something we see show up here, hurt Wii U development at all, or even be something we pay attention to unless whatever this console is gets an interesting exclusive for it, of which there's no saying it couldn't ever be ported overseas. We still need more information, but it seems like you are pretty off base with your observations since we are looking at the same information here.
It's getting it's own exclusive games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 08, 2014, 09:41:43 pm
No maybe not. But a new system means even less games for the wii u. Really looks like there making the same classic mistakes of sega, and there 32x it had the exact same market premise as i've just read. The x32 was a budget release for the sega saturn just a painful observation looking like history really does repeat.
It's not the same at all though. This is them tapping into a new market for themselves, a new vein of income for themselves. They realize they can't do that with a more pricier console as well, so I assume they'll be making essentially a Wii U Lite for these specific countries. It's not likely to be something we see show up here, hurt Wii U development at all, or even be something we pay attention to unless whatever this console is gets an interesting exclusive for it, of which there's no saying it couldn't ever be ported overseas. We still need more information, but it seems like you are pretty off base with your observations since we are looking at the same information here.
It's getting it's own exclusive games.
Sure, but we don't know what that will entail, we don't know who is working on it, and nothing was shown to be that this would be cutting into what they are already working on and is simply them expanding into a new market which is them growing, not sacrificing.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: dreama1 on May 08, 2014, 09:55:17 pm
No maybe not. But a new system means even less games for the wii u. Really looks like there making the same classic mistakes of sega, and there 32x it had the exact same market premise as i've just read. The x32 was a budget release for the sega saturn just a painful observation looking like history really does repeat.
It's not the same at all though. This is them tapping into a new market for themselves, a new vein of income for themselves. They realize they can't do that with a more pricier console as well, so I assume they'll be making essentially a Wii U Lite for these specific countries. It's not likely to be something we see show up here, hurt Wii U development at all, or even be something we pay attention to unless whatever this console is gets an interesting exclusive for it, of which there's no saying it couldn't ever be ported overseas. We still need more information, but it seems like you are pretty off base with your observations since we are looking at the same information here.
It's getting it's own exclusive games.
Sure, but we don't know what that will entail, we don't know who is working on it, and nothing was shown to be that this would be cutting into what they are already working on and is simply them expanding into a new market which is them growing, not sacrificing.
The guy who said they're still operating like it's the 80s no kidding. It seems to me like when they grabbed the american market with the NES, there trying to do the same in china saying there video game ban has been lifted. But this doesn't sound like a wii u light the fact is that it has it's own games is baffling.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 08, 2014, 10:06:16 pm
The guy who said they're still operating like it's the 80s no kidding. It seems to me like when they grabbed the american market with the NES, there trying to do the same in china saying there video game ban has been lifted. But this doesn't sound like a wii u light the fact is that it has it's own games is baffling.
Why wouldn't it just be essentially like a Wii U Lite? It said in the article they are looking to target lower income people, which requires a cheaper, more affordable, system. You basically remove the fancy elements like the game pad, give it a regular controller, drop the price way low, and then do a bunch of game porting from their back catalog of hits and they won't be breaking in the bank for stepping into a new market to try and grab a new customer base.
I'm unsure of the game aspect myself, but we'll just have to wait for new information.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: spac316 on May 09, 2014, 11:18:01 pm
Hmm...interesting.
Anyway, I could see the Wii U as the next Gamecube, being that it was a good system but it was in last place to it's competitors at the time but it still was profitable and it had a strong first party line up of classic games. It certainly is doing better than the Virtual Boy!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 09, 2014, 11:24:02 pm
Anyway, I could see the Wii U as the next Gamecube, being that it was a good system but it was in last place to it's competitors at the time but it still was profitable and it had a strong first party line up of classic games. It certainly is doing better than the Virtual Boy!
Yeah even if they can get into the black with the Wii U, it's never gonna take off, it's too late to suddenly gain steam I think. I'll still enjoy it though, there's still like 4 really good looking games coming out this year for it and they haven't even released the big Zelda title or really even the proper Mario title yet.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: burningdoom on May 10, 2014, 12:27:31 am
they haven't even released the big Zelda title or really even the proper Mario title yet.
Wouldn't that be Super Mario 3D World? Or for the more traditional: New Super Mario U?
Nah, Super Mario 3D World is more just like an extension of the New Super Mario Stuff and a sequel to 3D Land on the 3DS. Really, it just feels like they took what was gonna be a 3DS sequel and then brought it onto the Wii U cause they really needed a big Mario game lol I don't feel like it's had its Sunshine or Galaxy yet.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: teck on May 11, 2014, 02:15:12 pm
they haven't even released the big Zelda title or really even the proper Mario title yet.
Wouldn't that be Super Mario 3D World? Or for the more traditional: New Super Mario U?
I agree with this^ Both of these games are great fully fledged Mario titles.... I enjoyed them both a lot....
They are proper Mario's for sure, but they aren't the ones that kinda lead to Mario doing different or new stuff like 64, Sunshine, or Galaxy. New Super Mario, and the 3D series, are very safe, standard, Mario games. Absolutely fun to play, but they don't bring much new excitement to the series.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: MJMaranan on May 11, 2014, 10:01:40 pm
As far as E3 goes, I want to see the Legend Of Zelda that they're currently developing.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: argyle on May 11, 2014, 10:51:27 pm
I wanna see what Retro is doing now, and I'm hoping it's a new Metroid (tho a non-Prime game would be preferable). Of course, I wouldn't complain about a new IP from Nintendo or one of their first-party devs either.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: dreama1 on May 13, 2014, 02:10:06 am
I wanna see what Retro is doing now, and I'm hoping it's a new Metroid (tho a non-Prime game would be preferable). Of course, I wouldn't complain about a new IP from Nintendo or one of their first-party devs either.
New IP's fingers crossed. No point flogging a dead horse.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: blipcs76 on May 13, 2014, 10:41:48 am
I would say that this E3 is by far the most critical one in Nintendo's history. They've essentially lost everyone but the Nintendo fanboys at this point, so they need to do something amazing to rebuild faith in the company. Seeing a new Zelda or Metroid would be great, but they need something more. They need an Uncharted/Gears of War/Infamous. They need to show they're going to expand beyond their safe, family-friendly franchises. They need to show some innovative uses of the gamepad that can't be replicated elsewhere and they need to show they're serious about getting 3rd parties on board. The Wii U is essentially a first-party machine at this point, so if it's your only console you're going to miss out on most of what the rest of the gaming world is experiencing.
I'm a huge Nintendo fan, but it's hard to watch them be so oblivious to the realities of modern gaming. The casual market you built with the Wii has completely moved on to tablets and phones. You're not getting them back -- you have to focus on getting gamers rather than grandmas to invest in your brand. That's going to take you breaking away from the blue ocean strategy that worked for you once.
Here's some of what I would do to 'fix' Nintendo:
- More exclusivity. The Wii U needs more games like X and Bayonetta 2. These games will encourage gamers to pick up Wii U as a second console. - More 2nd party devs. Nintendo desperately needs games, so they should offload this task to companies that can branch out and deliver something different. - Bring some surprises. Unveil a new Fatal Frame, or if they can get the rights to it -- Eternal Darkness. A new ED would be a huge deal. - New franchises. Nintendo needs some new IPs. Pikmin is pretty much the last new core franchise they've introduced and that was a decade ago. - Stop chasing casuals. That market is gone.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 13, 2014, 03:24:30 pm
Announcing Fatal Frame for western release on the Wii U, showing off how you can use the camera with the gamepad would be awesome. That should be quite enticing to the horror crowd I think.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: dreama1 on May 14, 2014, 06:36:23 pm
I would say that this E3 is by far the most critical one in Nintendo's history. They've essentially lost everyone but the Nintendo fanboys at this point, so they need to do something amazing to rebuild faith in the company. Seeing a new Zelda or Metroid would be great, but they need something more. They need an Uncharted/Gears of War/Infamous. They need to show they're going to expand beyond their safe, family-friendly franchises. They need to show some innovative uses of the gamepad that can't be replicated elsewhere and they need to show they're serious about getting 3rd parties on board. The Wii U is essentially a first-party machine at this point, so if it's your only console you're going to miss out on most of what the rest of the gaming world is experiencing.
I'm a huge Nintendo fan, but it's hard to watch them be so oblivious to the realities of modern gaming. The casual market you built with the Wii has completely moved on to tablets and phones. You're not getting them back -- you have to focus on getting gamers rather than grandmas to invest in your brand. That's going to take you breaking away from the blue ocean strategy that worked for you once.
Here's some of what I would do to 'fix' Nintendo:
- More exclusivity. The Wii U needs more games like X and Bayonetta 2. These games will encourage gamers to pick up Wii U as a second console. - More 2nd party devs. Nintendo desperately needs games, so they should offload this task to companies that can branch out and deliver something different. - Bring some surprises. Unveil a new Fatal Frame, or if they can get the rights to it -- Eternal Darkness. A new ED would be a huge deal. - New franchises. Nintendo needs some new IPs. Pikmin is pretty much the last new core franchise they've introduced and that was a decade ago. - Stop chasing casuals. That market is gone.
Yeah at there fannying around with a new console in poorer countries is also worrying like there no longer in touch with reality.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 05, 2014, 09:00:01 pm
This one is completely unconfirmed, but there could be a new Mario game on either the 3DS or Wii U that allows you to create your 2D Mario game, essentially Mario mixed with Little Big Planet I would guess, basically taking Mario hacks mainstream I would put it lol
Announcing Fatal Frame for western release on the Wii U, showing off how you can use the camera with the gamepad would be awesome. That should be quite enticing to the horror crowd I think.
But japan's version is going to be better.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii U!!!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 24, 2014, 01:19:20 am
Announcing Fatal Frame for western release on the Wii U, showing off how you can use the camera with the gamepad would be awesome. That should be quite enticing to the horror crowd I think.