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Title: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 05, 2015, 01:47:04 pm
Ever play a game or games that everyone raved about, but you just couldn't stand it? Games that won Game of the Year awards, scored at the top of the charts, sold millions of copies and were praised by reviewers endlessly? I can name a couple.
Super Mario 64. I hate this game. It started with the obnoxious controller that the left "handle" dug painfully into the back of my hand and I could only play for an hour at a time tops. Then there was the crap camera that everyone seems to praise, assigned to the "C" buttons. Next was that they took the huge diversity in the levels from past Mario titles, and now you kept repeating the same levels to find stupid stars. Ugh. I hate Hate HATE this game. Not a Mario hater here. Loved Super Mario World and thought Super Mario Sunshine was pretty cool.
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. Oh, how I loathe this game. Stood in line at Walmart, making myself late for work to snag the gold covered special edition that was ridiculously priced at $79.99. Oh, what a treasure I held in my hands! I felt like a king all that night at work, with the Zelda theme buzzing through my mind and dreams of the moment I get home, carefully slice the plastic open with an exacto knife and put that gold baby in my N64! And that's what I did. But instead of being greeted by that familiar Zelda tune I loved so much, I heard music that sounded like "Beep, boop, beep, boop...boop boop boop! Beep boop, be-be boop boop boop boop!" and this annoying as hell fairy that just kept repeating "Hey! Listen! Hey! Listen!" After an hour, I shut it off, my heart in my stomach and vowed to pick it up after I got a few hours of sleep. It had to get better. Right? Well, nope. It didn't get better. More Hey Listens and Beep-Boops and annoying chickens. And a stupid Deku tree. To this day, I loathe that game. And it's not that I'm a Zelda hater. I loved Link to the Past and Wind Waker. Ocarina though...ugh. It made me despise Zelda games so bad that I wouldn't even play Majora's Mask because I was so pissed.
How about you guys?
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: burningdoom on February 05, 2015, 01:55:34 pm
^ I am so glad I am not the only one with Ocarina of Time. I've tried, I've really tried to enjoy that game because I freaking ADORE the 2D Zelda titles. But I just couldn't get into it. The touchy thumbstick made some maneuvers hard to pull off, the game was really big and empty so it seemed like you were doing a lot more walking than gaming. And what in the hell is up with the stealth parts in a Zelda game?!
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: amauriel on February 05, 2015, 02:11:07 pm
Mine's gotta be Mario, in general. I loved the Mario games when I was a kid, all the way through Super Mario 64 and I loved Super Mario Sunshine. Some time after that though, it just felt so repetitive. I can't get into the New Super Mario Bros. games at all. I have Galaxy and I found it OK but I didn't bother with the second one.
I don't hate Mario. Love the Mario & Luigi games. But the Mario platformers just don't do it for me at all.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 05, 2015, 02:18:53 pm
Mine's gotta be Mario, in general. I loved the Mario games when I was a kid, all the way through Super Mario 64 and I loved Super Mario Sunshine. Some time after that though, it just felt so repetitive. I can't get into the New Super Mario Bros. games at all. I have Galaxy and I found it OK but I didn't bother with the second one.
I don't hate Mario. Love the Mario & Luigi games. But the Mario platformers just don't do it for me at all.
I thought Galaxy was boring and I quickly quit playing it. Never bothered with Galaxy 2. On the other hand, I found the New Super Mario Bros. games to be a breath of fresh air. Yeah, it's the same "save the princess" gameplay, but the levels are fun and imaginative and the controls are spot-on. My youngest daughter and I played all the way through Super Mario 3D World together and I thought it was the best 3D Mario game made.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 05, 2015, 02:19:30 pm
^ I am so glad I am not the only one with Ocarina of Time. I've tried, I've really tried to enjoy that game because I freaking ADORE the 2D Zelda titles. But I just couldn't get into it. The touchy thumbstick made some maneuvers hard to pull off, the game was really big and empty so it seemed like you were doing a lot more walking than gaming. And what in the hell is up with the stealth parts in a Zelda game?!
You are not the only one. ;)
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: kashell on February 05, 2015, 02:26:29 pm
I wouldn't say "hate" for any video game but I have a strong dislike for the following:
Final Fantasy X. An annoying cast, a boring battle system, and cut scenes that cannot be skipped. Also, the Sphere Grid is redundant and stupid. I couldn't stand this game and it's the only numbered FF that I look at with some disgust. I only made it about 10 to 15 hours in FFXII, but at least that game had a great cast and story, plus fantastic music.
I'm also another person who doesn't like modern, 3D Zelda titles. Ocarina of Time is overrated. I never tried MM. Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess looked gimmicky and dull.
I don't care for Street Fighter. Capcom, unfortunately, dominates the fighting game market. I think SF titles are dry.
The next couple of games/series are ones that I don't necessarily dislike. I say this because I only played but a few of them and know that the rest of the games I haven't tried wouldn't adhere to my taste. So, sure, I dislike them but it's nothing compared to the amount of loathing I have for their fans.
God of War. The entire series has been made with the dude-bro in mind. "BLOOD! B00BS!" There are a few fun boss fights but most of the time there are shoddy controls with a protagonist I cannot stand. Oh, and getting to have sex with women and getting paid for it is ridiculously chauvinistic to me.
Call of Duty/Medal of Honor. See God of War, sans b00bs and boss fights.
Madden/NHL/Baseball/Any other sport Everything. See above again, only without the blood. I'd rather play a sport in real life, anyway. I guess my dislike for these games stems from my disdain of spectating sports.
Candy Crush. "You're a gamer?! OMG ME TOO! I play Candy Crush!"
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I'm sure that there are more since my taste in games is so fabulous esoteric, but those are the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. As you can see, my dislike is for the fans and not the actual games.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 05, 2015, 02:26:47 pm
Another game/series that for the life of me I can't fathom why it gets so much love is Half-Life. People just revere that game and to even speak negatively about them or their creator Gabe Newell is to invite the wrath of internet fanboys.
I keep hearing people talk about how great the story and atmosphere is and what a great protagonist Gordon Freeman is. Here's my take. Gordon doesn't talk. I have no way to relate to him as a character. He looks like a computer geek who is only missing his pocket protector. His mainstay weapon is a crowbar. The game starts out with a reactor accident that opens a tear into another dimension. Through this dimension, little crabs come through and attach themselves to people's heads. The graphics suck. The storyline sucks. I felt no relation to Gordon Freeman nor did I feel like I was Gordon Freeman. I had little interest in Half-Life 2, but reluctantly played it at a friends behest. I finished it. It was ok. But it wasn't anything special. Again with crappy graphics and a character I couldn't relate to. More crab-head zombies.
Basically to me, Half-Life as a series did nothing to add to and/or expand the 1st person shooter genre. They are ok to average games.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: devancowan on February 05, 2015, 02:45:53 pm
I'm probably to get hate on for this but everyone seems to love FF7 and FF13 and I hate them.. I just could never get into either one of them! As well as the halo series. Granted I'v never played the original halo games since I never had an xbox. However now that I have an Xbone I got the master chief collection and don't see what all the hype is about. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the game is horrible but it just seems like another shooter with an average campaign.
Bring on the hate! ;)
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 05, 2015, 02:59:15 pm
I'm probably to get hate on for this but everyone seems to love FF7 and FF13 and I hate them.. I just could never get into either one of them! As well as the halo series. Granted I'v never played the original halo games since I never had an xbox. However now that I have an Xbone I got the master chief collection and don't see what all the hype is about. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the game is horrible but it just seems like another shooter with an average campaign.
Bring on the hate! ;)
No hate from me. Everyone has an opinion and we are just voicing them. :) The draw for me with Halo was the lore they created and the universe full of all these interesting alien races. Finding out that humans had spread across the stars millions of years ago, encountered and defeated the Flood. Then, weakened from their war on the Flood, the Forerunners de-evolved the human race and deposited those who were left as savages on Earth. Pretty cool if you delve into the history.
Just now playing Final Fantasy XIII so I'll reserve my judgement. I've been having fun with it, but it's nothing mindblowing either. Final Fantasy VII on the other hand? Them's fightin' words! 8)
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: devancowan on February 05, 2015, 03:26:00 pm
I'm probably to get hate on for this but everyone seems to love FF7 and FF13 and I hate them.. I just could never get into either one of them! As well as the halo series. Granted I'v never played the original halo games since I never had an xbox. However now that I have an Xbone I got the master chief collection and don't see what all the hype is about. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the game is horrible but it just seems like another shooter with an average campaign.
Bring on the hate! ;)
No hate from me. Everyone has an opinion and we are just voicing them. :) The draw for me with Halo was the lore they created and the universe full of all these interesting alien races. Finding out that humans had spread across the stars millions of years ago, encountered and defeated the Flood. Then, weakened from their war on the Flood, the Forerunners de-evolved the human race and deposited those who were left as savages on Earth. Pretty cool if you delve into the history.
Just now playing Final Fantasy XIII so I'll reserve my judgement. I've been having fun with it, but it's nothing mindblowing either. Final Fantasy VII on the other hand? Them's fightin' words! 8)
I figured you enjoyed it since its your avatar! aha ;)
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: foxhack on February 05, 2015, 03:29:57 pm
Counter-Strike.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 05, 2015, 03:36:49 pm
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: haloofthesun on February 05, 2015, 04:03:23 pm
Half Life 2: Talk about overrated. This is one of the most boring games I've ever played, and that's coming from someone who has played Wii Music. PC elitists proudly tout this as the holiest of holy PC games, all hail gaben, messiah of video games. If that's the case, I'm glad I'm a console peasant.
Super Mario Galaxy: Both of them. Okay, I don't hate them - they're good games! Objectively it's hard to say they're not. But the amount of sheer blind praise these two games get (mostly the second one) annoys me to the point I never want to play them again. They're both so linear, yet they get praised for their "openness". Well guess what? Just because Mario gets shot through space from one tiny planet to another doesn't make the game open. You're still following a very intended path. It's called an illusion. What makes this worse is Sunshine and 64 before it. They both had large open hubs connecting all of the game worlds together allowing you to largely do things in the order you want. But then the Galaxy games decide to restrict that largely. There's still a hub, but it's very small and there's no reason to explore it. You still have the ability to mostly choose what order you want to do things, but that's restricted some too. Fun right?! And yet people clamor for Super Mario Galaxy 3 instead of a better - original - Mario game. The music is fantastic, though.
Xenoblade Chronicles: I love RPGs but I hate MMOs. Actually, I'm finding lately that I don't like many modern RPGs, but that's another story. Xenoblade plays essentially like an offline MMO. Sorta. I really just can't get into it. Also the music is probably the most overrated part about the game. Yeah, deal with it.
Final Fantasy X: Speaking of modern RPGs... I absolutely loathe this game. Annoying characters, stupid plot full of large holes, subpar music, and the Sphere Grid is SquareEnix's beginning of introducing the illusion of freedom in "customizing" your characters in the Final Fantasy series. But hey, at least the battle system is good. So let's never do that again except in the spinoff!
Final Fantasy XIII: Not universally loved, but strangely this game is getting more support these days than it used to. And it really shouldn't. It deserves all the hate it gets and then some. This has all the complaints I have from FFX except multiplied by 1,000. Every time Snow appears on screen and talks it just makes me want to jam a screwdriver through my ear to end the pain. This is quite literally the worst game I've ever played. At least the graphics are nice.
Pokemon: I kind of get it, but c'mon. Everyone goes on about how every Call of Duty game is just a rehash (which they are, and Call of Duty sucks too) but if you say that about Pokemon then it's suddenly HOW DARE YOU SLANDER THE NAME OF OUR BELOVED! In fact, it's more of a rehash than Call of Duty and it's worse because they release 2 games at once and people actually buy both of them. But okay, that's your choice if you do that. I'll be the first to admit I have bought and enjoyed blatant cash grabs and rehashes. That doesn't change the fact that the Pokemon series is dull and not fun in any way at all, though.
And then these games/series, because I'm tired of explaining why I hate all of this: LittleBigPlanet, Grand Theft Auto, LEAGUE OF LEGENDS, Mass Effect, Halo, Monster Hunter.
Oh yeah, and Sonic the Hedgehog 2! It isn't a bad game, and really most of the classic Sonic games aren't, but it also isn't very good. I suppose I just have a problem with games that encourage you to go as fast as possible but also to expect you to also collect rings, power ups, and to not run into walls every 3 seconds. Really it's just a mediocre game.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: indenton on February 05, 2015, 06:39:31 pm
I haven't played any other games in the Star Ocean series, but I picked up 'Till the end of time' a while back. The game gets off to a very slow start, before you get to do anything. Navigating through the menus with the battle segments takes some getting used to, meanwhile I felt like the attack input is imprecise. After a while, I was able to somewhat efficiently using just a small portion of the dauntingly complex battle system.
But then an AI character joined the party and all of my abilities went to hell out of sheer confusion.
Then just a few asinine field controls later, I shut off the game and have yet to return, it really did leave a bad taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: desocietas on February 05, 2015, 07:38:04 pm
I haven't played any other games in the Star Ocean series, but I picked up 'Till the end of time' a while back. The game gets off to a very slow start, before you get to do anything. Navigating through the menus with the battle segments takes some getting used to, meanwhile I felt like the attack input is imprecise. After a while, I was able to somewhat efficiently using just a small portion of the dauntingly complex battle system.
But then an AI character joined the party and all of my abilities went to hell out of sheer confusion.
Then just a few asinine field controls later, I shut off the game and have yet to return, it really did leave a bad taste in my mouth.
I could see that - I played a short bit of TTEOT (I love Second Story) and was pretty off-put by just the look and movement of the game to start with.
I also wonder how much of differences in opinion time plays into it... I loved Second Story and Tales of Symphonia and Abyss when I was younger, but part of me wonders if I won't like them as much now that I'm older... Will I still have the same patience for some things? Will I still love them as much (or more) than I did back then?
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: Oheao on February 05, 2015, 08:47:33 pm
I cringed reading this. Maybe I'm biased as FFX is my favourite game, but the music is a huge reason why it is for me. I just love the music so much in that game (talking about the original versions, not the remastered ones).
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: argyle on February 05, 2015, 08:57:55 pm
Ever play a game or games that everyone raved about, but you just couldn't stand it? Games that won Game of the Year awards, scored at the top of the charts, sold millions of copies and were praised by reviewers endlessly? I can name a couple.
Super Mario 64. I hate this game. It started with the obnoxious controller that the left "handle" dug painfully into the back of my hand and I could only play for an hour at a time tops. Then there was the crap camera that everyone seems to praise, assigned to the "C" buttons. Next was that they took the huge diversity in the levels from past Mario titles, and now you kept repeating the same levels to find stupid stars. Ugh. I hate Hate HATE this game. Not a Mario hater here. Loved Super Mario World and thought Super Mario Sunshine was pretty cool.
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. Oh, how I loathe this game. Stood in line at Walmart, making myself late for work to snag the gold covered special edition that was ridiculously priced at $79.99. Oh, what a treasure I held in my hands! I felt like a king all that night at work, with the Zelda theme buzzing through my mind and dreams of the moment I get home, carefully slice the plastic open with an exacto knife and put that gold baby in my N64! And that's what I did. But instead of being greeted by that familiar Zelda tune I loved so much, I heard music that sounded like "Beep, boop, beep, boop...boop boop boop! Beep boop, be-be boop boop boop boop!" and this annoying as hell fairy that just kept repeating "Hey! Listen! Hey! Listen!" After an hour, I shut it off, my heart in my stomach and vowed to pick it up after I got a few hours of sleep. It had to get better. Right? Well, nope. It didn't get better. More Hey Listens and Beep-Boops and annoying chickens. And a stupid Deku tree. To this day, I loathe that game. And it's not that I'm a Zelda hater. I loved Link to the Past and Wind Waker. Ocarina though...ugh. It made me despise Zelda games so bad that I wouldn't even play Majora's Mask because I was so pissed.
How about you guys?
I 100% agree with both of these, they were going to be my picks as soon as I read the thread title. For pretty much the exact same reasons you stated. I will say that Majora's Mask is amazing tho - don't let the blandness of Ocarina put you off from what's probably the most creative game in the series.
God of War. The entire series has been made with the dude-bro in mind. "BLOOD! B00BS!" There are a few fun boss fights but most of the time there are shoddy controls with a protagonist I cannot stand. Oh, and getting to have sex with women and getting paid for it is ridiculously chauvinistic to me.
Kratos has to be the most unlikable protagonist in gaming today. Very difficult to play a game when I kinda WANT my character to die.
Another game/series that for the life of me I can't fathom why it gets so much love is Half-Life. People just revere that game and to even speak negatively about them or their creator Gabe Newell is to invite the wrath of internet fanboys.
The Half-Life games don't stand the test of time IMO, you had to play them when they first released. They are some of those games that aren't great by today's standards, but introduced a lot of elements that influenced pretty much every FPS that came afterwards.
Xenoblade Chronicles: I love RPGs but I hate MMOs. Actually, I'm finding lately that I don't like many modern RPGs, but that's another story. Xenoblade plays essentially like an offline MMO. Sorta. I really just can't get into it. Also the music is probably the most overrated part about the game. Yeah, deal with it.
I haven't played any other games in the Star Ocean series, but I picked up 'Till the end of time' a while back. The game gets off to a very slow start, before you get to do anything. Navigating through the menus with the battle segments takes some getting used to, meanwhile I felt like the attack input is imprecise. After a while, I was able to somewhat efficiently using just a small portion of the dauntingly complex battle system.
But then an AI character joined the party and all of my abilities went to hell out of sheer confusion.
Then just a few asinine field controls later, I shut off the game and have yet to return, it really did leave a bad taste in my mouth.
TTEoT is a hot mess. Some of the most broken party AI I've ever had to deal with in a game, an absolutely retarded plot with a "twist" that will make you want to snap the disk in half and tons of backtracking. Blech, I've always found it more surprising that anyone actually LIKED that game. ???
So to add one that hasn't been mentioned, I'd have to say Shadow of the Colossus. My God, what a boring game that was. It wasn't artsy, it was empty. It felt like a beta. Controls were pretty janky too, including that stupid, stupid horse. I actually cheered when that thing went over the cliff. No joke, stood up & cheered. Thing is, I really enjoyed ICO because it was an actual game - there were puzzles, enemies - y'know, stuff to DO in a game. Not riding a brain dead horse across emptiness to get to the next janky boss fight. Bah. >:(
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: bikingjahuty on February 05, 2015, 09:04:53 pm
I will preface this by saying that I do not "hate" any of these games, but did failed to see the appeal in them and was just unable to get into them at all.
Earthbound: I had really high hopes for this game, I mean it goes for nearly $200 loose and it isn't even a rare game. Tried for about 8 hours to get into the story, characters and the game in general and it really disappointed on all fronts. It seriously left me wondering how it can have such a rabid fanbase and why it is so highly spoken of, and even more so, highly sought after.
Metal Gear Solid: I've tried several times to get into this game, but every time I am left with the conclusion that I am just not a huge fan of stealth games. The only Metal Gear game I've been able to get into is Rising, which is the black sheep of the series, at least for core Metal Gear fan.
Uncharted: This game frustrates the hell out of me and just overall felt very generic and underwhelming. Great voice acting and the story is okay, but just overall failed to see what all the fuss was about.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: argyle on February 05, 2015, 09:10:48 pm
Uncharted: This game frustrates the hell out of me and just overall felt very generic and underwhelming. Great voice acting and the story is okay, but just overall failed to see what all the fuss was about.
Just curious, have you only played the first one or have you tried either of the sequels? They made massive improvements with the series with the second one.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: bikingjahuty on February 05, 2015, 09:22:41 pm
Uncharted: This game frustrates the hell out of me and just overall felt very generic and underwhelming. Great voice acting and the story is okay, but just overall failed to see what all the fuss was about.
Just curious, have you only played the first one or have you tried either of the sequels? They made massive improvements with the series with the second one.
Just the first one, what improvements did they make in the sequels?
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: atarileaf on February 05, 2015, 09:26:33 pm
Mine's gotta be Mario, in general. I loved the Mario games when I was a kid, all the way through Super Mario 64 and I loved Super Mario Sunshine. Some time after that though, it just felt so repetitive. I can't get into the New Super Mario Bros. games at all. I have Galaxy and I found it OK but I didn't bother with the second one.
I don't hate Mario. Love the Mario & Luigi games. But the Mario platformers just don't do it for me at all.
I'm in the same boat, only difference is I've NEVER like the mario games, other than his original appearances in the donkey kong games, the mario bros arcade game, etc. When I got my first NES I loathed SMB but played the hell outta duck hunt. Still feel the same way. Don't care for smb style platformers. I don't like them as a genre at all
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: argyle on February 05, 2015, 10:46:17 pm
Uncharted: This game frustrates the hell out of me and just overall felt very generic and underwhelming. Great voice acting and the story is okay, but just overall failed to see what all the fuss was about.
Just curious, have you only played the first one or have you tried either of the sequels? They made massive improvements with the series with the second one.
Just the first one, what improvements did they make in the sequels?
The first one is pretty much just a straight-forward third person shooter. With the sequels there's a ton more variety, much more interesting characters / story (some of the characters are the same but they are better written & more fleshed out)...it's just better on every level. Now it may still not be your kind of game, but I'm just saying don't judge the series until you at least try out the second one. If you still don't like it, you can safely say the series isn't for you. :)
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: kingrat101 on February 05, 2015, 10:46:31 pm
Mortal Kombat- First off let me state that I did like MK9, that was a pretty damn good fighting game, however every Mk game has been utter shit, very clunky fighting games that have no rhythm to them at all. Not to mention the AI in MK2 and 3 is insane. I know fighting games are best played with another person however if you haven't learned to exploit the game you are going to be dominated. As a big time fighting game fan I tried so many times to get into the MK scene since it is so huge now but it's frustrating. I prefer SNK and Capcom over MK all the way.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: bikingjahuty on February 05, 2015, 10:57:43 pm
Uncharted: This game frustrates the hell out of me and just overall felt very generic and underwhelming. Great voice acting and the story is okay, but just overall failed to see what all the fuss was about.
Just curious, have you only played the first one or have you tried either of the sequels? They made massive improvements with the series with the second one.
Just the first one, what improvements did they make in the sequels?
The first one is pretty much just a straight-forward third person shooter. With the sequels there's a ton more variety, much more interesting characters / story (some of the characters are the same but they are better written & more fleshed out)...it's just better on every level. Now it may still not be your kind of game, but I'm just saying don't judge the series until you at least try out the second one. If you still don't like it, you can safely say the series isn't for you. :)
i will give it a shot :).
I don't own it, but I see it often for $5 or less so I'll pick it up next time I run across it.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: redblaze57 on February 05, 2015, 11:03:14 pm
Wouldn't say hate but Dark Souls. I just don't like RPG's where the premise is to be as hard as f#@%ing possible. Not to mention the controls just felt off to me. Also Elder Scrolls I can see why people like them I just can't get into them for some reason.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: thewelshman on February 06, 2015, 02:37:01 am
I'm going to have to go with the Halo series. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of FPS games and a lot of it has to do with I don't like playing online very much, but it kills me sometimes how unrelentingly some of the Halo fanboys/girls can be. My coworker, and friend, speaks like it's the gospel of all gaming. I've played them, but I usually end up getting bored after an hour or so and just can't seem to keep up a good gaming pace.
I also have to mention that I'm a big Gears of War series fan, and a lot of Halo fans dog on it as well.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 06, 2015, 03:08:30 am
I will also preface that I don't "hate" these games, hate is reserved for actually bad games. Most games brought up in this thread aren't even bad games, but I definitely have my issues with these.
Super Mario Galaxy - I was such a huge fan of Super Mario 64, still one of my favorite Mario games, and while I didn't like Super Mario Sunshine a ton, I didn't like Super Mario Galaxy much at all. The change to space and little planetoids, the cut back of the hub world, and add in motion control, which is a problem in most every motion controlled game, and I just don't like it. Super Mario Galaxy 2 took it to the next level and I think is the downturn of the 3D Mario games. All I hear is that Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a work of art and 3D Super Mario World is the best Mario has ever been, but I don't want that game. I don't want a rehashed Super Mario 3. They already did that in the rehashed New Super Mario Bros games. Now there isn't even much difference between them other than one being in 2D and another being in 3D. Again, not bad games, but I don't like the direction they took. The 3D games should be a more separate experience form the classic 2D ones.
The Witcher 2 - Tons of people rave about this action RPG. I find it clumsy. It's got some alright ideas, but the controls are unintuitive, the UI is clunky, it just doesn't work for me. I made it about half way through the game and then just got bored. I tried again recently and didn't make it out of the prologue. I am still interested in The Witcher 3, I love an open world action RPG, so if they can improve it, I'll be happy. I want to like the series cause it has a cool developer lol
Half-Life 2 - I never got the hype with this game. I beat it, I thought it was okay, but others made it out to be the second coming of FPS gaming. Even saying things like Ravenholm is gaming landmark for a horror-like area. No. I could probably come up with a dozen other games with areas more terrifying than that place. It's a competent shooter, very bare bones, the gravity gun is cool, I'll give them that, but I think the story is actually pretty boring. The setting and concept is cool, but I never found it that engaging. I played all there was for it and I'll play Half-Life 3 when ever they decide to actually release the game (Come on, it's been seven years since episode 2 was released. They could've released Half-Life 3 and 4 in that time frame), but I don't think there's anything really special with it.
Monster Hunter - While I wouldn't call this one "universally loved", it has it's very rabid and devoted fanbase. I don't see why it still does. I tried playing it once a long while back on the PS2. I wanted to like it cause of this idea of fighting large monsters with big huge swords and everything kinda had a weight to it, but looking at the games now, I have to wonder why people are so hooked to it still. I guess it's the same as Pokemon, in that they don't care that the game has basically been the same since it started, they just want more. I played the Wii U version recently and it felt like I was playing a PS2 game. I don't feel like it's been updated since then. A lot of the UI element and such is rather clunky and dated too. Maybe I'm abit wrong about that part, but that kind of stuff can be an instant turn off if it isn't handled well and I still feel it hasn't changed me since it's early days. It's why I'm excited for Xenoblade Chronicles X. It honestly feels like much of the same style of game, but will have RPG elements and a cool scifi setting. Seems better to me.
I have a couple more I might add later on if I feel like thinking about them lol
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: koemo1 on February 06, 2015, 03:22:50 am
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate xd
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: psydswipe on February 06, 2015, 05:46:31 am
I could probably come up with a huge list, though part of that is many mainstream video game websites rate the majority of games too high which leads me to think most games are overrated by the media. User reviews on most websites aren't any good either. Also, I play a lot of games single-player so if a game is loved because of multi-player that's often lost on me. The one game I've played a lot of multi-player of is the Tribes series which was made for online play. Just about any other shooter I've tried online pales in comparison; I simply cannot comprehend the love for Halo or Call of Duty's multi-player modes. Even the worst Tribes game puts all console online multi-player shooters to shame and many PC ones as well.
As someone else mentioned, Kratos is a jerk and it's hard playing a game where you don't care for the character you're controlling. I tried a few God of War games but never got too far. I feel similar to The Witcher games. Geralt may not be a jerk but I don't like him much and that makes it difficult to get into those games.
Someone else mentioned Metal Gear Solid as well. I got the original game on PlayStation because of all of the 9 and 10 magazine review scores, and that's probably when I stopped trusting review scores. The game is okay and I can appreciate a well-made game even if it doesn't appeal to me, but why do people love it so much that is has spawned numerous sequels? I felt obligated to keep playing since money had been spent on it and I did reach the final battle. My lack of skills prevented me from ever finishing it though :-\ I suppose if my memory cards still work then I've got a save file at the end of the game.
Super Smash Bros. might be the one that throws me the most. I know it is meant for local multi-player so perhaps I cannot fairly judge it at all. I've tried a few of them, once with others. It was so hectic though that I just mashed buttons and hoped for the best :D The last one I played was on Wii and that single-player campaign portion to unlock characters is very boring. I suppose since I grew up playing Sega games and not Nintendo games the character appeal isn't too great either. However, I feel like even replacing all of the characters with ones I like wouldn't help.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 06, 2015, 08:55:18 am
Super Smash Bros. might be the one that throws me the most. I know it is meant for local multi-player so perhaps I cannot fairly judge it at all. I've tried a few of them, once with others. It was so hectic though that I just mashed buttons and hoped for the best :D The last one I played was on Wii and that single-player campaign portion to unlock characters is very boring. I suppose since I grew up playing Sega games and not Nintendo games the character appeal isn't too great either. However, I feel like even replacing all of the characters with ones I like wouldn't help.
I have to agree with you. My kids like it, so I bought the new Wii U version for them. But I just don't get it. Aside from how chaotic everything going on is , the controls are pretty whack to me. A dedicated jump, punch and kick button would be preferable to me. And I just really don't get the hit percentage. I mean, I know that it is supposed to be the more damage someone has taken, the easier they are to KO off the platforms. But with how nuts everything is, I just can't follow it. My kids will play against me and for the life of me, none of us knows who is going to be the winner and when it is announced, how the hell we won in the first place. :-\
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: kashell on February 06, 2015, 09:03:44 am
Super Smash Bros. might be the one that throws me the most. I know it is meant for local multi-player so perhaps I cannot fairly judge it at all. I've tried a few of them, once with others. It was so hectic though that I just mashed buttons and hoped for the best :D The last one I played was on Wii and that single-player campaign portion to unlock characters is very boring. I suppose since I grew up playing Sega games and not Nintendo games the character appeal isn't too great either. However, I feel like even replacing all of the characters with ones I like wouldn't help.
I have to agree with you. My kids like it, so I bought the new Wii U version for them. But I just don't get it. Aside from how chaotic everything going on is , the controls are pretty whack to me. A dedicated jump, punch and kick button would be preferable to me. And I just really don't get the hit percentage. I mean, I know that it is supposed to be the more damage someone has taken, the easier they are to KO off the platforms. But with how nuts everything is, I just can't follow it. My kids will play against me and for the life of me, none of us knows who is going to be the winner and when it is announced, how the hell we won in the first place. :-\
You were probably playing on Timed. Switch the option to Stock so you have a certain number of lives. That's what we always do.
Smash Bros. is one of the few games in which I'll brag about my abilities. Myself and my two brothers grew up playing it since the N64 days and we are all really good. People are usually surprised when they see us dominate in mini-tournaments and gatherings.
That said, I can completely understand the confusion. There is so much crap going on unless you tweak things. I suggest turning some items off, only going to stages that lack gimmicks and don't randomly select a character. The great thing about Wii U Smash is that you can make all of the stages lose their gimmicks. It makes things much more bearable.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: bobster on February 06, 2015, 09:27:51 am
The Witcher 2 - Tons of people rave about this action RPG. I find it clumsy. It's got some alright ideas, but the controls are unintuitive, the UI is clunky, it just doesn't work for me. I made it about half way through the game and then just got bored. I tried again recently and didn't make it out of the prologue. I am still interested in The Witcher 3, I love an open world action RPG, so if they can improve it, I'll be happy. I want to like the series cause it has a cool developer lol
Just out of curiosity, did you ever play the first one? When the first one came it, it was a total surprise. Here was a Polish developer putting out their first game, on the PC of all things (things have always been relatively sparse for PC games), that had a really interesting world and story. It definitely had clunkiness to it, but if you made it past the first act, the story really sucked you in. Geralt was a very interesting protagonist for me.
The second one turned out way better than the first, but I can still see your point on the clumsiness of it. I know you've tried multiple times so it's probably not for you, but I'm definitely curious to know if you played the first one at all. Also, this latest time trying it, did you try out the battle system mod the developer put out to address a lot of peoples issues? They released it after I finished the game so I never tried it out.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: amauriel on February 06, 2015, 11:14:21 am
I will preface this by saying that I do not "hate" any of these games, but did failed to see the appeal in them and was just unable to get into them at all.
Earthbound: I had really high hopes for this game, I mean it goes for nearly $200 loose and it isn't even a rare game. Tried for about 8 hours to get into the story, characters and the game in general and it really disappointed on all fronts. It seriously left me wondering how it can have such a rabid fanbase and why it is so highly spoken of, and even more so, highly sought after.
This one actually surprised me in here. I don't know if it's because Earthbound was my first RPG or if it was just that it was the first game I bought without renting first and I wanted to get every moment out of it, but damn, I love this game. (If you can't tell from the Starman avatar.)
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 06, 2015, 11:52:17 am
I will preface this by saying that I do not "hate" any of these games, but did failed to see the appeal in them and was just unable to get into them at all.
Earthbound: I had really high hopes for this game, I mean it goes for nearly $200 loose and it isn't even a rare game. Tried for about 8 hours to get into the story, characters and the game in general and it really disappointed on all fronts. It seriously left me wondering how it can have such a rabid fanbase and why it is so highly spoken of, and even more so, highly sought after.
This one actually surprised me in here. I don't know if it's because Earthbound was my first RPG or if it was just that it was the first game I bought without renting first and I wanted to get every moment out of it, but damn, I love this game. (If you can't tell from the Starman avatar.)
I never played Earthbound. :'( However, a game that I loved as a young'un that nobody every talks about is Star Tropics. Man, I loved that game.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: bobster on February 06, 2015, 12:09:33 pm
I will preface this by saying that I do not "hate" any of these games, but did failed to see the appeal in them and was just unable to get into them at all.
Earthbound: I had really high hopes for this game, I mean it goes for nearly $200 loose and it isn't even a rare game. Tried for about 8 hours to get into the story, characters and the game in general and it really disappointed on all fronts. It seriously left me wondering how it can have such a rabid fanbase and why it is so highly spoken of, and even more so, highly sought after.
This one actually surprised me in here. I don't know if it's because Earthbound was my first RPG or if it was just that it was the first game I bought without renting first and I wanted to get every moment out of it, but damn, I love this game. (If you can't tell from the Starman avatar.)
I never played Earthbound. :'( However, a game that I loved as a young'un that nobody every talks about is Star Tropics. Man, I loved that game.
Now there's a sentiment I can get behind. I replayed Star Tropics over the summer. Still pretty fun. I've yet to play Zoda's Revenge though.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 06, 2015, 02:12:23 pm
I will preface this by saying that I do not "hate" any of these games, but did failed to see the appeal in them and was just unable to get into them at all.
Earthbound: I had really high hopes for this game, I mean it goes for nearly $200 loose and it isn't even a rare game. Tried for about 8 hours to get into the story, characters and the game in general and it really disappointed on all fronts. It seriously left me wondering how it can have such a rabid fanbase and why it is so highly spoken of, and even more so, highly sought after.
This one actually surprised me in here. I don't know if it's because Earthbound was my first RPG or if it was just that it was the first game I bought without renting first and I wanted to get every moment out of it, but damn, I love this game. (If you can't tell from the Starman avatar.)
I never played Earthbound. :'( However, a game that I loved as a young'un that nobody every talks about is Star Tropics. Man, I loved that game.
Now there's a sentiment I can get behind. I replayed Star Tropics over the summer. Still pretty fun. I've yet to play Zoda's Revenge though.
I never played Zoda's Revenge either. Here's a painful story. A few years ago, I went into the local mom & pop shop looking around. They had brand-new, sealed with the H-seam copies of Star Tropics and Zoda's Revenge. Not crushed, not dinged, no funky smashed corners or tears in the plastic. These babies were cherry. I asked what she wanted and she sold both to me for $20. I sold them for forty a few months later as I wasn't collecting NES titles at that time. Ugh...I could kick myself.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: bobster on February 06, 2015, 02:27:08 pm
I will preface this by saying that I do not "hate" any of these games, but did failed to see the appeal in them and was just unable to get into them at all.
Earthbound: I had really high hopes for this game, I mean it goes for nearly $200 loose and it isn't even a rare game. Tried for about 8 hours to get into the story, characters and the game in general and it really disappointed on all fronts. It seriously left me wondering how it can have such a rabid fanbase and why it is so highly spoken of, and even more so, highly sought after.
This one actually surprised me in here. I don't know if it's because Earthbound was my first RPG or if it was just that it was the first game I bought without renting first and I wanted to get every moment out of it, but damn, I love this game. (If you can't tell from the Starman avatar.)
I never played Earthbound. :'( However, a game that I loved as a young'un that nobody every talks about is Star Tropics. Man, I loved that game.
Now there's a sentiment I can get behind. I replayed Star Tropics over the summer. Still pretty fun. I've yet to play Zoda's Revenge though.
I never played Zoda's Revenge either. Here's a painful story. A few years ago, I went into the local mom & pop shop looking around. They had brand-new, sealed with the H-seam copies of Star Tropics and Zoda's Revenge. Not crushed, not dinged, no funky smashed corners or tears in the plastic. These babies were cherry. I asked what she wanted and she sold both to me for $20. I sold them for forty a few months later as I wasn't collecting NES titles at that time. Ugh...I could kick myself.
Ouch that makes me sad in the heart :(.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 06, 2015, 03:45:27 pm
Just out of curiosity, did you ever play the first one? When the first one came it, it was a total surprise. Here was a Polish developer putting out their first game, on the PC of all things (things have always been relatively sparse for PC games), that had a really interesting world and story. It definitely had clunkiness to it, but if you made it past the first act, the story really sucked you in. Geralt was a very interesting protagonist for me.
The second one turned out way better than the first, but I can still see your point on the clumsiness of it. I know you've tried multiple times so it's probably not for you, but I'm definitely curious to know if you played the first one at all. Also, this latest time trying it, did you try out the battle system mod the developer put out to address a lot of peoples issues? They released it after I finished the game so I never tried it out.
Nah, I never played the first one. A lot of people said that while it was a good game, it had its issues and that going with Witcher 2 was probably better. It sounds like the situation where if someone wanted to get into Mass Effect, I wouldn't recommend the first game at all, but to start with ME2 lol I haven't tried the battle mod though. What does it actually change to make it better? To me, it felt like it needed a real overhaul to be any good.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: bobster on February 06, 2015, 08:15:49 pm
Just out of curiosity, did you ever play the first one? When the first one came it, it was a total surprise. Here was a Polish developer putting out their first game, on the PC of all things (things have always been relatively sparse for PC games), that had a really interesting world and story. It definitely had clunkiness to it, but if you made it past the first act, the story really sucked you in. Geralt was a very interesting protagonist for me.
The second one turned out way better than the first, but I can still see your point on the clumsiness of it. I know you've tried multiple times so it's probably not for you, but I'm definitely curious to know if you played the first one at all. Also, this latest time trying it, did you try out the battle system mod the developer put out to address a lot of peoples issues? They released it after I finished the game so I never tried it out.
Nah, I never played the first one. A lot of people said that while it was a good game, it had its issues and that going with Witcher 2 was probably better. It sounds like the situation where if someone wanted to get into Mass Effect, I wouldn't recommend the first game at all, but to start with ME2 lol I haven't tried the battle mod though. What does it actually change to make it better? To me, it felt like it needed a real overhaul to be any good.
Well this looks like some of it.
overall purpose of the mod is to increase Geralt’s responsiveness and mobility - Geralt can parry attacks while he’s walking and running (new animations) - Geralt reacts faster to keyboard/gamepad buttons - active block was replaced by active Quen - during heavy battle Geralt uses pirouettes and focus (new animations) - difficulty levels were rebalanced - Geralt does not “bump” away from opponent’s swords when his attacks are parried which allows quick continuation of the attack sequence - opponents explode when particular attacks are used, e.g. Igni causes opponent explosion, just like in The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition intro - elixirs have negative influence
This video shows off the differences.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: gf78 on February 06, 2015, 09:15:35 pm
Just out of curiosity, did you ever play the first one? When the first one came it, it was a total surprise. Here was a Polish developer putting out their first game, on the PC of all things (things have always been relatively sparse for PC games), that had a really interesting world and story. It definitely had clunkiness to it, but if you made it past the first act, the story really sucked you in. Geralt was a very interesting protagonist for me.
The second one turned out way better than the first, but I can still see your point on the clumsiness of it. I know you've tried multiple times so it's probably not for you, but I'm definitely curious to know if you played the first one at all. Also, this latest time trying it, did you try out the battle system mod the developer put out to address a lot of peoples issues? They released it after I finished the game so I never tried it out.
Nah, I never played the first one. A lot of people said that while it was a good game, it had its issues and that going with Witcher 2 was probably better. It sounds like the situation where if someone wanted to get into Mass Effect, I wouldn't recommend the first game at all, but to start with ME2 lol I haven't tried the battle mod though. What does it actually change to make it better? To me, it felt like it needed a real overhaul to be any good.
Well this looks like some of it.
overall purpose of the mod is to increase Geralt’s responsiveness and mobility - Geralt can parry attacks while he’s walking and running (new animations) - Geralt reacts faster to keyboard/gamepad buttons - active block was replaced by active Quen - during heavy battle Geralt uses pirouettes and focus (new animations) - difficulty levels were rebalanced - Geralt does not “bump” away from opponent’s swords when his attacks are parried which allows quick continuation of the attack sequence - opponents explode when particular attacks are used, e.g. Igni causes opponent explosion, just like in The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition intro - elixirs have negative influence
This video shows off the differences.
If Witcher 2 were a Ubisoft game, that update would have been $29.99 MSRP.
Title: Re: Games that are universally loved....but you hate them
Post by: bobster on February 06, 2015, 09:26:53 pm
Just out of curiosity, did you ever play the first one? When the first one came it, it was a total surprise. Here was a Polish developer putting out their first game, on the PC of all things (things have always been relatively sparse for PC games), that had a really interesting world and story. It definitely had clunkiness to it, but if you made it past the first act, the story really sucked you in. Geralt was a very interesting protagonist for me.
The second one turned out way better than the first, but I can still see your point on the clumsiness of it. I know you've tried multiple times so it's probably not for you, but I'm definitely curious to know if you played the first one at all. Also, this latest time trying it, did you try out the battle system mod the developer put out to address a lot of peoples issues? They released it after I finished the game so I never tried it out.
Nah, I never played the first one. A lot of people said that while it was a good game, it had its issues and that going with Witcher 2 was probably better. It sounds like the situation where if someone wanted to get into Mass Effect, I wouldn't recommend the first game at all, but to start with ME2 lol I haven't tried the battle mod though. What does it actually change to make it better? To me, it felt like it needed a real overhaul to be any good.
Well this looks like some of it.
overall purpose of the mod is to increase Geralt’s responsiveness and mobility - Geralt can parry attacks while he’s walking and running (new animations) - Geralt reacts faster to keyboard/gamepad buttons - active block was replaced by active Quen - during heavy battle Geralt uses pirouettes and focus (new animations) - difficulty levels were rebalanced - Geralt does not “bump” away from opponent’s swords when his attacks are parried which allows quick continuation of the attack sequence - opponents explode when particular attacks are used, e.g. Igni causes opponent explosion, just like in The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition intro - elixirs have negative influence
This video shows off the differences.
If Witcher 2 were a Ubisoft game, that update would have been $29.99 MSRP.
lol definitely. That's why I love the Witcher Developers.