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General / Re: 4 New Games Added to the "World Video Game Hall of Fame"
« on: May 10, 2026, 04:43:31 pm »Personally, I'd consider these sorts of experts far more capable of making selections in this sort of process based on history and cultural influence than the kinds of industry figures you're suggesting. In the end, there is an exhaustive list of games that could be nominated or inducted. This is just one organization's selections.
Can I ask why? Just off curiosity. I myself meet every criteria for what you just mentioned. Mostly all of that is self defined. You cant self define yourself as Shigeru Miyamoto or a legend in the medium. An artist. Anyone can say they are an expert. Self proclaimed experts do things like put Silent Hill 1 in a hall of fame before any Metroid title lol.
I also don't understand your backtrack on Silent Hill 1 because I feel your gut instinct was definitely right, as it meets none of the criteria you show their site posted for a submission to the hall of fame. It's sole existence is because of a lane Resident Evil carved 3 years prior, even its own devs admitted this, so it cant possibly be considered innovative as a first entry into a genre. It didn't chart new ground. It altered an existing formula's mood. Aside from being first. 2 did everything better.
I'm sorry. Off this alone this particular site loses credibility. To me anyway. I just wish these sites would say "our top q00" which screams "opinion and biased" not "hall of fame" which indicates consensus, authority and gospel. The entire hall of fame just off that observation alone doesnt have "historians" and game archeologists that should be taken with any ounce of sincerity over a typical guy. There is no universe where Silent Hill 1 gets in before 2.
Considering that these individuals are well-connected to a highly reputable institution related to the preservation, documentation, and education of video games, I will assume that they are far more informed about the history of games than you and I, and I would also argue that have more knowledge pertaining to games as a collective medium than individual developers whom often are far more like you or I as hobbyists of games than as people who actually study them.
The credibility you claim they have is given by whom? What institution holds this kind of authority? What makes them more knowledgeable than say AVGN? Or us?
As a database mod for this site. A site cateloging more games than most sites do. For years. Why would you assume these random people have more knowledge on games than you? I don't believe that. I kinda feel you are taking to bat for them with not much context as to why. Even if they are gaming intellects. Possibly equal to other nerds. But not more. I could be wrong. But I guess unless you know these people personally we cant know their credentials so to me it's just another online opinion. I would even argue consuming media doesn't make you an expert. Pat the Nes punk knows more than us about the NES library i'm sure. But he's still biased by design. Knowledge isn't weighted in opinionated topics.
To say Silent Hill 1 having a more iconic legacy in the realm of gaming I feel is hot and counter cultural take.
I mean you are far more familiar with the silent hill franchise than me. So i'll defer tbh. But I was always under the impression that Silent Hill 2 is the game that is largely credited with shaping the enduring, philosophical legacy of the franchise. It is way more searched, quoted, and beloved. I cant imagine 2 being less impactful. The PS2 was the king of horror games. Isn't it kinda sad not to display one? It seems the museum favors foundation over innovation. 2 is a top metacritic critics choice game.
As for Barbie Fashion Deisgner. This is a random assumption with no context in a critique stating that we aren't using context when I feel my reply gave about 3 contextual elements within the museum's own guidelines that qualifies Metroid over both Silent Hill and Barbie Fashion designer. I included sales, staying power, influence. So both of Sly's critiques of the admission remain. In what way is Barbie Fashion designer impactful? We arent pretending it made girls like actual home console video games are we? It sold a lot of units and was successful with girl demographics. Mostly because it wasn't a traditional video game at all, it was a fashion add on to be sold in conjuction with dolls. Interactive software. Barely a video game under extremely vague defining practices. It sold units because of its attatched IP and Doll clothes. Not as a stand alone. It's color a dinosaur for dolls. I don't have to pretend it's legendary because this museum says so. Especially when its offending the medium and other games that are being left on the chopping room floor. I was under the assumption that lasting power. And iconic legacy were heavily weighted. The fact that you need to pull a link from a website for 2 game collectors who own over 1000 games and exist in the gamer sphere to even care what the thing is shows that it is not impactful the way anyone is claiming it is. Have you ever even heard of it before today? Be honest. You read their synapsis of it for a reason. Because it's mostly irrelevant and barely a game anyway.
I'l keep my argument clean with one simple statement.
Do you have to share a link with any gamer even a casual to educate someone on what Metroid was and why it is iconic?
No. It speaks for itself within this industry. Barbie Fashion designer is silly as an entry. To say I was ignorant for saying that, is imo ignorant because even the sites reasoning alludes to the fact that it had very specific circumstances and a boost from outside hobbies and culture to assist it's Growth. In that sense Skylanders would be just as worthy if not more. They seem to be insinuating this toy add on opened the doors for girl gamers. I'd need more proof of that. It happened to be girl centered IP and sold a lot. That's all it got for reasons. Is it even good?
But my main point was ignored. I want someone to argue for the sake of arguing that Barbie Fashion Designer is more worthy of a video game hall of fame than the Entire Metroid franchise or any singular entry. This is barely subjective anymore that's how silly this has become. And I don't see much opening for blindly accepting the logic of a museum that does or says that. So that is my motive for mistrust. I stated my reasons fairly clear. It wasn't just blind hate. Its the comparison.
Hall of fames and museums shouldn't blend anyway because like you said. They have clashing intents. One is made to display the best of the best. One is made to display the innovative and Unique for people to discover new lanes. In that sense. Yes. Barbie is fun to learn about. Its neat. Its unique. It's not Red Dead Redemption though lol.


I know it's not much, but I am really sorry this has happened. Seeing you around these forums for as long as I have. Feels pretty devastating to know this happened to you. Or anyone. I swear the world just keeps bleeding the good decent people for the benefit of monsters or Greed or AI. It feels like every time I wake up Its like majoras mask or something.. where it feels like you are running against the clock or preparing for an impending doom which can come in like 20 different forms.