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Off Topic / Re: How to deal with rude drivers cutting me off?
« on: May 11, 2025, 11:41:29 pm »
You just yell loudly, and shout obscenities while not really thinking too deeply about it. You should always expect the worst out of traffic, and be impressed when someone doesn't actually suck. Also don't forget we all make some stupid mistakes now and then, and I'm sure that we all have pissed someone else off. To others it can look intentional. Sometimes the easiest mistake to make is merging on someone who's tucked in your blind spot.

In the end, I'm not taking part in a race or competition to "win" anything against traffic by shaving off a couple of minutes at every opportunity. Being a driver, we think we're given agency over the outcome as we travel, but it's not that way. It's just like any other form of transportation, it serves a purpose to get us from "a" to "b", and it takes however long it takes. Just keep your eyes peeled for sucky drivers to defend your property and well being against.



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General / Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« on: May 05, 2025, 09:17:34 pm »
I seldom bought new games when they were $60. Since they went to $70, almost never. At $80? I don't know I'd ever wanna play a new game that bad. The shit-kicker is that most of these new "Triple-A" titles that come out are not only not half bug-tested at launch, but the devs know there's a ton of other shit they're withholding to sell us later, so that we end up spending what, $100+ on a game by the time it's all said and done?

I'm just not doin' it. How can you be a financially responsible adult, amidst inflation plus the global economic stupidity that's poised to screw us further, and spend that kind of money on even a semi-regular basis for entertainment purposes? It's time for a reset on this industry. It's begging for apocalypse.

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I've raved about this for ages. It's the nature of paper when it's a pure white variety. Over time, with environmental factors accelerating the issue, the chemical compound of the paper breaks down and looses it's vibrant white appearance. It doesn't necessarily turn yellow, it just becomes less and less vivid as it breaks down and becomes less stable. Compared to the white plastic of the case, it will look like a different color eventually.

Has happened not only to my Wii artwork, also my Sega Saturn artwork, Dreamcast artwork, the white banners on Xbox 360 games, PS5 games, etc. Anything vivid white, will eventually become dingier white over time. A lot of my PS5 games are already doing this. I live in an environment where air humidity levels tend to fluctuate from dry to normal-borderline damp, and that's a nightmare scenario for thin little slips of high gloss paper. Hell, all of my handheld console screens turn yellow over time too, because of these dry to damp shifts. It's a common problem in Japan due to their climate conditions as well.

You have two options. Just accept this shit will turn dingy and look bad, because you know it's something that happens outside of your control. Or, use a scanner to do high-res scans of all of your artwork (avoid the low-res crap found on most websites, because it'll look like a cheap counterfeit), photo edit to tweak the dingy tint back to white, then reprint all of your artwork. It'll be good for a while, but it'll just happen again eventually. Still, you can do a refresh as many times as you'd like ones you've got all your stuff archived...

A third option, buy some cream colored DVD cases?

I think there is definitely some control

cause in most cases wii covers are still white. this is not the normal, maybe after a hell lot more time has past but not in the current era.

even with people that don't give a shit and treat wii poorly covers are still white in  most cases. I don't think wii covers are as fragile as comic books or some of that old toy cardboard. let alone ps2 covers in europe which all have white backsides. most if not all are still white. only time they get yellowed is when people actually get dirty with em. smudge insane sun damage etc didn't happen by itselves.

if this was an actual issue that happened out of nowhere people be complaining for days. just ain't it. poor storage, maybe said guy living in a humid environment it definitely didn't happen out of nowhere

It's a similar reason why people keep pictures under glass. If they didn't, the pictures would fade eventually. If you have an old book sitting around, you'll probably notice the tips of the pages look dingy compared to the pages which have been kept closed. Many types of paper when exposed to air, will eventually disrupt the chemical composition and alter the appearance. It doesn't exactly indicate that it's been abused or mistreated, a lot of times very normal use and storage can result in this outcome. Folks who ended up with cheddar cheese Super Nintendo systems didn't abuse them, the composition in the plastics were triggered by the environment, resulting in a color change over time. Other Super Nintendo systems made of a different plastic, won't do this even if it was in the very same environment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7YgfdWffh0

Random collection video as an example, but I can notice that a lot of the artwork shown here is darker than the white of the plastic cases, and that's what OP is talking about. The covers are technically still "white", it's just not a vibrant white anymore, it's more of a cream color. This is typical and only becoming more common with Wii collections.

Have you seen the pic the op send? his mario kart turned yellow.



This is not normal, nor is it common at all. unless usa wii games are shitty quality compared to pal land. but haven't seen it all that much on ebay or with my own usa wii games
if this was somewhat common sizable wii collections would have turned yellow by now.

also wii cases never had identical color to the plastic cases. they are close but not the same.

Also imo I don't think wii covers have changed color from when they where brand new and if thy did it's a very small diff that I don't notice.

i agree with you on super nes and nes consoles but this ain't it.  and with snes consoles it's mainly usage and it getting hot. cause it's always the consoles that are barely used in plastic that are still nice and grey. unless you are lucky with certain plastic revisions of the snes it's gonna turn yellow when you use it to some degree.

His example is on the extreme side, but it also might be due to the color balance on his camera that's exaggerating the color. If you notice the discoloration is more extreme towards the top and bottom edges, I see that a lot in my collection too. This is an indication of air reaching the artwork, and this is def not paper that's going to stand up to air exposure. Could have a really loose, compromised sleeve, maybe even sticking out at the top a bit, but almost all of mine show some discoloration near the edges. Like I said before, including some factory sealed games. I believe the sleeves on these are just not very well made.

If you environment is ideal, it might not happen to the extreme degree shown. But, I mean take a look at some of these random collections and notice how many are a warmer off-white than others.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wii/comments/s390fa/my_wii_collection_been_collecting_off_and_on/#lightbox

https://www.reddit.com/r/wii/comments/123nlaa/quality_over_quantity_only_the_best_games_what/#lightbox

Post up a bit of your own Wii collection, and let's have look? See if we can't find some of those warm off-white buggers.

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I've raved about this for ages. It's the nature of paper when it's a pure white variety. Over time, with environmental factors accelerating the issue, the chemical compound of the paper breaks down and looses it's vibrant white appearance. It doesn't necessarily turn yellow, it just becomes less and less vivid as it breaks down and becomes less stable. Compared to the white plastic of the case, it will look like a different color eventually.

Has happened not only to my Wii artwork, also my Sega Saturn artwork, Dreamcast artwork, the white banners on Xbox 360 games, PS5 games, etc. Anything vivid white, will eventually become dingier white over time. A lot of my PS5 games are already doing this. I live in an environment where air humidity levels tend to fluctuate from dry to normal-borderline damp, and that's a nightmare scenario for thin little slips of high gloss paper. Hell, all of my handheld console screens turn yellow over time too, because of these dry to damp shifts. It's a common problem in Japan due to their climate conditions as well.

You have two options. Just accept this shit will turn dingy and look bad, because you know it's something that happens outside of your control. Or, use a scanner to do high-res scans of all of your artwork (avoid the low-res crap found on most websites, because it'll look like a cheap counterfeit), photo edit to tweak the dingy tint back to white, then reprint all of your artwork. It'll be good for a while, but it'll just happen again eventually. Still, you can do a refresh as many times as you'd like ones you've got all your stuff archived...

A third option, buy some cream colored DVD cases?

I think there is definitely some control

cause in most cases wii covers are still white. this is not the normal, maybe after a hell lot more time has past but not in the current era.

even with people that don't give a shit and treat wii poorly covers are still white in  most cases. I don't think wii covers are as fragile as comic books or some of that old toy cardboard. let alone ps2 covers in europe which all have white backsides. most if not all are still white. only time they get yellowed is when people actually get dirty with em. smudge insane sun damage etc didn't happen by itselves.

if this was an actual issue that happened out of nowhere people be complaining for days. just ain't it. poor storage, maybe said guy living in a humid environment it definitely didn't happen out of nowhere

I see dingy looking Wii artwork a lot when browsing used games in a shop. Hell, I have Wii games still in the shrink-wrap, and games in box protectors, that used to have pure white artwork and have turned dingy. Some PS2 games in North America also have a lot of white on them, many of which have also been in my collection for years and I'll agree that on average they have not turned nearly as dingy as the Wii artwork has for most of my Wii games, all kept in the exact same space for many years. If you have an ideal environment that's never too dry or never too damp, this will happen a lot slower, but it will happen. Paper over time looses it's vibrancy.

More people are noticing hence why OP has brought the subject up, and I suspect more will in the future.

It could be a different grade of paper being used, it could be due to PS2 sleeves being a superior more protective grade of material, and perhaps holds the artwork more securely from air exposure more effectively. Probably all of the above. I know that PS5 cases have horrible sleeves which bulge out and expose the cover to the air massively, causing waviness and discoloration at the edges of the artwork, which I find to be super common. With every generation, the sleeve quality gets worse and worse as it's made of cheaper material.

It's a similar reason why people keep pictures under glass. If they didn't, the pictures would fade eventually. If you have an old book sitting around, you'll probably notice the tips of the pages look dingy compared to the pages which have been kept closed. Many types of paper when exposed to air, will eventually disrupt the chemical composition and alter the appearance. It doesn't exactly indicate that it's been abused or mistreated, a lot of times very normal use and storage can result in this outcome. Folks who ended up with cheddar cheese Super Nintendo systems didn't abuse them, the composition in the plastics were triggered by the environment, resulting in a color change over time. Other Super Nintendo systems made of a different plastic, won't do this even if it was in the very same environment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7YgfdWffh0

Random collection video as an example, but I can notice that a lot of the artwork shown here is darker than the white of the plastic cases, and that's what OP is talking about. The covers are technically still "white", it's just not a vibrant white anymore, it's more of a cream color. This is typical and only becoming more common with Wii collections.

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General / Re: Does anyone know what causes yellowing without sunlight?
« on: April 30, 2025, 07:54:41 pm »
I've raved about this for ages. It's the nature of paper when it's a pure white variety. Over time, with environmental factors accelerating the issue, the chemical compound of the paper breaks down and looses it's vibrant white appearance. It doesn't necessarily turn yellow, it just becomes less and less vivid as it breaks down and becomes less stable. Compared to the white plastic of the case, it will look like a different color eventually.

Has happened not only to my Wii artwork, also my Sega Saturn artwork, Dreamcast artwork, the white banners on Xbox 360 games, PS5 games, etc. Anything vivid white, will eventually become dingier white over time. A lot of my PS5 games are already doing this. I live in an environment where air humidity levels tend to fluctuate from dry to normal-borderline damp, and that's a nightmare scenario for thin little slips of high gloss paper. Hell, all of my handheld console screens turn yellow over time too, because of these dry to damp shifts. It's a common problem in Japan due to their climate conditions as well.

You have two options. Just accept this shit will turn dingy and look bad, because you know it's something that happens outside of your control. Or, use a scanner to do high-res scans of all of your artwork (avoid the low-res crap found on most websites, because it'll look like a cheap counterfeit), photo edit to tweak the dingy tint back to white, then reprint all of your artwork. It'll be good for a while, but it'll just happen again eventually. Still, you can do a refresh as many times as you'd like ones you've got all your stuff archived...

A third option, buy some cream colored DVD cases?

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General / Re: Your 2025 Gaming and Collecting Goals
« on: January 25, 2025, 10:11:05 am »
Absolutely nothing. I've wrestled with the idea that maybe I'm done retro collecting now. For a long time I've felt so close, yet so far away. Several hundred games on my list I still wanted to get, but it's meant several thousand dollars I'm just not willing (and don't have) to dump into it. Hard to believe this stuff is still going so strong all these years later, folks clamoring to collect every title you can think of, for every console you can think of in 2025. I know the appeal of doing so has greatly diminished for me. I think it's mostly the speculators still going this hard at it.

I actually found myself in my local retro shop the other day and actually picked up a couple of NES games on the cheap, unexpectedly. So guess I'm not done. I just don't have the motivation to pursue it anymore. I'm really close with a lot of fifth gen stuff, so if anything I should try knock those out. Still a lot easier said than done.

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General / Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« on: January 14, 2025, 01:40:12 pm »
I too agree that the condemnation of current day disc-based games is a little overblown, but it's not hard to understand where the sentiment comes from. Many game companies are fine allowing their customers to do the quality control check in the official release window after pressing it to a disc, which is total BS and sometimes completely tanks the reputation of a new game. Games get released when they aren't sufficiently bug tested or in some cases not completed, and that's become way too normalized. Such an idiotic practice, can you imagine any other industry being so boldly anti-consumer?

What strikes me is that they still put forth the effort to print physical copies of games, but they've been almost completely pushed out of physical retail. Target and Walmart are slowly, but surely fazing out the last dozen or so shelf spaces they still have reserved for games. The GameStop stores I've been to of late have almost nothing in terms of games on their shelves, they intentionally de-emphasized physical games to the point it was difficult to find and even pre-order a lot of releases, which makes no sense for a niche video game store to do. As a result, there's never anyone shopping the games in their stores, and it's a total ghost-town most of the time when I would go. GameStop did this to themselves, as much or more than the industry changes did this to them. Their entire store model was always built off of circulating copies of games into the local markets, and buying and reselling the used ones. They've abandon that. I don't believe any recent leadership at the company has any real strategy for survival, they're just there to bleed the company of any value it has left to line their own pockets and then resign. This is what typically happens to a failing retail establishment.

But I understand bikingjahuty's doomer-ism, we are reaching a point where everything that we as millennials loved about the gaming experience in our younger years, is all but obsolete. We've sacrificed so much reliability and piece of mind, in the pursuit of technological progress. The account-based digital landscape has only atomized the gaming experience for many players, local multi-player has been de-emphasized in favor of online gameplay. Folks don't even care to own the games anymore, if they can get a sub which allows them to play new releases for a limited time. We're told that ownership of software is going away in the near future, that maybe consoles themselves are going away, and it's just going to be an online subscription to PlayStation or Xbox.

I won't want any part of it, by the time gaming reaches that point. I don't think we're there yet, but the pillars are falling. Game stores are giving up, shutting down, the average consumer has made the switch to the digital marketplace. I agree with biking that gaming in the current era, almost does not resemble gaming even 10 years ago in terms of quality, selection, security of purchases, any sort of hobby aspect we enjoyed. It's become so transformed in favor of big business over the consumer, which is always the story you'd expect in our late-stage economic system. It's designed to do this as a feature, not a bug. Technology is only the accomplice helping to accelerate the enshittification of all things, and the concentration of wealth and power into the hands of the few. As long as we the end users can be convinced that it's being made more "convenient", it's enough that most will abide.

I'd say the best days of gaming are in the rear view. The gaming industry is flirting with apocalypse, and in a lot of ways deserves it.

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General / Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« on: January 09, 2025, 11:29:34 pm »
Well, yet another GameStop in my town has shut it doors. Leaving only one left. I know how much the company is hated by people for various reasons, but I've always had pleasant experiences and have a lot of fondness for the glory days of game collecting at their stores.

It hits the feels with closings like this, I've been going this location literally since they opened their doors in 2008. I remember just stumbling on this location right when it first opened, and being enthralled with all the stuff they had, back when I was just starting to collect. We never really had independent stores in our area, so physical media was reaching it's peak and suddenly there were several GameStop stores in my town. This was the only one built from the ground up as a GameStop. I started to hit all of their locations on a weekly basis, and did so for many years. They've all been going sharply downhill since the pandemic, but I drove by this same location this evening to find it had just been shuttered. Just a real bummer and depressing reminder of how all good things come to pass, being there from the excitement of the beginning, to the bitter end.

As if there were any silver lining to it, I did manage to snag the actual GameStop logo marquees that were on the outside of the building (the light up signs), from going to the dump. They're absolutely huge and there's nothing I can do with them, but it just felt like something I needed to do as a homage to a store that meant a lot to me over the years. I'll probably let them go to someone who wants them eventually, but I couldn't let them go to the landfill. GameStop love them or hate them, are a piece of gaming history just as Funcoland was, and one day I think more people will recognize that.

The times, they are a changing, and I simply hate it. The end of game stores, the end of physical games. It's just no fun this way.

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Super easy choice, Konami. I like action based games more than RPGs and Konami is one of the all-time greats.

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General / Re: Old Youtube gaming channels/videos nostalgia thread
« on: September 24, 2024, 11:33:22 am »
I mostly watched and tended to prefer a lot of the early vlogger-type channels, like 2008-2011 era. Many of which never took off or made any kind of real splash. Mostly under a thousand subs type channels. Those were the ones that initially inspired me to get back into retro and get into collecting. The biggest and most notable being of course PeteDorr. He was a big inspiration for me to consider getting into what was modern gaming and collecting for modern consoles at that time. He really piqued my curiosity with the Nintendo DS. There were several small vlogger channels with a focus on DS back then, one was called Retrocalypse and he was like a DS guru. Unfortunately one day his channel was gone. Turns out he lost his collection in a flood, but I later found out he was an owner of like an actual gaming store or something to that effect. He never came back to YT as far as I know.

There were a bunch of small channels like that I doubt anyone here recalls, like Benzo8686, BallinNick1982, MovieStarKitten, TVandLust, and others, just a lot of early vloggers, who mostly pointed a camera at themselves in their bedrooms and talked about what they picked up or what games they've been playing, or childhood memories or stories involving games. Many of their channels are now dormant, or gone entirely.

I never got really big into scripted content back in the old days. But later on I did watch stuff like Game Chasers, Scott the Woz, Gaming Historian, Lady Decade, Sega LordX, My Retro Life, SNES Drunk, My Life In Gaming, etc. But to be honest, I still really just enjoy a good vlog. PeteDorr is back doing regular uploads again which I've been catching regularly, and there's several other good ones going today that I like to watch, such as DatGameCollector, LegallyInsaneGamer, RNG Gamer, Heck'n Steve, Steve Craig Retro Games, etc. There's something that never gets old about that simple format of content with folks just holding up stuff in front of the camera, and talking. Especially when they take the time to interact with their viewers, and listen to subscriber feedback. I enjoy the sense of community/comradery, that comes with following a small-time vlog. Rather than feeling like just another viewer out of thousands who are watching a show, where the producers don't really care what any rando thinks and don't interact with any of their audience.

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General / Re: How did you choose between PS2 and Xbox (or PS3 and 360)?
« on: September 23, 2024, 11:27:15 pm »
Actually, it always mostly came down to which console was the most established, or the most affordable at the time, whenever I'd decided I was ready for an upgrade.

I was more than ready to pounce on the Dreamcast when it launched, and then, my brother and I not sharing so well with it - I decided to save up and buy another one for myself. Before I could do that, the PS2 was out and it was spring of 2001. They had just started to become more readily in stock, and I thought.... well, that's the latest and shiniest toy, may as well go for a PS2. So PS2 kept me occupied and I was not interested in any other console for quite some time after that. I didn't feel like I needed to own multiple competing platforms back then.

Similar as with the Xbox 360. It was more established in my mind, I knew friends who had it, it had more value-oriented bundles available by the time I decided I wanted a 7th gen console. So, Xbox 360 it was.
 
I never spent much time weighing the pros and cons of competing systems. It wasn't based on specific games, or system specs, or bias for a brand. Just a gut feeling.

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General / Re: How do you prefer your Sonic games? 2D or 3D?
« on: September 06, 2024, 11:38:07 am »
I won't say definitively until I've played them all. I've played only the classic Sonic games, up to 3D Heroes. I'm still of the opinion the Sonic Adventure has held up, and is still fairly good even though it's a little jank. I didn't care as much for Heroes, as it was super janky. However, the best I've played are the original trilogy. I know there are plenty of 3D games not well regarded, but in recent years Sonic games have not been a critical failure as some were in the past. I think some of the modern games look quite good from the gameplay, and tend to mix elements of 2D and 3D. Depends on who you ask, some say they are good, some say they are trash. I personally don't see how they could be trash, given most of them look good just to watch.

Hating Sonic has become a meme at this point, and given all the jaded negativity that a lot of games today face, I don't put much stock into what's said about the franchise.

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General / Re: Is there any hope for this site?
« on: August 31, 2024, 02:01:04 am »
As far as the forums? No. Most have either moved on, or become jaded and apathetic towards both retro collecting and modern/current gen gaming. That was the common thread of this place a decade ago, the reason why it was so active, because everyone was very personally invested in those things. We were all more than happy to trade notes, talk about hidden gems to look out for, show off pick-ups, talk about childhood gaming memories, tell wacky collector stories, create various ranking lists and best ofs, etc. But since the wind left the sails of why we were all here to begin with, solid community members disappeared and increasingly fewer came about to pick up their slack, it became more like sending messages into the void, and like "why bother?" Does anyone here have even a remote interest in the same things that I still care about regarding gaming or collecting anymore? As the sentiment has increasingly felt like a resounding "no" on both fronts, my desire to participate only diminished further. Gotta be honest.


I really couldn't have said it better myself.


I guess I send messages out into the void on here hoping someone will reply or contribute something. I get not being as into collecting, hunting for games, or being excited about new releases, I'm certainly one of those people. However, I'm still a gamer and someone who still considers video games to be an important part of my life. I know that's true for a lot of people that use this site, although I'm sure some have moved on. Obviously people can move on, go to different forum sites, go strictly to social media to discuss gaming, or do whatever they want to, but it's sad that so many have left behind a place that has one of the best gaming communities on the internet, at least used to.


Is it just me, or does it seem like interest in gaming is on the decline in general? I feel like there's less interest in gaming on sites like Youtube even, with most gaming content being rage bait or some pedantic video about some currently trendy game or series. I guess it all just kinda bums me out and makes me wish things were the way they were back in 2013/2014 when the zeitgeist felt like a bunch of people who were excited about gaming, both new and old, and tracking down games from their past.

As much as I don't like to admit, this generation and the ways things have been headed has been a bit rough. I'm not one to wallow in this and complain, in fact I try to make every effort to get excited and be enthusiastic over whatever crumb is dropping in the current scene. Like for example, Visions of Mana recently. It's a great game, nothing to throw a fit about there. I feel there has been plenty to satiate that hunger for gaming in the current age, IMO. But that's not to say that it's the same, because it isn't.

Like everything in life peaks, gaming reached a peak at a certain point, now it's on a downward trajectory. It's not 1998, or 2003, or even 2011 anymore. The industry is doesn't function in a healthy or practical manner any longer, it's become creatively bankrupt, riding heavily on nostalgia, gamers of certain demographic are feeling old and jaded, everything is online. It's a lot of things.

I still find a good bit of gaming entertainment to watch on YouTube, and I don't feel like that's dying off personally. I guess it depends on what aspect you're looking into. I still decry the death of physical media as a culprit in further atomizing everyone's experience with modern games. What's anyone buying, what do they own? Who knows. I feel like that's harder to convey when you don't have physical items trading around, and everything is tied to an account that only one person has access to. The sense of what's relevant or popular in this moment in time, almost doesn't matter anymore. Like when MP3s became dominant. Everybody has their own personal playlist now, and no one cares what someone else listens to. I can't think of the last time I saw someone wearing a t-shirt of a band, it's not even relevant in pop-culture anymore, the bands people listen to, because music isn't much of a shared experience anymore. I think video games are headed in that direction too.

Personally, I'm back into collecting once again, lol. I'll never be satisfied until I have everything I've ever wanted, and didn't know that I wanted. I also try to stay optimistic about the current gaming scene, even if it feels like no one gives a shit anymore, besides myself. How much longer will gaming be physical, and something you can take real ownership of and forever play on your own terms? Who's to say, but I'm relishing in the fact that it's still a thing. I'm gonna enjoy it while it lasts.

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General / Re: Is there any hope for this site?
« on: August 25, 2024, 10:47:34 pm »
As far as the forums? No. Most have either moved on, or become jaded and apathetic towards both retro collecting and modern/current gen gaming. That was the common thread of this place a decade ago, the reason why it was so active, because everyone was very personally invested in those things. We were all more than happy to trade notes, talk about hidden gems to look out for, show off pick-ups, talk about childhood gaming memories, tell wacky collector stories, create various ranking lists and best ofs, etc. But since the wind left the sails of why we were all here to begin with, solid community members disappeared and increasingly fewer came about to pick up their slack, it became more like sending messages into the void, and like "why bother?" Does anyone here have even a remote interest in the same things that I still care about regarding gaming or collecting anymore? As the sentiment has increasingly felt like a resounding "no" on both fronts, my desire to participate only diminished further. Gotta be honest.

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General / Re: How Many Video Games Do You Think Exist Today?
« on: June 02, 2024, 11:14:47 pm »
Good lord, folks are just selling ZIP files full of downloads one could go find for themselves. Yeah, those are not legal to be sold, but it's a cottage market so Nintendo most likely doesn't care too much (they probably will at some point) and other publishers less so.

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