Author Topic: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites  (Read 1720 times)

Warmsignal

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2019, 09:11:00 pm »
Right now I'd have to say my favorites are mostly the games I played as a kid.

Super Mario World
Super Mario Kart
Super Punch Out
Donkey Kong Country
Yoshi's Island
Sunset Riders
Faceball 2000

Make no mistake, I do think it's a very good system but even then, I think it's overrated. I feel like many killer app lists nowadays are somewhat embellished.

can we really say that the snes is over rated considering that it's one of the few consoles with the best 16 bit games of it's era?

snes along with genesis are top picks thanks to there large library of them 16 bit games

what are your other options saturn or ps1 with their 32 bit games. admittedtly some excellent games there but a way smaller library since the focus was on 3d not 2d. even for saturn.

and than you have pc engine turbografx in wich the grapics are usually worse and games that look comparable or better than some above average snes games are very rare but same can be said for the snes in wich the highs are way better looking than even those pc engine games

the sound on pc engine it's lacking in comparison unless you have the cd rom option but that's like saturn teritory if cd options are included.

neo geo aes some great games on there but mostly 2d fighting games.

if your looking for 2d fighting games sure 32 bit way to go. but otherwise it's kinda hard to say that the snes is over rated since it has one of the biggest 16 bit libraries not to mention some of the best games released in the 16 bit era

sure you could fit in lookalike retro indi games of today with them modern day features implemented but even than i disagree not to mention were talking about retro consoles not modern ones.

even if we would only include the first party titles on snes super mario world yoshi's island link to the past super metroid for those reason alone it's kinda hard to say that the snes is over rated with such classics wich can not be found on any other retro console not to mention zelda and mario both being top quality series to this very day usually having the best games for the system.

I was speaking more to the general popularity of the console compared to all other generations and consoles. Speaking strictly of 16 bit consoles, I still think it's a bit overrated while the Genesis/Mega Drive offers a very similar level of quality. However, due to SOA/SOE marketing strategy favoring sports and more mature content, the broader library of first party Sega games on it to this day remain somewhat obscure, while Nintendo's offerings were/are widely recognized. Gen is often written off entirely by those who grew up without playing one. While SNES is retroactively praised for the vast selection of J-RPGs, which IMO are (and certainly were back then) a niche genre in the west.

For the record, I would easily take any one of the original Sonic trilogy over Super Mario World. That's not to say I think Genesis is all around better, but in plenty of instances, I'd say it's a very close call. Yet SNES to this day is still praised like it's the definitive and only 16 bit console that matters.

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Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2019, 12:35:54 am »
SNES is my favourite console of all time. It had some absolutely amazing games from every genre.

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sworddude

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2019, 08:08:40 am »
Right now I'd have to say my favorites are mostly the games I played as a kid.

Super Mario World
Super Mario Kart
Super Punch Out
Donkey Kong Country
Yoshi's Island
Sunset Riders
Faceball 2000

Make no mistake, I do think it's a very good system but even then, I think it's overrated. I feel like many killer app lists nowadays are somewhat embellished.

can we really say that the snes is over rated considering that it's one of the few consoles with the best 16 bit games of it's era?

snes along with genesis are top picks thanks to there large library of them 16 bit games

what are your other options saturn or ps1 with their 32 bit games. admittedtly some excellent games there but a way smaller library since the focus was on 3d not 2d. even for saturn.

and than you have pc engine turbografx in wich the grapics are usually worse and games that look comparable or better than some above average snes games are very rare but same can be said for the snes in wich the highs are way better looking than even those pc engine games

the sound on pc engine it's lacking in comparison unless you have the cd rom option but that's like saturn teritory if cd options are included.

neo geo aes some great games on there but mostly 2d fighting games.

if your looking for 2d fighting games sure 32 bit way to go. but otherwise it's kinda hard to say that the snes is over rated since it has one of the biggest 16 bit libraries not to mention some of the best games released in the 16 bit era

sure you could fit in lookalike retro indi games of today with them modern day features implemented but even than i disagree not to mention were talking about retro consoles not modern ones.

even if we would only include the first party titles on snes super mario world yoshi's island link to the past super metroid for those reason alone it's kinda hard to say that the snes is over rated with such classics wich can not be found on any other retro console not to mention zelda and mario both being top quality series to this very day usually having the best games for the system.

I was speaking more to the general popularity of the console compared to all other generations and consoles. Speaking strictly of 16 bit consoles, I still think it's a bit overrated while the Genesis/Mega Drive offers a very similar level of quality. However, due to SOA/SOE marketing strategy favoring sports and more mature content, the broader library of first party Sega games on it to this day remain somewhat obscure, while Nintendo's offerings were/are widely recognized. Gen is often written off entirely by those who grew up without playing one. While SNES is retroactively praised for the vast selection of J-RPGs, which IMO are (and certainly were back then) a niche genre in the west.

For the record, I would easily take any one of the original Sonic trilogy over Super Mario World. That's not to say I think Genesis is all around better, but in plenty of instances, I'd say it's a very close call. Yet SNES to this day is still praised like it's the definitive and only 16 bit console that matters.

even only Sonic 1 vs mario world that's kinda interesting.

I love sega a ton more than the snes. but the sonic games while they are good they are not the best games on the system. if there is anything that is over rated it's them sonic games on the sega system. so many people that just say sonic only when they are thinking of sega that's all they care about.

also in my opinion comparing mario world to the sonic trilogy including the sonic & knuckles upgrade It's like comparing a ferrari to a used mediocre car seriously.

There is so much more content in super mario world also in terms of gameplay tons more replay value. and it's was a console released game aswell unlike sonic 3 wich was a late release to profit for them best grapics and stuff.

3.5 games vs 1 loses to mario world there is much love for mario world but for good reason. allot of people consider it to be the best mario game and that's quite heavy considering mario produces some of the best games out there to this day to still rank that game number 1. same goes for zelda on snes.

I highly doubt a sonic maker would see the same kinds of succes as mario maker. the replay value in them 2d mario games was endless. many secrets tons of lvl's. It's not like sega hasnt tried to make new sonic games in them classic styles but it just hasnt aged as well as mario world.

mario world ain't my favourite game on snes but i can see why it is near the top unlike sonic.

That's coming from someone who heavily prefers the genesis/ megadrive over the snes.

nothing against sonic them 16 bit trilogy games are very good but they are far from the best games on the system unlike mario world wich is near the top of the snes library.

I feel like people put sonic games in every top 10 becuase they try to compare it to mario and that it's sega's most only popular mascot that brought the 16 bit sega console tons of succes not to mention i do agree that the library of sega is way less known than nintendo's so sonic is kinda easy to fit on that list unlike them other titles.

it's just my opinion obviously I get that there are also a ton of people who prefer them sonic games over mario world i could see that.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2019, 08:23:34 am by sworddude »
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Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2019, 08:27:45 am »
Yoshi's Island is better than Mario World.

Cartagia

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2019, 08:53:34 am »
Counterpoint - Yoshi’s Island is one of the most over-praised games of all time, and isn’t that good.



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sworddude

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2019, 09:02:57 am »
it still has super mario world 2 in the title even if gameplay is different  ::)
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Cartagia

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2019, 09:26:16 am »
Well, if we’re talking Sonic... none of those games are particularly good.  Flashy, well coded, great production design, but overall not very fun plaformers.  All flash and no substance, IMO.



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Warmsignal

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2019, 09:56:37 pm »
You're all heathens. The original Sonic games are ace - there is replay value, there are "secrets" within the levels, the soundtrack is the best ever, the difficultly perfectly balanced, there's a two player option in 2 and 3. It doesn't matter that 3 was a late release, so was Kirby's Dream Land 3. Talk about a late release, are you going to dock points for that one? No, it's Nintendo, so you're going to tell me it's one of the best Kirby games ever.

Sorry, but Dr. Robtnik's Mean Bean Machine trounces Super Mario World. I postulate that anyone throwing shade on these games has never had the patience to actually learn how to play and get beyond Green Hill Zone. That used to be me, but I was child. As an adult, I can actually complete these games now and I am very impressed with them.

Cartagia

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2019, 10:23:55 pm »
Nah, Kirby games aren’t that good either.  Charming, sure.  Good games?  Not really.
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Warmsignal

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2019, 10:36:11 pm »

sworddude

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2019, 04:51:11 am »
i agree starlight zone and casino night where some nice tracks I'll give them sonic games that such tracks are better than majority or perhaps all of mario world tracks. the boss tracks where ok only a few of them where really good such as sonic 3 final boss ost

I've beaten them sonic games. there good but it's not the be it all on the sega 16 bit console even sonic 3. I've also played sonic 2 and 3 back in the day allot at my older cousins house 2 player mode who owned a sega even finished it there. sonic 1 is the only one wich I played way later on.

also sonic 3 is a late release with all them fancy stuff since people know how to work with the system and still mario world wins easily as a console release game at the very beginning when everthing was new compared to a late released game.

fair enough though late release does not mean succes if we look at for example megaman x1 till x3.
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Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2019, 09:41:10 am »
The SNES is my single favorite console, with games like Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid and Terranigma cementing this.

Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2019, 01:50:41 pm »
Super Mario World




Super Mario World is one of the universal greatest games of all time.  If I had to pick one game, that would be grailed as the best game of all time without personal bias involved.  i'd have to pick it.  Everyone knows it, has seen the cover,  anyone can pick it up and play but not everyone can master it.  It has the perfect mix of simplicity for kids and complexity for adults.  It's colorful, it's fun,  it's iconic.  The bosses are more memorable than the last.  Thier is not one ounce of this game that is flawed that I can find.  Not the music, not the graphics, not the gameplay.  It's probably the standard most modern age Sidescrollers (including nintendo themselves) base their content around.  It's perfection. 


If you love the older Marios or the Newer Ones.  This one will fit right at home.  It just makes you feel back in time again.  Getting lost in the worlds is something special.   I have beaten it about 4 times and I only recently played it for the first time.  Sadly I was a 2000 baby lol. 


Zombies ate my Nieghbors




Zombies ate my Neighbors is such an odd ball, off the wall game that it's so beloved as a cult classic but also didn't sell as many copies as some of the A tier games.  It's really fun, and probably the best game to play with a friend.   It's funny, it's quirky and it is especially cool around halloween time.  :)

Although it's fairly pricy. 


Turtles in Time




It's turtles in time lol.  Can't go wrong.  It's one of the greatest beat em ups of all time.  (The SNES is definitely known for it's beat em ups).    It has amazing fight mechanics, excellent hit system,  amazing level design, bosses,  and is also yet another game that is incredible with a friend.   It's simply amazing. 

Yet another fairly pricey cart though. 


F-Zero



Mezmorizing graphics,  the soundtrack of this game and pilotwings are esentially anthems.  Full blown orchestral masterpieces.  Better than most radio music.  Just 16 bits of pure action packed gritty rock synths and heart pumping visuals.  It's an incredible experience.  And it pushed the SNES's graphic abilities quite a bit with the linear racing.   It's very fast paced,  amazing frames and it's beautiful to look at and play. 



Honorable mentions

Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze (Most people's must have pick,  I think it's too hard)
Super Metroid  (Never tried it but people say it's one of the best games ever made)
Zelda Link to the Past  (The purists pick for best Zelda game,  very great :D )
Adventures of Batman and Robin  (I'm sad I sold this one :(.  Almost as good a Turtles in Time.  Amazing beat em up)






Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2019, 01:58:58 pm »
Nah, Kirby games aren’t that good either.  Charming, sure.  Good games?  Not really.


I was going to argue, I wanted to so bad.  But than I sat back and realized.  Yeah....  You're right.  Sonic was pretty basic looking back.  Just had incredible music and was fast so as a kid it made me excited.  Kinda like how energy drinks aren't good tasting really but it's carbonated sugar so it's going to make you excited when you drink it.   

Then you got into Yoshi's Island.  A overrated game imo too.   The baby crying makes me annoyed.  And it's not quite the standard of the 1st.


But then you HAD to mention my Pink puff brother  ;D.   The all mighty Kirby himself....    The most beloved pink hero to ever grace dreamland?    Ditto's abusive uncle.  Ditto's Alcholic stepdad.  Ditto's husband.  Ditto's idol.   Everything ditto dreams to be.   

The one and only pink ameeeeba thingy that can be anything it's heart wants.  A sword wielding badass,  a fire spitting dragon. 


Thems fighting words sir lol. 



Re: Super Nintendo/Super Famicom Games Discussion and Favorites
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2019, 04:25:35 pm »

Honorable mentions

Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze (Most people's must have pick,  I think it's too hard)

Uh, I don't think this game belongs in the Super Nintendo conversation. Great game though.