Are Details within the Databse being deleted?

[vivigamer]

Hi,

I've noticed recently that a lot of the details on the entries are turning up Blank. Many I know that I have added details to before seem to have N/A on most catagories and the  Disc & Back image deleted. I know Tombi 1 & 2 (I re-did them) were done and Bloody Roar 4 just as a couple of examples. I'm just wondering if I am the only one to notice this?

[Nickkchilla]

Not at all. There are some entries that are being altered/removed despite having been in the database correctly for quite some time.

Recently, I noticed a Lost Odyssey entry for the Xbox 360 was categorized as "NA" yet the title for the entry was changed to read "Lost Odyssey [CA]". The entry details still reads as if it is from the NA region.

I had to remove the entry I've had in my collection for about a year to whatever the newer one was, as I don't own Xbox games from that region. It's a little odd, though I remember there being a post awhile back stating the database had to be rolled back and some newly added entries may have gone missing.

There's also an entry for a gray game cube memory card in my collection that had its picture removed. Some Limited Run Games entries have also been removed due to water marks, though others games are still in the database with the same watermarks.

These are only some examples. You can always take a look at the style guide and the "Error Listings and rejected edits 2020" thread and point those out though.

Edit: As I posted this, I noticed the artwork for the blue and red memory cards I have in my PlayStation 2 accessory collection has also disappeared, haha!

[telly]

I know I've been trying to get the watermarks off of the LRG games, but I haven't been requesting the entries be removed. The "soundtrack" bundles have been removed because they aren't sold in a way that would make them a unique entry, apparently.

Certainly a game with a watermark as the image is not "correct" and I've been trying to fix them as I can.

[tripredacus]

Any actions taken on entries will show up in the history tab. The only thing that does not show up in the history tab is when a DB Admin deletes a picture.
Items are often deleted from art slots if the front art has a watermark or is a constructed marketing image. Back art is deleted if the picture is not a back picture, media if it is not the media.

See the Item Images post in the Advanced Style Guide for information about images.

If you have any examples of specific entries where information has disappeared, post them. Also note which fields the information issue happened in.

[pzeke]

Not at all. There are some entries that are being altered/removed despite having been in the database correctly for quite some time.

Recently, I noticed a Lost Odyssey entry for the Xbox 360 was categorized as "NA" yet the title for the entry was changed to read "Lost Odyssey [CA]". The entry details still reads as if it is from the NA region.

I had to remove the entry I've had in my collection for about a year to whatever the newer one was, as I don't own Xbox games from that region. It's a little odd, though I remember there being a post awhile back stating the database had to be rolled back and some newly added entries may have gone missing.

There's also an entry for a gray game cube memory card in my collection that had its picture removed. Some Limited Run Games entries have also been removed due to water marks, though others games are still in the database with the same watermarks.

These are only some examples. You can always take a look at the style guide and the "Error Listings and rejected edits 2020" thread and point those out though.

Edit: As I posted this, I noticed the artwork for the blue and red memory cards I have in my PlayStation 2 accessory collection has also disappeared, haha!

*We really need a spoiler tag!

Sometimes there are entries where the images are for either a variant or from a different region, so it gets edited to reflect this, and then another entry for the correct game is created. There have also been instances where it's the opposite, where the info is for a variant or for another region and the images are wrong, which also gets corrected. I've edited a few entries in the past due to these.

[sworddude]

I've seen worse examples


English boxed copies turned into german spanish or french box versions including region and pictures.

Those are pretty annoying, everyone on the site has that european say 50 - 200 people own them had that game in the collection and somebody had to change it. To how many did that change apply aside from the one who changed it. why not make a new entry instead of altering a current one if you wanted that specific region. the examples usually have english box art aswell wich also gets altered to german or spanish counter parts.


In wich afterwards people to make a new entry with the correct region in wich just 2 people own because formerly a UKV version of said game changed into some spanish or german version. while all the other stick in a flawed entry for them to than eventually spot an incorrect region after weeks or month in their collection.

Those are the worst.

[tripredacus]

I've seen worse examples

English boxed copies turned into german spanish or french box versions including region and pictures.

why not make a new entry instead of altering a current one if you wanted that specific region.
Those are the worst.

Those are just what you end up seeing. What you do not see is that users often will find a game entry for something, say a game that was released on two consoles... doesn't matter how popular or obscure the title is. If say, we have an entry for a PS4 game but it also came out on Xbox One, but for whatever reason we have an entry for the PS4 game but not the Xbox One game. A user will edit the PS4 entry, try to change all of the info and put it in the Xbox One category. It is the extreme version of an entry hijack that happens at least once a week. Of course, this type of thing shouldn't get approved.

[telly]

Something that's nice about other sites like Discogs is when an item in your collection is edited by someone the system sends you a message to let you know. Wish something like that was implemented here.

[Faalagorn]

Something that's nice about other sites like Discogs is when an item in your collection is edited by someone the system sends you a message to let you know. Wish something like that was implemented here.

That would be a killer feature indeed and would certainly ease some headache for some people.

What about entries that got removed though? As far as I remember, the owners are carried to the another variant right? That is also sub-obtimal sometimes and would be nice to have notification from.

[pzeke]

Something that's nice about other sites like Discogs is when an item in your collection is edited by someone the system sends you a message to let you know. Wish something like that was implemented here.

Taking into account I currently have in my collection a few games I don't actually own since the original entries were edited, I wouldn't be opposed to that.

[vivigamer]

I am still finding that when I go back to games there are details being deleted:
https://vgcollect.com/item/50369

I know for a fact (!) I have gone through Hogs of War for example, now a lot of the details have N/A again. The pictures I posted for the listing are still there, which seems to be the case all of the time but it is just the details which are being reset and I'm still wondering as to why.

[dhaabi]

I know for a fact (!) I have gone through Hogs of War for example, now a lot of the details have N/A again. The pictures I posted for the listing are still there, which seems to be the case all of the time but it is just the details which are being reset and I'm still wondering as to why.

On a similar note, there are entries which I have replaced their images that never updated despite being approved. Usually it takes a day or two for the replacement images to publicly show, but I know of at least four separate entries which I've updated longer 5+ days ago that still show the artwork which was approved to be replaced.

[telly]

I know for a fact (!) I have gone through Hogs of War for example, now a lot of the details have N/A again. The pictures I posted for the listing are still there, which seems to be the case all of the time but it is just the details which are being reset and I'm still wondering as to why.

On a similar note, there are entries which I have replaced their images that never updated despite being approved. Usually it takes a day or two for the replacement images to publicly show, but I know of at least four separate entries which I've updated longer 5+ days ago that still show the artwork which was approved to be replaced.

You have to reset your image cache to view new images after they are updated, did you try doing that?

[dhaabi]

You have to reset your image cache to view new images after they are updated, did you try doing that?

Clearing my image cache solved the problem—thanks! Although this does seem to be an oversight in updating entries. I imagine that the average user isn't clearing their cache daily.

[tripredacus]

This is a function of your browser and the settings, there is nothing we can do about client image caching.
Instead of going through and blasting your whole cache, you can use Ctrl+F5 (on PC) to do a non-cached reload of a single page to update the image. Sometimes it happens to me, I just have to do that to verify an image is updated.