Author Topic: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024  (Read 10448 times)

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #135 on: July 15, 2024, 10:59:09 am »
Regarding the DBZ and Mario PS2 games, they are not homebrews. And I want to be clear for any instance of a licensed property getting a romhack or a fan-game, those are not homebrews either. Homebrew can only be used on "game data" (aka items in digital categories) or OC. Fan-games that use existing IP are not homebrews, so they should be set to unofficial release.

And the DBZ and Mario PS2 games should only have entry if there is a physical release. It doesn't matter if they are bootlegs or not, bootlegs exist in many game categories. We are not one of those sites that forbids bootlegs. Now if there is no actual pressed version of those PS2 games, then they cannot be added. So if they only exist as ISO and not pressed, so they can be burned and played on hacked system, or using emulator, we do not yet track that type of thing. We want to be able to do it eventually, but we have to figure out how to be able to actually make entries for games and attach them to the existing entries for physical items. When we can do that, they we can have support for console-based ROMs that were not released on physical media, official or otherwise.

Regarding the Driven to Desctruction game, we are allowing the entry until it is proven that it doesn't exist, which may require contacting the game's original publisher.

leonefamily

PRO Supporter

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #136 on: July 16, 2024, 09:24:03 am »
I tried to edit item #3526 by updating the front and back box art. I got this rejection note:

Submitted artwork is attempting existing data to change entry's identity. Previous approved submissions reverted or changed. A new entry will need to be submitted if you're wanting to add this specific item. https://www.ebay.com/itm/305594728779

The thing is, I'm updating the images because the current images are of the box without the slipcover. My images were of the slipcover. The EBay listing provided by the admin is just some dude who's trying to pass off an incomplete set as a CIB.
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leonefamily

PRO Supporter

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #137 on: July 16, 2024, 09:30:16 am »
And to add to my previous post, dhabbi added item number 32587.209.US, which is the item number on the box art under the slipcover. But the slipcover itself has a different item number, as it says "Box part number 32587.491.US".
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dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #138 on: July 16, 2024, 09:30:38 am »
I tried to edit item #3526 by updating the front and back box art.

If the information is re-submitted, it will be approved. Both the slipcover and case item numbers should be mentioned in the Description field.

leonefamily

PRO Supporter

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #139 on: July 16, 2024, 09:49:31 am »
Done, thanks dhaabi.

Just pointing out that the EBay item can not be proven to be CIB since no barcode is present. Sometimes the barcode can be just a sticker on the seal wrap (which then gets lost when the item is opened) but this is rare and 95% of games without a barcode are just games missing a slipcover. Anyways it can't be proven that a specific release has a "seal wrap sticker barcode" as long as we don't have pictures of a factory sealed copy. And the contrary, games that do have a barcode on the back cover art, doesn't necessarily mean that this game never had a slipcover.

Thanks again.
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dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #140 on: July 16, 2024, 10:54:18 am »
Just pointing out that the EBay item can not be proven to be CIB since no barcode is present. Sometimes the barcode can be just a sticker on the seal wrap (which then gets lost when the item is opened) but this is rare and 95% of games without a barcode are just games missing a slipcover. Anyways it can't be proven that a specific release has a "seal wrap sticker barcode" as long as we don't have pictures of a factory sealed copy. And the contrary, games that do have a barcode on the back cover art, doesn't necessarily mean that this game never had a slipcover.

Thousands upon thousands of game items exist, and each should be treated on an individual level despite any regularities which often can be noticed. In this situation, I came across a number of sealed keepcase copies of The Movies. But, without knowing how this item was released, this keepcase without a barcode sequence easily could have been a part of a larger boxed collection. So, it's better to reject these sorts of entry changes when unsure and to begin a dialogue concerning it.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2024, 12:24:02 pm by dhaabi »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #141 on: July 21, 2024, 01:22:01 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/242405

This was suggested to be moved to the Apple Accessory category (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10192.msg206160.html#msg206160), since it's an iPhone accessory, not a PS5 one. Does the "Playstation" branding overrides it?

https://playbackbone.com/products/backbone-one-playstation/

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #142 on: July 21, 2024, 01:29:14 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/225045

Same reasoning as why USK-rated games must carry the DE mark or anything ClassInd must go to BR. SMECCV = MX (where SMECCV is enforced by law)

Here's a listing with Spanish + ESRB from MercadoLibre Chile: https://articulo.mercadolibre.cl/MLC-2493653946-ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5-_JM), one from WePlay Chile (the only big box retailer left in the country) (https://www.weplay.cl/preventa-ratchet-clank-rift-apart-ps5.html), and one from Sony Chile (https://store.sony.cl/ps5-ratchet-clank-rift-apart/p)


Editing for other countries:

Argentina: https://store.sony.com.ar/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart/p
Peru: https://phantom.pe/ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5.html
Colombia: https://gamer4ever.com.co/products/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart-fisico-nuevo
Uruguay: https://www.macrotec.com.uy/ratchet-clank-rift-apart-nuevo-ps5
Ecuador: https://store.sony.com.ec/ratchet-y-clank-ps5/p
« Last Edit: July 21, 2024, 02:19:41 pm by theodw »

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #143 on: July 22, 2024, 10:25:51 am »
No, it became clear in the recent Style Discurrion thread that PlayStation has become a brand on its own that is separate from the console itself. Similar to how Microsoft treats everything under its gaming division as Xbox. So this is an iPhone Accessory...

BUT the issue here is the Apple category is only for computers (where tablets count) and consoles and not for phones.
So the only place this should be put is Other Accessory
https://vgcollect.com/browse/accessory

https://vgcollect.com/item/242405

This was suggested to be moved to the Apple Accessory category (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10192.msg206160.html#msg206160), since it's an iPhone accessory, not a PS5 one. Does the "Playstation" branding overrides it?

https://playbackbone.com/products/backbone-one-playstation/

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #144 on: July 22, 2024, 10:27:48 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/225045

Same reasoning as why USK-rated games must carry the DE mark or anything ClassInd must go to BR. SMECCV = MX (where SMECCV is enforced by law)

Here's a listing with Spanish + ESRB from MercadoLibre Chile: https://articulo.mercadolibre.cl/MLC-2493653946-ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5-_JM), one from WePlay Chile (the only big box retailer left in the country) (https://www.weplay.cl/preventa-ratchet-clank-rift-apart-ps5.html), and one from Sony Chile (https://store.sony.cl/ps5-ratchet-clank-rift-apart/p)

Editing for other countries:

Argentina: https://store.sony.com.ar/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart/p
Peru: https://phantom.pe/ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5.html
Colombia: https://gamer4ever.com.co/products/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart-fisico-nuevo
Uruguay: https://www.macrotec.com.uy/ratchet-clank-rift-apart-nuevo-ps5
Ecuador: https://store.sony.com.ec/ratchet-y-clank-ps5/p

This entry is fine on its own. It doesn't get TLD in the title because there is no other entry in the PS5 [NA] with the same name. It has release country in description.

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« Reply #145 on: July 23, 2024, 11:21:15 am »
No, it became clear in the recent Style Discurrion thread that PlayStation has become a brand on its own that is separate from the console itself. Similar to how Microsoft treats everything under its gaming division as Xbox. So this is an iPhone Accessory...

BUT the issue here is the Apple category is only for computers (where tablets count) and consoles and not for phones.
So the only place this should be put is Other Accessory
https://vgcollect.com/browse/accessory

https://vgcollect.com/item/242405

This was suggested to be moved to the Apple Accessory category (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10192.msg206160.html#msg206160), since it's an iPhone accessory, not a PS5 one. Does the "Playstation" branding overrides it?

https://playbackbone.com/products/backbone-one-playstation/

That would be the case had the discussion yielded a poll or anything fruitful from the community at large, but the topic was deemed unimportant from everyone else but staff. As you mentioned in the topic, "option 6 is winning without a poll." So, there is nothing wrong with 242045 and its current category placement.

6. Keep it as "wherever" placement as long as there isn't any dupes.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2024, 12:19:19 pm by dhaabi »