Author Topic: Error Listings 2018  (Read 32259 times)

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2018, 01:03:42 pm »
Definitely a game that comes with an accessory.

We can't make that assumption because there is no standard to how these items are labelled. Either we have use the categories as intended:
- consoles go into hardware
- accessories go into accessories
- games go into games

Or it just is wild west and we can put any item into any category? If you wouldn't put a console into a game category, just because it came with a game, then you wouldn't put an accessory in a game category for the same reason. If you want to get technical, then it would be allowed to put a Sega Master System into SMS [NA] games category because it came with Snail Maze built-in and was not sold separately?
You conveniently left out the important part of my statement.  The fact that these are absolutely branded and advertised as the game in question.  There is a specific difference between these items.

What your black and white distribution is doing is putting games into accessories.  The hierarchy of importance goes Consoles > Games > Accessories.  If it includes a console, it goes under consoles.  If it does not include a console, but it includes a game, then it goes under games.  If it does not include a console, and does not include a game, then it goes under accessories.  That's how simple it works without it being "the wild west".

Consoles are not branded specifically as a game, they are branded and advertised as hardware that includes a game.  These games are branded and advertised as the game that includes an accessory.  Another example is the fact that no store would ever file these under an Accessory in their inventory, they would be sold as games, not accessories.

The SMS analogy doesn't work because the game isn't physical, it's a digital copy, we don't file digital copies under physical categories.  Not only that, but the game is a physical part of the system and cannot be removed, transferred, or separated from the hardware, it is an extension of it.


tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2018, 02:08:35 pm »
Why?  Because I only have the complete flightstick bundle, but now that that is no longer considered a game, if I want to see the game listed under PS2[NA] I have to go add AC5 separately from the complete bundle.  Now I have 2 of AC5 in my collection.  In your eyes, you see it listed as the flightstick and the PS2 game separately (which is ridiculous because that's not how it was sold).

That is your decision to manage your collection in that way. How the database is arranged has no bearing on how a person has to manage their collection, or dictate how they consider things or arrange items in their own house.

"In my eyes" I have already posted many times how I see things with my eyes, and the db is not currently able to do these things. So we have to work with what we have.

Either we allow pack-in games or we do not. If pack-in games are allowed, then the main item (if not a game) goes into their appropriate category (accessory or hardware) and the pack-in game is in the game category. If pack-in games are not allowed, then we can put the console and accessory in the game category because they come with a game. Suddenly, people will have a bunch of consoles in their collection just because they own NFR games.

It is either one way or the other. Otherwise you are then tasking us to come up with a complicated sorting system to decide what items count as "accessory with game" vs "game with accessory" and why they are considered that way, and then expect all of our users to follow those arbitrary rules and for all admins to enforce them properly. Then when someone says "why is this a game and this is an accessory" we can point them to a 100 page document stating why.

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2018, 07:48:08 am »
I was wondering why the Retron 5 is in Hardware (Other) while the other Retrons are just in "Hardware".

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2018, 11:08:21 am »
Moved both to Hardware [NA].

Hardware [Other] should be for items not released in North America, Europe or Japan.

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2018, 09:48:35 pm »
Star Trek: Encounters (PS2 - EU)
https://vgcollect.com/item/141764

That item was created with ESRB rated pictures while the data said that it was an USK variant, i already edited the front and back cover with the USK 12 rated covers but the picture of the disc need to be deleted.

« Last Edit: March 26, 2018, 09:56:17 am by tripredacus »

fazerco

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Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2018, 01:02:32 pm »
« Last Edit: March 29, 2018, 09:44:41 am by tripredacus »

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2018, 10:06:22 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/9259 Remove?

Is it a real game or no? Since it has an old number, it must have been created from a list (like most other old games on the site) and while it seems that there is no game with that title, I had found it on 2 game lists (one of which is only in google's cache atm) such as:
http://www.sorethumbretrogames.com/atari-lynx-games-list

There is no problem to remove it, but first I would want to make sure that this isn't some translation issue, or perhaps a bootleg game's name.

fazerco

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Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2018, 01:19:32 pm »
Reason:   Poor Image Quality. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.

Poor reasoning. Image that was there was wrong, so better a wrong picture then a poor picture?

https://vgcollect.com/item/122371

Here is the poor but right picture: https://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/video-games/platformen/nintendo-gamecube/3742927-x-men-next-dimension?area=a22ae46fab8959378799a87c5414efc7cb9c32b5

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2018, 09:43:40 am »
There is a watermark on that image you linked to. See the "C" in the lower right hand corner.
If this picture is correct, it should be fine to use: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gamecube/546326-x-men-next-dimension/images/17177

fazerco

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Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2018, 12:31:08 pm »
There is a watermark on that image you linked to. See the "C" in the lower right hand corner.
If this picture is correct, it should be fine to use: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gamecube/546326-x-men-next-dimension/images/17177

Afcourse there is, i put it on that site and they put the watermark there. Im just showing the picture.......

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2018, 03:14:46 pm »
There is a watermark on that image you linked to. See the "C" in the lower right hand corner.
If this picture is correct, it should be fine to use: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gamecube/546326-x-men-next-dimension/images/17177

Afcourse there is, i put it on that site and they put the watermark there. Im just showing the picture.......

I see, I thought you meant that exact picture.

PS: I didn't reject that item change, I'm just keeping up with the forum posts and trying to help. ;)

fazerco

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Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2018, 01:01:19 pm »
There is a watermark on that image you linked to. See the "C" in the lower right hand corner.
If this picture is correct, it should be fine to use: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gamecube/546326-x-men-next-dimension/images/17177

Afcourse there is, i put it on that site and they put the watermark there. Im just showing the picture.......

I see, I thought you meant that exact picture.

PS: I didn't reject that item change, I'm just keeping up with the forum posts and trying to help. ;)

And i was trying to help the database. So maybe spend some time educating a few mods?

Btw, im not gonna change that picture due to my i only change it once, if somebody denys that change so be it rule.

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #57 on: March 28, 2018, 10:27:05 pm »
The following releases have been cancelled. They should be removed from the database.
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age (3DS, NA): https://vgcollect.com/item/130919
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age (3DS, EU): https://vgcollect.com/item/136222

« Last Edit: March 29, 2018, 09:46:17 am by tripredacus »

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2018, 09:46:49 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/9259 Remove?

Is it a real game or no? Since it has an old number, it must have been created from a list (like most other old games on the site) and while it seems that there is no game with that title, I had found it on 2 game lists (one of which is only in google's cache atm) such as:
http://www.sorethumbretrogames.com/atari-lynx-games-list

There is no problem to remove it, but first I would want to make sure that this isn't some translation issue, or perhaps a bootleg game's name.

Removed "About Atari Lynx Cheats" from Lynx [NA].

Re: Error Listings 2018
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2018, 08:32:50 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/141962

Based off of the picture, the entry is titled wrong and put under the wrong system, as it is not the upcoming remastered version for the One, but the Greatest Hits packaging version of the 360 game.