Category/Platform Requests 2.0

[dhaabi]

For the requested purpose of using the wishlist.

When items from those countries are proven to exist physically, we can add those sections. Pre-order pages are not enough.

If that is the stance being taken, then why was the parent category created at all at this time? The Switch 2 does not release until June 5, meaning no physical items are currently proven to exist.

But if we can't prove that the items exist which is the reason you've stated for denying other sub-categories, why are EU, JP, and NA being treated differently? There may be members who want to add regional items from the aforementioned regions I listed to their wish lists too. I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that either all or none of the categories should be created since they're all based on placeholder pre-order pages.

[goldenjustice]

Switch 2 Consoles, Switch 2 NA, EU and JP created. Those regional sections are for physical games only.
Will add the digital section once it is confirmed what it is called.
Will add other sub-cats when actual items are known to exist.

Thank you very much

[tripredacus]

For the requested purpose of using the wishlist.

When items from those countries are proven to exist physically, we can add those sections. Pre-order pages are not enough.

If that is the stance being taken, then why was the parent category created at all at this time? The Switch 2 does not release until June 5, meaning no physical items are currently proven to exist.

But if we can't prove that the items exist which is the reason you've stated for denying other sub-categories, why are EU, JP, and NA being treated differently? There may be members who want to add regional items from the aforementioned regions I listed to their wish lists too. I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that either all or none of the categories should be created since they're all based on placeholder pre-order pages.

NA and EU make up the majority of our userbase. JP not so much, but if JP sub-cat exists, that is where other region games can be put in the meantime.
New console launch drives engagement, it would be foolish to deny the ability for people to use the site for that, so concessions must be made.
Once we know what the online store is called, we can make that section but we might not know until someone boots up the console.

[dhaabi]

I would really like to know what is actually on these discs, if they are actually locked to the Polymega console or not. If they can only be played natively on the Polymega, then a Games category can be made, but if they can play on a computer with some form of Linux OS then they would not, and an argument could be made for them to exist in a PC games category.

I guess it all depends on the discs.

From one of the company's official blog posts:

Polymega Collection is an ongoing series of important classic and contemporary games on physical media, playable exclusively on Polymega. Our editions include the original title game, its international releases, as well as additional examples of games that influenced the work and those which were eventually inspired by it.

I reached out to Polymega support.

The site FAQ mentions that Polymega consoles run on Linux OS. Does this also mean that Polymega discs can run on Linux computer machines? Or are discs only usable with the Polymega console itself?

Thanks for your interest. Polymega Discs can only be played on the Polymega system. The discs also feature content that is viewable on a PC such as manuals and some art. Some Polymega games do come in a double disc pack that feature a disc playable on the original console such as Polymega Volume 2 Karate Champ which includes a version of Karnov's Revenge that is playable on the official Neo Geo CD console.

[tripredacus]

Added Polymega (games), Consoles and Accessory categories.

[dhaabi]

Requesting sections for the iQue family, alongside a (possible) update:
- Nintendo iQue Advance under Nintendo Game Boy Advance parent category
- Nintendo iQue DS under Nintendo DS parent category
- Nintendo iQue under Nintendo parent category to be updated to Nintendo iQue Player and moved to Nintendo 64 parent category (this seems to be a separate library of games from the one existing in the Nintendo 64 [CN] section)

Something I'll also mention is that the physical boxed "games" for iQue Player actually do not include any physical media since games were only available digitally through kiosks upon inserting a sort of memory card. Boxes instead include other various paper components such as instruction booklets. So, I'm not really sure what this means for the existing Games category, really. Neither Games nor Games - Digital types make sense for these physical items since, to me, they seem more like accessories. Perhaps a new Games - Digital category is needing to be created too for the actual games data. To me, the iQue seems a lot like Nintendo's Satellaview system, which we do not currently have a category for.

For reference, here is one entry I've already created that's currently placed in a JP section which I'll move upon a new category being made. Also, the iQue Wikipedia article may prove to be useful.

[tripredacus]

Game Boy Advance [CN] sub-cat added to Game Boy Advance cat.
sub-cats in GBA do not have manufacturer. The actual iQue GBA has the GBA name on the box. ique present in the abbreviation, but it is only for reference. Any CN game can go into here (and thus all non AU/EU/JP/NA games would get moved into here whether they are for Nintendo GBA, iQue or a bootleg.

iQue DS sub-cat added to Nintendo DS cat.
Because this is specific, this is only for iQue DS branded games. CN, boot, worldwide DS games would still reside in the JP sub-cat.

the N64 item, is branded as Nintendo iQue 神游机
Google translate has this being Senyou Ji or Shenyou Machine.
As you say there are no physical release games. Things like this:
https://jp.mercari.com/item/m66196746049
Are just a box and manual, I think they would be better of as an Accessory. However the console itself is not actually a "console" in our definition, it is a Dedicated Console. So the console would go into Dedicated Consoles and the game/instructions boxes would go into Other Accessory.

There has never been any approval to add digital games for non-internet games. No Sega Channel, Xband, Satellaview, etc games were to be added, despite our expanded ability for being able to add them to backlog, currently playing or finished lists. Neither do we track specific Blockbuster Game Factory type cartridges but we do track the cartridges on their own, just not with games written to them. Disk writer service for Japanese computers are tracked.

So that iQue N64 won't get any categories for it or its games.

[dhaabi]

the N64 item, is branded as Nintendo iQue 神游机
Google translate has this being Senyou Ji or Shenyou Machine.
As you say there are no physical release games. Things like this:
https://jp.mercari.com/item/m66196746049
Are just a box and manual, I think they would be better of as an Accessory. However the console itself is not actually a "console" in our definition, it is a Dedicated Console. So the console would go into Dedicated Consoles and the game/instructions boxes would go into Other Accessory.

There has never been any approval to add digital games for non-internet games. No Sega Channel, Xband, Satellaview, etc games were to be added, despite our expanded ability for being able to add them to backlog, currently playing or finished lists. Neither do we track specific Blockbuster Game Factory type cartridges but we do track the cartridges on their own, just not with games written to them. Disk writer service for Japanese computers are tracked.

So that iQue N64 won't get any categories for it or its games.

So, if the existing iQue 神游机 entries are moved into Other Accessory, what becomes of the Nintendo iQue section? If that sort of clearance were given to create sections for digital, non-internet games, could that section then be updated to an accessory section? If so, should we just wait before going through the process of re-categorizing those entries?

[tripredacus]

I see. There is an existing Nintendo iQue section I didn't notice.
After the games are moved to Other Accessory, then I will delete the sub-cat. Send me a PM when that is done.
If/when we get clearance for those non-internet digital games (basically this would be clearance for listing ROMs) then an iQue 神游机 (or whatever name we decide to use) digital games category can be created under Nintendo 64 section but those iQue boxes with nothing in them won't be moved anywhere, they will still just be in Other Accessory.

Or if you mean if ROMs are allowed to have listings (thus categories) then can iQue 神游机 get its own parent, with sub-cat for Consoles, Accessories and Digital Games? I'm sure that can be done.

But to be clear, this completely hinges on ROMs to be allowed entries, thus "digital" games for consoles. Personally I would prefer that game_data were enabled and things can be linked to those. It would allow for "Roms" (which is the same as game_data) and then we could consolidate all of the modern console and PC digital download entries as well.

[dhaabi]

Or if you mean if ROMs are allowed to have listings (thus categories) then can iQue 神游机 get its own parent, with sub-cat for Consoles, Accessories and Digital Games? I'm sure that can be done.

This is exactly the question I was trying to convey. But like you've said, there isn't any reason for these entries to remain where they are while we wait to see if such clearance is ever gained.

Edit: Just so it's easier to find these entries later on, they are these ones: 30841, 30842, 30843, 30844, 30845, 30846

[tripredacus]

Nintendo iQue sub-cat deleted.