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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings 2017
« on: January 18, 2017, 10:02:19 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/118238 Blank
 
https://vgcollect.com/item/118236 Not sure if he has already edited it, but is just a playstation game, not PSP according to the barcode.

First one says Robocop?
I changed the category.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings 2017
« on: January 13, 2017, 09:57:33 am »
All items with black box so far in this thread have had their images removed.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016
« on: January 10, 2017, 11:19:41 am »
I just really don't know what to do about this.

Munch
https://vgcollect.com/item/62318

Should it just be in the Steam category?
I don't know.  The picture shows Xbox.

Also, this exists.
https://vgcollect.com/item/16516

Also...
https://vgcollect.com/item/62319

Ok so far we see that Munch is a dupe of the Steam game, Strangers Wrath needs to be moved to Steam and have the art changed. Does that sound right?

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Site Feedback / Re: Bug?
« on: January 10, 2017, 10:57:27 am »
I believe the NA is created when a user deletes their account.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016
« on: January 10, 2017, 10:15:32 am »
I just really don't know what to do about this.

Munch
https://vgcollect.com/item/62318

Should it just be in the Steam category?

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: TPX VGCOLLECT R&D LIST
« on: January 09, 2017, 12:30:47 pm »
177 PS2 releases so far, not counting PSX or Test/Dev units. Started with a .txt doc as per my usual, moving over to a Google Sheet so I can easily sort the columns by model or barcode. I have a view-only link if you want to see. F/B/C columns are for pictures Front/Back/Cart. Only have transferred over Japan, US, Canada and Mexico.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-InVDuZN-r_ZymTM-HQY8FuhxbNN9fgQWbxmMhkFJTY/edit?usp=sharing

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Colon use discussion
« on: January 06, 2017, 11:10:38 am »
I still haven't heard a response to why Sonic Colors should not be called Sonic: Colors or why Sonic Boom is not Sonic: Boom.
How about Metroid Prime?
How about Donkey Kong Country on the SNES?
A final one, Mega Man Battle Network 6.

From me, it is because they should be used in those cases.

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And on the topic of Mega Man, a ton of games on the GC and GBA have no space between Mega and Man! So shouldn't the titles dor these games be Megaman? We know that the official name is "Mega Man" but because it's not represented that way on the box, why not Megaman?

In these cases, such as Mega Man X6 on PlayStation, the title should be Megaman X6, and have Mega Man X6 in alt-title. I know that it is Mega Man, and it says Mega Man in the copyright info and maybe it has Mega Man on the spine, but that is not what is on the cover. Having the other name in alt-name will solve any search issues. It can be put into the Description field that the name has no space on the cover. This is also why so many people will type it without the space, it is not because it is some comon typo, but it is because Capcom has actually used that name on their products.

But am I saying we should all go and change the Mega Man and DKC and Metroid Prime entries? No, there is other work that is more important than having to pretty up everything. If/when we get the different name fields, then that would definately be the time to go about doing that.

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Classic Video Games / Re: Two questions about your favorite consoles
« on: January 06, 2017, 10:46:32 am »
1) What is your favorite gaming console ever?
This is a tough one for me. I would want to say at first NES, because of the memories of childhood but I have not played NES really since then. So when I really want to think of it, I will have to say PS2.

2) What console do you have the most fun collecting for?
That would be Sega Genesis.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Colon use discussion
« on: January 05, 2017, 12:06:59 pm »
It seems correct on the entry already: https://vgcollect.com/item/15439

The cover has it as The Elder Scrolls Travels: Shadowkey.
Our writing would be Elder Scrolls Travels, The: Shadowkey.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Re: Listing Errors 2016
« on: January 05, 2017, 10:14:37 am »
Ultima Online's title is represented as a single title. The Elder Scrolls: Online is not. I don't think we are ignoring anything, as long as the alternate names are recorded. Personally, I still think that more generic type names for each should be used, and that the full name as represented by the packaging should be an alternate name.* But we can't pick and choose which way to have the name used in the main title. For any cataloging, the naming process has to be standardized the best way possible. Prior to my (admin) time here, it was decided by the community that full cover names need to be used in some cases (the Disney case) and so then this means this must be the rule for everything.

But at least we have the ability to put the other names on the item page.

*note from above, this is solely referring to the database side. It must be clear to anyone else reading this that the user/collector can (and will) think in totally different terms and that is fine. In the future, it would be nice if the user could choose what type of name is displayed when they view their collection, or possibly when they browse/search the site. Same goes for other preferences, such as people who would prefer to see controllers/accessories default picture be loose instead of their retail packaging.

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I will say any CD based console that failed solely because they invested heavily into FMV and FPS games.

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Kay-Bee bags as well.

I remember Kay-Bee from way back. Not to be confused with the also defunct KB Toys.

Why, they were the same company. Kay-Bee Toystore rebranded to KB Toys in the mid 90s.

In my area we had both existing at the same time. I assumed they were different, but the Kay Bee store closed long before the KB Toys did. Maybe it was something else all together but I thought it was called Kay Bee.

I don't know the exact history of it, but we had the same thing here. Perhaps they also had corporate stores and then franchise stores too? I know, for example, KB that was in one mall, and another mall it was still Kay-Bee. But I remember when the one changed their sign, and they did not redo all of their price tags so you could find old tags in the newly named store. Another example I remember is when we had both Gamestop and Electronics Boutique. I know the answer to that, it was the different type of stores, or management or something. Where the EBs in malls and the stand-alone EBs received name changes at different times. I think the stand alone stores got their names changed first and the mall stores were some months later.

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Kay-Bee bags as well.

I remember Kay-Bee from way back. Not to be confused with the also defunct KB Toys.

Why, they were the same company. Kay-Bee Toystore rebranded to KB Toys in the mid 90s.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Re: Listing Errors 2016
« on: January 03, 2017, 10:48:30 am »
So, if we did need some way to determine the subtitle of a game, why not used the official name? That's going to give us an unembellished, definitive answer that the box art simply cannot provide. It makes perfect sense to me at least, and it's simply not debatable that ESO is officially named with no colon on both the game's website or on Zenimax or Bethesda's website. Given that information, I think that's pretty convincing evidence that "online" is actually part of the name for this release. And I think that absolutely trumps the box art because the official name is right here in front of us: why should we ignore that?

It is not ignoring the official name. VGC is a database that tracks products, not games.

Online added to game titles goes back to when multiplayer only games first appeared. There was "this game" and then there was "this game: online" and the usage of the term is the same as back then. It is not "The Elder Scrolls" is it "The Elder Scrolls: Online" which also falls in line with all of the other games in The Elder Scrolls series. There are many examples where front cover title differs from spine title, title on the game media itself (disc or cart), title on the game's actual title screen, title in the copyright text/manual and certainly on official and fan websites.

So what we can do, is have the game title in the db based on our rules for categorization, put alternate names in alt-name and any other different naming used into the description. Perhaps some day we can have fields for all these different types of names, and then allow the users to choose which one is the default for them. So that way, if you prefer the game name to be prominent and not the actual item's name, you can choose to do that.

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