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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: The Rating List
« on: December 03, 2021, 09:29:52 am »
At this point I'd rather not add additional ratings until ratings can be reworked. I say this because I feel that all of these missing ratings (that are in this thread) should be something we could select, but also that adding them all into the drop-down list may be super annoying, especially since it would then space them out and most people are only using ACB, Cero, ELSPA, ESRB and PEGI options. Secondary to that is probably ClassInd.

If there is a better way to select ratings to put on entries then I would do it, but really would like to wait until a better way is determined.

Do we have a request to add SMECCV to the ratings list in the DB?
Would it be reasonable to request 2 drop downs?  1st dropdown is rating board, 2nd drop down is rating.

A bit more strict, but could also limit rating board options by region.  CERO isn't an option for NA, PEGI not an option for JP, ESRB not an option for EU, etc.

There is a lot of crossover in rating levels but not quite enough, besides having 2 drop downs as plain without any checks could result in incorrect combinations being selected. And it is not definite that ratings aren't available in other countries. The ideal way would be to limit initial rating selections to a region, and then allow the choice of additional ratings if the one you want to add is not listed. This would entail being able to set a region or country ID to a category, as well as to a rating. We can brainstorm about ways to accomplish it.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
« on: November 30, 2021, 11:47:11 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/172267

edit to change the title from "VenusBlood FRONTIER" to "VenusBlood FRONTIER International - Package Edition" was rejected, not quite sure why (but I'm guessing either all-caps subtitle

The reject was indeed because of the caps.

Going to have to take your word on whether "Package Edition" is actually present on the box, since I can't find any pictures of the actual box for this or the other one you linked to. I already corrected the caps issue on that other entry.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: The Rating List
« on: November 30, 2021, 09:29:19 am »
At this point I'd rather not add additional ratings until ratings can be reworked. I say this because I feel that all of these missing ratings (that are in this thread) should be something we could select, but also that adding them all into the drop-down list may be super annoying, especially since it would then space them out and most people are only using ACB, Cero, ELSPA, ESRB and PEGI options. Secondary to that is probably ClassInd.

If there is a better way to select ratings to put on entries then I would do it, but really would like to wait until a better way is determined.

Do we have a request to add SMECCV to the ratings list in the DB?

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Off Topic / Re: do you own any pets?
« on: November 29, 2021, 09:37:35 am »
A cat lives at my house but they are not owned by anyone.

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PC
Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed

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Site Feedback / Re: User reviews for entire database
« on: November 15, 2021, 09:24:22 am »
I'm not sure if i'm suggesting this in the right thread. I just think that the PC section of the database is too general. Maybe a DOS/Windows separation?

It is not the correct place and no, that is not an ideal way to do separation for that section. If anything it would be by media type.

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General / Re: What are you playing?
« on: November 12, 2021, 12:25:02 pm »
Still trying to play Europa Universalis IV for the 52 games challenge. The launcher says I've got just over 24 hours playtime on it. It is not an easy game to figure out and I think I'm still way behind. After about a day worth I was starting to get things figured out to the point where I wasn't (always) doing things that would doom me or cause other countries to wipe me out. Playing as Oirat which is like my 7th attempt, I got going good to have a decent army (big enough for neighbors not to attack but still too small to attack neighbors), and great economy and good happiness. It would still be a struggle to complete the goals as many were locked behind attacking Ming which has the largest military in the game.

I had finally gotten to that sacred 4X moment when you lose track of time. 4X, especially those made by Paradox, can be a real frustrating experience because there are a million things to do and the games doesn't really tell you what you are supposed to do or how anything works. The tutorial is severely lacking as it really doesn't do much.

Then the worst thing happened yesterday. They released an update. And the game says my save is incompatible. All that progress down the drain but then I figure OK I did make some mistakes in that run despite how well it was going. Why not just start a new game as the same country at the same time, etc. Well... there seems to be some bugs in the game now, as it constantly spawns in rebels (separatists) with decent size armies. Their army size is not a big deal, I can deal with them early on but the amount of army management that is required really hampers the ability to do anything else. Spending all my ducats on building army and maintenance, doesn't leave time to do anything else. And the rebel complaint is that I am not in wars. Well getting attacked by rebels so often doesn't afford me the ability to build up a big enough army to attack anyone. I hope that it is a bug and it gets resolved in the hotfix.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Rom² Karaoke PC Engine CD
« on: November 12, 2021, 09:58:41 am »
Whilst Victor Musical Industries used:
JCCD-9501
JCCD-9502
JCCD-9503
JCCD-9504
JCCD-9505

No hyphen on the item numbers for Victor releases.
I found two different Vol 3 on ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/302996105182
https://www.ebay.com/itm/302125734349
Note on these auctions the seller has the jewel case manual backwards, so the front covers are shown in the pictures that show the CD.

No spines on those tho, but both have Rom² as Rom² Karaoke (on NEC) and Rom² カラオケ (on Victor) releases.
NEC version uses a name "Volume 3" while the Victor version uses name "Vol 3" on their covers.
So that different in Volume vs Vol would be enough to differentiate them by name.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
« on: November 12, 2021, 09:52:08 am »
OK I will move it up my list of projects. Still might be a little while. ;)

Added request for Admin to create a VTech cat and move the two existing VTech sub-cats from Other into the new cat.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
« on: November 11, 2021, 11:17:15 am »
jjfly had been our most active Vtech user but he has not been on the site inawhile... hope everything is ok.
Without having his feedback, I do not know if this is still something that people want to get done or not. It is on my project list to handle, so would like some feedback on it.

Back on VTech, how would a new category and an arrangement like this look? Items with + would be new creations.

VTech
+ VTech InnoTab
- VTech MobiGo
+ VTech Socrates
+ VTech V.Flash
+ VTech V.Reader
- VTech V.Smile
+ VTech V.Smile Baby
+ VTech Hardware
+ VTech Accessories

Using 1 shared cat for all VTech hardware and all VTech accessories across all VTech consoles, and having cats for each console game type.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: TPX VGCOLLECT R&D LIST
« on: November 11, 2021, 11:08:12 am »
Just an update here since I haven't posted to this in awhile. I do something on the site every day but often forget to update the thread. Since last update:
- Gen/MD ID thread is done: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11326.0.html
- Saturn ID thread is done: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11539.0.html
- Game Gear ID thread is done: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11574.0.html
- Master System ID thread is in progress: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11614.0.html

The SMS thread is on hold as are the future ones I had planned, only because I wanted to make a concerted effort to get the images hosted on vgcollect instead of on Imgur. Not because Imgur is bad, but it is better to be the controllers of your own destiny. Still working with jason to get things figured out, not a huge priority at this point but I feel it is fine to take a break from the ID threads for now. Images used in the Adv Guide have been migrated from Imgur to my VGC gallery: https://vgcollect.com/gallery/tripredacus
Although I currently have more than 200 images for the ID threads on Imgur that I'd like to get moved over, we are having an issue with getting the site to allow that many images for a user gallery.

Other things that have been worked on is Spanish ZX Spectrum games and adding UK games if they exist so the Spanish games can use [ES] in the title. Of course not all of the Spanish games known to exist have scans, many do. Fortunately, sites like Mobygames has most of the UK/EU Spectrum games on their site to use as a reference.

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To summarise and to get this going a little more. This is to determine how pervasive the use of a hyphen is. Whether to limit the use of a hyphen to any "Edition name" or to items that have specific editions and/or re-release series as laid out in the Style Guide. I will leave out the second option regarding how multi-packs are handled because I think that solving this hyphen issue will automatically answer that question. I will add an additional option based on re-releases only so that it can potentially be decided also.

The options are as follows (examples in red of method 1/3 are the cause for the discussion, examples in green of alternative options showing how changes would look and do not necessarily mean they are "better" options)

Method 1: Continue to use the currently adopted way of using a hyphen on all edition names. This ignores common name rules for game that have "Edition" in their game titles.
• Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition
• Fallout: New Vegas - Collector's Edition
Sniper: Ghost Warrior Contracts / Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3 - Season Pass Edition - Unlimited Edition
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter - EX Edition - Taikenban (SLPM-80382)
Street Fighter II - Special Champion Edition
• Grand Theft Auto III - Greatest Hits
• Super Smash Bros. Melee - Player's Choice
• Daikatana - Sold Out Software
• Ghostbusters II - The Hit Squad

Method 2: Use the original Style Guide as it exactly is written under Games denoting Special/Limited Editions, Box Sets, re-release series and/or special packs. This takes into account common name rules for games that have "Edition" names in their titles.
• Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition
• Fallout: New Vegas - Collector's Edition
Sniper: Ghost Warrior Contracts / Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3: Season Pass Edition - Unlimited Edition
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter EX Edition - Taikenban (SLPM-80382)
Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition
• Grand Theft Auto III - Greatest Hits
• Super Smash Bros. Melee - Player's Choice
• Daikatana - Sold Out Software
• Ghostbusters II - The Hit Squad

Method 3: Change the original Style Guide to use hyphen for all Edition names and budget re-release versions use a descriptor instead. (This uses combination of Method 1 for edition naming)
• Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition
• Fallout: New Vegas - Collector's Edition
Sniper: Ghost Warrior Contracts / Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3 - Season Pass Edition - Unlimited Edition
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter - EX Edition - Taikenban (SLPM-80382)
Street Fighter II - Special Champion Edition
Grand Theft Auto III (Greatest Hits)
Super Smash Bros. Melee (Player's Choice)
Daikatana (Sold Out Software)
Ghostbusters II (The Hit Squad)

Method 4: Change the original Style Guide to use hyphen for extra Edition releases only and budget re-release versions use a descriptor instead. (This uses combination of Method 2 for edition naming)
• Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition
• Fallout: New Vegas - Collector's Edition
Sniper: Ghost Warrior Contracts / Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3: Season Pass Edition - Unlimited Edition
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter EX Edition - Taikenban (SLPM-80382)
Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition
Grand Theft Auto III (Greatest Hits)
Super Smash Bros. Melee (Player's Choice)
Daikatana (Sold Out Software)
Ghostbusters II (The Hit Squad)

Pack names for hardware and accessories will remain unchanged.
Method 3/4 just to give another option. Have been thinking about tabling this for awhile but I would understand if people didn't like changing things like Greatest Hits into a descriptor.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Rom² Karaoke PC Engine CD
« on: November 11, 2021, 09:48:04 am »
Make sure to detail what is wrong with the existing entries and what things should be looking like in this thread before trying to make any changes. That way we can have something to look at when edits go through.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
« on: November 08, 2021, 10:26:18 am »
It was before I had understood that sites would use a stock photo to represent any PEGI release in Europe but with no identifying information.

For generic EU entries like this, where a PEGI rating is present but no info, there are priorities for changing it. First is that an English language European release with PEGI rating must be found. These can be found on Ebay UK under either UK or European Union specific search parameters, or a [DK][FI][NO][SE] release. If neither of those are found to exist, then the entry would be changed to UK.

And that appears to be the case here, there is no English EU release and there is no [DK][FI][NO][SE] release, so it will be merged with UK version.

https://vgcollect.com/item/109545

Barcode is for UK Version, which already exists in the database so I'm going to remove the barcode.

What is the procedure for some of these more generic database entries without any discernible way to identify if they are X or Y variant?

Approved.

In EU categories, generic entries without discerning information would be modified to represent a general Europe release if such release exists and is not currently within the database. In the event that a general Europe release does not exist, the UK version (if, again, it also exists) would then default to this status. However, in this specific instance, it seems that no general Europe release exists while the UK release already exists within the database. Personally, I would probably merge 109545 with 39626; however, since tripredacus actually submitted 109545 long ago, I'll wait for their action.

I know that a France-specific release exists with the same cover art, but I highly doubt that the entry was submitted with that intent, as I'm sure that the entry would have been submitted with the [FR] TLD.


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Yeah, to follow up, afaik we are naming all of these games wrong as it is.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/663934-baldurs-gate-ii-enhanced-edition
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/switch/254640-child-of-light-ultimate-edition-valiant-hearts-the-great-war
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/switch/266181-skulls-of-the-shogun-bone-a-fide-edition

They all use colon to separate like I'm suggesting, in which case we use the hyphen to separate physical product packaging editioning like exists.

I think I'm suggesting that a vote isn't even necessary as we already account for this.  The game itself is named including the "edition" a la gamefaqs, but the physical packaging has its own edition which we already differentiate with a hyphen.

This is about semantics. Our rules are all "editions" get hyphens, but we do not have anything about when "edition" is part of a game's name, rather than being a special release like the original examples in the Style Guide.

EDIT: also we also only use "game titles" when referencing GameFAQs and not edition names, as often the Edition names on their entries are wrong. Their use of edition names are in parenthesis.

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