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Generally, I format pairs of items like these with descriptors such as (Xbox 360) and (Xbox One / Xbox 360).

Thanks for the help! Entry created.

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I hate to necro such an old topic, but don't see any other way to ask this:

Today I bought a new copy of https://vgcollect.com/item/67217, with the same UPC, but it comes in the XB1 style box (Front, back, disc). Based on the rules, it goes on the 360 (NA) category, but don't know what to add to make it distinct from the original entry.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: November 26, 2024, 02:29:51 pm »
Whereas using ISO 639 would be easy (easier?), straightforward, explicit as using only intrisic information (available on the item itself), and reduce significantly the length of such entries, simplifying [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][EC][SV][GT][HN][MX][NI][PA][PE][VE][…] with [ES], while actually making this sole information both correct and complete in what distinguish such items from the “default” ones (generally US for NA, UK for Europe, etc.) of the same region.

Coming from a Spanish speaking country, it can't be realistically applied. [ES] refers specifically to Spain (es-ES), and even thought they're mostly interchangeable, games that come in Castilian Spanish (es-ES) tend not to do well in Latin America (es-419), and vice-versa. Metal Gear Solid was never oficially released in Spanish for Latin America, because the only dub was made for Spain, with a very thick Castilian accent, while the Spanish release of Halo 2, with a very Mexican dub, turned into a laughing stock in Spain.

There's also the big line of code of countries in ISO 639, but that can't be realistically replaced for the UN M49 codes, because Mexico and Brazil use different rating standards.

Spanish-speaking region releases are a big pain to adapt to the way the website works now.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: November 24, 2024, 09:09:18 am »
(may also apply to [DE] for Germany, Austria, Luxembourg and Switzerland, possibly Belgium and Italy too, to [NL] for Netherlands and Belgium, etc.)

Could be worse. Could be Latin American games. I just end up marking anything ESRB, in Spanish and pre-(27 May 2021) as [MX], cause the long list would be [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][EC][SV][GT][HN][MX][NI][PA][PE][VE]… cause those are all the countries listed in the game box (https://vgcollect.com/item/165230). And after that date, it would be [AR][BO][CL][CO][CR][DO][EC][SV][GT][HN][NI][PA][PY][PE][UY] (https://vgcollect.com/item/275327). There's a reason why the distributor listings are marked as [LATAM] in their own files.

I gave up on that fight years ago. Everything's Mexican unless it's obviously not (Spanish, ESRB after 27 May 2021).

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: November 23, 2024, 06:23:35 pm »
Here is a conversation from last year about the topic that you may find worth reading. Note that the final post of mine which posed a question was never addressed.
So, "Stick to third party website, even when proven wrong by actual credits". Got it.

(I'm not trying to be dense, but you're the DB Mod. Whatever you say, it goes.)

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: November 23, 2024, 05:48:49 pm »
MobyGames is often our site's immediate source of reference when confirming developer and publisher information for most games.

But it's an imperfect system with plenty of discrepancies even from the immediate source (e.g. game data and game packaging.) Third-party source MobyGames credits Ubisoft Entertainment as the developer, as was mentioned in the Admin Comments upon the edit rejection. Meanwhile, the back cover credits Ubisoft as the developer, whereas in-game credits list Ubisoft Montreal.


So, we stick to MobyGames (third party website), corporate entity (back of box) or credit roll (in-game credits)?

EDIT: Decided to re-check all my Ubi games, and they all have the same text, even in cases where it's widely known they were developed by other studios, like Obsidian in https://vgcollect.com/item/163264 (Fresh scan of the back cover)

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As for the Item Number field, the spine number is prioritized. However, item number locations are not uniform, so there is an order of hierarchy that's outlined in the style guide. So, if neither a spine number nor back number is present but a front number is, then that front number information should be submitted to the dedicated field.

Oh, okay. In that case, I'll fix the entries for the other XB1 games I have around here.

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As mentioned in the rejection comments, your submission was rejected due to trying to remove valid Box Text field information and transferring it to the Description field where it's not needed. If you re-submit the information again while maintaining what's already present, it will be approved.

Done, including the all caps for the text already present.

Also, isn't the item number (78550206US in this case) supposed to only be filled in case that it's present on the spine? This game doesn't have that number on the spine, but on the top right of the barcode area.

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https://vgcollect.com/item/181595

Got two rejected edits related to text.

As mentioned, the text that's listed on the box_text value is on the front cover, not on the back.

Game bought today, brand-new.

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https://vgcollect.com/item/225045

Same reasoning as why USK-rated games must carry the DE mark or anything ClassInd must go to BR. SMECCV = MX (where SMECCV is enforced by law)

Here's a listing with Spanish + ESRB from MercadoLibre Chile: https://articulo.mercadolibre.cl/MLC-2493653946-ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5-_JM), one from WePlay Chile (the only big box retailer left in the country) (https://www.weplay.cl/preventa-ratchet-clank-rift-apart-ps5.html), and one from Sony Chile (https://store.sony.cl/ps5-ratchet-clank-rift-apart/p)


Editing for other countries:

Argentina: https://store.sony.com.ar/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart/p
Peru: https://phantom.pe/ratchet-clank-una-dimension-aparte-ps5.html
Colombia: https://gamer4ever.com.co/products/ps5-ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart-fisico-nuevo
Uruguay: https://www.macrotec.com.uy/ratchet-clank-rift-apart-nuevo-ps5
Ecuador: https://store.sony.com.ec/ratchet-y-clank-ps5/p

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https://vgcollect.com/item/242405

This was suggested to be moved to the Apple Accessory category (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10192.msg206160.html#msg206160), since it's an iPhone accessory, not a PS5 one. Does the "Playstation" branding overrides it?

https://playbackbone.com/products/backbone-one-playstation/

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
« on: July 18, 2024, 03:03:53 pm »
Apple
- MFi Accessories
https://mfi.apple.com

This would be for game controllers designed for Apple devices, like the Lightning version of the Backbone One (https://vgcollect.com/item/242405), the Lightning version of the Razer Kishi (https://www.razer.com/mobile-controllers/razer-kishi), the GameVice for iPad (https://gamevice.com/products/gamevice-for-ipad) or the SteelSeries Nimbus+ (https://steelseries.com/gaming-controllers/nimbus-plus)

I'm wide-open to suggestions on how to categorize those, cause I can't really fit them into any category in the database.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Release Country TLD Master List
« on: April 23, 2024, 01:18:08 pm »
TLD is for the country the item is sold in, not what language is present. There is no default.

So, (Spanish cover), (Latin America), Back Code ID, anything? This needs a very specific rule, considering that the distribution chain in Latin America has always been scattered for this kind of products (My job is logistics related to the area).

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