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Modern Video Games / Re: Pokemon Presents 02/27/24
« on: February 21, 2024, 04:32:05 pm »
It's always puzzling to see discussions (always from adults) about how Pokémon has either noticeably dropped in quality or that the games aren't difficult anymore since it is, and always has been, a children's franchise. No one in these discussions is the target audience. While the franchise's young target audience doesn't excuse its quality, it does help explain it, as many children's games are low quality. As long as the franchise's popularity remains within that age bracket, the games won't improve, because kids often don't have standards needing to be met. Regarding the difficulty of the games, they've always been straightforward to understand, but I imagine a huge number of players being introduced to the series at a young age, whenever that may have been, faced challenges in understanding the mechanics and strategy required. Obviously, since the games have purposely stagnated to catch the attention of children every few years, veteran players won't find newer entries challenging.

The Let's Go entries are objectively remakes with new features to entice veteran players to play co-op with new, younger players as their introduction to the series. Any handicapped and removed features are intentional design choices for this audience.

It should go without saying, but anyone outside of Pokémon's target audience who's looking for a more fulfilling experience with this type of game should seek out other games with the same structure, or even Pokémon fan games.


I don't agree that because Pokémon is marketed as a "children's franchise" that it explains the poor quality.  Most, if not all, Nintendo franchises are made with the same broad design philosophy, so for many it doesn't check out that Pokémon gets the shaft in terms of quality with every iteration while games like Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, Animal Crossing, etc. have some of their best entries on the Switch. The games are rated E for everyone after all, and are enjoyed by both kids and adults. I, along with many fans, are frustrated that given how much damn money Pokémon makes for Nintendo, their games come out in such a state.







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Modern Video Games / Re: Pokemon Presents 02/27/24
« on: February 21, 2024, 10:59:33 am »
It's always puzzling to see discussions (always from adults) about how Pokémon has either noticeably dropped in quality or that the games aren't difficult anymore since it is, and

The Let's Go entries are objectively remakes with new features to entice veteran players to play co-op with new, younger players as their introduction to the series. Any handicapped and removed features are intentional design choices for this audience.

It should go without saying, but anyone outside of Pokémon's target audience who's looking for a more fulfilling experience with this type of game should seek out other games with the same structure, or even Pokémon fan games.


Many folks including myself have already done so. It's just that it's a shame that the actual IP is pretty shit today. cause if we had those kinda games with the actual creatures and characters from the series it be amazing. Also fangames for me do not hit the same so in terms of that I personally just play other genre's or games instead and usually just ditch this genre altogether.

It's more the discussion if only the series kept up. Nobody is expecting anything, it's moreso just the current state of the series.

Stuff like zelda and Mario is still fun for alle ages for example and they still are some the best in their respective subgenre's Heck in mario's case it's pretty much uncontested since the start, it is a shame that pokemon is the only ip that is kinda left out. provided pokemon is only 33% Nintendo. can't expect the same quality I guess.



pokemon fans dont require an lot to be happy but at the least some basic things and even thats too much now eaperently


TBF allot of the adult fans are already happy

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Modern Video Games / Re: Pokemon Presents 02/27/24
« on: February 21, 2024, 05:23:23 am »
If where talking Let's go For a switch pokemon game in terms of creatures and world it looks decent enough I guess. The unique riding animations are nice. and let's be fair for a modern pokemon game on a technical lvl and in terms of bugs, it surpasses any other switch pokemon game by a landslide. It looked like a complete game I'll give it that.

For character looks however I've had my beef with the let's go art style , they remind me to much of funko's. it previously had the worst art style in the series imo it looks like a game for 5 year olds it feels so kiddy. That being said they look godly compared to the abomination that is gen 4 remakes never imaged it could have been so much worse  :P

But that's just visuals Overall let's go is a slap in the face, instead of nostalgia it just makes me hate it. The music is also not great imo, it's gen 1 ost poorly done gives it a totally different vibe to disney esk/happy. it just ain't hitting for me. Meanwhile ye got heartgold soulsilver with a proper remade soundtrack that surpasses the og withouth altering the vibe. They do it decently in the past. Now with that game I get nostalgia for gen 2. With let's go I feel embarrassed playing it. Even at 10 years old this would have felt lame nobody would be playing this back than on the school grounds. I highly doubt the series would have stuck so long if it started out as kiddy as let's go. Pokemon used to be cool it didn't feel like it was for just little kids that is why it became popular.

If where talking best pokemon switch that comes close to a main game It's PLA. it's not great still but I like the concept it feels less kiddy aswell. Feels more like a gen 4 remake compared to the actual remake  ::)

A new spin on the series. and visuals aside it looked pretty interesting at least. For modern pokemon anyway

modern pokemon is kinda dissapointing. I don't think I'll ever get any of the modern pokemon game aside from PLA and some spinoffs to stick in the collection. Just like the Mario & sonic olympic games I will ensure that these games will stay on the ban list :o





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Modern Video Games / Re: Pokemon Presents 02/27/24
« on: February 20, 2024, 06:19:03 am »
If these rumours are true





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Modern Video Games / Re: What are your thoughts on Simulator Games?
« on: February 19, 2024, 04:04:31 pm »
It's boring af I'd rather watch paint dry

Ask, and you shall receive. Here is a thrilling let's play video completing it.



You are a different kind of evil

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Modern Video Games / Re: What are your thoughts on Simulator Games?
« on: February 19, 2024, 03:26:08 pm »
Unless ages of empires II counts as some form a simulator It just ain't the genre for me.

It's boring af I'd rather watch paint dry

Most simulator games tend to be super realistic with regular themings such as flight, driving trains or worse mundane tasks  ::)

Never been that into games like the sims either that have more stuff happening to make it less realistic but even there  :P

In terms of simulation in racing or sports



If it's arcade esk instead


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: February 17, 2024, 09:09:41 pm »
If where going by your method. snes would have a canadian section. there are differences between carts.

Not to mention I'm fairly sure a ton of snes games never had a unique canadian release and are the regular usa release and thus you'd need to add canadian sales region to 30 - 50% prob more of the USA database for older consoles? cause of those games being sold in canada back in the day anyway it's the only version.

if your going to add sales region to pal games, why not add them to usa games aswell for canadian tag if no canadian versions exists which I can almost guarantee you is a hell lot of said library ::)

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The database has two dedicated yet small CA sections. All other CA items are placed in NA categories. Stating the obvious is adding tags for every language present on an item's packaging, but I digress.

stating the obvious is just adding nothing to it. If said games are in aus or Canadian category already nothing else needs to be said. it's obvious.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: February 17, 2024, 06:20:21 pm »
Adding sales region in the european section a can of worms you do not want to enter.

Let's just keep it at either languages or the OG codes that are listed on said games UKV FAH, HOL, NOE, SCN etc like what it used to be before Presumably Dhaabi altered it

+1 to the chuckle or two you got out of me.

This isn't the place to engage in this sort of conversation (make a separate topic for it) nor do I feel like responding in-depth since you ignored everything I mentioned above. But, I will say this: these rules were set long before I ever started contributing to the site, let alone became a staff member. Like other rules you have taken issue with, I am merely enforcing them. In that regard, this "can of worms" has been opened for years, although you seem to have only just noticed it. Again, if you have an issue with certain rules or have ideas as to provide better alternatives, I would suggest creating a topic in the Site Feedback section where a more engaging and on-topic discussion can be made.


BE code was not a thing 1 or max 2 months ago. I've checked since people tend to add different countries to already existing listings.

if it did exist earlier it wasn't as wide spread, BE code in even the snes catalogue is just outrageous. defo not more than 1 month ago I'd say

My feedback is to just use the codes. UKV, FAH, HOL etc

that's the best way, no need for language tags on games either than. Stuff like canadian releases with french shouldn't be an issue, they are already in a seperate region anyway. people know what to expect let's not state the obvious. no need for any tags if said games are in the canadian section anyway. Same stuff for Australian versions etc

I'll say this though,

Listings such as these are just filler. it's just wrong. I would suggest removing at the very least the BE tag. and this was previously just a generic english version of it considering the amount of people that have it in the collection. It's a vgcollect classic, altering previously english releases to versions 90+% of the people don't have.

https://vgcollect.com/item/33616

this is your version with the matching barcode ending with an 8 your looking at.

How is this just BE region?

Just saying, this european version is pretty much a thing in most of europe I'd say, are we really going to tag 5+ countries here


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: February 17, 2024, 05:18:31 pm »
I heavily second this. A clear majority of (but not all!) [FR][NL] games in the database should be [BE][FR][LU][NL] to truly represent their original market. And that only covers the market for french+dutch games… IMHO striving for country completion in the title for the european market is a wild goose chase, and doomed to be misleading *at best*. In this case most if not all european games with french & dutch on the box were released in Belgium, in addition of France, Netherlands, or both.

Listing languages on the box when a game has several language variations in a given region would be much less disputable.

Attaching TLD information to entry names based on language text leads to more problems than based on country of origin.

- Consider items without any packaging text.
- Consider items with only one regional release, regardless of the amount of languages present.
- Consider the English language. What sort of tag are you implying be given to it? Be aware that [EN] is not a TLD.
- Consider items which a language is present that doesn't directly relate to its country of origin. For instance, are you suggesting Canadian entries be tagged as [FR]? Brazilian items be tagged as [PT]? There are plenty of items originating from Asia with only English as the language text, even.
- Consider items which are regional variants only based on a label, or the few which are unique based on an included component like a different instruction booklet. Hundreds of these sorts of items already exist within the database, and their packaging languages are the exact same as others.
- Consider regional variant items which rely on descriptors solely instead of TLDs, such as 245945. TLDs should only be attached when multiple entries within the same exact name in the same category exist, so a TLD isn't used in this situation. With your proposal, there would be.

We won't be making an exception rule or altering the rules altogether due to one specific region of categories. You suggest how some entry name TLDs may be "misleading," but I don't see how that can be if sufficient information is supplied. Numerous other form fields coincide with the Name field which can mitigate this issue. If there is confusion relating to what an entry is intended to represent based on an entry's name alone, then that almost certainly means other fields were either filled out incorrectly or omitted altogether. In no ideal situation should the Name field be the only explanation as to what an item is, with image, Barcode, and Item Number fields being most helpful. At the same time, if there is incorrect data, it is usually straightforward to correct. Likewise, if existing information is correct but incomplete, that is simple to amend.

Also recognize that every item is released differently, meaning every single item in the database should be analyzed individually. So, for example, if there are some Dutch items where it can be confirmed that they were also released in France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, or wherever, then submit that information. Some information is difficult for staff to confirm on our own, so it's never wrong to post to the forums in this very topic to preemptively explain certain edits with verifying links, as the topic post outlines, before the submission is responded to by staff.

While the current TLD and descriptor systems aren't perfect, they're the best we're to work with given the site's current development and limitations. Ideally, there would be one master entry for each game, so to speak, with all variants including regional ones accessible from the same page. However, that isn't how the site is currently built. So, we compromise until something better is made.


Adding sales region in the european section a can of worms you do not want to enter.

your just making up ridiculous rules that hardly matter to most collectors and make stuff super complicated withouth actually providing details that matter. Where is the actual benefit of this system? it is imo non existent. Sometimes I really think your the only 1 that likes these changes. Could be wrong on that but it feels like it at times.

Let's just keep it clean and simple.

There are not many problems if where sticking to languages for europe. if you really have a specific item you can make exceptions, but this should not be an issue for 99% of games.

say you got a sports game that was just specificly for said country with exclusive clubs. you can go ahead and go crazy with your over the top rules and say it's a BE or whatever game, It should only matter for mostly some sports of singstar games.


Besides collectors for games are not looking for a regional version, they are just looking for a copy in their language. Nobody is saying that they are looking for a Belgium game  ::)


Why should we complicate the ez codes that are already given to use.
Such as UKV FAH, NOE, SCN HOL. we used to just list these codes behind said games and that was literally perfect since collectors used those codes all the time. Languages are fine enough aswell but I never got why that was altered. Sales region is just not the way to go.

I've already seen the BE code spread throughout many items in the database which just doesn't make any sense. Like a BE coded shadow of the collosus ps2, like wtf is that  https://vgcollect.com/item/33616

It doesn't even exist. game that was released in belgium had 4 languages, and how is that BE exclusive? Not to mention french and english only copies where in that same region aswell


I hope some folks can get Dhaabi back to the land of the living cause his idea's are getting out of hand :o

If Dhaabi does succeed with this horrible idea, I'm not going to help him with this wild goose chase that will just dilute the site with useless information. cause it's just another downgrade to this otherwise cool site.


Let's just keep it at either languages or the OG codes that are listed on said games UKV FAH, HOL, NOE, SCN etc like what it used to be before Presumably Dhaabi altered it


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GBA
My Local used game store had this game for $80, saw it was going online at over $100 and had to grab it.
- Dragon Ball: Advanced Adventure


You can never go wrong with this game. it's one of the best games on the system. also that multiplayer is killer  ;D

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: February 16, 2024, 10:33:37 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/89726

There is no such thing as BE tag with pal snes

for this example it should be

[FR][NL] as usual



Posting this private response (despite my repeated requests for a public discussion) here since sworddude now believes the item was also sold in Belgium.

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If where talking sales, it's definitely sold in belgium aswell. but it for sure was the case in the netherlands aswell. it's pretty much the main version. I don't see how it's even a question that the NL tag should be included with a FAH release game. I'm literally from said region.

It is yes, but I don't think sales region is a great method

Cause that would mean we'd need most european country tags on oldschool snes/ gameboy releases for UKV and NOE, cause those where sold brand new in a majority of europe aswell. Even FAH for many games was sold in quite some other countries of europe including the UK.

I do not believe this is the way to go. BE is not a good tag to use for this

Besides if BE is allowed, are we going to open the can of worms that is swiss tag. which is swiss german, italian and french.

sales region is a flawed system.

BE tag is basicly just NL/FR. it shouldn't deserve a seperate spot. it's just a region not a language. besides again FAH version is even sold in the UK back in the day for quite some games like R-type III

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: February 16, 2024, 10:01:10 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/89726

There is no such thing as BE tag with pal snes

for this example it should be

[FR][NL] as usual


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Modern Video Games / Re: Xbox going third party
« on: February 08, 2024, 03:59:36 pm »



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Classic Video Games / Re: Old video game ads.
« on: February 06, 2024, 10:53:26 am »


I always assumed western companies just didn't know what the audience for said games where and just did something random.

Guess I was wrong I'll eat my words, they took homage to them og japanese commercials for the goemon series  ::)
They did their homework I did not expect that, they did what they could in that case :o

Goemon N64 commercial 1

Goemon N64 commercial 2




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Modern Video Games / Re: Palworld.
« on: January 31, 2024, 06:13:53 am »
The survival aspect is toned down by allot though, it's pretty casual in that department.

And it's mostly the start aswell, you could just focus on catching new creatures, breeding them going into battles with multiples at once.

also those mundane tasks get automated, you can get your creatures to do the dirty work while you do something else so you don't really have to that stuff later on and focus on exploration.

Only thing I'll say is this, it's not turnbased like pokemon so gameplay wise it is different, but if you want to make the world more comparable to the anime/ manga, gotto ditch the turn based system at some point. gotto go the monster hunter esk or survival route I'd say.

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