Author Topic: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023  (Read 29725 times)

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #210 on: August 13, 2023, 01:50:42 pm »
Not sure if the right topic for that but I’m pretty sure this game was never released on GameCube in Europe:
https://vgcollect.com/item/59358

The use of NA pictures might tend to confirm it.

« Last Edit: August 14, 2023, 11:06:24 am by tripredacus »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #211 on: August 13, 2023, 05:34:41 pm »
Getting a lot of edits rejected for PAL GameCube games that were rated with the 2003-2009 version of the USK 0 logo, as described here.

e.g. this game:
https://vgcollect.com/item/24635

eBay listings display the same rating (https://www.ebay.de/itm/183961240784 for instance), so I’m not sure what’s wrong?

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #212 on: August 13, 2023, 06:16:45 pm »
Getting a lot of edits rejected for PAL GameCube games that were rated with the 2003-2009 version of the USK 0 logo, as described here.

e.g. this game:
https://vgcollect.com/item/24635

eBay listings display the same rating (https://www.ebay.de/itm/183961240784 for instance), so I’m not sure what’s wrong?

The reason why these USK 0 rating submissions are being rejected is because the items' rating is something different. Rating field information should be for the exact rating, not an equivalent. This is also why your submissions for USK 18 were also rejected. Since there is no selectable option for the true rating, the Rating field should be left blank.

See these posts:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg201734.html#msg201734
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg201322.html#msg201322
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8623.msg145223.html#msg145223
« Last Edit: August 13, 2023, 06:20:12 pm by dhaabi »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #213 on: August 13, 2023, 09:42:08 pm »
The Dragon Ball Z Ps2 area seems to need a lot of edits. I'm going to log them before submitting edits as a lot of these would involve changes to barcodes/tlds. Sorry for the long ass post in advance lol

I believe this barcode is incorrect, https://vgcollect.com/item/66653 3296580802699 - Been searching for a while and cannot seem to locate any item with the barcode. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126050348612 (3296580802708) seems to be default

https://vgcollect.com/item/154467 - Removing IT as no SIAE label

https://vgcollect.com/item/126480 - Removing FI SE as those are just quickstart languages.

https://vgcollect.com/item/19609 - Wrong back art - edited ntsc? (will change when adding other USK version)

https://vgcollect.com/item/39259 - Removing FI SE PT as those are just quickstart languages.

https://vgcollect.com/item/147587 -  Removing FI SE PT as those are just quickstart languages. Will need Merge with https://vgcollect.com/item/51888

https://vgcollect.com/item/161325 - Would be the English EU release (Doesn't appear to of actually released in the UK)

https://vgcollect.com/item/43526 - Barcode slightly wrong should be 3296580804924 not 3296580904924. Needs NL descriptor

https://vgcollect.com/item/66457 - Removing FI SE PT as those are just quickstart languages.

https://vgcollect.com/item/51889 - Removing FI SE PT as those are just quickstart languages. Need Merge with https://vgcollect.com/item/170494


Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #214 on: August 14, 2023, 03:45:01 am »
The reason why these USK 0 rating submissions are being rejected is because the items' rating is something different. Rating field information should be for the exact rating, not an equivalent. This is also why your submissions for USK 18 were also rejected. Since there is no selectable option for the true rating, the Rating field should be left blank.

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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8623.msg145223.html#msg145223

Ok, would be helpful not having these listed as USK 0 & USK 18 respectively in the rating list topic then.

I understand there’s an exception for 2003 versions of USK 6 to 16; what about 1994 versions?
« Last Edit: August 14, 2023, 09:18:08 am by bobi »

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #215 on: August 14, 2023, 10:09:04 am »
The Dragon Ball Z Ps2 area seems to need a lot of edits. I'm going to log them before submitting edits as a lot of these would involve changes to barcodes/tlds.

Edits approved. I also went ahead and merged 51888 into 147587.

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #216 on: August 14, 2023, 11:05:20 am »
re Budokai Tenkaichi 3, adding the colon is fine.
I changed the barcode to UK version, matching https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195933444510

jjfly lives somewhere in Scandinavia, so a lot of his entries are most often likely releases from [DK][FI][NO][SE]

Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3
https://vgcollect.com/item/194016

Was going to change name to "Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3"
Barcode is NL but is a later edit. Dont want to appear to convert

NL - https://www.ebay.nl/itm/304761874287

https://vgcollect.com/item/46565
https://vgcollect.com/item/142416

Appears to be a variant rather then a regional release as both seen prevalent in the UK. Submitting a (Quickstart) descriptor

ebay.co.uk/itm/404435045701
ebay.co.uk/itm/115861814035

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #217 on: August 14, 2023, 11:08:33 am »
The rating topic is just a guide, it doesn't tie directly into the site. It was created for informational purposes only.

Ok, would be helpful not having these listed as USK 0 & USK 18 respectively in the rating list topic then.

I understand there’s an exception for 2003 versions of USK 6 to 16; what about 1994 versions?

We had to start enforcing the equivalent ratings on entries once we implented the rating image to appear on entries. We haven't solved transitory images (like white vs black ESRB) but this exactness requirement also technically applies to ELSPA.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2023, 11:10:32 am by tripredacus »

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #218 on: August 14, 2023, 11:48:52 am »
this exactness requirement also technically applies to ELSPA.

To clarify, here is an example.

ELSPA 3+



ELSPA 3-10


Rating differences outlined in this post.

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #219 on: August 14, 2023, 12:16:09 pm »
For both ELSPA and USK they changed (respectively once and twice) the “stamp” (for lack of a better word?), not the meaning of it, as far as I know.

First I thought the rule of thumb was if the meaning remains unchanged, items must use the newer version, since, say, a „USK ab 18” from 2023 expectedly conveys the exact same meaning as a „USK Nicht geeignet unter 18 Jahren” from 1994, therefore a 1994 game with the latter USK rating should get a “USK - 18” rating as available in the DB.

For what I understand now, this is not the case and theoretically only games displaying the same stamp as the one that is in the DB for the rating entry should receive the according rating (presumably only german games from 2009 for USK).

Yet, there is still the exception kept for USK 6, 12, 16 from 2003 to 2009, which imho seems kinda half-baked between the two choices and is doomed to confuse any editor (honestly it got me quite confused why I got some changes of USK ratings from this period accepted for some entries and rejected for others).

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #220 on: August 14, 2023, 04:53:47 pm »
Didnt notice this image is of FR version - changing barcode to correct tld version https://vgcollect.com/item/89756
« Last Edit: August 14, 2023, 05:15:10 pm by nathan776 »

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #221 on: August 16, 2023, 10:21:48 am »
I'm not too familiar with accessories/systems so I may be incorrect so submitting a request instead.

https://vgcollect.com/item/101078
Appears to be https://www.ebay.it/itm/334660650924 . Would this be for Snes instead?

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #222 on: August 16, 2023, 10:34:09 am »
I'm not too familiar with accessories/systems so I may be incorrect so submitting a request instead.

https://vgcollect.com/item/101078
Appears to be https://www.ebay.it/itm/334660650924 . Would this be for Snes instead?

No. They made controllers for multiple consoles and they all have the same box except that the console name on the front is different. I can readily find pictures for SNES, Genesis and Mega Drive. The unfortunate part is that this name appears on the box under where the price tag is on the 3DO entry, so you just can't see it. I don't find any pictures of the sides of the box, so it may say it there also, or have a different PN for the different consoles.

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« Reply #223 on: August 16, 2023, 05:16:45 pm »
Saw this just listed - https://vgcollect.com/item/241954
I know we list Press Kits but is this really an authentic item?

Yes. Resident Evil Code: Veronica X was published in Australia by THQ which explains the disc design. The item is a collection of marketing materials presumably for a magazine publication.

As a follow-up to this inquiry, the entry has been removed. The item in question was an official THQ PC disc labeled "Code Veronica X Art Work" as handwritten text on it which defined what the item's digital contents are. Items like these without any sort of official label or design aren't permitted. I submitted 241954 alongside eight others like it when submitting entries for Resident Evil items, and they've all been removed.

« Last Edit: August 18, 2023, 09:39:02 am by tripredacus »