Author Topic: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025  (Read 5928 times)

tripredacus

Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« on: January 31, 2025, 12:00:46 pm »
Use this topic to report issues with Items. Examples include:
- Items with mismatching pictures/information
- Physical item cancelled and not released
- Item has watermarked or photoshopped images
- Invalid items in the database such as non-video game related items
- Any concerns about rejected edits
- Any explanations about an edit you want to do so that it won't be rejected

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Link to Listing Errors 2018 Thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8857.0.html
Link to Listing Errors 2019 Thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9928.0.html
Link to 2020-21 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10555.0.html
Link to 2022 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11723.0.html
Link to 2023 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.0.html
Link to 2024 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12668.0.html

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2025, 10:14:39 pm »
« Last Edit: February 08, 2025, 04:02:51 pm by nathan776 »

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2025, 01:02:02 pm »
The two following entries are a bit mixed up:
https://vgcollect.com/item/52878
https://vgcollect.com/item/53827

The first wrongfully gets the same barcode as the second, with the wrong background image also. I edited the second with the same back box art, and I’ll fix the first barcode + back box art (sporting French, Italian, German and Spanish) right after posting this.

« Last Edit: February 14, 2025, 09:16:05 am by dhaabi »

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2025, 01:18:41 pm »
Sorry my crappy internet connection made a blank one.

https://vgcollect.com/item/280191

« Last Edit: February 28, 2025, 05:25:47 am by nathan776 »

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2025, 09:47:53 pm »
the site reloaded 3 times for me and then it created 3 copies of the same title.


https://vgcollect.com/item/280549
https://vgcollect.com/item/280550
https://vgcollect.com/item/280551


Could anyone help erase 2 of the links:?

thank you

« Last Edit: February 28, 2025, 05:25:30 am by nathan776 »
Japanese Games collector!



Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2025, 10:16:33 am »
Hi,

Its confusing that these 3 titles below the English names are in the japanese releases romanji as the main title
I took what was already on file and interchange them to match the other 5 that was created back in 2020 with the English release as its main title.

https://vgcollect.com/item/184787
https://vgcollect.com/item/154951
https://vgcollect.com/item/154950

while these below are in the english releases as main title.

https://vgcollect.com/item/184783
https://vgcollect.com/item/184785
https://vgcollect.com/item/184786
https://vgcollect.com/item/184788
https://vgcollect.com/item/184784

all are Japanese R2 cero releases but which should be the correct format in this case?

JP releases in romanji format or English release format in the main english title box.

Thank you to the mods/admins who have give share some light on this series.

very much appreicated.

Japanese Games collector!



dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2025, 10:38:46 am »
Its confusing that these 3 titles below the English names are in the japanese releases romanji as the main title
I took what was already on file and interchange them to match the other 5 that was created back in 2020 with the English release as its main title.

all are Japanese R2 cero releases but which should be the correct format in this case?

JP releases in romanji format or English release format in the main english title box.

Generally, our database refers to GameFAQs data to determine how our entries are named and formatted. However, we do recognize that their site will (and often does) have errors. This brief overview can be found in the Item Name section of the Advanced Style Guide:

GameTitle is the commonly accepted game name. Our primary source for common titles is GameFAQs. They can be found in the Releases section, or on pages for a specific release's box art.
A name source may have errors in their title that need to be corrected before used here. These may include using numeric vs roman numeral, title for a localised version that doesn't match the art, or a translation/romanization error.

And even when an item isn't listed on GameFAQs, we should prioritize the localized name if possible. So, for 184783, 184784, 184785, 184786, and 184788, the names which instead be used in the Name field is the localized Japanese name. For instance, 184783 should have the following information:
Name: Shallie no Atelier: Tasogare no Umi no Renkinjutsushi DX
Alt-Name: シャリーのアトリエ: 黄昏の海の錬金術士~ DX, Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea DX
« Last Edit: March 03, 2025, 10:41:53 am by dhaabi »

bizzgeburt

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2025, 07:09:49 pm »
Holla!

I've a question that advanced styleguide didn't answer me:

I sometimes stumbled upon entries with items like plastic cartridge cases (e.g. Game Boy) and cartridges/instruction booklets without item numbers listed under "includes".
How's VGC's policy on that?
Are these entries legit/needed? In case of cartridge cases, it only seems useful to me to add those on systems where some games were released without those cases, like Sega Game Gear (Codemaster cartridges in particular never had cases unlike all other releases on the system)...


I dislike seing red boxes in my notifications list so I thought I ask in advance  8)

Thx, Bizz
« Last Edit: March 15, 2025, 07:11:33 pm by bizzgeburt »
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US !!
WELCOME TO YOUR DOOM !!

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2025, 07:36:14 pm »
I've a question that advanced styleguide didn't answer me:

I sometimes stumbled upon entries with items like plastic cartridge cases (e.g. Game Boy) and cartridges/instruction booklets without item numbers listed under "includes".
How's VGC's policy on that?
Are these entries legit/needed? In case of cartridge cases, it only seems useful to me to add those on systems where some games were released without those cases, like Sega Game Gear (Codemaster cartridges in particular never had cases unlike all other releases on the system)...

The purpose of the [contents] section is to list anything that's included as part of that item's release. It doesn't matter if the item number is unknown or if there's an item number at all—the included item can still be detailed. At the same time, it's still valuable information to know each individual components despite certain one being standard for that specific library. For instance, I'm often adding instruction booklet to many entries when it's appropriate even when every item in the category includes one.

The same can be said [physical descriptions] section too, which I'm pointing out since it's beneficial to know when outer labels are present, yet many do not have item numbers.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2025, 07:44:46 pm by dhaabi »

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2025, 05:32:44 am »
These two recent entries from me got their developper wrongfully replaced with their publisher:
https://vgcollect.com/item/280918
https://vgcollect.com/item/280919

Sources:
https://www.mobygames.com/game/27017/god-hand/releases/
https://www.mobygames.com/game/13501/gregory-horror-show/releases/

I fixed that in a pending change, but I wonder about the publisher replaced with the distributor. Is that what’s expected? If so, why not replace the field’s label with either “distributor” or “publisher/distributor?”

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2025, 06:30:22 am »
These two recent entries from me got their developper wrongfully replaced with their publisher:
https://vgcollect.com/item/280918
https://vgcollect.com/item/280919

I fixed that in a pending change, but I wonder about the publisher replaced with the distributor. Is that what’s expected? If so, why not replace the field’s label with either “distributor” or “publisher/distributor?”

How Developer and Publisher field details should be submitted was recently updated so that we all can provide more accurate information. From the Advanced Style Guide:

Developer and Publisher
Developer and Publisher fields are created for game releases. The content that goes into these fields can be found on other websites, such as those listed above for "using images from other sources."

For physical games, the publisher or developer can be found on the packaging or in the manual.

If you cannot determine the correct info by looking at the item, you may be able to find the information on other websites.

For a digital game, the publisher and developer should be listed on the game's digital store page.

The image below is of physical item from one of the two reported entries, God Hand [FR][NL], though the same can be said of Gregory Horror Show [FR][NL] when checked. Because of this, the original submitted information was corrected and edit submissions have been rejected.


Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2025, 07:01:52 am »
I could not disagree more with a rule, at least applied so blindly in this instance.

I don’t know anyone who, knowing the game God Hand, would argue that it was not developped by Clover.

The fact that Capcom Europe hid that has nothing to do with who actually developped it. Unless we nourish the delusion that Capcom redevelopped the game entirely (still wiping themselves with Clover’s authorship, in terms of ideas) just for the european market.

Edit: these last few seconds of the outro show also in the french+dutch version of the game, should this be disputed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2FDEPbDK0U&t=169s
« Last Edit: March 16, 2025, 07:04:59 am by bobi »

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2025, 08:44:38 am »
I could not disagree more with a rule, at least applied so blindly in this instance.

I don’t know anyone who, knowing the game God Hand, would argue that it was not developped by Clover.

The fact that Capcom Europe hid that has nothing to do with who actually developped it. Unless we nourish the delusion that Capcom redevelopped the game entirely (still wiping themselves with Clover’s authorship, in terms of ideas) just for the european market.

First, let it be aware that this rule is for physical items in physical Games categories. For many entry fields, information should be transcribed as if taken directly from the item as it if were in-hand. This is now no different for the Developer and Publisher fields, though it's not always possible since that information is still sometimes unknown even when analyzing the physical item. However, in this instance, it is known. If there are digital entries for these games, then Developer information may very well vary depending on what is listed on digital storefront pages.

And for what little this detail is worth, Clover Studio seems to have been a subsidiary of Capcom. From Capcom's perspective then, it is no wonder that they consider that they themselves developed the games. This detail matters little, as we're not that concerned with digital game data, though—we are mostly concerned with the information that's available from the game's packaging. In this sort of scenario, it's no different than other objective information like a barcode.

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2025, 11:08:10 am »
None of this makes it less preposterous that God Hand was developped by Clover in Japan and NA, and by Capcom in Europe, according, as it stands, to vgcollect.

tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2025, 04:09:30 pm »
The entry linked is for a physical item, a plastic case with a disc in it.
You are talking about the game data which is contained on the disc, for which there is no entry.
There are many instances where the developer or publisher listed on a cover, in a manual or on a reference website does not match what is contained in the game data.

For an instance like this, you would put a line into description like this:
Game data developed by Clover

In the future we would want to be able to have a list of game data entries, assign developers to that and then assign those to physical items. Until then, we have to do it this way.