Author Topic: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025  (Read 6306 times)

BinaryMessiah

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2025, 04:07:46 pm »
https://vgcollect.com/item/22231


The item above never existed as a Steam entry. Not listed on SteamDB. Can we convert this to the Anniversary Edition? I believe this was a bundle you could buy on Steam as Gold Edition, but didn't have a SteamID attached to it.

[https://vgcollect.com/item/18102


This entry doesn't exist on SteamDB. It was converted to Anniversary Edition. I can't seem to find the original header image anywhere.
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tripredacus

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2025, 09:56:40 am »
https://vgcollect.com/item/22231


The item above never existed as a Steam entry. Not listed on SteamDB. Can we convert this to the Anniversary Edition? I believe this was a bundle you could buy on Steam as Gold Edition, but didn't have a SteamID attached to it.

[https://vgcollect.com/item/18102


This entry doesn't exist on SteamDB. It was converted to Anniversary Edition. I can't seem to find the original header image anywhere.

I have added the Steam IDs to item number field on both of those entries.
Steam, along with other digital platforms, rename game entries on their site often. Steamdb is helpful to find when this happened, but some past history needs and account to see it.

There are two ways you can update these entries. Using 22231 as example

1. Change item name to Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War: Anniversary Edition
2. put into alt-name field: Gold Edition
3. put into description: originally called Gold Edition

If you do have a steamdb account and can view the Update History to be able to see the old names, then description can be updated to include the dates the old names were used. If you can find this info, then you can replace 3 above with something like Originally called Gold Edition. Was renamed to Anniversary Edition on MM-DD-YYYY.

In summary, a straight-up rename on an entry is likely to be rejected unless you also update the alt-name and description.

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2025, 12:13:42 pm »
Gears of War 2 (Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA]) Cover Art Rejection

I have recently been fixing a lot of the Xbox 360 Game Store cover images that were lost in the recent database issue. And a few of them were rejected for being "Platinum Hits" versions of the cover art, stating that those covers were only ever used for physical releases, when that is not true.

The official Xbox 360 Game Store Cover Art can always be found on the marketplace.xbox.com product listings. These images (often with filenames like `boxartlg.jpg`) are the same ones that are used as cover art on the Xbox 360 console. Of course, since the closure of the Xbox 360 marketplace, I have to get these images from the archived versions of the product listings, using the Internet Archive (you can search for these listings by using this link: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/InsertBeginningOfGameTitleHERE*)

Gears of War 2 - Official Cover Art for the Xbox 360 digital version:

  • The official version of the Xbox 360 Digital Version's cover art has always been "Platinum Hits," as can be seen at the official Microsoft Xbox 360 Store product listing links. This is true going waaaay back to 2011 all the way to the most recent archived versions in 2024 (before the marketplace closure).
  • It even is Platinum Hits on my actual Xbox dashboard.

Is there a reason this official version is being rejected?

It looks like, since then someone has edited the listing to use the Xbox One/Xbox Series X/S version of the cover art found here: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/gears-of-war-2/C1SDBNRFXT1D/0001

That's all well and good if it were a listing for those consoles. But this is a listing for the Xbox 360 Digital version, and therefore I feel it should be accurate to how it has always looked (and still looks) on the Xbox 360 console, using official cover art from Microsoft itself.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2025, 12:45:00 pm by pajam »

dhaabi

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2025, 01:19:40 pm »
Gears of War 2 (Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA]) Cover Art Rejection

Is there a reason this official version is being rejected?

I may have been the one to reject your edit submission, though it was several days or even a week ago. So, I can't remember with certainty. Nevertheless, I think the most straightforward reason for why your submitted art was initially rejected (by whomever that may be) is due to the reason you yourself have presented—that the webpage for accessing such information is no longer live and not readily available for reference.

Ideally, all art for digital entries should reflect the art that's shown on native hardware like what you've presented with your attached photo, though that it an unrealistic hurdle for both members and staff to deal with us such hardware is not always available to use to confirm such information (for example, I do not own an Xbox 360.) So, instead, usually what's present on the online storefront is the next most correct information which, in this instance, appears to be the same.

I'm quite certain I wasn't the one to confirm 97551's current entry art, but I don't think it was approved for any specific reason instead of the one you've submitted except that it appears to reflect the item in question. Bear in mind that numerous staff respond to the edit queue. With that said, if you re-submit the Platinum Hits artwork, it will be approved. Still, your method of checking this data is not ideal. When browsing your link on the Wayback Machine, 965 unique results appear when searching for gears. 1,759 results appear when searching for halo when trying to easily validate information for a game within the Halo franchise, and similarly high results numbers appear for numerous other prolific franchises. These numbers can be reduced by refining the search to something like halo-3, but the results numbers are still in the hundreds. So, if the most correct image data is not approved or you envision it being approved before actually submitting it because it's only accessible through this method, then posting about it again in this topic will be the most optimal means of getting it approved. How do you easily determine which results link found on Wayback Machine actually represents the store page so that art can be confirmed?

Re: Error Listings and Rejected Edits 2025
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2025, 01:52:31 pm »
How do you easily determine which results link found on Wayback Machine actually represents the store page so that art can be confirmed?

This is indeed hard, now that the marketplace is closed. I used to be able to google something like: "[Game Title Here] site:https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product" which would lead to results like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=fatal+inertia+site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmarketplace.xbox.com%2Fen-US%2FProduct (if searching for the game "Fatal Inertia"). But now that the Marketplace is closed, you can't search against that "site" anymore for the official listings, as the site is no longer online, and there will be no results anymore (as can be seen if you click the above Google Results link).

I found on the Wayback Machine/Internet Archive, my link above works with "trailing" wildcards only according to Archive documentation/FAQ and their API documentation as well, hence having to put in the beginning of the title only and test to see if I can figure out the way Microsoft formatted the title in the URL. So I usually start more vague, and as I search and confirm, I get more specific (e.g. start with "gears*" then based on results, update to "gears-of-war*" or "gears-of-war-2*" etc. OR if no clear results try "GOW*" or "GOW2" etc.)  B/C it's not always certain how the URL was formatted by Microsoft back in the day (e.g. was it "Gears-of-War-2" or "Gears-of-W2" or "GoW2" etc.), especially b/c they often had no consistent way to handle it. A tricky example is Lego Batman 3... most of the Lego games start with "lego" at the beginning of the title (including Lego Batman and Lego Batman 2). But for Lego Batman 3, they only list it as the subtitle "Beyond Gotham" so searching "lego*" will not get you the right results.

However, a quick and dirty way to find the relevant game listing out of the 965 results for "http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/gears*" is to sort by "Captures." The ones with the most captures will appear at the top, and those are almost always the general Game listing, as opposed to smaller DLCs, themes/avatars/gamerpics, or archived affiliate links to the game listing, etc.



In the case of a "gears" search, the top ones should be the main Game Listing for Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Gears of War 3, etc.
Then you can see the "ID" for the game is consistent, despite the title formatting, or if they have multiple ways to format the title.

Example: Gears of War 2:
  • Gears-of-War-2 has the ID 66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8024d53082d
  • Gears-of-W2 has the same ID 66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8024d53082d

So if you can't find the main game listing via the above method, but you can find the "ID" from other URLs (like URLs to smaller DLC or Avatars/Gamerpics related to the game, etc.) you can use the search filter to narrow to just URLs for this specific game, and that narrows the search even more, to help find the main game listing.


This search narrows the 965 results to 214.

Granted these methods are really only needed for major games like Gears & Halo, etc. b/c they have soooo many add-ons, gamerpics, trailers, cosmetic items, sequels, etc. Most games only return a few URLs and it's easier to find what you're looking for right away.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2025, 04:46:05 pm by pajam »